Mainul
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5-20 in the first innings is pure class, Anderson is a top bowler.
A legend.Awsome experience to watch him bowl.One of my all time favorite.
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5-20 in the first innings is pure class, Anderson is a top bowler.
What's the weather forecast for the last 3 days ?
5-20 in the first innings is pure class, Anderson is a top bowler.
Why are there more Pakistanis on this thread, compared to Indians? ������
Amir.
Almost all the team will struggle in this condition against this attack. Even Ponting's Australia were bundled for only 84 in England against Pakistan.This happens in cricket.India did very well in first test.
"five for Anderson, and 99 wickets for Jimmy Anderson at Lord's" the lord of Lord's
Right Test cricket sucks because of that. We scored 282+382 in Eng back in 2010.
Most wickets at a venue:
166 M Muralitharan in SSC
117 M Muralitharan in Kandy
111 M Muralitharan in Galle
99 R Herath in Galle
99 J Anderson at Lord's
No one can pass Sir Murali...He was literally unplayable in Srilanka.Nobody could exploit home condition better than him.
Why are there more Pakistanis on this thread, compared to Indians? ������
Opposite IMO.
Most wickets at a venue:
166 M Muralitharan in SSC
117 M Muralitharan in Kandy
111 M Muralitharan in Galle
99 R Herath in Galle
99 J Anderson at Lord's
No one can pass Sir Murali...He was literally unplayable in Srilanka.Nobody could exploit home condition better than him.
May be not in your book but he is.550 test wickets in any era is not an easy task.
107 all out,best batting line up in the world. Having a good feeling
Damn these Lankan spinners really love Lanka
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Why are there more Pakistanis on this thread, compared to Indians? ������
Why are there more Pakistanis on this thread, compared to Indians? ������
He has a superb record but he’s not been a match-winner in Asia.
And he just took his first five-fer in Australia after four tours while the likes of Ambrose and Akram took ten-fer’s in their first.
You posted in the wrong thread.... This should go here:
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?275182-Excuses-when-England-beat-India-this-summer
AUS requires better batting while ENG requires better bowling.
Conditions in Eng demands a balanced team. Pak batting of course can get bundled out on a low score which usually means conditions are good for bowling and then bowling comes around to save them. A good bowling can never recover the damages done by a bad batting. Pak batting, when horrific, would never result in a victory - it just has to be at least mediocre for bowlers to do their job.
In AU, bounce does play a role but more than that, it is discipline. Bowlers stick to a good line and length and batsmen leaving good balls. We lack discipline in batting and bowling a lot of time and start experimenting instead. It is the biggest reason of our poor record in AU.
Why are there more Pakistanis on this thread, compared to Indians? ������
Field day for these jealous Pakistanis seeing Kohli fail.
I think this Australia - England / India - Pakistan dichotomy deserves its own thread.
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View attachment 83245 India 107 all out
The standard of fielding in this series has been extremely poor so far. I do not remember England dropping these many catches in any series. Almost, half of the catches have been dropped.
These days ICC is against Test cricket, hence in every opportunity they try to stop the game, and today at least 15 overs was lost for that "extra caution" (but they can play T20 under rain & thunderstorm - no issues there).
This is quite normal in ENG actually.
These days ICC is against Test cricket, hence in every opportunity they try to stop the game, and today at least 15 overs was lost for that "extra caution" (but they can play T20 under rain & thunderstorm - no issues there). In ENG, Test cricket has been played in much inferior condition in past. For example, in 1976 WIN tour, probably at Manchester ENG's 2, 40+ openers batted for 18 overs, without helmet against Holding & Roberts at their fastest - innings started when street lights were on and umpires carried on playing, while ENG batsmen didn't complain after being hit almost every over.
Most people these days judge condition or wicket from score card - that's CricInfo cricket. Today, most of last 7 IND wicket fell under scorching sun on English standard - main reason being batsmen struggling to figure out where off-stick is - an useless skill that isn't required in the grand format of cricket. There was absolutely no reason why Kohli should flick that out swinger, Rahne after batting for 2 hours would give a catching practice, Pandeya would poke at the very next ball after being dropped and least said bout Kartick is better. Only Vijay was really unlucky and Pujara was run-out - KL's push at harmless out-swinger won't last long unless wicket is absolute road - he could have easily shoulder-armed that ball.
