Faheem Ashraf vs Mohammad Wasim Jr.: Who should Pakistan prefer?

[Firebolt007]

I feel that Muhammad Wasim should be selected in place of Fahim Ashraf as he is a much better bowler and has also shown some promise with the bat in domestic cricket as shown below:

Muhammad Wasim ListA batting record: 30 Mtchs, 19.38 Avg, 116.66 SR
Fahim Ashraf ListA batting record: 77 Mtchs, 14.86 Avg, 83.20 SR

Our bowling attack will become even better with Shaheen Afridi, Naseem Shah, Haris Rauf and Muhammad Wasim all capable of bowling at 140+ kph.

What do you guys think?

 

[Bewal Express]

To threaten the Inds, Wasim will be the better bowling option with his extra pace. But the team is unbalanced with Faheem and will be further unbalanced with Wasim.

 

[Farah Sohail]

Definitely Wasim Jnr.. wasim Jnr is a much better bowler, as compared to Faheem Ashraf.. today Fahim bowler well, but lets keep this in mind..theres hell lot of difference between Indian batsmen and Bangladeshi batsmen.. Indians will know, who to target in Pakistans bowling attack..they will smash Faheem…

Also, I dont think matches in Srilanks will be high scoring…so you wouldnt need batting till low down the order..so Pakistan must select Fahim

but I know Pak team management . I can bet they will go with the same team as todays… iF they wanted Wasim for Indias match..they would have surely selected Wasim today… pak team management has made up their mind for Fahim as fourth seamer, hence selected him today…but it can cost Pakistan in Indias game

 

[shamaan]

Wasim Jnr is twice the bowler fahim Is but fahim Is slightly better than Wasim in batting.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

In the previous match against Afghanistan, Mohammad Wasim failed to take any wickets, and we are aware of his batting limitations.

Consequently, I believe Faheem bowled impressively today and considering his batting ability we should opt for him against india.

 

[shamaan]

Wasim Jnr can also bowl in the death.

 

[szrana]

Junior is the right option, but they will go with Faheem unfortunately.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Shouldn’t even be a debate, Wasim is a proper bowling all rounder. Faheem was meant to be a batting all rounder, he has a solid defence and only one attacking shot which is a flick towards fine leg.

One can bowl 140 the other bowls at 130.

One can bowl at the death, the other can’t.

 

[Firebat]

Neither are that good. Wasim better at bowling, Faheem better at batting. I'd rather prioritise the former, so I'll go Wasim.

 

[moghul]

Wasim is far better bowler and fielder. Picking Faheem for his pseudo batting capability is a negative approach.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Wasim is far better bowler and fielder. Picking Faheem for his pseudo batting capability is a negative approach.

Faheem is also proficient in fielding, but one aspect where he falls short is maintaining consistent performance. However, upon his return to ODI cricket, his bowling has notably improved.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Pak should consider Ihsanullah as the 4th seamer for WC. Opposition will have no where to hide or no weakness to target.

 

[mominsaigol]

Yesterday the commentators said zaman Khan or ihsanullah would be better then faheem as a 4th pacer.

If ihsanullah improves his line and length then he complements the trio extremely well.

Zaman Khan list a stats are poor, but he's one heck of a death bowler

 

[Farabi]

Neither. Muhammad Amir would have been the perfect choice. Can bat a bit too

 

[GLORY OF '92]

Faheem is clutch. Wasim is a choker just remember his innings v Zimbabwe and bowling v England in the T20 WC.

Faheem will win us a match soon with his batting or bowling.

 

[Rana]

Can someone please explain,

How is Wasim JR an all-rounder? He’s a good 140kmh bowler but how is the guy termed a batsman as well?

 

[BouncerGuy]

Faheem has an ODI batting average of 11 with a strike rate of 83.96 while Wasim Junior has an average of 9.5 with a strike rate of 96.61.
when it comes to bowling, Fahim has 33 matches and 26 wickets with an average of 43.46 while Wasim Junior has 15 matches and 24 wickets with an average of 25.55.
It is upto you now how you see the things.

 

[PakPremi]

Wasim J as he will score same runs Faheem will and he is thrice the bowler Faheem is.
Faheem has a better batting ability but somehow he cannot make any use of it, few innings being an exception.

