Ex-Indian army chief praises Pakistan's incoming chief Gen Bajwa

[Syed1]

Former Indian Army chief General Bikram Singh has said Pakistan's incoming Chief of Army Staff Lt Gen Qamar Javed Bajwa is a "professional".

"In the UN operations, Gen Bajwa's performance was totally professional and outstanding," Gen Singh was quoted as saying by Times of India as he described the time when Gen Bajwa had served under him on a United Nations assignment in Congo.

He added, "A military officer's conduct in the international environment is different from the way he conducts himself back home. There, he is governed by his country's national interests," he was quoted.

General Bikram Singh was the 25th Chief of Army Staff of the Indian Army and held the post until July 31, 2014. He was also the Chairman of the Chiefs of Staff Committee of the Indian armed forces.

Another Indian army official, who was not identified in the story, was quoted saying, "Gen Bajwa is well-versed with the complexities, nature of operations and terrain along the LoC. He has also handled Kashmir extensively during his career."

A day earlier, Lt Gen Qamar Javed Bajwa, a career infantry officer belonging to the Baloch Regiment, was chosen as Pakistan's next Chief of Army Staff. He will be promoted to the rank of a four-star general and will take up his new post from Tuesday, the day the current army chief Raheel Sharif retires.

http://www.dawn.com/news/1298964/ex-indian-army-chief-praises-pakistans-incoming-chief-gen-bajwa

 

[Syed1]

Baju bhai has fans across the fence as well

 

[troodon]

Baju bhai has fans across the fence as well

They might be friends.

 

[WebGuru]

Baju bhai has fans across the fence as well

They might be friends.

Pakistan's new COAS Qamar Javed Bajwa served under ex Indian COAS Bikram Singh on a UN assignment in Congo.

 

[big_gamer007]

Let's hope situation improves under this term for the 1.6bill sub continenters..

 

[Syed1]

They might be friends.

Most uniformed servicemen have great deal of respect for each other. It is the politics and 'national interests' that messes things up.

 

[WebGuru]

Most uniformed servicemen have great deal of respect for each other. It is the politics and 'national interests' that messes things up.

True there are many great stories that shows us the respect uniformed servicemen from both side of the border give to each other while the politicians survive on hate.

 

[Syed1]

True there are many great stories that shows us the respect uniformed servicemen from both side of the border give to each other while the politicians survive on hate.

http://www.indiatimes.com/news/here-is-the-story-of-kaiser-tufail-a-paf-officer-who-saved-the-captured-indian-pilot-from-torture-261159.html

 

[WebGuru]

http://www.indiatimes.com/news/here-is-the-story-of-kaiser-tufail-a-paf-officer-who-saved-the-captured-indian-pilot-from-torture-261159.html

That was a great story i read it a couple of months ago.

There are never any victors in war, both sides lose and it is the families that have to pay the price and suffer the most. As someone once said ' Wars are created by politicians, compounded by bureaucrats and fought by soldiers.

 

[PakLFC]

Of course he will be respected by India for his professionalism and achievements. I feel Gen Bajwa's experience in Kashmir was the deciding factor in him being elected. Otherwise, other candidates were just as good if not better then him.

 

[Saeed]

What's the big deal? As long as he cares about Pakistan its fine. From rumors it sounds like he does care about Pakistan. He considers terrorism to be a bigger threat than India, which is true to some extent. I just hope he uses the right approach when it comes to dealing with terrorism.

 

[PakLFC]

What's the big deal? As long as he cares about Pakistan its fine. From rumors it sounds like he does care about Pakistan. He considers terrorism to be a bigger threat than India, which is true to some extent. I just hope he uses the right approach when it comes to dealing with terrorism.

India is the one sponsoring terrorism in Pakistan. Kulbashan Yadav, Ajot Doval admitting supporting terrorism in Pakistan as well as many other Indian agents caught red handed is enough evidence. Bajwa has to deal with India very hard to end the remaining terrorist activity in Pakistan. No doubt, Raheel has greatly made Pakistan safer with Zarb-e-Azb operation that the new chief must now finish. The new chief should support the Kashmiri freedom struggle openly as he has great experience of that region.

