What's new

England vs Sri Lanka | 2nd Test | Lords | 3-7 June 2011

Status
Not open for further replies.
if maharoof's bowling average and batting average are exchanged lanka could have had the next sobers.
 
Whippy said:
It's all mental. He doesn't have any batting woes and he never will. 227 in Adelaide and 51 in Melbourne were very recent and they were a pair of technical masterclasses. It's worth finding a video of that 51 - his bottom hand was amazingly rigid and his bat gun-barrel straight from the first ball. Some of the shots as a result were literally incredible. You have to be a world-class player to put the ball straight past the non-striker's stumps off a length ball. He could easily be the best player in the world again if he put his mind to it.
Click to expand...

why i say attitude is because certain batters who find they are getting out to a particular shot are able to cut it out completely & then there are some who go through it again & again thinking they will pull it off .... though i must say,i havent watched kp bat too much during ashes.
 
I thought he looked excellent in the Ashes and his run-haul (which was okay) did not reflect how excellent. NO technical problems, all about lack of effort which leads to lazy dismissals. As solid as Trott is and as pretty as Bell is, they will never be as good as KP.
 
Whippy said:
I thought he looked excellent in the Ashes and his run-haul (which was okay) did not reflect how excellent. NO technical problems, all about lack of effort which leads to lazy dismissals. As solid as Trott is and as pretty as Bell is, they will never be as good as KP.
Click to expand...

What you mean as good as KP? Trott's average is far higher but I know average is not everything
 
Trott's average will drop.

We can use stats for something more useful - to show that KP averages big against almost every acknowledged 'great' or 'very good' bowler that he has faced.

No other player in England past or present is capable of playing some of the innings that KP has produced in an England shirt. That's the reason why numerous experts picked KP in the England all-time XI.
 
Last edited:
Bell is the most stylish batter in English side. I rate him more than Michael Vaughan in this

ian-bell.jpg
 
Why are the Lankan slip fielders standing so deep. Tait, Akhtar or Lee aren't bowling here.

And wonder what Dilshan is thinking. Maharoof bowling ahead of Dilhara? Seriously?
 
Last edited:
Whippy said:
Trott's average will drop.

We can use stats for something more useful - to show that KP averages big against almost every acknowledged 'great' or 'very good' bowler that he has faced.

No other player in England past or present is capable of playing some of the innings that KP has produced in an England shirt. That's the reason why numerous experts picked KP in the England all-time XI.
Click to expand...

Hussey averaged over 80 two years after his test debut so won't be surprised if Trott's average goes higher before dropping :don
 
cricketindiafan said:
Why are the Lankan slip fielders standing so deep. Tait, Akhtar or Lee aren't bowling here.

And wonder what Dilshan is thinking. Maharoof bowling ahead of Dilhara? Seriously?
Click to expand...

Because Dilshan is still on that acid trip. If he woke up around 7 to get in the zone and dropped around 8, he'll be off his balls until close of play.
 
What is surprising is to see Sanga and Mahela completely aloof and not talking to Dilshan. Though I must say, its upto Dilshan to walk upto them and sk for tips.
 
Cook is soooooo good man. Would get more entertainment out of watching dry pasta slowly boil, but whaddaplaya. Odds on for a ton again I'd say.
 
Is this that Lakmal who was demolished into the stands at Lords in that T20 final? :afridi ?
 
cricketindiafan said:
What is surprising is to see Sanga and Mahela completely aloof and not talking to Dilshan. Though I must say, its upto Dilshan to walk upto them and sk for tips.
Click to expand...

Lots of chatter about dodgy business in Sri Lankan cricket at the moment and events keep on supporting the conspiracy theories, eg. the double World Cup final toss, Sangakarra's abdication, 80 all out, Dilshan's bizarre captaincy.
 
Giving 10 over long spell to your fast bowler? Agreed he;s bowled well, but 10 I think is too many in a single spell for a pacer.
 
Maybe Dilshan has simply forgotten about Fernando. I have witnessed this before and I swear it's an honest and legitimate if dreadful mistake. Flintoff and Ponting used to forget about bowlers sometimes.
 