 

[Fenrir]

Pakistan did not find any replacement after Razzaq retired.This could be due to negligence by PCB or may be there aren’t any fast bowling allrounders in Pakistan.Wasim is a better bowler than Faheem.He should try to improve his batting by practicing in the nets.The batting coach should help him

 

[BouncerGuy]

Pakistan did not find any replacement after Razzaq retired.This could be due to negligence by PCB or may be there aren’t any fast bowling allrounders in Pakistan.Wasim is a better bowler than Faheem.He should try to improve his batting by practicing in the nets.The batting coach should help him

Looking at the current scenario, Pakistan has been playing Wasim for a year or more now and Fahim was not in the side for a good 2 years. So as far as I see things, Wasim is a better choice as he can bowl lovely Yorkers at the death and has pace as well.

 

[ads101]

I think you go with Faheem. I'm not even a fan and I think he has been given far too many matches in the past. But he has match practice now and bowled alright last game. Wasim isn't really an allrounder. Faheem is at least at domestic/PSL level. He did well with the bat in the recent PSL. Having someone at the other end who can bat a bit will help Shadab, who also seems a little weak for the no.7 spot (though he has been doing relatively well with the bat there of late). There's just in general a lack of lower order hitting down the order right now in our batting line up.

It's frustrating because it feels like the millionth time that we are banking on Faheem finally becoming good with the bat. But I think Wasim sadly doesn't even really have ability with the bat, particularly low order hitting.

 

[saqib.rai]

Wasim is not an all-rounder. For number 8, it has to be either Nawaz/Faheem

 

[TeymurBlake]

If I had to choose between the two, I would say Faheem. He is more "reliable" with the bat than Wasim Jnr, who I don't really class as a AR or a bowling AR. He can swing his bat to the boundary but still needs work to be classed as a AR.

The problem is, one is better with the batter and the other is better in bowling. The other problem is, Haris Rauf, Shaheen Afridi nor Naseem Shah are reliable with the bat like Wahab, Anwar Ali, Yasir, M.Amir or Hasan Ali nor improved & versatile such as Imad Wasim.

Despite the fact Shaheen & Naseem can hit a six or two, there are not like Pat Cummins, Starc, Rabada, Ashwin, Santner etc. They are not as ready made No.8-9 bowlers who can bat and push on when the batters are out.

 

[sweep_shot]

I think Wasim is a better bowler. He should be picked ahead of Faheem.

 

[Farah Sohail]

If I had to choose between the two, I would say Faheem. He is more "reliable" with the bat than Wasim Jnr, who I don't really class as a AR or a bowling AR. He can swing his bat to the boundary but still needs work to be classed as a AR.

The problem is, one is better with the batter and the other is better in bowling. The other problem is, Haris Rauf, Shaheen Afridi nor Naseem Shah are reliable with the bat like Wahab, Anwar Ali, Yasir, M.Amir or Hasan Ali nor improved & versatile such as Imad Wasim.

Despite the fact Shaheen & Naseem can hit a six or two, there are not like Pat Cummins, Starc, Rabada, Ashwin, Santner etc. They are not as ready made No.8-9 bowlers who can bat and push on when the batters are out.

I think Naseem Shah is most reliable batter amongst our pacers.. infact, more than Wasim Jnr, I would still classify Naseem Shah who has the potential to become an allrounder, not because of his two sixes against Afghanistan or his hitting ability, but because, he has time and again shown he has the temperament and can defend also.. He has done twice in test matches, once with babar, and other with Saud Shakeel..both on spinning tracks.. Also if we remeber furst ODI against Afghanistan recently, it was Naseem Shah along with Shadab, who made crucial runs at the end by playing solid, not slogging.

 

[Farabi]

Yup Naseem has potential as a batter.

People are forgetting Faheem’s contributions in test cricket. He’s played some meaningful innings in test cricket that Jr can not even dream off.

 

[owenhcricket]

I feel that Muhammad Wasim should be selected in place of Fahim Ashraf as he is a much better bowler and has also shown some promise with the bat in domestic cricket as shown below:

Muhammad Wasim ListA batting record: 30 Mtchs, 19.38 Avg, 116.66 SR
Fahim Ashraf ListA batting record: 77 Mtchs, 14.86 Avg, 83.20 SR

Our bowling attack will become even better with Shaheen Afridi, Naseem Shah, Haris Rauf and Muhammad Wasim all capable of bowling at 140+ kph.

What do you guys think?

Theoretically could play both and drop Salman, thus moving Faheem up the order. Shadab and Ifty as the spinners.

