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England vs South Africa | 3rd Test, Lords | Aug 16-20

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If saffers lose from here they NEVER deserved the #1 ranking. Sure there are the horrible decisions. But I think they will even out over the days.
 
That rod tucker guy needs to be sacked how can you not know the rules for something you make a living for. Oh well England better win this now if they still cant then they clearly dont deserve to be number #1. Not that they deserve it anyways bunch of htb imo would get smashed in Pak/Uae and India every time.
 
Massive test of rudolph and duminy (In next) to prove they arent the weak links in this S.A side.

Smiths decision to bat 1st right now looking bad!
 
malakian said:
Haha, careful Robert, he's going to take his ball home in a minute.
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English whiners trying to act tough, it's frankly downright hilarious.

But we'll see how they react, my precious, once there's a 200 run partnership
 
truthseer said:
English whiners trying to act tough, it's frankly downright hilarious.

But we'll see how they react, my precious, once there's a 200 run partnership
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I haven't seen any England fan here whining mate, only you, for reasons unknown!
 
truthseer said:
English whiners trying to act tough, it's frankly downright hilarious.

But we'll see how they react, my precious, once there's a 200 run partnership
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It doesn't seem hilarious from your previous posts, it sounds like you're having a massive paddy. Just appreciate the world's best bowlers in action.
 
malakian said:
It doesn't seem hilarious from your previous posts, it sounds like you're having a massive paddy. Just appreciate the world's best bowlers in action.
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At home ;-)

Howz the gf Malakian? UNpacked it for the winter tour??
 
Must be most england fans on a Test match thread on pp on one day in almost a year ;)
 
Heavy downpour where I am in Camden, be surprised if they come straight back out after lunch
 
Lara400 said:
nowt to with DRS, that was a poor umpiring decision!!!

U don't miss a chance!!
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Well the point is, the DRS was supposed to reduce errors in cricket. In this case, if the DRS was not there, then the umpires decision would have stood which was the right decision. If a system supposed to eradicate errors is adding its own errors, obviously the system is not working?
 
Indiafan said:
Well the point is, the DRS was supposed to reduce errors in cricket. In this case, if the DRS was not there, then the umpires decision would have stood which was the right decision. If a system supposed to eradicate errors is adding its own errors, obviously system is not working?
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Like I said in the other thread, it's the Dravid Removal system all over again
 
Early congrats to the poms. They'll probably win the test on the back of a few howlers, claim to be the best in the world, and label the saffers as chokers.

Oh and this malakian troll was nowhere to be found after the first day of the first test, and suddenly he rears his ugly end :/
 
Best thread in months, the bitterness is enthralling
 
Haha chill out girls. I'm off to do some work, when i return i expect the chokers to be bowled out.
 
Jo_Don said:
Oh and this malakian troll was nowhere to be found after the first day of the first test, and suddenly he rears his ugly end :/
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Funnily enough, that's the case with most English fans. Just wait and see how he digs himself in a hole, if SA somehow manages to turn this match in their favor.
 
Jo_Don said:
Early congrats to the poms. They'll probably win the test on the back of a few howlers, claim to be the best in the world, and label the saffers as chokers.

Oh and this malakian troll was nowhere to be found after the first day of the first test, and suddenly he rears his ugly end :/
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Exactly! And see, he never posts unless England are going to have a good day. Because he knows when they've cheated and bought the umpires
 
truthseer said:
Trolling a troll, mate. No bitterness here. I support England over every team other than us, the Saffers and the Aussies
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I don't see why it's trolling to point out England's superiority, after all, we are ranked #1. We've had a patchy year, but we're still the most talented side in world cricket.
 
malakian said:
I don't see why it's trolling to point out England's superiority, after all, we are ranked #1. We've had a patchy year, but we're still the most talented side in world cricket.
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That's why you're losing the series to the Saffers
 
style_guru said:
Funnily enough, that's the case with most English fans.
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Is it 'eck. One of the largest and loudest home supports and certainly the largest and most loyal away support in world cricket.
 
Indiafan said:
Well the point is, the DRS was supposed to reduce errors in cricket. In this case, if the DRS was not there, then the umpires decision would have stood which was the right decision. If a system supposed to eradicate errors is adding its own errors, obviously the system is not working?
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Wrong.

DRS is not meant to reduce errors.