 

[Indiafan]

India is the one sponsoring terrorism in Pakistan. Kulbashan Yadav, Ajot Doval admitting supporting terrorism in Pakistan as well as many other Indian agents caught red handed is enough evidence. Bajwa has to deal with India very hard to end the remaining terrorist activity in Pakistan. No doubt, Raheel has greatly made Pakistan safer with Zarb-e-Azb operation that the new chief must now finish. The new chief should support the Kashmiri freedom struggle openly as he has great experience of that region.

So all the claims of Pakistan Taliban etc after every attack is false?

The new chief should support the Kashmiri freedom struggle openly as he has great experience of that region. -

I think this single quote shows your absolute hypocrisy and double standards. You want to end terrorism in your own country while continuing to sponsor terrorism in part of another country? I think such people are called "dogle" in hindi. Saying something in front, something else on the back.

You are not serious about ending terror at all, you still believe in good terrorists and bad terrorists. Terrorism is never ever going to end in your country with this mentality. You do realize many of the current terrorists in Pakistan are off shoots of the Afghan Taliban and Kashmir terrorists who branched out and got angry at Pakistan? Terrorism is terrorism. You claim India pays them. Well thats easy right, because they were already terrorists paid by Pak and now accepting money from India and double crossing Pakistan. If you make friends with snakes, they are going to bite you back one day

 

[PakLFC]

So all the claims of Pakistan Taliban etc after every attack is false?



I think this single quote shows your absolute hypocrisy and double standards. You want to end terrorism in your own country while continuing to sponsor terrorism in part of another country? I think such people are called "dogle" in hindi. Saying something in front, something else on the back.

You are not serious about ending terror at all, you still believe in good terrorists and bad terrorists. Terrorism is never ever going to end in your country with this mentality. You do realize many of the current terrorists in Pakistan are off shoots of the Afghan Taliban and Kashmir terrorists who branched out and got angry at Pakistan? Terrorism is terrorism. You claim India pays them. Well thats easy right, because they were already terrorists paid by Pak and now accepting money from India and double crossing Pakistan. If you make friends with snakes, they are going to bite you back one day

Supporting Kashmir that is an unfinished agenda is not terrorism at all. Pakistan Taliban is also sponsored by outside sources as well including India. Terrorism in Pak has greatly reduced after Raheel took strong action against RAW activity in Pakistan, the bomb blasts may occur now and again but there has been at least 70% reduction. Terrorism and seeking independence are two separate things, we don't want to get involved in all your other insurgencies if you stop meddling in FATA and Balochistan however as I say Kashmir is a special case fully recognised by the UN. Yes, there are many mislead Pakistanis as well in cahoots with the enemy, I am sure you will called the Khalistanis like Harminder Singh exactly that as well. No these Pak terrorists were not "already terrorists", this is historically a recent phenomena born after USA invasion of Afghanistan that India has benefited from by placing it's agents there to cause trouble for Pakistan . Need I remind you that after 9/11 Bharat offered it's basis to attack Pakistan even wen we were supposedly at peace with you because you are the ones who are back stabbers. That's why we call you "baghal mein choori gali mein....." We will pay you back with the same coin.

 

[Indiafan]

Supporting Kashmir that is an unfinished agenda is not terrorism at all. Pakistan Taliban is also sponsored by outside sources as well including India. Terrorism in Pak has greatly reduced after Raheel took strong action against RAW activity in Pakistan, the bomb blasts may occur now and again but there has been at least 70% reduction. Terrorism and seeking independence are two separate things, we don't want to get involved in all your other insurgencies if you stop meddling in FATA and Balochistan however as I say Kashmir is a special case fully recognised by the UN. Yes, there are many mislead Pakistanis as well in cahoots with the enemy, I am sure you will called the Khalistanis like Harminder Singh exactly that as well. No these Pak terrorists were not "already terrorists", this is historically a recent phenomena born after USA invasion of Afghanistan that India has benefited from by placing it's agents there to cause trouble for Pakistan . Need I remind you that after 9/11 Bharat offered it's basis to attack Pakistan even wen we were supposedly at peace with you because you are the ones who are back stabbers. That's why we call you "baghal mein choori gali mein....." We will pay you back with the same coin.

