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FIFA suspends All India Football Federation due to ‘third party influence’

street cricketer said:
The USA is currently ranked 20 in the FIFA rankings and has made plenty of world cup appearances. Their players like Pulisic and Dest play for the elite European clubs.

The south asian nations would give an arm and leg to have a similar record now.
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Yeah but that has nothing to do with world class talent coming to America, it's cause of the grass roots system that's existed for decades in America but more importantly cause of immigration we have ethnic communities that are crazy about football - Pulisic for example is the son of Balkan immigrants and we have a lot of latino and african players. China and the Gulf Arab countries are probably investing even more money but I don't ever see them becoming top teams.
 
Giannis said:
Yeah but that has nothing to do with world class talent coming to America, it's cause of the grass roots system that's existed for decades in America but more importantly cause of immigration we have ethnic communities that are crazy about football - Pulisic for example is the son of Balkan immigrants and we have a lot of latino and african players. China and the Gulf Arab countries are probably investing even more money but I don't ever see them becoming top teams.
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Agreed with a small interjection.
I would also consider world class talent as a reason for their improved showing. So much talent comes to America (though mostly they do it at the fag end of their career like Beckham and Villa in MLS) but still they help in developing the game and also bring fame.
 
OMB said:
Agreed with a small interjection.
I would also consider world class talent as a reason for their improved showing. So much talent comes to America (though mostly they do it at the fag end of their career like Beckham and Villa in MLS) but still they help in developing the game and also bring fame.
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I don't think they develop the game, the generation that played with Beckham retired all he was able to do was increase the profile of football in the country and draw attention to the MLS
 
Giannis said:
Yeah but that has nothing to do with world class talent coming to America, it's cause of the grass roots system that's existed for decades in America but more importantly cause of immigration we have ethnic communities that are crazy about football - Pulisic for example is the son of Balkan immigrants and we have a lot of latino and african players. China and the Gulf Arab countries are probably investing even more money but I don't ever see them becoming top teams.
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China doesn't have a history of team sports in general. They traditionally played individual sports and games and team sports like football, basketball and baseball are relatively new entrees into their sporting psyche, although football has become very popular nowadays. Their traditional sports/games are individual games like ping pong, badminton, chess, snooker, etc.

Their football turned professional in 1990s, it's hardly comparable to European leagues which became professional in the late 1800s and early 1900s. It's why I keep saying football culture is something that takes decades to develop.
 
street cricketer said:
China doesn't have a history of team sports in general. They traditionally played individual sports and games and team sports like football, basketball and baseball are relatively new entrees into their sporting psyche, although football has become very popular nowadays. Their traditional sports/games are individual games like ping pong, badminton, chess, snooker, etc.

Their football turned professional in 1990s, it's hardly comparable to European leagues which became professional in the late 1800s and early 1900s. It's why I keep saying football culture is something that takes decades to develop.
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well neither do south asian countries so to think india will be better than china just by pouring billions of dollars into football is delusional
 
Giannis said:
well neither do south asian countries so to think india will be better than china just by pouring billions of dollars into football is delusional
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Pouring Billions of dollars has certainly helped India to improve it's performance in Football. A team that was languishing at the bottom of the Rankings for most of its history is not going to qualify for the WC all of a sudden.

Establishing a Premier League, inviting various players and coaches from Europe and South America , having the local youngsters play against them and gaining knowledge has certainly helped the Indian Football , and that wouldn't have been possible without Billion of Dollars.

Two years ago , India secured a draw against China in an away friendly.

https://indianexpress.com/article/s...s-fume-as-china-draws-0-0-with-india-5403197/

Also, secured a draw against Asian Champions Qatar during the World Cup qualifiers.

https://sportstar.thehindu.com/foot...ue-stimac-indian-football/article29384716.ece

If this is not improvement , then what is improvement ? That Imran Khan model of Cornered Tigers playing with Josh, Jazba and Daleri is not applicable in modern era. Sports requires a lot of investment. India today is playing in Asian Cup Football, meanwhile Bankrupt Pakistan with no money to pour into Football can't even defeat the likes of Sri Lanka, Bangaldesh and Cambodia. Even a War-torn Afghanistan has a much larger presence in World Football than Pakistan.
 
liam26 said:
Pouring Billions of dollars has certainly helped India to improve it's performance in Football. A team that was languishing at the bottom of the Rankings for most of its history is not going to qualify for the WC all of a sudden.

Establishing a Premier League, inviting various players and coaches from Europe and South America , having the local youngsters play against them and gaining knowledge has certainly helped the Indian Football , and that wouldn't have been possible without Billion of Dollars.

Two years ago , India secured a draw against China in an away friendly.

https://indianexpress.com/article/s...s-fume-as-china-draws-0-0-with-india-5403197/

Also, secured a draw against Asian Champions Qatar during the World Cup qualifiers.

https://sportstar.thehindu.com/foot...ue-stimac-indian-football/article29384716.ece

If this is not improvement , then what is improvement ? That Imran Khan model of Cornered Tigers playing with Josh, Jazba and Daleri is not applicable in modern era. Sports requires a lot of investment. India today is playing in Asian Cup Football, meanwhile Bankrupt Pakistan with no money to pour into Football can't even defeat the likes of Sri Lanka, Bangaldesh and Cambodia. Even a War-torn Afghanistan has a much larger presence in World Football than Pakistan.
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lol someones got their feelings hurt :)) . Yeah India are where they were 10 years ago, they've had the odd win or draw against a top team but that isn't a lot of progress, they will eventually qualify for the world cup only because FIFA is expanding the tournament to 48 teams. It doesn't matter where Pakistan stands, this thread is about Indian football and its failure to be a successful team in Asia let alone the world.
 
