England beat Bangladesh by 22 runs in the 1st Test

[Commander]

Bangladesh is not good enough to win Test matches against the top teams. They seem like they would always crumble under pressure even if they are playing at home

 

[Executioner]

Bangladesh is not good enough to win Test matches against the top teams. They seem like they would always crumble under pressure even if they are playing at home

Will say it had more to do with conditions than the situation.

It was remarkable effort to score more than 250 in the 4th innings on a minefield.

 

[JibranAnsari]

Well done england.

 

[The_Odd_One]

Bangladesh is not a minnow team anymore. With so much young talent available, they are going to be a top team in all formats.

 

[tonmoy]

Dont want to sound like a sore loser, so a disclaimer : England won as a better side.

However for the last wicket, I think the batsman was attempting to play that delivery. Since he is stuck way outside offstump so it should not have been LBW. Dharmasena is a really bad umpire.

 

[The Googly]

As soon as the 6th wicket fell with 50 odd needed, you felt it was beyond BD. But what a fight they put up. To score over 250 in the last innings is no mean feat.

 

[street cricketer]

Unlike fans, the actual test players from Bangladesh or even cricketers from other teams don't consider us as minnows, that is the difference. And we know whose opinion matters most.

A strong Bangladesh team is a big bonus for world cricket. Exactly for this reason ICC wanted to give us their full membership early. It's all because of the potential with our economy and budding cricketers.

Reality is, cricket needs us, and all other potential sides more than we think.

I am not going to talk about our cointry but for now let's just talk about Afghanistan. They add a different dimension to the game and a variation instead of playing same team over and over again. 3 of their players are in BPL and 2 of them in PSL. Also they add a variation in terms of geography itself. A team from middle East. Also, with Afghanistan cricket team their is also plenty of fans, which will attract sponsors and broadcasters. Just imagine, a series between Afg and Zim was held in UAE in front of crowds better than those you will see in any Pak game.

I don't have any particular affinity towards Afghanistan cricket. But I would love for them to be a good side. That would be great for the game which is losing its popularity

Agree largely but don't think Afghanistan belongs to the middle east.

 

[The Googly]

In test terms, BD are still a minnow I'm afraid. And a test nation has to be measured by their test records. BDs test record is diabolical. If BD played a test in England, a good county side would beat them easily. That is no exaggeration. Shakib is world class. Fizz has potential to be world class and the young spinner looks a top prospect. There are a handful of good players in addition (Tamim, Sarkar, Mahmadullah, Sabbir, the keeper). And that's it. BD will be a minnow until they can win a test abroad anywhere (even against the current Windies side).

 

[Executioner]

Agree largely but don't think Afghanistan belongs to the middle east.

And someone hear said they are not part of SC.

 

[street cricketer]

And someone hear said they are not part of SC.

They are not a part of subcontinent but a part of south asia.

 

[Energetic]

Bangladesh are not compatible for tests. Really, they should of started winning regularly at home since 11 at least against the Non-Asian sides. Test record is beyond a joke.

 

[j_kazmi]

Unlike fans, the actual test players from Bangladesh or even cricketers from other teams don't consider us as minnows, that is the difference. And we know whose opinion matters most.

A strong Bangladesh team is a big bonus for world cricket. Exactly for this reason ICC wanted to give us their full membership early. It's all because of the potential with our economy and budding cricketers.

Reality is, cricket needs us, and all other potential sides more than we think.

I am not going to talk about our cointry but for now let's just talk about Afghanistan. They add a different dimension to the game and a variation instead of playing same team over and over again. 3 of their players are in BPL and 2 of them in PSL. Also they add a variation in terms of geography itself. A team from middle East. Also, with Afghanistan cricket team their is also plenty of fans, which will attract sponsors and broadcasters. Just imagine, a series between Afg and Zim was held in UAE in front of crowds better than those you will see in any Pak game.

I don't have any particular affinity towards Afghanistan cricket. But I would love for them to be a good side. That would be great for the game which is losing its popularity

Yeah the fact that the players are starting to take Bangladesh seriously is the main thing. The opinions of some bitter fans doesn't matter. They're all just jealous that we lost 3-0 against Bangladesh last year. Even I wasn't happy that we lost 3-0 but I'm not going to wish for Bangladesh cricket to fail every time they play.

And you are right a strong Bangladesh team will only make world cricket better. In fact a strong afghansitan, Zimbabwe and Ireland team will be great for cricket as international cricket will obviously benefit from having 12-13 competive cricket teams then just 8.

 

[Executioner]

They are not a part of subcontinent but a part of south asia.

Now I am getting very confused. You have simply bowled the flipper at me.

Yeah the fact that the players are starting to take Bangladesh seriously is the main thing. The opinions of some bitter fans doesn't matter. They're all just jealous that we lost 3-0 against Bangladesh last year. Even I wasn't happy that we lost 3-0 but I'm not going to wish for Bangladesh cricket to fail every time they play.

