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England beat Pakistan by 6 wickets in third ODI, chasing down 359 with ease

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Best chance as any for Pakistan to beat England but have their bowlers learnt lessons from the 2nd ODI?
 
Not the best of images but shows that Hassan had moved over at least the same distance as the ball was outside the guide line for those unhappy:

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It was wide

The images clearly suggest not. The ball passed him a few inches outside the guideline as shown in the third image. In the first image his right foot toes are on middle and off, in the second image his right foot heel is on middle and off. His feet are presumably longer than a few inches.
 
England will need highest run chase score to win today...

Highest scores successfully chased in England.

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Think faheem should be left out of WC squad. Of the 11 that played today shadab comes in for imad, professor for Asif and Amir for faheem. I think that’s the best 11
 
Think faheem should be left out of WC squad. Of the 11 that played today shadab comes in for imad, professor for Asif and Amir for faheem. I think that’s the best 11

Why would you replace Asif. That’s dumb. Faheem out Shadab in. That’s it
 
England will be confident of chasing. Buttler being out works in our advantage though.
 
The images clearly suggest not. The ball passed him a few inches outside the guideline as shown in the third image. In the first image his right foot toes are on middle and off, in the second image his right foot heel is on middle and off. His feet are presumably longer than a few inches.

You cant play a normal cricket shot from the position of the batsmen in relation to where the ball passed.

Clear wide. The umpires need to crack down on these lines and apply the laws instead of trying to look smart.
 
The good news is shadab is officaly declared fit thank god yasir has booked a flight back to pakistan.
 
This England side is a fantastic chasing side, even without Buttler. We'll obviously need early wickets, which we haven't done consistently for a few matches now.
 
I would like to see Hasan Ali opening the bowling. Faheem opening the bowling will not work long term.
 
This England side is a fantastic chasing side, even without Buttler. We'll obviously need early wickets, which we haven't done consistently for a few matches now.

Hoping we pull a reverse and they eat up lots of dots for once. At 7+ an over, that run rate will get nailed quickly.
 
You cant play a normal cricket shot from the position of the batsmen in relation to where the ball passed.

Clear wide. The umpires need to crack down on these lines and apply the laws instead of trying to look smart.

He can play the exact same shots he could've played had he not moved and the ball had been well-placed on the wide guide line.
 
With Amir potentially being out of the WC, Hasan Ali should be tested with the new ball.
 
He can play the exact same shots he could've played had he not moved and the ball had been well-placed on the wide guide line.

I think the rules say that the ball has to be within the two lines based on their distance from the wicket irrespective of batsman's position. What happens if the batsman goes and stands outside the pitch will the bowler be allowed to bowl there?


But nice of you to defend England's blatant cheating. First ball tampering in the last match and now this.
 
He can play the exact same shots he could've played had he not moved and the ball had been well-placed on the wide guide line.

He moved but the ball was very wide, way outside the guideline. You cannot play a NORMAL shot from there. It really is very simple.
 
The images clearly suggest not. The ball passed him a few inches outside the guideline as shown in the third image. In the first image his right foot toes are on middle and off, in the second image his right foot heel is on middle and off. His feet are presumably longer than a few inches.

Its a wide mate. What are you talking about
 
Happy to see team Pakistan set a target of 350+
 
355 twice in two matches? Is this Pakistan? Amazing.

Well played Imam, read the forums everyone was saying he is crap anf he ends up making 150 lol shut up all thr critics

After last matcg people wanted Imam dropped because Fakhar played a good innings after a long time lol
 
Afridi will bowl better today now that he has a proper bowling partner rather than the legend Klusener
 
355 twice in two matches? Is this Pakistan? Amazing.

Well played Imam, read the forums everyone was saying he is crap anf he ends up making 150 lol shut up all thr critics

After last matcg people wanted Imam dropped because Fakhar played a good innings after a long time lol

Because of Ramzan?
 
Cant understand why team management believes Hasan shouldnt bowl the new ball
 
PAK must strike with new ball here. Once the ball looses shine (in may be 3 X 2 overs :( ), it'll be really tough to contain, particularly without any genuine spinner. But, all that confidence gained from last game will evaporate if team can't defend this total. Asif's dismissal cost PAK an absolute dominant score.
 
If Shaheen gets smashed today as well and Amir recovers we may have CT bowling attack in the next match. Fingers crossed.
 
I feel you have to bowl a least 1 bouncer to these two within the first 3 balls to keep them on the back foot.
 
I think the rules say that the ball has to be within the two lines based on their distance from the wicket irrespective of batsman's position. What happens if the batsman goes and stands outside the pitch will the bowler be allowed to bowl there?


But nice of you to defend England's blatant cheating. First ball tampering in the last match and now this.

The laws state:

"The ball will be considered as passing wide of the striker unless it is sufficiently within reach for him/her to be able to hit it with the bat by means of a normal cricket stroke."

The ICC clarify that the ball must pitch inside the guide line for a ball to be considered within the batsmans reach in his normal stance. They then also go on to state in the playing conditions that a ball is wide if:

"the ball passes wide of where the striker is standing and which also would have passed wide of the striker standing in a normal guard position."

This clearly states that the guidelines are not fixed if the batsman is not in his 'normal guard position'.

Carrying on whining, it makes winning against the only team that have blatantly cheated (and embarrassingly because they were struggling against a div 2 county side missing half their team) on this tour even more satisfying!
 
I would put a deep cover for Roy. Thats the only place he is looking to hit Shaheen
 
He moved but the ball was very wide, way outside the guideline. You cannot play a NORMAL shot from there. It really is very simple.

A few inches outside the guidelines as the image shows. If you can play a normal shot when the ball is just inside/on the guidelines without moving then you can play a normal shot when the ball is a few inches outside the guideline and you've already moved more than a few inches towards it. Like you say, it really is very simple.
 
The laws state:

"The ball will be considered as passing wide of the striker unless it is sufficiently within reach for him/her to be able to hit it with the bat by means of a normal cricket stroke."

The ICC clarify that the ball must pitch inside the guide line for a ball to be considered within the batsmans reach in his normal stance. They then also go on to state in the playing conditions that a ball is wide if:

"the ball passes wide of where the striker is standing and which also would have passed wide of the striker standing in a normal guard position."

This clearly states that the guidelines are not fixed if the batsman is not in his 'normal guard position'.

Carrying on whining, it makes winning against the only team that have blatantly cheated (and embarrassingly because they were struggling against a div 2 county side missing half their team) on this tour even more satisfying!

Please state just ONE normal shot Hasan Ali could played? I dont think you've played cricket.
 
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