 

[TeymurBlake]

I think Naseem Shah is most reliable batter amongst our pacers.. infact, more than Wasim Jnr, I would still classify Naseem Shah who has the potential to become an allrounder, not because of his two sixes against Afghanistan or his hitting ability, but because, he has time and again shown he has the temperament and can defend also.. He has done twice in test matches, once with babar, and other with Saud Shakeel..both on spinning tracks.. Also if we remeber furst ODI against Afghanistan recently, it was Naseem Shah along with Shadab, who made crucial runs at the end by playing solid, not slogging.

I personally don't see it.... yet with Naseem. Yes he can defend and hit a few sixes but he like Shaheen & Haris need to improve the batting more so over the years. The reason the debate is being had over Faheem & Wasim Jnr is because both are classed as AR, which isn't the case really because neither has shown enough with the bat to qualify as ARs.

But with the tail that Pakistan has, Faheem has to go at No.8 as he has some level of "batting". Pakistan can't start the tail at No.8, it has to be No.9.

 

[Farah Sohail]

I personally don't see it.... yet with Naseem. Yes he can defend and hit a few sixes but he like Shaheen & Haris need to improve the batting more so over the years. The reason the debate is being had over Faheem & Wasim Jnr is because both are classed as AR, which isn't the case really because neither has shown enough with the bat to qualify as ARs.

But with the tail that Pakistan has, Faheem has to go at No.8 as he has some level of "batting". Pakistan can't start the tail at No.8, it has to be No.9.

I meant tht Naseem has most potential with batting, as far as our pacers are concerned, and maybe in future, he can turn into an allrounder, if he improves his batting

Currently, yes, Wasim Jnr was classified as allrounder initially, which clearly hes not..but I would still prefer him over Fahim as fourth seamer because hes much better bowler

Another option, I would say is Amir Jamal.. hes a good bowler and also i think he has the batting to be a decent number 8 atleast.. In most matches, you dont even need tour number 8th batsman but I think Amir Jamal can be a decent option at 8.. but unfortunately, I guess its too late now.. hes not on selector’s radar

 

[shamaan]

Faheem is clutch. Wasim is a choker just remember his innings v Zimbabwe and bowling v England in the T20 WC.

Faheem will win us a match soon with his batting or bowling.

Wasim had 2 bad games how many bad games has fahim had.

 

[Arsalan Pro]

Faheem Ashraf has cemented his place for now against India, hope he delivers with the bat in crunch situations in future like he has done multiple times for Islamabad United.

His bowling although lacks penetration is very miserly and complements all other attacking options from the other end perfectly.

With a middle order of Agha Salman and Iftikhar Ahmed, we can't afford 4 bowlers who can't be depended with the bat.

Mohammed Wasim should play only if they play Saud Shakeel in that middle order for Agha Salman.

 

[Third Man]

Yesterday the commentators said zaman Khan or ihsanullah would be better then faheem as a 4th pacer.

If ihsanullah improves his line and length then he complements the trio extremely well.

Zaman Khan list a stats are poor, but he's one heck of a death bowler

What we need is a middle over wicket taker. Naseem and Rauf are very good death bowlers. Our problem is that Faheem/Nawaz aren't good enough as attacking options in the middle overs. With that in mind, Ihsanullah is the solution.

 

[Third Man]

Faheem Ashraf has cemented his place for now against India, hope he delivers with the bat in crunch situations in future like he has done multiple times for Islamabad United.

His bowling although lacks penetration is very miserly and complements all other attacking options from the other end perfectly.

With a middle order of Agha Salman and Iftikhar Ahmed, we can't afford 4 bowlers who can't be depended with the bat.

Mohammed Wasim should play only if they play Saud Shakeel in that middle order for Agha Salman.

That is true. I'd love it if they go with an attacking option as a 4th bowler but the presence of Agha and Iftikhar in the middle order makes it difficult. We'd definitely need a solid batter like Saud if we go with 4 proper fast bowlers.

 

[Saj]

Bowling wise Ihsanullah and Zaman are better options, but the think tank obviously prefer Faheem or Wasim jr due to their batting ability.

 

[Asad T]

Faheem did bowl well against Bangladesh, so based on that, he will be given a few more matches. I just wish he was promoted to bat ahead of Salman against Bangladesh as to test him

My 2 cents is that Wasim Jr is more handy with the older ball and Faheem is better when the ball is newer. Wasim get's natural inswing to the higher hander at pace and so I feel he would be more threatening in the middle overs vs Faheem.

 

[Farah Sohail]

Bowling wise Ihsanullah and Zaman are better options, but the think tank obviously prefer Faheem or Wasim jr due to their batting ability.