Certainly not 500+ condition/wicket, but after ENG dropped Rahne, it was possible to reach 300+ even from 15/3 with better application, as the sun was out by 20th over.
They can learn fielding and catching from Pakistan.
Who thought that sentence would be uttered three years ago...
Steve Rixon is available.
If it does not rain, there is no way England are losing this test. 107 is a match losing 1st inning score. Conditions will be much easier tomorrow. They have to score just 307 to get a lead of 200 which will result in most probably an innings defeat.
No chance for this Indian batting line up and for every other batting line up today apart from perhaps the Saffers if Amla and Faf were in good form as they have the defence and intelligence to play the swing.
The Duke ball would have continued swinging in such conditions all the way through to 80 overs and it was swinging both ways. Add to this the seam movement when the ball gripped the grass, you have to be a great batting line up to get near 300.
However India should have got nearer 200 with some application but simply dont have the quality of players do deliver.
No chance for this Indian batting line up and for every other batting line up today apart from perhaps the Saffers if Amla and Faf were in good form as they have the defence and intelligence to play the swing.
The Duke ball would have continued swinging in such conditions all the way through to 80 overs and it was swinging both ways. Add to this the seam movement when the ball gripped the grass, you have to be a great batting line up to get near 300.
However India should have got nearer 200 with some application but simply dont have the quality of players do deliver.
There was nowhere you were going to safely squeeze in anywhere close to 15 overs today.
Indian team of 2011 would have easily scored 250+ on this pitch. Kohli has replaced Tendulkar but none has been able to replace Dravid and VVS.
PAK did score 350+ despite Babar's injury (otherwise ENG's drops could have let PAK to 450), in May when condition was much, much difficult (Check FC scores that time, I did post it some where), because of couple of hours real good work by Azhar & Asad. ENG did drop catches, but they did here as well. In Test cricket, you have to grind it out - IND is all-out inside 35 overs here - make it 80/3 after 35, equation changes completely.
I do agree with "today" part - cricket has come to modern era and batting has become dynamic indeed.
It was 2nd Day, not the start of Test, and they knew the weather forecast - is this Bible that Test has to start at 11 AM, when they could have easily stared at 10 AM under sun, knowing that there is a certain mid day rain delay?
Then, the 3:10PM restart could have been done 20 minutes earlier.
Because where does it stop? If it's forecast for a washout with rain starting at 11am do we start at 4am? What chance of rain do you have to have to change the timings of the day? If you have open, subjective rules such as this you're regularly going to have one of the sides feel it's unfair.
Only by risking the fielders safety given there was still puddles on the outfield.
Not in my opinion. India scored 286 in 2011 at Lords with Dravid making a century on a good track where England scored 450+ in the first innings. India didn't score near 300 in the fourth innings either and it was nothing to do with the ball turning sqaure which it often does in the 4th innings, as Swann only picked up 1 wicket.
However yes Dravid and Tendu had better techniques against the moving red ball.
Summer started early in England, May was a decent time for batting. Now with cloud cover and the heat, the atmosphere is perfect for swing bowling in England. If this cloudy/rainy/sunny/warm on/off weather continues for the next month, India will be humiliated again and again in the next 3 tests.
[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] bro can you please give your expertise on what happened in the BD/WI Tests thread too. Genuine query. Was it the batting, bowling, team selection etc?
I can, but it's already over.
I am really surprised that after knowing me for almost 10 years in PP, few of you are still trying get some mileage out that 43 (I hardly care to be honest), which is a bit silly and clutching straw effort. I spent entire month on Soccer WC in our short summer and was busy for a professional certification, hence left PP for 3 weeks, starting from the day WC final ended. Besides, cricket in WI or ZIM wasn't quality enough to spend time on it - you should have noticed that, in a limited capacity, I am back in PP the day real cricket started - ENG-IND Test series.
Regarding that series, I actually believe we over achieved - where BD & WI stands in cricket, combined format, I think I have explained that many times. In fact, it's me who wrote long back before 43, what'll happen between WI-BD Test series in WIN, you might have missed that.
