England v Australia | 1st Test - Day 5 | Cardiff | 12/7/09

OZGOD

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There can only be one winner in this match. The question is - can Australia force a win?

Drawski is still the most likely scenario given the possibility of rain interruptions. I would really love for us to win this though, with Horroritz bagging some and cleaning them up to rub it in even more. That would really put us in good shape and avoid any Pom headlines about "heroic rearguards saving the draw and winning a moral victory" etc.

If you think about it this is the best possible scenario for Horroritz to shine - turning wicket, 239 run lead, unloseable match, nobody expects him to take wickets, and the Poms are physically and psychologically shot. If Horroritz is unable to take wickets tomorrow on a fifth day turning wicket like this I seriously doubt whether he will figure in the rest of the series, with Twatson, Clark and Lee all set to be available (Lee later in the series). This is his moment - he needs to seize it if he can. If he chokes with all this in his favour, I would ship him back to Australia ASAP, economy class.

Compared to the McGrath-Warne-Gilly-etc team we used to have, what we've missed is the ability to take the weather/umpiring decisions/external factors out of the equation as we don't have the firepower to win Tests in 3 or 4 days anymore. Before it didn't matter if we lost a couple of sessions to rain because we could still take the 20 wickets we needed in 3 or 4 days. These days we need the full five, and that may not be enough even if we win more sessions than the other team.

The biggest gap right now is the lack of a spinner as Horroritz is truly pedestrian. He's the primary reason why I'm hesitant to say that if we get a full days' play in we should win tomorrow. Our quicks will really have to step up.

I'll be doing my own dance to keep the rain away :D
 
I don't know if this Australian line up can take ten wickets but I'll be hoping they can

:)) @ Horroritz
 
It rained non-stop in Cardiff for 16 hours - but sun is shining at the moment.
 
Anyone who thinks England will save this match is deluded. Australia have a massive mental hold over most of these England players that goes beyond mere superiority in terms of skill. Unless Pietersen bats for most of the day, England will lose. I wouldn't be surprised if the job was done before Tea, to be honest.
 
If you look at previous Ashes captains, they lead from the front - and lead by example by virtue of their batting (Ponting; Vaughan; Hussain etc etc) - big scores needed.

Strauss has to score BIG today otherwise he pressure will be on him; I sense the media will be after him if they lose today - which I expect them to do
 
Strauss' captaincy has been very poor at all times since he snatched the responsibility from Pietersen. He is very defensive and negative-minded and doesn't seem like an inspirational person to be around. But he will never be in trouble because he fits into the English Cricket Bureaucracy's idealistic world of private school boys running English cricket. Kevin Pietersen should be the captain and everybody knows it - he mightn't be a brilliant captain yet but he was okay and did at least bring some life to the team. He would have built an England side in his image at the very least which is better than Strauss building one in his image.

If we do lose then there will at least be a few positives. The myth of James Anderson's brilliance shall be dispelled - I've been saying for months that he's a mediocre bowler who bashes minnows. Stuart Broad will probably fall by the wayside which, as much as he has improved in his speed and nous, is the fair decision at the moment. He just isn't cutting it and will be better off playing for Nottinghamshire and honing his skills. It would be nice for me to see a sixth batsman coming in - whether Ian Bell, Owais Shah or Samit Patel. Preferably one of the latter two because Ian Bell has plasticine balls.
 
Taurus said:
Strauss' captaincy has been very poor at all times since he snatched the responsibility from Pietersen. He is very defensive and negative-minded and doesn't seem like an inspirational person to be around. But he will never be in trouble because he fits into the English Cricket Bureaucracy's idealistic world of private school boys running English cricket. Kevin Pietersen should be the captain and everybody knows it - he mightn't be a brilliant captain yet but he was okay and did at least bring some life to the team. He would have built an England side in his image at the very least which is better than Strauss building one in his image.

If we do lose then there will at least be a few positives. The myth of James Anderson's brilliance shall be dispelled - I've been saying for months that he's a mediocre bowler who bashes minnows. Stuart Broad will probably fall by the wayside which, as much as he has improved in his speed and nous, is the fair decision at the moment. He just isn't cutting it and will be better off playing for Nottinghamshire and honing his skills. It would be nice for me to see a sixth batsman coming in - whether Ian Bell, Owais Shah or Samit Patel. Preferably one of the latter two because Ian Bell has plasticine balls.

Strauss is captain because you had nobody else left who could be captain.

KP only has his massive ego to blame for not being captain.

Broad is an interesting one, you can certainly see the improvement in his bowling but is it enough? Probably not in an Ashes series.

South Africa carried Morkel for a while before losing patience, England have done the same with Broad and may have to make the same call. Australia did the same thing with Mitchell Johnson and he was very very very close to being sent back to domestic cricket as well.

The only thing that saved MJ is he just has a habit of taking wickets with ordinary deliveries - when he is on fire he is a big danger but when he is not he still manages to take a few wickets. That being said he is nowhere near as good a bowler as he is hyped to be, at this stage.
 