Think tank is preferring Faheem over Wasim due to his batting but Pak’s main problem during middle overs is lack of wickets.. we need a wicket taking option in middle overs, which FAheem isnt.. Wasim is a good wicket taking option in middle overs.. As for batting..you dont even need batting till 8th in every game, but you need wickets in middle overs in every game..but unfortunately Fahim is preferred..
another option would have been Amir Jamal, as his batting is better than Wasim Jnr but still a very good bowler..but they should have selected Amir Jamal for Asia cup.. dont know how they selected Fahim, out of the blue.

 

[gazza619]

I agree M Waseem is a better option. I would also drop Shadab for M Haris.

1. Imam
2. Fakhar
3. Babar
4. Rizwan
5. Salman
6. Iftikhar
7. M Haris
8. Waseem
9. Shaheen
10. Naseem
11. Rauf

 

[Cricket Warrior]

I agree M Waseem is a better option. I would also drop Shadab for M Haris.

1. Imam
2. Fakhar
3. Babar
4. Rizwan
5. Salman
6. Iftikhar
7. M Haris
8. Waseem
9. Shaheen
10. Naseem
11. Rauf

where is the 5th bowler? you cant rely on part timmers in the middle overs.

If you want to bring harris so replace him with Fakhar.

 

[gazza619]

where is the 5th bowler? you cant rely on part timmers in the middle overs.

If you want to bring harris so replace him with Fakhar.

Shadab is also a part time bowler and an overrated batter. Ifti & Salman are more than capable to cover for the 5th bowler.

 

[Shah]

Ashraf has a plus in that he is a left handed batsman. Pakistan has always had too many right handed batsmen compared to most other teams.

 

[moghul]

Ashraf has a plus in that he is a left handed batsman. Pakistan has always had too many right handed batsmen compared to most other teams.

Since when he became a batsman , how many 50s has he scored in 33 ODI's so far ? Zero.

 

[coooolali]

Neither. Amir Jamal has higher ceiling compared to these two. I am surprised he is not in the squad considering Babar and Jamal play for the same franchise in psl.

 

[IMMY69]

Neither. Amir Jamal has higher ceiling compared to these two. I am surprised he is not in the squad considering Babar and Jamal play for the same franchise in psl.

Spot on
Amir Jamal is more talented than both with bat and ball.

This works cuo may have come too early for him but the management needs to invest in him and make sure he plays majority of the games after this World Cup.

Alternatively, just go with him now. Even as inexperienced as he is I doubt he will do worse than the other two.

 

[Farah Sohail]

No matter who we think should be selected..its clear tht Fahim Ashraf will be selected in playing 11 against India

 

[IAJ]

No matter who we think should be selected..its clear tht Fahim Ashraf will be selected in playing 11 against India

That’s what I think as well. They played Fahim against BD and he did his job and will be picked against India. No way team management is bold enough to pick Wasim.

 

[Farah Sohail]

That’s what I think as well. They played Fahim against BD and he did his job and will be picked against India. No way team management is bold enough to pick Wasim.

True..
Team management should think of the difference in quality between both teams though, and also in world cup on Indian pitches, you would need some pace from fast bowlers rather than 127-130kph thunder bolts from Faheem

But what to do, of defensive mindset from team management, tht we need bit more batting depth, when in 7/10 matches, atleast, you wouldnt need batting till 8th….but in every match, you need wickets in middle overs, otherwise match can slip away from you, despite good start..like in India match…

i can bet..that we will play the same team against India.. no way Faheem is going out for Wasim

Sad thing is that…even Mickey and Grant seem to have defensive mindset like babar too..to play safe rather than be bold and proactive with their selection

 

[Nikhil_cric]

A guy with an average of 11 and strike rate of 80 odd with the bat is an all-rounder?

Pointless selection.

 

[CricVet]

I would play both as opposed to spin - they have better chance against Indian spin bashers.

 

[Fenrir]

I would play both as opposed to spin - they have better chance against Indian spin bashers.

The wicket may have a lot of turn so you need a spinner.Unfortunately Pakistan doesn’t any top class spinners that is why Shadab and Nawaz get selected.PCB needs to identify good spinners and fast bowling allrounders.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

The wicket may have a lot of turn so you need a spinner.Unfortunately Pakistan doesn’t any top class spinners that is why Shadab and Nawaz get selected.PCB needs to identify good spinners and fast bowling allrounders.

In colombo fast bowlers will get help due to moisture in the pitch. so i think its the right move to go with 4 seamers.