Whippy who are your favorite batsmen and bowlers in England team? Other than KP and Swann
 
Whippy said:
Lots of chatter about dodgy business in Sri Lankan cricket at the moment and events keep on supporting the conspiracy theories, eg. the double World Cup final toss, Sangakarra's abdication, 80 all out, Dilshan's bizarre captaincy.
Click to expand...


I wouldn't give credence to those conspiracy theories. Always surface when a team doesn't do well.

Sanga and Mahela, I feel, are letting Dilshan be his own man, don't want to come across as overbearing. But as I said, its upto Dilshan and confer with them.
 
Whippy said:
Lots of chatter about dodgy business in Sri Lankan cricket at the moment and events keep on supporting the conspiracy theories, eg. the double World Cup final toss, Sangakarra's abdication, 80 all out, Dilshan's bizarre captaincy.
Click to expand...

yup ... lakmal bowled his 10th, roof is in for 4th -fernando now replaces roof.
 
Cook scores another 150 before close on Day 1. The train chugs on.
 
Fernando suddenly comes on. Dilshan obviously has his iPhone in his pocket and just checked the match thread on PakPassion. Bloody lurkers, we know you're out there.

I'm pretty indifferent to most of the England players.
 
Now I know why Thomson seems to be drunk all the time, Cause he actually is
 
Poison said:
Cook scores another 150 before close on Day 1. The train chugs on.
Click to expand...

He will soon be a lefty opener averaging 50 after a large sample of tests. There can't have been many of those. And people wonder why I rip Toffee strike rate of 9 Kumar.
 
Last edited:
Nasser mocking himself on 3rd man, absolutely brilliant :)))
 
But Taufeeq Umar is a better batsman, I don't think this is arguable Whippy.

:D
 
Whippy said:
chance for a very rare 'Bell plays well under pressure' event
Click to expand...
say what you want, Bell averages 65 last year, and 250 this year. Also performed both in South Africa as well as Australia.

He'll score big today. The form he's in at the moment is magical to say the least. For him anyway :D
 
Time for pietersen to move down to five, it's been long overdue
 
ads101 said:
say what you want, Bell averages 65 last year, and 250 this year. Also performed both in South Africa as well as Australia.

He'll score big today. The form he's in at the moment is magical to say the least. For him anyway :D
Click to expand...

he usually/always only gets a ton or a 70 when someone else gets a ton or a 70. He's never going to be the sort of player that gets 129 out of 235 and England win the test, like KP did in New Zealand.
 
ads101 said:
Time for pietersen to move down to five, it's been long overdue
Click to expand...

only argument against is if we lose 3-4 early then we just have KP, Morgan and Prior who are all flashy enough to fail in quick succession. Bell suits five because he is a quality all-round player.
 
Me thinks that after the joint failure of the two imports in the match, we will be seeing soon a new import being unveiled in the line up :(

Wonder if the English Bell will have to make way or the Irish Morgan :(

Me hopes Bell stays because we need more Engleesh innit to bat or soon all the domestic England players will be turning up to bat for the other side :(

Ala S Davies.
 
nish_mate said:
Me thinks that after the joint failure of the two imports in the match, we will be seeing soon a new import being unveiled in the line up :(

Wonder if the English Bell will have to make way or the Irish Morgan :(

Me hopes Bell stays because we need more Engleesh innit to bat or soon all the domestic England players will be turning up to bat for the other side :(

Ala S Davies.
Click to expand...

another superb and insightful post from you on the same old subject of England's imports. They should give you some kind of award for adding so much to the quality of the website.
 
Cook is very underrated player ....he keeps on performing ...good..:) ...one of my fav English player...:)
 
Whippy said:
another superb and insightful post from you on the same old subject of England's imports. They should give you some kind of award for adding so much to the quality of the website.
Click to expand...

Well someone has to carry the burden :(
 
Whippy said:
another superb and insightful post from you on the same old subject of England's imports. They should give you some kind of award for adding so much to the quality of the website.
Click to expand...