And you are right a strong Bangladesh team will only make world cricket better. In fact a strong afghansitan, Zimbabwe and Ireland team will be great for cricket as international cricket will obviously benefit from having 12-13 competive cricket teams then just 8.

Unfortunately that is where the issue lies, we are not going to have 12-13 competitive teams anytime soon.

The reason why the sport is dull at times is because of the same teams playing over and over again. There will never be intensity if same teams play each other multiple times. Bangladesh for example have played Zimbabwe far too much and we certainly don't want to play them again. We would rather have a series with Nepal who are an inferior side but it brings a different dimension to the sport.

The reason why cricket is in a downward spiral is because the ICC is not focusing on spreading the game. The next world cup will only have 10 teams, which kicks out associates out of contention. ICC is not even providing proper funding to lesser teams.

Since 2007, ICC hasn't done anything to spread the game, well atleast nothing substantial. Ofcourse, i might not know much about the campaigns carried out by ICC's henchmen but I am not seeing the final results. I see a World Cup with fewer teams, I see teams like Kenya dissappearing. Zimbabwe are also in dire straits but that is not ICC's fault.

My Indian friend said he enjoyed the Bangladesh England series more than India-NZ series. Its not because of the closeness of the match but because BD vs Eng matches are a rarity for which there is always a spice to it. If BD-Eng played each other 2 times a year even I would lose interest. More teams are needed to garner interest among casual fans.

 

[Mr. Lion]

In test terms, BD are still a minnow I'm afraid. And a test nation has to be measured by their test records. BDs test record is diabolical. If BD played a test in England, a good county side would beat them easily. That is no exaggeration. Shakib is world class. Fizz has potential to be world class and the young spinner looks a top prospect. There are a handful of good players in addition (Tamim, Sarkar, Mahmadullah, Sabbir, the keeper). And that's it. BD will be a minnow until they can win a test abroad anywhere (even against the current Windies side).

Records aren't made on peppers, they r made on fields. I get ur frustration about BD's diabolical record in tests but u can't expect a team to do well in test out of nowhere.


England played more tests in last 2 years than BD played in last decade or so. Here lies the main problem, u can practice as much as u want but it won't teach u how to play the last half an hour before the end of a session.


These comes with experience. I can't believe that this was the first test Bangla played in last 15 months, I should say they have done extremely well considering how under prepared they were.

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

I don't know why Pakistanis want Bangladesh and India to fail, and they get happy at us losing.

We don't really become happy (except for Midget) at other team's failure. I guess we are more like Indian fans nowadays, now that our team has started performing, I don't watch matches of other teams and hardly know their players.

 

[street cricketer]

Now I am getting very confused. You have simply bowled the flipper at me.

Both terms are used mostly interchangeably. However subcontinent in general was a term used to refer to British India of the past which has carried on to this date. South Asia is a vague geographical term. Afghanistan lies between the middle east and the subcontinent, mostly it's grouped under south asia but sometimes as a part of central asia as well. But seeing that Afghanistan itself placed a request to join the SAARC, it is better grouped under south asia. In simpler words, south asia includes the Indian subcontinent plus Afghanistan (on the west) and Myanmar (on the east).

 

[Executioner]

Both terms are used mostly interchangeably. However subcontinent in general was a term used to refer to British India of the past which has carried on to this date. South Asia is a vague geographical term. Afghanistan lies between the middle east and the subcontinent, mostly it's grouped under south asia but sometimes as a part of central asia as well. But seeing that Afghanistan itself placed a request to join the SAARC, it is better grouped under south asia. In simpler words, south asia includes the Indian subcontinent plus Afghanistan (on the west) and Myanmar (on the east).

Thanks for the informative post.

So Afghans are our South Asian bhais it would seem

 

[aloo paratha]

DRS screwed Bangladesh, the 9th wicket wasn't going to hit the stumps like it was projected.

Was as plumb as it gets, I was surprised he didn't give it on field. The ball angled in and moved a tad bit away at the end. Stone dead.

 

[aloo paratha]

Low key mouthing him off

 

[Thivagar]

Was as plumb as it gets, I was surprised he didn't give it on field. The ball angled in and moved a tad bit away at the end. Stone dead.

Jesus, let the Bangladeshis feel at least good for once.

 

[Sadevdesai]

BD could have won the match easily. They had 90 overs to score 33 runs !!!! When will these high priced coaches will teach the tailendes how to simply Block !!!! They had entire night to pump some sense in the last two guys !!! Instead these guys were " sweeping " and " driving " and " hooking " the bAll and paid a huge price !!! They also had a guy who was batting with some 65 runs as a non striker ..... what a shame !!!!