The purpose of DRS is to provide evidence which can assist Umpires in decision making.

The buck still stops at the Umpire and 3rd Umpire who interpret the evidence.
 
truthseer said:
So how'd the Saffers get 20 wickets, RandyOz?
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First innings: clouds marched over on the first session of the second day, and reduced 270-2 or something to 380 all out.

That was the one session where the climate helped the bowlers. The cloud vanished and SA batted well on the roadiest road this side of the M25.

Second innings: scoreboard pressure.

Without the cloud in that one session, the first test would have been a high-scoring draw for sure.

So if England were just lucky with Kallis, SA were lucky with the weather at the Oval.

Luck evens out in the end, which is why a 5-match series is better than a 3-match.
 
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Robert said:
First innings: clouds marched over on the first session of the second day, and reduced 270-2 or something to 380 all out.

That was the one session where the climate helped the bowlers. The cloud vanished and SA batted well on the roadiest road this side of the M25.

Second innings: scoreboard pressure.

Without the cloud in that one session, the first test would have been a high-scoring draw for sure.

So if England were just lucky with Kallis, SA were lucky with the weather at the Oval.

Luck evens out in the end, which is why a 5-match series is better than a 3-match.
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Poor validation of your theory though. There's no control over the weather, however an umpire is expected to know the rules of the game - there should certainly be no luck involved in this aspect.
 
truthseer said:
Saffers back on track, rubbish bowling as usual by the Poms
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Too early I am afraid. TBH this innings is over for the saffers.

Only if they can somehow bat well in their second innings, I can see them saving this. Or else, England have managed here to hang on to their No. 1 rank.

Oh why SA, why? :facepalm:
 
Only caught a glimpse, but was that Alice Cooper at a cricket match? :D
 
Yeah. He was was interviewed by BBC radio at the lunch break... then they have Rahul Dravid being interviewed at tea, pretty similar characters!
 
Jo_Don said:
Poor validation of your theory though. There's no control over the weather, however an umpire is expected to know the rules of the game - there should certainly be no luck involved in this aspect.
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Do you think he has ever seen Saffers bowling in Indian pitches before crediting 'cloud cover' for those wkts. at Oval? don't think so.
It is typical of English fans, though I did not expect that statement from Robert.
 
Finn being rightfully punished by AB D here.

But too much damage has been done to SA here.
 
Lethalweapon said:
Do you think he has ever seen Saffers bowling in Indian pitches before crediting 'cloud cover' for those wkts. at Oval? don't think so.
It is typical of English fans, though I did not expect that statement from Robert.
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Agreed. Perhaps he was having an "off moment". Sad, normally really a wonderful poster! Anyways, if an umpire can have a howler surely 1 of the members are entitled to 1 now and again?
 
Namak_Halaal said:
Wrong.

DRS is not meant to reduce errors.

The purpose of DRS is to provide evidence which can assist Umpires in decision making.

The buck still stops at the Umpire and 3rd Umpire who interpret the evidence.
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Duh, of course the umpire makes the final call but the whole purpose of DRS is to help reduce human errors, not provide an opportunity to introduce more
 
England's genius tactic of not letting ABDV bat himself into any form at the Oval paying dividends
 
S.A Need to scrape up to 200 here and then somehow hope overcast conditions remain so that there bowlers can do some damage when they bowl.
 
Indiafan said:
Duh, of course the umpire makes the final call but the whole purpose of DRS is to help reduce human errors, not provide an opportunity to introduce more
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DRS doesn’t make the decision, the Umpires do.

DRS doesn’t interpret the data, the umpires do.

If more errors are introduced, then it’s because of the Umpires, not DRS.

The human error is always with the Umpire, not DRS.

If the Umpire cannot call it with DRS then the original decision stands.

This is as fair as it gets.
 
Saurav said:
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do watch that n post a summary here
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Sorry, got it wrong, Dravid at lunch Cooper at tea. Must be available on the internet via iplayer. Got drawn into Holding/Yohan Blake Jamaica love in at the tea interval on sky anyway.
 
At 151/5 S.A still in the mire. Pretty much both these batsmen will need to score 100s if S.A are to get up to 250 or even dream of 300.

If they get there they atleast then have something to bowl at!
 
Still not game over. England have a habit of making talentless people like Duminy look world class
 
Excellent bowling by England. Still long way to go. SA can still fight back.
 
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