So you want to take the integral part of another country by force and thats not terrorism at all?

Instead of having peaceful talks about Kashmir there are terrorists running riot

70% reduction in terrorism has happened due to a lot of reasons including less US activity in Afghanistan.

You can keep dreaming about Kashmir. But you are doing a dis-service to your own country. Instead of spending time, money and resource to develop your own country, you are worried about some Kashmir. Never gonna happen

And you really believe that for 65 years if you try to snatch part of another country they will keep quiet and do nothing in self-defense?

 

[PakLFC]

So you want to take the integral part of another country by force and thats not terrorism at all?

Instead of having peaceful talks about Kashmir there are terrorists running riot

70% reduction in terrorism has happened due to a lot of reasons including less US activity in Afghanistan.

You can keep dreaming about Kashmir. But you are doing a dis-service to your own country. Instead of spending time, money and resource to develop your own country, you are worried about some Kashmir. Never gonna happen

And you really believe that for 65 years if you try to snatch part of another country they will keep quiet and do nothing in self-defense?

We don't see Kashmir as being your "integral part" at all, that is the whole point! It is disputed land according to the UN as well where as the likes of Balochistan and Nagaland for that matter are not. You don't worry about us spending money on our people when you are doing that in zillions in IoK with 6 million soldiers terrorising the people who want no part of you. Achieving Pakistan was also a dream said your elders that we got, didn't we?? If you do something in "self defence" then so will we, you're dealing with Pakistan here not Palestine who can only hit back with rock's!! If you meddle in settled Pakistan's settled area's that has nothing to do with you then we can do the same by supporting all insurgencies in India like the Khalistan movement etc. Now, if you say India is not involved in Balochistan then take a look at your attempts at sarcasm. You are admitting your involvement in Balochistan so don't cry when we do the same.

 

[PakLFC]

The reduction in terrorism has partly got to do with USA as well, I'll give you that. Raheel has also taken a firmer action against Indian involvement as well. We can and do support the Afghan Taliban to take action against Bharatis in Afghanistan. You have no business there at all. Spend money on your 400 million people on the street's and building toilets instead of oppressing the poor Kashmiris who hate India with venom!

 

[cricketjoshila]

So you want to take the integral part of another country by force and thats not terrorism at all?

Instead of having peaceful talks about Kashmir there are terrorists running riot

70% reduction in terrorism has happened due to a lot of reasons including less US activity in Afghanistan.

You can keep dreaming about Kashmir. But you are doing a dis-service to your own country. Instead of spending time, money and resource to develop your own country, you are worried about some Kashmir. Never gonna happen

And you really believe that for 65 years if you try to snatch part of another country they will keep quiet and do nothing in self-defense?

Hear that video before you decide.

This video is from 2012 when Chuck Hagel wasnt US secretary of defence.

Also he says that "India has been sponsoring trouble in on that side of Border(meaning Afghanistan).Ofcourse India has supported anti Pakistan Northern alliance and now the anti Pakistan govt in Kabul,while Pakistan supports Taliban.

There is nothing illegal in supporting a UN recognised regime.

This video is posted by Pakistanis as they have little else to support their claims of India sponsoring terrorism in Pakistan.

You will be laughing if you read what they submitted to UN in the name of a dossier of evidence againist India.

Ofcourse they wont get even an inch of Kashmir from India,its all a mechanism for the Pak Army to hog a large part of the budget.

