EurAsia cup - Pakistan "A" v India "A"

[Hash]

Two 4s in a row for Bazid

 

[Raz]

2 runs!! Run out missed by India A!

40 from 9

 

[zMario]

We need 3 sixes now to make my plan work

 

[Hash]

We need 26.7 runs per over

Still possible

 

[cinderella]

almost got run out but missed by the fielder !
wow.
that was soo close cuz he was quite outside.

 

[Oxy]

Should have been run out by miles

 

[cinderella]

444444444444444444444444444
wowwwww

 

[Raz]

4 more

36 from 8!!!

 

[Hash]

Another 4

Bazid Bradman is on fire. Hitting out just when the team needs him to.

 

[zMario]

SHIIIT!

Dot ball. Now I think we've lost

 

[Raz]

Dot ball! Damn!!!!

 

[Oxy]

that was soo close cuz he was quite outside.

technical analysis!

 

[Hash]

235 for 9 after 49 overs

Bazid Bradman is not out 87

 

[Saqib]

Go Bazid Get A Century

 

[Raz]

Single 34 needed from 6 balls!! 5 sixes 1 four!!

 

[Officer Barbrady]

36 off the last over.
Can we do it?

 

[Oxy]

So thats six 6s reqd?

 

[cinderella]

need six 6's.

 

[Raz]

Sorry 35 needed!!

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

We got the Bonus Point - WOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Who cares if we win now

 

[zMario]

Dang!

 

[chuck]

india won

 

[Hash]

235 all out

Bazid out trying to hit a six for 87

 

[Swaraj!!]

Thats been done before

 

[Raz]

And caught going for a six, India A have won.

 

[cinderella]

or not.
never mind.

 

[Saqib]

OK WE LOST well done Bazid you are the only positive in this game !

 

[Oxy]

Thas Out.

Basid Sobers ...not quite..

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

technical analysis!

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[Swaraj!!]

Whew...what an ending .... good match....

 

[Saqib]

I think no problem we need to win from Sri Lanka and get into thefinal

 

[Officer Barbrady]

the boundry was too far back..

pcb should complain

 

[chuck]

bazid played well .. but others were pathetic. thanks to indians for giving so many extras else it wud have looked much worse.

 

[Raz]

the boundry was too far back..

pcb should complain

I say kick out Bob and Inzi!! Its their fault!! They eat too much!!

 

[Saqib]

I think these adds are the worst ever I ever seen im my long cricket career. Well other than Cherry Blosem Shoe Polish as your main sponser

 

[aggarwald]

I think no problem we need to win from Sri Lanka and get into thefinal

And then Pak will win as usual. On a side note, has Pak ever lost in a final (except for World series cup in 1986 and an Asia cup to SL a few years ago)

 

[Hash]

Well we lost the game but ultimately what really matters is the bonus point and it is absolutely fantastic that we got it.

 

[chuck]

Well we lost the game but ultimately what really matters is the bonus point and it is absolutely fantastic that we got it.

i think we need to thank Indians for giving so many extras else it wud hv been really tough.

 

[Saqib]

Well we lost the game but ultimately what really matters is the bonus point and it is absolutely fantastic that we got it.

Yeah true the indians are looking happy but we are still going to win the final

 

[chuck]

39 extras by Indians

 

[Saqib]

39 extras by Indians

coach >>>

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

i havnt really followed this tournament - so we are in the final now? and who are we playing?

 

[Hash]

i havnt really followed this tournament - so we are in the final now? and who are we playing?

no yaar

If we beat the Sri Lankans then we go to the final

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

no yaar

If we beat the Sri Lankans then we go to the final

Oh okay - who are our likely opponents?

 

[Hash]

Oh okay - who are our likely opponents?

India. Unless Sri Lanka beat them.

 

[Saqib]

Holland and than Sri Lanka

Holland 1 may

Sri Lanka 3 may

 

[Amir]

So what was the final score for both innings(Sorry I was at school and missed it)?

 

[Officer Barbrady]

india 269 in 50

gul 2/51, hafeez 2/53

Pakistan 235 ao 49.1

bazid 88 taufeeq 50something

 

[blahblah]

Not Good At All

What Will They Do Against Lanka

 

[Tupac]

congratz india a

hilarous isn't it? The board bashes Sachin for the bonus point, yet when the Pakistan International side, chooses who they want to play in the ATC Final, and GIVES away bonus points, nobody says anything. Or now, people are PRAISING Bazid for getting the bonus point...which is great, and that is what he should have done. Double standards? prolly

 

[Rickz]

Congrats to the Indian a team.

 

[Hash]

congratz india a

hilarous isn't it? The board bashes Sachin for the bonus point, yet when the Pakistan International side, chooses who they want to play in the ATC Final, and GIVES away bonus points, nobody says anything. Or now, people are PRAISING Bazid for getting the bonus point...which is great, and that is what he should have done. Double standards? prolly

) )

You need to get our more Tupac. Who exactly has praised Bazid? Could you not see that we were 'TAKING THE P*SS'?

