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England beat Pakistan by 3 wickets in the first Test at Manchester in a close encounter

Yasir and tail must add 20-30 runs.
I think we can win it if our bowlers recreate the first innings spells.
 
Yasir and tail must add 20-30 runs.
I think we can win it if our bowlers recreate the first innings spells.

That’s a big ask (recreating spells from 1st innings). Another 10-15 runs even will be very good so let’s c. 260 a good target. 270 should be very good.

Let’s see. Just get a feeling Pakistan are not that confident - amazes me how we undid all the work of 2 days and 2 sessions in just 1 session.
 
I am afraid the timid second innings performance by our batters have made this near impossible
 
If we get another 15-20 runs it will be a miracle. 250 at moment makes it 50/50 game. Should be an exciting day 4 (i think game will end today).
 
137/8 is a shocking score. They should have easily put this game out of Eng's reach. Now it's only 60-40 in Pak's favour.
 
Very interesting day coming up!

I feel Naseem will play a crucial part if Pakistan is going to win the match!

Let’s see what happens - looking forward to see the team triumph!
 
Near impossible is an exaggeration. Still our game to lose

I agree but look at the 8 wickets...tell me which werent gifted!!

They wont be that charitable i still see this track being flat..the spin is for lefties n stokes n burns is the only lefties they have
 
I agree but look at the 8 wickets...tell me which werent gifted!!

They wont be that charitable i still see this track being flat..the spin is for lefties n stokes n burns is the only lefties they have

asad shafiq can also bowl his off spin. Its 60 40 in paks favour.
 
Lets hope umpires are fair when it comes to the marginal calls rather then pathetic stuff so far this summer.
 
The general view on the media in UK is that پاکستان are strong favourites because of conditions and the got to face 2 leg spinners
 
Will england use a pitch roller here?

I was reading that when the 294 was chased by england against NZ, they had used a pitch roller that took out spin.

Panesar was spinning and taking ciwkcets on that pitch and got MOM

So would ENgland groundsman do something similar today?
 
Inshallah they will crumble even BBC thinks it will be a close game i just think the way broad archer woakes batted with freedom.they might attack
 
It has been such an exciting match. It would probably have been a big crowd today under normal circumstances.
 
I know chasing in the 4th innings is never going to be easy, but England will have almost 2 whole days to chase it. Isn’t that relatively easy?
 
I was reading that when the 294 was chased by england against NZ, they had used a pitch roller that took out spin.

Panesar was spinning and taking ciwkcets on that pitch and got MOM

So would ENgland groundsman do something similar today?

Why not? Unless I am missing something
 
England captain JOE ROOT says his side would be confident chasing a target below 260 on this fourth day:

"We showed a lot of character, especially in the field – it would have been easy to lie down and wait for them to make mistakes.

"The bowlers put in a brilliant performance to get us into the position we’re in now and this morning it’s all about trying to wrap up those last two wickets as quickly as we can and believing that we can chase this down.

"We’ve been in similar positions before and chased scores down, we’ve got to believe we can do it. That’s what's going to get us through today – that fighting spirit, that belief we can win this game and to keep showing that character.

"Anything below 260, we really believe we can chase that down. We’ve definitely got the players that can do it. There’s two results can come out of this game and we’ve got to make sure were on the right side of it."
 
I was reading that when the 294 was chased by england against NZ, they had used a pitch roller that took out spin.

Panesar was spinning and taking ciwkcets on that pitch and got MOM

So would ENgland groundsman do something similar today?

Batting team’s Captain will be asked which roller he wants. In the match you are referring to NZ had a pretty ordinary test bowling attack with Chris Martin being leader followed by Kyle Mills and Ian Obrein (Thats a pretty ordinary test pace trio) and Vettori was never a big spinner of the ball. None of the NZ bowers had an average of under 30.

Its cricket so you never know but, quality of NZ attack was pretty ordinary back then.
 
I agree but look at the 8 wickets...tell me which werent gifted!!

They wont be that charitable i still see this track being flat..the spin is for lefties n stokes n burns is the only lefties they have

This is what is causing me indigestion. Had we got out to good balls, I would have been fine. Top order just threw it. Don’t deserve to get away with it tbh.
 
I was reading that when the 294 was chased by england against NZ, they had used a pitch roller that took out spin.

Panesar was spinning and taking ciwkcets on that pitch and got MOM

So would ENgland groundsman do something similar today?

The choice of which roller to use before the innings starts is with the batting captain. Root can choose a heavy roller — it would be Azhar’s choice if Pakistan were batting
 
What is ENG’s highest 4th innings chase in the last ten years across any team in ENG?

And I think someone posted their highest chase against PAK in ENG is 219 from 1982?
 
I hope our remaining batters get out to good balls rather than throw their wickets away. Need as many runs as possible.
 
This is what is causing me indigestion. Had we got out to good balls, I would have been fine. Top order just threw it. Don’t deserve to get away with it tbh.

Its not a award which you may deserve or not. Eng won the ashes match after scoring 60 in first innings. So they did not deserve to win then due to such horrible 1st innings performance?
 
Yasir has talent with the bat and was a good fielder when he started international cricket. It's a shame he never worked on thse aspects more.
 
Shotttttt. Bradman to Thompson. 4 in front of square, MashAllah.
 
I know chasing in the 4th innings is never going to be easy, but England will have almost 2 whole days to chase it. Isn’t that relatively easy?

I dont think its the time or number of days which makes the chasing difficult in the 4th innings, it’s generally the deteriorated conditions. Some spin and bit of uneven bounce. So surviving becomes difficult.
 
Thats the way yasir
Instead of just sticking around attack and score quick runs
 
If the lower order shows some fight here, ENG’s mood might change. Already YS has dented some spirits here. Fight doesn’t mean 50 more necessarily. Just time as well.
 
Yasir has talent with the bat and was a good fielder when he started international cricket. It's a shame he never worked on thse aspects more.

His FC average was 16 ish or something before his debut. I think he underperformed with the bat especially early in his test career.
 
Poor tactics from Yasir to start with Archer. Should have gone for Woakes & abroad. And, well played Yasir - so far has scored 22 more than his Test per of 10 runs...,
 
This pitch has looked flat. Pak gave their wickets away.

Yasir needs to calm down here
 
Yasir doing what Broad did and rather better as its the third innings
 
Poor tactics from Yasir to start with Archer. Should have gone for Woakes & abroad. And, well played Yasir - so far has scored 22 more than his Test per of 10 runs...,

But but Faheem 20 runs could be match winning.

Specialists over fake all rounders every day.
 
I would have never thought yasir would bring a potential man of the match performance. He ahs proven everyone wrong
 
His FC average was 16 ish or something before his debut. I think he underperformed with the bat especially early in his test career.

I think Yasir and Abbas should have been called up years before they were . They would have had even betters carers with more international experience before their peaks years.
 
hilarious how woakes is still not bowling. yasirs runs are very crucial

Archer is rated highly and he hasn’t delivered as well in test cricket until bow other than a test or so in Ashes. I would have gone with Woakes considering how good he was yesterday.
 
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