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England beat Pakistan by 141 runs in the 3rd Test

Junaids said:
Wow! I have a horrible feeling that you might be right, which is incredibly depressing!

I have never seen a worse Test opener. And I've seen Shan Masood and Imran Farhat and Shadab Kabir!
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Trust me, if I had the power, first thing I would have done is dropping Azhar - he is one of the biggest crook in this whole mix. Do you know - he was a genuine leggi & can easily bowl 20 overs as 5th bowler - please mark this post, he 'll do that, once MoHa has cleared his test or by some divine blessings is dropped.
 
Romali_rotti said:
Solid Platform set by Azar and Aslam, really hope Pakistan can win this. They are capable of winning they just need to build partnerships like last innings and if Pak wins they are easily the best team from the subcontinent and probably the 2nd best test side currently after England......
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So you're saying that despite Pakistan winning this game and perhaps the series will lead them to still being below England?

They beat England at home too so I don't think England is the Superior team
 
What a wonderful fightback by Pakistan.

Respect.

Still I feel Pakistan shouldn't be too aggressive.

England can anytime go for negative lines and get a draw.

But a wicket here or there and England would tighten up the screws.

Great final day tbh.
 
Hope Azhar will not spoil Sami's achievement. You know what I mean. No Jinx
 
No guys don't get 2 excited. Run rate is up because England are trying to bowl more deliveries at the stumps them they otherwise would
 
MMHS said:
Trust me, if I had the power, first thing I would have done is dropping Azhar - he is one of the biggest crook in this whole mix. Do you know - he was a genuine leggi & can easily bowl 20 overs as 5th bowler - please mark this post, he 'll do that, once MoHa has cleared his test or by some divine blessings is dropped.
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I'm not sure what you're implying!

Are you arguing that corruption is keeping the anonymous man code name 20.09 in the team?
 
Azhar since he came in has totally changed the momentum. 25*(30). Practicing for ODIs?
 
MMHS said:
Trust me, if I had the power, first thing I would have done is dropping Azhar - he is one of the biggest crook in this whole mix. Do you know - he was a genuine leggi & can easily bowl 20 overs as 5th bowler - please mark this post, he 'll do that, once MoHa has cleared his test or by some divine blessings is dropped.
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Drop Azhar? I thought you was an intelligent poster. You are just coming to your own conclusions without any proof.
 
Pakistan has shown tremendous courage and fight so far. Awesome from Azhar and Sami, very poor as always from Hafeez. As long as the two are on the crease the hope of saving this test is alive.
 
Misbah's cunning strategy.

Appear helpless throughout last session yesterday. Then send Hafeez as opener for inevitable demise first up.

England think they have the game won.

Then boom! Unleash his 5 batters.

Game won.

#becauseMisbah
 
shaaik said:
Yeah I cdnt agree more with you on this. These were unarguably the best batting conditions hafeez would hv gotten outside Asia but still he has failed to make his mark. It's more of a mental issue with him than his technique which anyway isn't anything to write home about. The reason Why we still persist with him is coz we wanted to keep at least one opener who has been playing at the slot for some time and rotate the other. I think it was too much of a risk to drop hafeez at the same time when we sidelined shahzad from tests however having said that the time come and hafeez needs to go and we need to try Azhar as an opener and hv Babar Azam and Hari Sohail in the team and persist with Aslam till Australian tour.

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I would have Azhar open with Sami, seems like these have a good time with each other. Not to forget, Shehzad isn't coming back yet. Have Babar slot in at 3 and Shafiq at four against WI and see how it goes.
 
Can someone lul me now please - I am feeling so tense man !!!!


SOMEONE PLEASE LUL ME HERE !!!
 
Mahmood101 said:
Can't tell if Pakistan is going for it or not

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They are playing normally. They aren't going for it neither are they crawling in a cave. If they get to 170-200 by tea without losing more than 2-3 wickets, that's when they'll start pushing for the win.

If they lose a few wickets quickly then they'll battle it out for the draw (via Misbah, Shafiq and Younis).

So it all depends on how far these 2, Azhar and Sami, take us, really.