 

[Tupac]

go and see it, obviously you were being sarcastic with your big post and the zindabad stuff, but cinderella, amir riaz, zmario....go check out the posts. Don't deny that by getting the bonus point, you've slavaged some pride.

Why is the bonus point thing still held against Sachin when the entire Pakistan team did it in 99?

 

[Swaraj!!]

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You need to get our more Tupac. Who exactly has praised Bazid? Could you not see that we were 'TAKING THE P*SS'?

Well he is right Tupac....originally it started out as sarcastic comments for Bazid and Bonus points but then people started taking it seriously and at the end everyone was celebrating the same

 

[Hash]

I don't think anyone seriously wanted the bonus point or could care either way. We lost the game.

 

[Officer Barbrady]

I don't mind the bonus point, it gives us a better chance of getting through.

But I didn't have a problem with Sachin chasing it down either(and ultimately getting India into the finals). Once victory is near impossible a player must look at any other possible way to help the team.

 

[Romali_rotti]

I don't mind the bonus point, it gives us a better chance of getting through.

But I didn't have a problem with Sachin chasing it down either(and ultimately getting India into the finals). Once victory is near impossible a player must look at any other possible way to help the team.

Marooned

Man I have to give it to you, you are like the most neutral & sensible guy after Miggy here ..

 

[HAFRIDI]

LMAO at u dudes! obviously it was sarcasm))))

 

[Farhad]

congratz india a

hilarous isn't it? The board bashes Sachin for the bonus point, yet when the Pakistan International side, chooses who they want to play in the ATC Final, and GIVES away bonus points, nobody says anything.

There is a clear difference. What was hilarious was that Sachin gave up the chase for victory so early in that bonus-point match - actually BEFORE the 30th over! Pak A team just did that in the last 10 or so overs after they had lost their skipper Hasan Raza.

 

[Fessal]

I didnt see this Pak A vs India A match and havent had a chance to go through the thread.
Apart from India obviously playing better and Pak not so good, anyone got any other explanation for the loss? I mean what does the Pak A team lack?

 

[Farhad]

Fessal

Batting under lights obviously was a major factor, which even the Indian highest-scorer also pointed out to during the mid-innings break to Arun Lal. VRV Singh bowled a tight line, created pressure as the ball was moving under lights, and took the vital wicket at the start.

But it's all part of the game and Indian A team played the better cricket and deserved their win.

 

[Hash]

Fantastic start by India A against UAE.

They are 4 for 1 after 3.5 overs

 

[Hash]

Now they are 25 for 3 after 10.2 overs

Could be in for an upset

 

[Farhad]

Couple of UAE batsmen are sheer class - especially Fawad who hit a century earlier in the tounament. They can chase anything under 200 in my opinion, but then again they will have to bat under lights.

 

[Tupac]

There is a clear difference. What was hilarious was that Sachin gave up the chase for victory so early in that bonus-point match - actually BEFORE the 30th over! Pak A team just did that in the last 10 or so overs after they had lost their skipper Hasan Raza.

did you know that we also lost 5 wickets before the 30th over? And what difference does it make Farhad, if it is before or after that a team or man decides to go for a bonus point. The act is still committed no?

What about Pakistan giving away bonus points rather shamelessly to an obviously out of form and injured Sri Lankan side so that they can play them in the final?

 

[blahblah]

Why don't Pak team take on the guy to be opener for Pak seems like he's good

 

[Daoud]

did you know that we also lost 5 wickets before the 30th over? And what difference does it make Farhad, if it is before or after that a team or man decides to go for a bonus point. The act is still committed no?

What about Pakistan giving away bonus points rather shamelessly to an obviously out of form and injured Sri Lankan side so that they can play them in the final?

Even Australia have done that. Its one thing to conceed a bonus point so that you face someone you think you have better odds of beating than it is to give up hope of a win and go for a bonus point. Not that achieving a bonus point is wrong cause India made the finals cause of it

 

[Farhad]

did you know that we also lost 5 wickets before the 30th over? And what difference does it make Farhad, if it is before or after that a team or man decides to go for a bonus point. The act is still committed no?

I do know the full facts. We, here, were all surprised and amused by Sachin's move. Malik earlier in the same match had plundered an astonishing 143 off 127 balls. It was a heavenly batting track with small outfield.

But you have perhaps forgotten that in the 29th over, the match was still wide open.........5 wickets down, India needing 150-odd off 21 overs with supposedly the best batsman in the team to be supported by quite able late-order batsmen like Pathan, Balaji, Harbhajan and Kumble,and the last man (ok the only bunny Nehra). And you are still saying Tendulkar was right in surrendering to Pak with 21 overs to go and approx. 7 an over to get?? Was he that diffident of forcing momentum against Shoaib, Sami, Shabbir etc. and so short in self-confidence that he never thought then of mounting a challenge and try to lead his team to win?