What happened in the warmup today? Johnson stormed towards the England boys - had to be restrained by Clarke??
 
HAHA!

Pietersen comprehensively bowled by Hilfenhus!!!

Game over!
 
Will try to find out Oxy.

The Aussie commentators here (they have some Aussies in a studio before they throw to all the Poms commentating) made a couple of interesting points yesterday:

1) The English players (who can never resist an interview) keep talking about the pressure and their nerves WHILE THE GAME IS GOING ON. The Aussie team absolutely love this, it shows how mentally weak they are.

2) Almost all the English players have their (sponsored) sunglasses on the top of their caps. This is a no no because the sunglasses obscure the crest of the country they are representing. Hints at commercialism being more important than patriotism.
 
Lol KP. :)))

Edit: Oxy apparently KP was sledging MJ during the warm up.

Double Lol at KP :))) :))) What a tool. Sledge the opposition's fastest bowler.
 
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England probably going to lose this match by an innings.

Very handy when the opposition's best batsman gives you his wicket both times :D
 
Capitaan saab is gone! Caught behind.

Hauritz Warne

47-4

Could be over before lunch!
 
How long befor Collingwood is given out 'pading up - no shot played'?
 
Oxy said:
How long befor Collingwood is given out 'pading up - no shot played'?

Our man Aleem will do the hnours shortly :D
 
Short leg milimetres from dismissing Collingwood!
 
Hauritz looking LETHAL!

Collingwood nearly plays on - has to kick the ball away from the stumps!
 
Isnt this the same Hauritz who looked average in UAE?
 
:))) c'mon Aussies...smash these overrated clowns!
 
Prince of Pakistan said:
the NOTHING bowler Hauritz has become a mystery spinner without the doosra,teesra,chohta,paanchwa, chewa

Maybe so but he has the nude ball! :)) :))
 
Flintoff asking Ponting did you catch it ?/ *** ???? dude what do you think someone like Ponting would say ?????????///// :))) :)))


Ponting nodding his 'honest' head; YES MATE ITS A CLEAN CATCH !!!!!!!! :)))
 
Sounds like a situation custom made for Pakistani batting lineup....
 
Siddle peppering Swann. Hits him on left hand, left elbow and then right hand
Eng 166-7 - trail by 73
35 overs left today
 
Siddle whats up with his arrogance, the guy is still in his diapers... Loved the way Dhoni smacked the crap out of him last test.. Arrogant *****
 
Cmon England - Resist with all your might !!!
 
Fun test cricket atlast after the joke pulled by Pakistani this morning

Can ZEE TV borrow some of Sky Sport's production values, makes such a difference.
 
England 200-7 - trail by 39 runs
New ball available now. Collingwood takes a bathroom break as ball is taken. Not taken yet but should be this over as Hilfenhaus is on
25 overs left
 
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24 overs left
could be one of our greatest escapes
 
Pretty sure England will pull through now ... Engerland, Engerland !!!
 
still dont know which team to suppot.

Been living in London for a year now want to support England, but I hate KP so much
 
M Johnson bowling wides. 2 in two overs and another one which could have been called. Plus a few balls which are over a foot away from off stump
211-7 England 28 behind
 
Johnson doing a harmison impression
If England can pull it off, it will be a great achievement and they will be cock a hoop going into the next game.
 
Is all 20 overs gonna be bowled. Cause i have this terrible feeling the Engish are gonna draw this, despite not having the right to.
 
Regardless of what the result is - this day 5 has been fantastic viewing.

The 'test cricket is dead, long live t20' crowd are rather quiet.
 
ahmed16 said:
Is all 20 overs gonna be bowled. Cause i have this terrible feeling the Engish are gonna draw this, despite not having the right to.

I could name recent tests against India, West Indies and South Africa where our bowlers have had them 8 or 9 down on the final evening and not won, despite fully deserving to. That's cricket!
 
I now have Immense respect for Colly , the guy is trying his best to save his team............
 
Anderson 50 innings without a duck. Leading the list
second is Yasir Hameed with 45 innings
 
Ponting furious not given a plumb not out by Dar :D>...........Then claiming he caught the ball toooo.....
 
Punter back to his cheating ways of trying to look so shcoked.

Aleem Dar is one of the best Ponting.

Surely he should be fined at some point.
 
Pietersen what an idiot, everytime you see the way he got out today
 
England trail by 14 and 15 overs left in the day
England needs to survive 12 overs I guess. That will give them a 10-15 run lead and one over left in the day
 
oho! how did this get so exciting all of a sudden, So Australia require 2 more wickets while England need to survive another 13 overs after this one. Very similar to the old trafford test of 2005 except with the roles reversed between the two teams!
 
Wassixpakistani said:
I don't know who to root for :( .


hahah same issue here.

I want a situation like

Australia 1 over 15 runs to win!!!

imagine
 
Hauritz getting bounce with the newer ball and posing collingwood a lot of problems, getting the glove of the first ball...he negotiates the latter part of the over though, 232-8 12 overs to go...and anderson on strike for the next over.
 
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