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England end Day 1 of the first Test against Pakistan on a record-breaking 506/4

Not sure why everyone is complaining, Pakistani wickets have always been like this.
 
Love the positive start from England. Would take Pakistan 13 overs to get past 20
 
Who is this Ali ?? the way he is grunting is he another Tanvir Ahmed... lord...:sarf_facepalm
 
Wait what 30 yr old medium pace uncle playing for Pakistan? :)

Our test attack is collectively faster I think

T20s I give it to you guys
 
This Ali guy looks even more innocuous than Mohammad Abbas. Pathetic. Musa Khan, who I am no fan of, is a better option than this mediocrity.
 
Lmaooo, I can see the bazball meme now :)))

Hope a breakthrough happens soon or this could be a phainty of epic proportions.
 
Why create wickets that aid Bazball. Pakistan should swallow their pride and just make spinning wickets.
 
Local.Dada said:
Wait what 30 yr old medium pace uncle playing for Pakistan? :)

Our test attack is collectively faster I think

T20s I give it to you guys
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What is your Test attack? Shami, Siraj, Bumrah?

Siraj I give it to you is a brilliantly evolving bowler with good pace.
 
England batting faster than we bat in T20's. Pakistan deserves this clowning.
 
Ominous signs. England playing their typical brand of attacking cricket and I'm not sure if Pak have the experience or depth in their bowling to put pressure back on them.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Why create wickets that aid Bazball. Pakistan should swallow their pride and just make spinning wickets.
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With what spinners? The best spinner in Pakistan is Shadab Khan and he isn’t even part of the Test side. :)))

We still haven’t settled on a Test attack and this is exactly what happens when you keep playing oldies with no pace.

The best bet was to prepare a fast and bouncy wicket that would aid Naseem and Rauf.
 
ExpressPacer said:
What is your Test attack? Shami, Siraj, Bumrah?

Siraj I give it to you is a brilliantly evolving bowler with good pace.
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And backup of Umesh. Don’t go by first 2-3 over burst, they maintain 140s even on day 5.

On average we probably have the fastest consistent attack right up there with Australia In tests. Unfortunately we play trash trundlers in t20 but test is the real format
 
On this wicket Eng will be 375/2 by the end of the day. Pakistan win already out of equation.
 
Who is this medium Pacer? Even Azhar Mahmood was faster than this guy? This guy is like Astle, Sarker, Grandhome type bowler not a proper fast bowler.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Why create wickets that aid Bazball. Pakistan should swallow their pride and just make spinning wickets.
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Tough to create spinning wickets in winter in this part of the world.

But they could've surely produced something much better.
 
Ashmal said:
Tough to create spinning wickets in winter in this part of the world.

But they could've surely produced something much better.
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Why would Pakistan create spin tracks when they have decent fast bowlers?

In fact in India we win with fast bowlers at home too now so not all pitches are dust bowls. You need to back your strength.
 
Ashmal said:
Naseem has bowled well....been pretty unlucky so far
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Naseem’s test will be 2nd and 3rd spells epseicllay when things are not going Pakistans way. Maybe he has improved. In Aus he was cooked by day 2
 
Local.Dada said:
And backup of Umesh. Don’t go by first 2-3 over burst, they maintain 140s even on day 5.

On average we probably have the fastest consistent attack right up there with Australia In tests. Unfortunately we play trash trundlers in t20 but test is the real format
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They are early 140s at best which is what a fit Shaheen and Shaheen can maintain. But yeah, I do think that the Indian attack is better than Pakistan’s at the moment in terms of pace and skill.

However, if you are an objective observer of the game, the Indian attack is far more experienced and also much older on average age.
 
Local.Dada said:
Why would Pakistan create spin tracks when they have decent fast bowlers?

In fact in India we win with fast bowlers at home too now so not all pitches are dust bowls. You need to back your strength.
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Because Eng can't play spin.
 
This is a complete road. :))

They're going to get smashed around the park all day.
 
So after England put up a mammoth score Pakistan would be on the back foot already where they will be fighting for a draw.
 
Look, England have scored more in the first 6 overs than Pakistan usually do in the T20 powerplay.
 
So, just to confirm, the speed gun doesn't work & the DRS doesn't work.

Amazing stuff from Pakistan.
 
ExpressPacer said:
They are early 140s at best which is what a fit Shaheen and Shaheen can maintain. But yeah, I do think that the Indian attack is better than Pakistan’s at the moment in terms of pace and skill.

However, if you are an objective observer of the game, the Indian attack is far more experienced and also much older on average age.
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Bumrah and Siraj are pretty young. We need more pacers to step in to replace Umesh and Shami, Prasidh maybe.

Also Shaheen outside of opening bursts in t20 or the odd new ball spell is 135-145 bowler. He bowls in the same range as Shami.

Doesn’t make him a lesser bowler though.
 
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ExpressPacer said:
With what spinners? The best spinner in Pakistan is Shadab Khan and he isn’t even part of the Test side. :)))

We still haven’t settled on a Test attack and this is exactly what happens when you keep playing oldies with no pace.