Can never imagine Viv, Ponting, Inzi, Javed or even Sehwag throwing in the towel at such a stage.

What about Pakistan giving away bonus points rather shamelessly to an obviously out of form and injured Sri Lankan side so that they can play them in the final?

What about it? It worked fabulously. We annihilated them in the Final and thus emerged victors of Asian Test Championship '99.

Again there is a stark difference. Our players did not surrender the match whilst giving the opposition a bonus point. It was a tactical ploy to prevent India from getting into the Final. We won that match, ALSO the one against you AND the Final in Dhaka. All covered with glory.

India, on the other hand, surrendered the match so early, and even the bonus point could not save them from further ignominy in the Final that they reached so shamelessly by playing negative cricket. It all ended in tears and frustration for them.

an obviously out of form and injured Sri Lankan side

Injured side? Never heard that term before! Injured because they had been thrashed by Pakistan in the earlier Test? How many players were injured? Name them. Only players missing was Murali and Suriya. Atapattu, De Silva, Jaywardene, Arnold, Tillekaratne, Kaluwitharna, Vaas, Chandana etc. are all big names of Lankan cricket and they all played in the Final.

To call a team "injured" is just about as farcical as is the claim that the whole team "was out of form"!


Click here for link to the Final scorecard

 

[ataullah]

Farhad, did u speak to Irshad about his lack of speed in Euro Asia? what was his explanation? He must have been carrying an injury.

 

[Farhad]

Farhad, did u speak to Irshad about his lack of speed in Euro Asia? what was his explanation? He must have been carrying an injury.

Haven't spoken to him yet. He called on the mobile yesterday but I missed the call. Will have a long chat with him coming Sunday when he returns. Let's see if he gets to play any more matches and what speed he does there. But I'll be more surprised than disappointed if he ain't a 90-miler at least. Aqib and Latif etc. are not armchair critics.

 

[blahblah]

what's the latest score guy's

 

[Farhad]

India A has staged a decent recovery. Karthik is on 68*.

128/3 off 29.3 overs.

 

[Farhad]

157/5 off 36.3 overs. New batsmen at the crease.

 

[amit]

ind a 196 all out

well done to the uae bowlers though

 

[Tupac]

I do know the full facts. We, here, were all surprised and amused by Sachin's move. Malik earlier in the same match had plundered an astonishing 143 off 127 balls. It was a heavenly batting track with small outfield.

take off the green glasses. The pitch slowed down considerably and started stopping on the batsmen (did you see Sachin top edging a long hop from malik?).

But you have perhaps forgotten that in the 29th over, the match was still wide open.........5 wickets down, India needing 150-odd off 21 overs with supposedly the best batsman in the team to be supported by quite able late-order batsmen like Pathan, Balaji, Harbhajan and Kumble,and the last man (ok the only bunny Nehra). And you are still saying Tendulkar was right in surrendering to Pak with 21 overs to go and approx. 7 an over to get??

That's hilarious. All of a sudden, Pathan, Balaji, Kumble, Bhajji are able-late order batsmen? This is Pathan before the Chappel Era, his average then was about 15, now it's 29.
Balaji averages 12.5 with the bat, Kumble 11, Bhajji 13.

You expect THESE men, to assist Tendulkar in a run chase on a slowing wicket at an RRR at above 7 an over? That's a joke. Sure Tendulkar could have gone for the win, it wasn't beyond him, but he chose to go for the bonus point to get India to the final.

If Pakistan's bonus point fiasco was a tactical maneouver, then why not Sachin's? The only difference is that Pakistan knew fully what it was doing. They took advantage of a loophole in the system and gave Sri Lanka instead of India a chance in the final. Tendulkar didn't know if India would make the final or not, and at the expense of whom. He did what was best for the team. Why did Pakistan gift away bonus points to Sri Lanka? Couldn't they have gone for the win, and then nailed India again in the final? Note that I'm not saying what Pakistan did was wrong.....it's just double standards when the Pakistan team and the PAK a team does it and no one blasts them for it. If India had won the final..then what? would it work "fabulously"? Or would you be a rather frustrated man and give an excuse for that too?

 

[Farhad]

take off the green glasses. The pitch slowed down considerably and started stopping on the batsmen (did you see Sachin top edging a long hop from malik?).

Don't exaggerate. The pitch was playing alright - not perfectly, but still 7 an over for 20-odd overs was never out of bounds. The odd ball may have stopped, but it does not mean the pitch had deteriorated that much.