 

[Indiafan]

We don't see Kashmir as being your "integral part" at all, that is the whole point! It is disputed land according to the UN as well where as the likes of Balochistan and Nagaland for that matter are not. You don't worry about us spending money on our people when you are doing that in zillions in IoK with 6 million soldiers terrorising the people who want no part of you. Achieving Pakistan was also a dream said your elders that we got, didn't we?? If you do something in "self defence" then so will we, you're dealing with Pakistan here not Palestine who can only hit back with rock's!! If you meddle in settled Pakistan's settled area's that has nothing to do with you then we can do the same by supporting all insurgencies in India like the Khalistan movement etc. Now, if you say India is not involved in Balochistan then take a look at your attempts at sarcasm. You are admitting your involvement in Balochistan so don't cry when we do the same.

I didn't admit anything at all. All I am saying was, if for 65 years a country tries to take a part of us, will they or will they not defend themselves? Common sense

 

[PakLFC]

I didn't admit anything at all. All I am saying was, if for 65 years a country tries to take a part of us, will they or will they not defend themselves? Common sense

I am not talking about you but your country making that Balochistan advert hence admitting their interference in our internal affairs. Well, every country will defend itself from external aggression , you are not the only ones. Like it or not Kashmir is a dispute between two countries recognised by the UN as well. Now, it took India hundred's of years to free itself from the Mughals followed by the British. Kashmir will be free soon, insha Allah. It is so very obvious.

 

[Hail-Akram]

Now, it took India hundred's of years to free itself from the Mughals followed by the British. Kashmir will be free soon, insha Allah. It is so very obvious.

This is epic. Do you even know that the failed freedom struggle of India in 1857 was about trying to reinstate Mughals in Delhi, not about getting rid of them !!
India is very proud of its rich heritage including or rather "especially" the Mughal era !

 

[PakLFC]

This is epic. Do you even know that the failed freedom struggle of India in 1857 was about trying to reinstate Mughals in Delhi, not about getting rid of them !!
India is very proud of its rich heritage including or rather "especially" the Mughal era !

Of course I know about the Mangal Pandey thing when the Mughal's supported the then freedom movement This is not to suggest that you were happy with Mughal rule before or after that period. There is nothing "epic" about it. I am always right! There were different periods during the entire Mughal period. Go and read some history.

 

[Hail-Akram]

Of course I know about the Mangal Pandey thing when the Mughal's supported the then freedom movement This is not to suggest that you were happy with Mughal rule before or after that period.

I didn't exist in those times, so not sure what the 'you' stands for. If it refers to 'Indians' then lets call it 'we' since Pakistan and India were united in that era.

There is nothing "epic" about it. I am always right!

Of course you are ... Sir! Then you must have heard and read about Bahadur Shah Zafar and how highly he is respected even in current era India.
Before British rule, India was divided among smaller kingdoms and these kings fought against each other as well as against Mughals. Only after British ruled the entire country were they able to come together. By the way some of them still stayed loyal to Brits, but that's a different story.

 

[PakLFC]

I didn't exist in those times, so not sure what the 'you' stands for. If it refers to 'Indians' then lets call it 'we' since Pakistan and India were united in that era.


Of course you are ... Sir! Then you must have heard and read about Bahadur Shah Zafar and how highly he is respected even in current era India.
Before British rule, India was divided among smaller kingdoms and these kings fought against each other as well as against Mughals. Only after British ruled the entire country were they able to come together. By the way some of them still stayed loyal to Brits, but that's a different story.

"You" here refers to non-Muslim's assuming you are that. What I am telling you is that each government and empire bends to suit it's own agenda. The Mughal's did the same whenever they were in power, they were no angels neither were they complete demons.

I know many Mughal's are respected in India like Akber for his tolerance, after all he married a Hindu lady and attempted to start a new religion as well, bad idea! On the other hands Sikh's rightfully loathe the ones who oppressed them even killing their Guru's.