The best bet was to prepare a fast and bouncy wicket that would aid Naseem and Rauf.
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What about Abrar? Also, it is not about Pakistan. In this English team, only Joe Root has a proven track record of playing spin in Asia! There's a classic way to target England and PAK curators made a pitch that will allow these Bazballers to swipe at the ball with no fear :facepalm
 
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Embarrassing stuff from PCB. Ramiz is more into building PR than working on stuff that matters. How can your DRS be temporarily down ? The support staff deserve to be fired immediately.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
What about Abrar? Also, it is not about Pakistan. In this English team, only Joe Root has a proven track record of playing spin in Asia! There's a classic way to target England and PAK curators made a pitch that will allow these Bazballers to swipe at the ball with no fear :facepalm
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Abrar wasn’t picked because Babar is the worst captain we’ve ever had in terms of team selection.

Spinners won’t do much. This is going to be a draw or England are going to thump us if this rollicking start is any indication.
 
Don't think M Waim doesn't even see matches before choosing players. He just goes with the stats.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
What about Abrar? Also, it is not about Pakistan. In this English team, only Joe Root has a proven track record of playing spin in Asia! There's a classic way to target England and PAK curators made a pitch that will allow these Bazballers to swipe at the ball with no fear :facepalm
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England only struggle on dust bowls. On flat and sporting tracks they destroy spinners.
 
Babar is such a clown captain that he picks Zahid Mahmood ahead of Abrar Ahmed. Zahid is not even a starter for his Sindh team.

Jokers
 
Looking forward to see Haris Rauf bowl in tests. For some reason feel he will do well.
 
Babar is not a captain material to start with plus he is not fare with selection. Since PCB's expectation is way to low so he gets away with so many defeats. Saqlain is just another Yes man whose job nodding his head in favour of Babar
 
Suleiman said:
Abrar wasn’t picked because Babar is the worst captain we’ve ever had in terms of team selection.

Spinners won’t do much. This is going to be a draw or England are going to thump us if this rollicking start is any indication.
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Spinners won't do much on this highway, maybe. I meant create a spinning wicket and pick your best domestic spinners. The only non Asian side that can play spin in Asia is OZ. Rest only have 1 or 2 players.
 
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Savak said:
Not sure why everyone is complaining, Pakistani wickets have always been like this.
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No.

2019 SL series and 2021 SA series, pindi wicket was pretty great for seamers.

This is a deliberate tampered pitch prepared by Rambo the coward.
 
Local.Dada said:
Bumrah and Siraj are pretty young. We need more pacers to step in to replace Umesh and Shami, Prasidh maybe.

Also Shaheen outside of opening bursts in t20 or the odd new ball spell is 135-145 bowler. He bowls in the same range as Shami.

Doesn’t make him a lesser bowler though.
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Shaheen and Naseem at in their early 20s…

Siraj and Bumrah are both nearly 30.

These 6-7 years make a big difference in a fast bowler’s development.

As for Shaheen’s pace, 135-145 by your own admission, is really good pace. I doubt that Indian fast bowlers exclusively bowl above 140.
 
Local.Dada said:
England only struggle on dust bowls. On flat and sporting tracks they destroy spinners.
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Unless it's a flat track , they can't play spin(Root and Jennings apart). You dont need a dust bowl 3 day pitch. A decent amount of spin and these guys cant survive for long.
 
Welcome to Pakistan where cricket pitches are made by the National Highway Authority. :)))
 
ExpressPacer said:
Shaheen and Naseem at in their early 20s…

Siraj and Bumrah are both nearly 30.

These 6-7 years make a big difference in a fast bowler’s development.

As for Shaheen’s pace, 135-145 by your own admission, is really good pace. I doubt that Indian fast bowlers exclusively bowl above 140.
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Umesh and Shami are rhythm bowlers, they bowl spells in 145 at times effortlessly. You should see the way they destroyed SA, Nzl and smaller teams a couple of years back with reverse swing not seen since the days of 2 W’s. In fact Umesh and Ishant bowler faster than Aussie pace attack in 2012. We got blanked 4-0 is another debate. As you said the are older now but still easily bowl in early 140s


Sure Naseem and Shaheen are younger and I did say Shaheen is a very good bowler but I see people rating him as a Lee- Akthar-Bond or even Starc level bowler when it comes to speed. Dare I say he might end up taking more wickets then them i tests if he keeps it together or doesn’t get mishandled.
 
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Any batsman worth his salt should feel ashamed if he gets out below hundred on this road.
 
So annoying watching this mediocre Crawley destroy our bowlers. He was been such a garbage player in Tests outside of facing Pakistan.
 
A tailor made pitch for English batsmen

Babar Azam aspires no confidence as a captain, no courage at all.
 
Local.Dada said:
Is this really a road or are people assuming that based on England’s start ?
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There is hardly any grass on the pitch, no pace and bounce on the pitch. It is a dead wicket. The pitch doesn't spin much as well.
 
Zeshan547 said:
Color of the pitch, and zero seem and swing, what more prove of a road you need?
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I have seen pitches that look like this in India and Bangladesh on day 1. But usually match is over by day 4.anyway you guys know Pakistani conditions better so will go with your word.
 
shah_1 said:
A tailor made pitch for English batsmen

Babar Azam aspires no confidence as a captain, no courage at all.
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Zahid over abrar is a very cautious decision. Going for the more experienced although rubbish option. Zahid is usually hammered by our poor domestic batsmen. What chance does he have against England
 
Can't believe they chose Zahid Mahmood. This guy isn't even a preferred choice in FC cricket.
 
There's not even any pace in the pitch either. Batsmen look like they have all day to play the pitch.
 
England batsman should enjoy themselves, they. may never get such a road ever again.
 
How bad is this Zahid? Even Nauman is a better bowler than this.
 
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