 

[Bewal Express]

Neither can bat for toffee in ODI cricket with Faheem slightly better. Wasim is a better bowler but his action is slingy and inconsistent and can wilt under pressure. Faheem is more consistent but unthreatening to decent bats that have a bit of self respect.

 

[CricVet]

I would rather those 2 fast bowling alrounders get wickets instead of worry about batting. If spinners end up giving 120+ runs in their 20 overs and achieve nothing, their runs with their bats would not mean much.

 

[CricVet]

The wicket may have a lot of turn so you need a spinner.Unfortunately Pakistan doesn’t any top class spinners that is why Shadab and Nawaz get selected.PCB needs to identify good spinners and fast bowling allrounders.

Well, in SL while it has been raining, our fast bowlers have a better chance vs spinners who won't be able to grip the wet ball (in all probability). It will be raining and the condition would be good for fast bowling.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Well, in SL while it has been raining, our fast bowlers have a better chance vs spinners who won't be able to grip the wet ball (in all probability). It will be raining and the condition would be good for fast bowling.

Right now conditions are so good for swimming only in Premadasa Stadium. Thanks to Jay Shah!

 

[MenInG]

One again Pak have gone for Faheem

By the looks of it, he could have the ticket for the World Cup as well

 

[Farah Sohail]

It seems, Pak have finally made their mind on Fahim Ashraf, as the fast bowling allrounder, for world cup as well…which could be a very costly decision, because on Indian pitches, you would need some pace, Faheem Ashraf’s 120 kph thunderbolts arent the answer..
Should have considered Amir Jamal for world cup as fast bowling all rounder

 

[Asad T]

After his decent performance last game, Faheem was never going to be dropped against India. Conditions (if there is a game) will be overcast and so a 4th pacer option is good.
Yes, India will look to target him but because he does keep his line and length tidy, he may actually be effective in picking up wickets

 

[hermit]

One again Pak have gone for Faheem

By the looks of it, he could have the ticket for the World Cup as well

I think this is a bit unfair. He was consistently over 130, and may be is around 129 or so for his low end speeds.

 

[hitthestump]

Clearly the management are seeing something in Faheem that is giving him the edge over his competition.

There are 4 bowlers going for 1 spot - Usama Mir, Nawaz, Mohammad Wasim and Faheem Stokes.

He will have limited time to prove he is the best option amongst that lot.

 

[CricVet]

Right now conditions are so good for swimming only in Premadasa Stadium. Thanks to Jay Shah!

True… however, a short contest cannot be ruled out tomorrow after the full game today/yesterday.

 

[CricVet]

It seems, Pak have finally made their mind on Fahim Ashraf, as the fast bowling allrounder, for world cup as well…which could be a very costly decision, because on Indian pitches, you would need some pace, Faheem Ashraf’s 120 kph thunderbolts arent the answer..
Should have considered Amir Jamal for world cup as fast bowling all rounder

I have never seen Faheem bowling around 120. He is usually around 135 and mix the pace well. If he was that bad, he would not have a good economy except in Eng.

 

[Marooned]

Clearly the management are seeing something in Faheem that is giving him the edge over his competition.

There are 4 bowlers going for 1 spot - Usama Mir, Nawaz, Mohammad Wasim and Faheem Stokes.

He will have limited time to prove he is the best option amongst that lot.

Rana Faheem never has limited time . No matter how much he fails he keeps coming back.

 

[Marooned]

I have never seen Faheem bowling around 120. He is usually around 135 and mix the pace well. If he was that bad, he would not have a good economy except in Eng.
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Not sure if serious. Are you actually bragging about these economy rates? These are rather poor. Have a look at the averages too. That's why he is faheem sobers. Tendulkar with ball. McGrath with bat

 

[Concerned]

Faheem Ashraf is a defensive option, I don’t see his bowling taking top order wickets

 

[CricVet]

Not sure if serious. Are you actually bragging about these economy rates? These are rather poor. Have a look at the averages too. That's why he is faheem sobers. Tendulkar with ball. McGrath with bat

What world are you living in. If an alrounder is giving you an economy of 5.5, I will take it hands downs in todays world of batting wickets. Do bother to check what spinners have done with economy, and the less we talk about their wicket taking ability, the better. What has Nawaz done? Show the stats, then build the case.

 

[emranabbas]

There is no need to waste your time digging out stats everyone and their dog knows faheem isn't a wicket taking bowler and has a poor bowling average. Fahim is there for his line and length in the middle overs to dry up runs because our spinners are pretty rubbish and get tonked like no tomorrow.