Some ppl are jealous because I don't think any team will mind having a couple of great players from another country if they could manage it
 
Over-rate is competing with England's usual efforts in terms of awfulness.
 
from cricinfo
Chris: "I think KP needs to be dropped down the order to get his confidence back. Whilst his average overall is 47, over the last two years it's 40 and the lowest of our top 6."
Click to expand...
 
Looking forward to watching Morgan bat as well, Seems like he has got his confidence back
 
KP needs to score in the next innings or test or he's gone!

James Taylor just needs one chance and it will be hard to get him out the team!
 
SAj55 said:
KP needs to score in the next innings or test or he's gone!
Click to expand...

This view is nothing more than a media construct which I hope is not being taken seriously by most.

He just scored 350 runs in 6 Ashes innings (average of 60)

He has since failed in 2 innings in English conditions which is hardly relegation form.

Unless the selectors are retarded he's nowhere near being dropped in test cricket.
 
Last edited:
Welcome to the Pakistani way of thinking Whip.
 
93/3 & looks like a decent batting track .What do you think wud be da outcome of this test ?
 
Why do the commentators keep talking about edging short or through slip as 'luck'? It's Dilshan's fault for setting senseless fields.
 
SameerP said:
Some ppl are jealous because I don't think any team will mind having a couple of great players from another country if they could manage it
Click to expand...

If the England supporters/commentators can keep on harping about the legitimacy of asian bowlers ala Murali, Bhajji, Ajmal, Akhtar, Malinga even after these bowlers are allowed to play according to ICC then surely England's imports are fair game too, even though its ICC rules.

So if you going to question other players actions and what not's surely you are game on for criticism of your own team's structure.

Now further one or two players is acceptable, but when nearly half the team is made of imports (can count 3 in here or 33%) then surely eyebrows will be raised.

Last but not the least IMHO England's success has been built on imports (not home grown talent born overseas) and hence when we are commending England's game, its fair game again to take a few pot shots.

You are free to ignore the comments if you so touchy sister!
 
nish_mate said:
If the England supporters/commentators can keep on harping about the legitimacy of asian bowlers ala Murali, Bhajji, Ajmal, Akhtar, Malinga even after these bowlers are allowed to play according to ICC then surely England's imports are fair game too, even though its ICC rules.

So if you going to question other players actions and what not's surely you are game on for criticism of your own team's structure.

Now further one or two players is acceptable, but when nearly half the team is made of imports (can count 3 in here or 33%) then surely eyebrows will be raised.

Last but not the least IMHO England's success has been built on imports (not home grown talent born overseas) and hence when we are commending England's game, its fair game again to take a few pot shots.

You are free to ignore the comments if you so touchy sister!
Click to expand...

I am not even English :yk
 
England's use of imports is a legitimate way of gaining an advantage because it involves strict laws and conditions and the possession of a UK passport.

Bowlers arguably chucking is arguably an illegitimate way of gaining an advantage that is arguably not strictly monitored enough.

Why go on about the former so much anyway? Seriously, nobody cares.
 
Alastair Cook batting not enjoyable? I don't think so, I like his batting
 
SameerP said:
Alastair Cook batting not enjoyable? I don't think so, I like his batting
Click to expand...

I like his batting too and it is perfect for international cricket, but would I pay to watch it? No
 
Whippy said:
England's use of imports is a legitimate way of gaining an advantage because it involves strict laws and conditions and the possession of a UK passport.


Bowlers arguably chucking is arguably an illegitimate way of gaining an advantage that is arguably not strictly monitored enough.

Why go on about the former so much anyway? Seriously, nobody cares.
Click to expand...

Why i go on so much, its harmless fun-if nobday cares then why do so many people take the bait?? :):)

Further it can be argued that it cannot be chucking as the bowlers have passed the strict and stringent ICC laws- so just because the Anglo Saxon bowlers cannot bowl as such-it can be termed as chucking :)

As for the UK passport, i would think it is even more loosely monitored than the ICC rules :)
 
The reason people keep getting annoyed and telling you that nobody cares is because nobody cares. Find something new and more interesting to post about.
 