You expect THESE men, to assist Tendulkar in a run chase on a slowing wicket at an RRR at above 7 an over? That's a joke. Sure Tendulkar could have gone for the win, it wasn't beyond him, but he chose to go for the bonus point to get India to the final.

Well, he thought it was beyond him - why else not go for it? THESE men you talk about...Pathan, Balaji and Kumble have featured in a number of useful ODI innings for India.

Pathan actually was always a capable late-order batsman as he showed in his very first year in Pak. Balaji is also known for hard hitting, and Kumble is not a bunny at all.

What was lacking was positivity. Present though was a loser attitude which Tendulkar's pusillanimous move encapsulated.

If Pakistan's bonus point fiasco was a tactical maneouver, then why not Sachin's?

Pak one - a Fiasco? Take off the blue glasses, dear. Fiasco equals failure. We WON the Final - India LOST. We also WON that bonus point match, India LOST theirs - Fiasco yes, but for your team unfortunately on both counts.

The only difference is that Pakistan knew fully what it was doing. They took advantage of a loophole in the system and gave Sri Lanka instead of India a chance in the final. Tendulkar didn't know if India would make the final or not, and at the expense of whom. He did what was best for the team.

What was best for the team? To lose that ODI and scrap for the bonus point? That's hilarious. That kind of attitude shows why India has such a terrible record outside Sub-continent.

Why did Pakistan gift away bonus points to Sri Lanka? Couldn't they have gone for the win, and then nailed India again in the final?

Ahem....we won that match! And obviously we considered SL to be easier opponents to play in the Final, although having beaten you already in Calcutta.

Note that I'm not saying what Pakistan did was wrong.....it's just double standards when the Pakistan team and the PAK a team does it and no one blasts them for it.

Well, Pak never chose the Bonus point over victory. We achieved victory regardless - that's the difference. Indians in middle of their innings CHOSE to lose the match and were happy with merely the bonus point.

If India had won the final..then what? would it work "fabulously"?

If Aunty had balls, she'd be Uncle. Anyhow, a team with surrenders before the 30th over would have really struggled to win the Final too. What happened in the Final was thus not entirely unexpected.

Going by the same what-if logic, what if Shoaib had not dropped a sitter at mid-off in the final overs and India would have not got that bonus point also apart from losing?

Or would you be a rather frustrated man and give an excuse for that too?

Do step into reality. What you are talking about did not happen, so live with it. Frustrated - that's what you and the other Indians were rather, given that your team lost BOTH against Pak and then also in the Final.

Pakistan won the Test Championship '99. No reason for any Pak to be frustrated at all.


Ifs and buts don't really count.

There is simply no parallel. One team gives the opponent a bonus point on their way to a crushing victory and WINS - the other gives up mid-innings and tamely LOSES whilst opting for the Bonus point rather. As much as you are at pains to draw a comparison, it is evident Indian strategy was negative and it did not pay off either. What was mocked in that Bonus-point match was not that India got the point but that it gave up so early and then the bonus point did not help them either in the final reckoning. Serves them right.

 

[Tupac]

don't you think farhad, it's also a negative ploy to choose your opponent in the final?

Also, for the Sachin thing, is it wiser to to go broke in order to win a match, or get the bonus point that gives you a shot at winning the cup? Sachin decided that it was better to get to the bonus point, and then maybe he would look for the win? How do you know the win wasn't in the back of his mind...maybe he would do what he did in that famous desert storm innings?

 

[Romali_rotti]

don't you think farhad, it's also a negative ploy to choose your opponent in the final?

Also, for the Sachin thing, is it wiser to to go broke in order to win a match, or get the bonus point that gives you a shot at winning the cup? Sachin decided that it was better to get to the bonus point, and then maybe he would look for the win? How do you know the win wasn't in the back of his mind...maybe he would do what he did in that famous desert storm innings?

Pac

If the Pakistanis were in our position, they would have done the same thing. The problem here is not bonus point or anything it is one man and the one and only that is affecting the lives of guys like Farhad, Monsee etc >>SRT... Like Miggy once said before it is time to move on from the innings he played in 03 WC against pak but unfortunately they cant AHHHH WELLLLLLLLL, I guess they gonna have to live it out lol....

 

[Oxy]

How come this game is still being discussed - did they chenge the result and give us a win or something

 

[Tupac]

Pac

If the Pakistanis were in our position, they would have done the same thing. The problem here is not bonus point or anything it is one man and the one and only that is affecting the lives of guys like Farhad, Monsee etc >>SRT... Like Miggy once said before it is time to move on from the innings he played in 03 WC against pak but unfortunately they cant AHHHH WELLLLLLLLL, I guess they gonna have to live it out lol....

lol romali...so true yaar. I think that if a Pakistan game was on, and there was like a live stream to Sachin's operated shoulder or something, they'd prefer to watch the operation! The height of obsession!