 

[Energy]

Faheem is a better choice than Wasim Jr. for all formats. Faheem is a good support bowler for sticky wickets and if he can find his batting form again, it ten-folds the balance of the side. Need to back him.

 

[MenInG]

Faheem is a better choice than Wasim Jr. for all formats. Faheem is a good support bowler for sticky wickets and if he can find his batting form again, it ten-folds the balance of the side. Need to back him.

Faheem needs some wickets under his belt and needs them soon.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Faheem is a better choice than Wasim Jr. for all formats. Faheem is a good support bowler for sticky wickets and if he can find his batting form again, it ten-folds the balance of the side. Need to back him.

My primary worry revolves around Shadab Khan at the moment.

His four overs conceded nearly 40 runs and this significantly shifted the game's momentum in the India's favor.

 

[IAJ]

My primary worry revolves around Shadab Khan at the moment.

His four overs conceded nearly 40 runs and this significantly shifted the game's momentum in the India's favor oh i meant Bharat's favor, na na Hindustan's Favor.. Oh God! whatever they call themselves.

4 Overs for 40 runs. A genuine good spinner would have given away those runs in 10 overs on this wicket

 

[Asad T]

Yes, he bowled poorly today, but generally, I feel he is decent and is just going through a bad patch.

In his last 4 overs, he only conceded 13 runs and took a wicket. Hopefully, he can reign it in from here

 

[pakistani pride]

Yes, he bowled poorly today, but generally, I feel he is decent and is just going through a bad patch.

In his last 4 overs, he only conceded 13 runs and took a wicket. Hopefully, he can reign it in from here

He has been rubbish for a while. His record is also bad. He plays like only T20 circus games all year. PCB is also at fault allowing them to play so many leauges. Shadad needs to be dropped asap.

 

[Asad T]

He has been rubbish for a while. His record is also bad. He plays like only T20 circus games all year. PCB is also at fault allowing them to play so many leauges. Shadad needs to be dropped asap.

What is bad about playing in so leagues? Doesn't it give players more exposure? I agree that they should not overdo it and get injured, but surely the exposure and match practice is good during the offseason.

Look at Zaman, for instance, he's playing in England and will play in Australia this winter as well. These experiences will be vital for his development if he is to be groomed into a frontline international player. It's better for him to play in T20 leagues than to be rested on the bench.

 

[pakistani pride]

What is bad about playing in so leagues? Doesn't it give players more exposure? I agree that they should not overdo it and get injured, but surely the exposure and match practice is good during the offseason.

Look at Zaman, for instance, he's playing in England and will play in Australia this winter as well. These experiences will be vital for his development if he is to be groomed into a frontline international player. It's better for him to play in T20 leagues than to be rested on the bench.

Shadab is playing in like every single leauge. Zaman is not a regular for Pak. Shadab is, shadab regressed badly. When was the last time he played a 4 day game?

 

[moghul]

Faheem is a better choice than Wasim Jr. for all formats. Faheem is a good support bowler for sticky wickets and if he can find his batting form again, it ten-folds the balance of the side. Need to back him.

In 33 ODIs his higher score is 28, worst than a tailender.

 

[Farabi]

What is bad about playing in so leagues? Doesn't it give players more exposure? I agree that they should not overdo it and get injured, but surely the exposure and match practice is good during the offseason.

Look at Zaman, for instance, he's playing in England and will play in Australia this winter as well. These experiences will be vital for his development if he is to be groomed into a frontline international player. It's better for him to play in T20 leagues than to be rested on the bench.

You do well what you practice. T20 bowling is different from ODI bowling. He needs to get some miles in FC and Test cricket.

 

[Farabi]

Shadab is playing in like every single leauge. Zaman is not a regular for Pak. Shadab is, shadab regressed badly. When was the last time he played a 4 day game?

Yup. They should increase his batting order if he’s playing as a batting allrounder and test him for that role in ODIs. Sink or swim.

 

[Finisher]

Faheem would be the greatest ever all rounder if we swapped his numbers around
Bowling Average 46
Batting average 10

 

[moghul]

Is that a misprint or its true , as per Cricinfo, in 34 ODIs Faheem, the "all rounder"'s higher score is 28 . If true , why is he preffered over a better bowler just because of his "batting abilities", which is non-existing.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

well Faheem is not able to prove himself, he has now get several chances but still he hasn't grabbed any of them, so i think against SL match they should go for Muhammad Wasim or Usama Mir.