Whippy said:
This view is nothing more than a media construct which I hope is not being taken seriously by most.

He just scored 350 runs in 6 Ashes innings (average of 60)

He has since failed in 2 innings in English conditions which is hardly relegation form.

Unless the selectors are retarded he's nowhere near being dropped in test cricket.
Click to expand...

Didnt most off those 350 runs come in one Inns?

For all talent he has hes certainly not fufilling it.
 
43, 227, 51, 36

how is that droppable form? We're not in Pakistan.
 
Whippy said:
The reason people keep getting annoyed and telling you that nobody cares is because nobody cares. Find something new and more interesting to post about.
Click to expand...

Touchy arent we about slightest critcisms of our team!

Englands success as a team is based on imports and for me it is a fairgame topic to harp on about ala Botham....

Dont react :)
 
So you would prefer nobody to react to your posts at all? That's probably the only way they'd become more pointless.

England is a much more multicultural and much less racist country than most and has had its fair share of top-class English-born players regardless, and when I say fair share I mean a lot.

Really is quite an arbitrary debate.
 
Whippy said:
The reason people keep getting annoyed and telling you that nobody cares is because nobody cares. Find something new and more interesting to post about.
Click to expand...

Whippy, as you once pointed out to me: obvious troll is obvious.
 
nish_mate said:
Further it can be argued that it cannot be chucking as the bowlers have passed the strict and stringent ICC laws- so just because the Anglo Saxon bowlers cannot bowl as such-it can be termed as chucking :)
Click to expand...

It could also be argued that Anglo-Saxons expose chuckers at school level and throw them out of cricket, while Murali wore a sling in the ICC labs so that he could stay at 14.99999999 degrees flexion, and then took the sling off in live matches so he could chuck the doosras with immunity from the umps.

:)
 
Last edited:
Whippy said:
So you would prefer nobody to react to your posts at all? That's probably the only way they'd become more pointless.

England is a much more multicultural and much less racist country than most and has had its fair share of top-class English-born players regardless, and when I say fair share I mean a lot.

Really is quite an arbitrary debate.
Click to expand...

Whippy, where have now i said that England aint multicultural/racist and hasnt had top class English born players and i havent even moaned about those born overseas but learned their trade in England ala Strauss/Prior or someother player.

i just think (IMO only) it is unfair advantage to get some1 to come play county and then 4 years on chuck them in to England team-as they have not been brought up the England set up.

We have seen what good the high number of foreign players in football have done.

Sure Premier League might be the most interesting but England football has suffered.

You look at the county league its half full of Kolpak players, even though am no fan of England but I think this flawed policy of importing can lead to long term decline of quality players in England.
 
Umps are too scared of reporting chuckers because they don't want to be tarred with the Darrell Hair brush.
 
Sad to see Cook milking ordinary bowlers. He was a major flop last year against :asif and :amir
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Similar threads

FearlessRoar
Pakistan Shaheens (306/7) defeat Sri Lanka A (198) convincingly by 108 runs to take a 1-0 lead in the 3-match series
Replies
23
Views
1K
BouncerGuy
BouncerGuy
BouncerGuy
Australia tour of Sri Lanka (2025)
Replies
2
Views
282
Nikhil_cric
N
FearlessRoar
  • Poll
Sri Lanka tour of England (2024)
3 4 5
Replies
396
Views
6K
sweep_shot
sweep_shot
FearlessRoar
Pakistan Shaheens (258 & 222/3) comfortably defeat Sri Lanka 'A' (115 & 364) by 7 wickets in 1st Four-Day match
Replies
74
Views
2K
BouncerGuy
BouncerGuy
BouncerGuy
India (213/7) defeat Sri Lanka (170/10) by 43 runs to go 1-0 up in the 3 match T20I series
2
Replies
140
Views
2K
CricketCartoons
CricketCartoons
Back
Top