Our batsmen are groomed on slow turners and low bounce, that too in T20 era, hence there is very little surprise that they'll struggle on a damp green wicket, being put in by WI. And, they played the 1st Test 6 days after landing with one joke of a practice game. By the 2nd Test, from Day 2 it was quite close and that gives me confidence enough that WI'll lose the return Test Series in BD this winter.
We are better ODI team, and as expected won the series, though it should have been 3-0. The bonus of the tour was unexpected T20 series win, therefore it wasn't that bad a tour.
Regarding team selection & others - since Hathura left in a sudden, team did struggle for lack direction without any coaching staff for almost 9 months and Shakib himself was a new Captain settling with his team. I understand, it's OK for IND-PAK captains to struggle at the start, but it can't happen for minnows - obviously, 5-0 in NZ was made up immediately for the T20 series, but 43 will remain for ever and MMHS did hide for that in shame (remember 43 - it's indeed a significant number, when it comes to WIN .... if you drag back a little in history). Since Rhodes has joined, he has taken few steps in right direction, we should see how much effective those are in Asia Cup.
Still, if you wish to share your expertise on the issue further, I am here - at the start of weekend, we have 2 days.
Kohli might have saved India again today had Malan been in the slips. He still managed to have a drop chance in that little innings of hisThere you have it as I have said all along India put in to bat score a paltry 107! The world's number one Test side again looking abysmal away from home! It is easy to win in home conditions when the crowd is behind you and pitches are made to suit India. Here as we have it when the shoe is on the other foot England are making India look like a pub side. Even Kohli couldn't help them today
I have no ill intentions man. Was just wondering what went wrong. No need to get so defensive. Just wanted to know what went spectacularly wrong and how to resolve the issue.
This post is in the wrong threadDamn..... on a batting paradise India got all out for 107.
Indian team of 2011 would have easily scored 250+ on this pitch. Kohli has replaced Tendulkar but none has been able to replace Dravid and VVS.
How many lives did Kohli get in his 20?
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Rohit should play the next match
India have checked out.
I would hold my horses before having field day on our guys. Everybody could see ball swinging and seaming square. Not ideal condition for batters. So, I will have judgement after England finish batting.
I think this Australia - England / India - Pakistan dichotomy deserves its own thread.
In 2002 tour, at Leeds, India scored 630+/6 or so, after scoring like 220/2 in Day 1 (& 400+ @ 5/over on Day 2) - and I can assure you, that wicket was greener, condition was gloomier ..... and it was Hedingley under cloud, with wind .... and END had Gough, Caddick, Hoggard, Flintoff. What Dravid & Bangar did on Day 1, a similar effort by just one batsman in top 5 could have changed the entire game. IND's bad luck also was that Pujara got run-out - he is one player who can spend hours in middle without bothering to score and leaving balls on length; he did that at J'burg last time.
He may actually make a come back. You never know. There are plenty of spots available in the middle order.
Seems like a bygone era now. We can't even do those things at home nowadays.
India the worst number one team in the world rely on one player who is selfish and a liar and is their captain LOL.
We lost last time because we had:
1) Two 40+ batsmen in the middle-order
2) Rahat “Destroyer” Ali, Imran “FAST” Khan, and Sohail “Mein Hero Hoon” Khan were part of the attack. (Wahab was our best bowler and Amir was decent without being great).
3) Yasir was forced to bowl a leg-side line and forced to accept responsibility for it.
1. The 2 40+ bats: Unfortunately those were indispensable bats and we did not try younger bats to replace them sooner. We kept on trying the dead beats.
2. Rahat is the most over rated bowler of all the Pak bowlers. The guy can't bowl 2 balls on same lengths and line. His whole persona as a bowler is puke worthy. The way this guy runs to the wicket is a shame to our bowling tradition. I would rather watch Mudassar nazar gentle medium pace run up than him. Imran has bowled well in middle east - his bowling does lack byte but he is a decent support bowler. Sohail khan is only good for t20 for his fitness.
3. That was the most pathetic strategy I ever witnessed from a leggie. What was the captain's strategy? The little cricket I get to watch these days, I hardly ever see a leg spinner bowling with a defensive line let alone one of the teams strike bowlers.