This is what I think. :)
 
world cup captain said:
I would have Azhar open with Sami, seems like these have a good time with each other. Not to forget, Shehzad isn't coming back yet. Have Babar slot in at 3 and Shafiq at four against WI and see how it goes.
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Wonderful, only that I wd not tinkle with shafique ' s slot and wd rather hv Babar Azam or Imam ul haq to bat one down..

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Moeen gonna turn into Muralitharan.

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Yaar, bewaqufi ki ek hadth hoti hai -

Every Pom, from Queen to the ball boy at my Anfield (ahh, that 4-0, ohh, I still can see the whole match whenever close the eye), boasted that 4-0 is there for the taking - only Mikayl Ah. (Muslims should know him) can save PAK. Now, they are going to their strongest fort anywhere in world at 1-1 & do people feel that PAK should oblige to chase a near impossible target, because Cook didn't have the balls to blast out for 450 in 120 overs & opened the match with a target of 348 in 100 overs?

It's easy to bash Misbah, but let me tell you 2 scenarios - PAK 35/3, & PAK going to tea 150/1.

Everyone probably know what Cook 'll do at 1st scenario. But, I tell you in case of 2nd one - he 'll put 6 men on line & his bowlers would start to measure run-ups, change shoes ....... so that, the law can be applied - 84 overs or 5:30PM, which ever is earlier.

PAK should bat for 83 overs at 1.7 rate & make sure that Poms are in the filed till last minute - back to back Test & Jimmi, Berbi are not spring chickens.
 
That's a better delivery from Moeen, flighting the ball more this time and getting a bit of turn.
 
MMHS said:
Yaar, bewaqufi ki ek hadth hoti hai -

Every Pom, from Queen to the ball boy at my Anfield (ahh, that 4-0, ohh, I still can see the whole match whenever close the eye), boasted that 4-0 is there for the taking - only Mikayl Ah. (Muslims should know him) can save PAK. Now, they are going to their strongest fort anywhere in world at 1-1 & do people feel that PAK should oblige to chase a near impossible target, because Cook didn't have the balls to blast out for 450 in 120 overs & opened the match with a target of 348 in 100 overs?

It's easy to bash Misbah, but let me tell you 2 scenarios - PAK 35/3, & PAK going to tea 150/1.

Everyone probably know what Cook 'll do at 1st scenario. But, I tell you in case of 2nd one - he 'll put 6 men on line & his bowlers would start to measure run-ups, change shoes ....... so that, the law can be applied - 84 overs or 5:30PM, which ever is earlier.

PAK should bat for 83 overs at 1.7 rate & make sure that Poms are in the filed till last minute - back to back Test & Jimmi, Berbi are not spring chickens.
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There is no cutoff time today, all the overs have to be bowled. Reverse of Karachi 2001 anyone?
 
Looks like they have brought Root - so, I guess Cook has started to think for Oval way before tea.
 
MMHS said:
Trust me, if I had the power, first thing I would have done is dropping Azhar - he is one of the biggest crook in this whole mix. Do you know - he was a genuine leggi & can easily bowl 20 overs as 5th bowler - please mark this post, he 'll do that, once MoHa has cleared his test or by some divine blessings is dropped.
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I don't think Azhar has the brains to do that and even if he did, bravo. Hafeez needs to showcase his performance and not care about what someone else does. If this get Hafeez out of the team, you really can't get anything better, Hafeez gets dropped without much drama due to his inability to perform.
 
Adijazz1706 said:
There is no cutoff time today, all the overs have to be bowled. Reverse of Karachi 2001 anyone?
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Has the rule changed? Karachi was different case as there was no defined rule; besides Umpires did a good job to keep the match going; would have been better had they slapped Moin few times as well.
 
Get a 100-120 runs in Session 2 and lose only 1 wicket max. That's when we can start thinking of a win.
 