I am aware that India was divided in to many little parts prior to the invasions. Even your "Mahabharat" series shows it like that, it is the BJP type Hindu fundo's you need to tell this to that would dispel the "akhand bharat" syndrome:ahmed

 

[Hail-Akram]

"You" here refers to non-Muslim's assuming you are that. What I am telling you is that each government and empire bends to suit it's own agenda. The Mughal's did the same whenever they were in power, they were no angels neither were they complete demons.

I know many Mughal's are respected in India like Akber for his tolerance, after all he married a Hindu lady and attempted to start a new religion as well, bad idea! On the other hands Sikh's rightfully loathe the ones who oppressed them even killing their Guru's.

I am aware that India was divided in to many little parts prior to the invasions. Even your "Mahabharat" series shows it like that, it is the BJP type Hindu fundo's you need to tell this to that would dispel the "akhand bharat" syndrome:ahmed

Yes, I am not a Muslim; but that should hardly matter as religion is a very personal aspect for me.

Saying that all non-Hindus loath Mughals is as brilliant as saying all Muslims support Osama bin laden and Muslims move around with explosives wrapped around them all eager to meet the 70 virgins.

"Mahabharat" is mythology and not history ... at least not taught in the history books in India.

Your assessment about Mughal kings is correct though. Some like Bahadur Shah Zafar, and Akbar are regarded as good while some like Aurangzeb were brutal.
But you should also know that the Hindu king of Mysore is loathed by Indians and Muslim ruler who overthrew him - Hyder Ali and his son Tipu Sultan are highly regarded for fighting British. So its the character of a person, not the religion that people admire.

 

[PakLFC]

Yes, I am not a Muslim; but that should hardly matter as religion is a very personal aspect for me.

Saying that all non-Hindus loath Mughals is as brilliant as saying all Muslims support Osama bin laden and Muslims move around with explosives wrapped around them all eager to meet the 70 virgins.

"Mahabharat" is mythology and not history ... at least not taught in the history books in India.

Your assessment about Mughal kings is correct though. Some like Bahadur Shah Zafar, and Akbar are regarded as good while some like Aurangzeb were brutal.
But you should also know that the Hindu king of Mysore is loathed by Indians and Muslim ruler who overthrew him - Hyder Ali and his son Tipu Sultan are highly regarded for fighting British. So its the character of a person, not the religion that people admire.

Again you are getting carried away for no reason at all. Where have I said "all" Hindu's despise the Moghuls? It depends on their make up and upbringing. The secular type love Akbet and other Moghul's as well. You see if you're an Indian then know that to the BJP type fascists India was one since the beginning of time, they would disagree with the part in "Mahabharat" where India is shown as a small island. What "70 virgins"????....there is nothing in the Qur'an that talks of this. Sure you're a Muslim?? Equally, Muslim people do not hate Hindu's as a whole at all as often portrayed. The word "kaffir" simply means denier in the Islamic perspective, it is not meant to dehumanise anyone at all, according to Christian doctrine I am in infidel, I am happy to be one.

Hindu's loathe their own leaders even today just like Muslim's do. Many I know despise Modi for what he is, there is no need to go back centuries for reference.

 

[PakLFC]

[MENTION=8845]Hail-Akram[/MENTION]

I misread your first mail thinking you were Muslim. Just to tell you that there is nothing in the Qur'an that talks of 70 virgin's in paradise. Do your own research instead of blindly believing what others say. Whatever you faith it can also be misquoted as well, remember that. No one is going to insult Islam whilst I am on this website, understood?

 

[Hail-Akram]

Yup, maybe I got your statements in the wrong way ... in a written forum difficult to get the tone of fellow posters

Being a non-muslim I have no rights to comment on Koran and the "70 virgins" comment was not in that reference. I wanted to highlight propaganda by people who are clueless about the real teachings of a religion.

Just wanted to highlight that the propaganda around Indians hating Moghuls for their religion is wrong (with some exceptions). The rulers are hated/respected based on how they treated people.