MMHS said:
Trust me, if I had the power, first thing I would have done is dropping Azhar - he is one of the biggest crook in this whole mix. Do you know - he was a genuine leggi & can easily bowl 20 overs as 5th bowler - please mark this post, he 'll do that, once MoHa has cleared his test or by some divine blessings is dropped.
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Azhar is a crook? Wow ok mate.
 
world cup captain said:
I don't think Azhar has the brains to do that and even if he did, bravo. Hafeez needs to showcase his performance and not care about what someone else does. If this get Hafeez out of the team, you really can't get anything better, Hafeez gets dropped without much drama due to his inability to perform.
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Azhar is a very decent, polished guy. He is a great follower of directions & he is very insecure type guy. You put all 3 in a equation, the math is not that complex.

Who says Hafeez is unable? He went for the shot (I haven't seen, so won't explain technicalities) because he went for the chase.
 
Is it me or any one else noticing the technique and style of sami aslam, VERY MUCH GAMBHIR ESQUE but with excellent temperament and defense... MASHAA ALLAH found a good prospect for future tests... love the way the kid is playing against quality bowlers, mentally strong this kid is.....
 
Simply play for a draw.


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Boi said:
Azhar is a crook? Wow ok mate.
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I have seen lot of people reading synopsis, some people reads the 1st & last para - but hardly have seen anyone reading the 1st line ................
 
draw very likely unless pak have been to the corner shop :), get some batting practice get some confidence for Oval test match.
 
shaaik said:
Wonderful, only that I wd not tinkle with shafique ' s slot and wd rather hv Babar Azam or Imam ul haq to bat one down..

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I wouldn't like to tinker with his spot, but I Mickey isn't going to keep an experienced batsman that low in the order. If his spot isn't changed, then I'm all for even dropping Younus for WI and try out Jahid Ali with Sami and Azhar at 3. This gets us two long term openers along with what Azhar wants, batting at 3. Babar in at 4 and the rest of the order is the same. No harm no foul.
 
wasimjunior said:
Only 4.4 an over. Why is everyone saying it's so unlikely. Pitch is flat and no spinner...

This is our game
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Cos unlike ODI, in tests you can have 100% negative game with fielders on the boundary.

Day 3 final session, England could score that much cos Misbah attacked.

The next morning with defensive fields, England hardly scored 3 rpo.

It was only after tea when England had got enough, they started smashing.

If Pakistan go to tea with 190-2 or 200-2....then sure you have a chance. But for that you have to score 120-130 runs in the next session without losing more than 2 wickets.

There is a huge gap between the cup and the lip.

So Pakistan needs to take things as they come and move forward. If things work out, then go for it.
 
There's no rush at all. The longer it goes without England taking wickets the more demoralising it'll get for them and the more defensive Cook will become. So the key for this pair is to grind out the next session playing risk free cricket. 30 overs can easily yield 80-90 runs without taking risks. Then with nine wickets in the bank and a demoralised opposition on the defensive, they can start swinging in the final session. Pakistan would only need around 6 an over too. If they can score 110 runs in the middle session without taking risks then it makes it that much easier. But the key thing is to not lose wickets, and to unsettle England.
 
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MMHS said:
Azhar is a very decent, polished guy. He is a great follower of directions & he is very insecure type guy. You put all 3 in a equation, the math is not that complex.

Who says Hafeez is unable? He went for the shot (I haven't seen, so won't explain technicalities) because he went for the chase.
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Hafeez has been a liability on the team outside of Asia. In Asia he is brilliant, but that doesn't mean we should have to suffer on tours because of him. Whoever takes his spot can do the same, boost numbers in Asia, choke in big games, drop catches and become best friends with the captain. His record indicates a failure outside of Asia and that you cannot argue against.
 
If we need 5 an over with wickets in hand in the last session then it wont matter if they send all men on the boundary because we mpcan milk them. Just need Azhar and Sami to bat like they have been so far
 
world cup captain said:
Hafeez has been a liability on the team outside of Asia. In Asia he is brilliant, but that doesn't mean we should have to suffer on tours because of him. Whoever takes his spot can do the same, boost numbers in Asia, choke in big games, drop catches and become best friends with the captain. His record indicates a failure outside of Asia and that you cannot argue against.
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What I am arguing here?
 
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