It is inevitable that football will rise in China and India. I know this post might look like a bit of a joke right now, but the centre of the footballing world will shift from Europe to Asia, more precisely to China in the next 2-3 decades. It would not be surprising to see top footballers moving to top clubs in China and India near their peak in the future and not just in their retiring period. I'm saying all this not because China and India have some hidden talent that's going to rule the world in the future. This is just the law of the economics and time.

If someone had said that the centre of cricket would shift from Britain to India in the 70s and that white ex cricketers would be donning Indian ethnic clothes while doing commentary in India to rake in the dollars, it would have been laughed off as a super funny joke. That was a time when a tour to India was seen as a punishment and white cricketers used to toss coins on to the streets from their balconies and dump water on the poor people who used to come and get those coins. Now the same western cricketers are queuing up for a place in the IPL and get a share of the moolah. The same thing will happen in football too in a few decades even if this might look improbable right now.

It's not a question of talent, but a question of money. Corporates always follow where the money is and money is always the highest where the market is the biggest. Currently the market for football is little in India unlike cricket, which is why you don't see it as apparent right now. Even still, you had La Liga scheduling El Clasicos in the afternoon instead of the traditional night fixture just to get the timing right for the Indian market. Money will always follow where the market is and right now, it's in Europe where you make the most money out of football. But this will gradually shift to Asia in the future and you're already seeing signs of that happening with many top clubs playing pre season games in China.

The demography of each country can be divided into the following groups - very low income, low income, middle income and high income. Right now, the high income group is probably less than 2% of the Indian population and most of the population falls under low income group. As the economy keeps bulging, more people would move from low income to middle and then to high income and as that's happening, the country will keep realising its demographic potential as people move across the economic ladder. In countries like the UAE, Qatar, etc., they're already high income countries and so they have reached a saturation point of how much they can use their demographic potential. But China and India have a lot more room to grow and reach that demographic potential and it would not be surprising if Chinese clubs become one of the elite clubs like Barcelona, Madrid and PSG and their national team becomes one of the top teams. Don't be surprised if you see FIFA World cup fixtures happening in India within the next two decades. There will come a time when cricket in India will face severe competition from Indian football and it might turn into an existential crisis for Indian cricket if the BCCI is content being the king of a small jungle and doesn't let cricket become a global game.

Mark this post. I don't know if Pakpassion might exist in the 2040s or I might exist then. But I hope so and if online forums are still a thing then, quote my post and if none of these things happen, I'll happily eat my humble biriyani.
 
street cricketer said:
It is inevitable that football will rise in China and India. I know this post might look like a bit of a joke right now, but the centre of the footballing world will shift from Europe to Asia, more precisely to China in the next 2-3 decades. It would not be surprising to see top footballers moving to top clubs in China and India near their peak in the future and not just in their retiring period. I'm saying all this not because China and India have some hidden talent that's going to rule the world in the future. This is just the law of the economics and time.

If someone had said that the centre of cricket would shift from Britain to India in the 70s and that white ex cricketers would be donning Indian ethnic clothes while doing commentary in India to rake in the dollars, it would have been laughed off as a super funny joke. That was a time when a tour to India was seen as a punishment and white cricketers used to toss coins on to the streets from their balconies and dump water on the poor people who used to come and get those coins. Now the same western cricketers are queuing up for a place in the IPL and get a share of the moolah. The same thing will happen in football too in a few decades even if this might look improbable right now.

It's not a question of talent, but a question of money. Corporates always follow where the money is and money is always the highest where the market is the biggest. Currently the market for football is little in India unlike cricket, which is why you don't see it as apparent right now. Even still, you had La Liga scheduling El Clasicos in the afternoon instead of the traditional night fixture just to get the timing right for the Indian market. Money will always follow where the market is and right now, it's in Europe where you make the most money out of football. But this will gradually shift to Asia in the future and you're already seeing signs of that happening with many top clubs playing pre season games in China.

The demography of each country can be divided into the following groups - very low income, low income, middle income and high income. Right now, the high income group is probably less than 2% of the Indian population and most of the population falls under low income group. As the economy keeps bulging, more people would move from low income to middle and then to high income and as that's happening, the country will keep realising its demographic potential as people move across the economic ladder. In countries like the UAE, Qatar, etc., they're already high income countries and so they have reached a saturation point of how much they can use their demographic potential. But China and India have a lot more room to grow and reach that demographic potential and it would not be surprising if Chinese clubs become one of the elite clubs like Barcelona, Madrid and PSG and their national team becomes one of the top teams. Don't be surprised if you see FIFA World cup fixtures happening in India within the next two decades. There will come a time when cricket in India will face severe competition from Indian football and it might turn into an existential crisis for Indian cricket if the BCCI is content being the king of a small jungle and doesn't let cricket become a global game.

Mark this post. I don't know if Pakpassion might exist in the 2040s or I might exist then. But I hope so and if online forums are still a thing then, quote my post and if none of these things happen, I'll happily eat my humble biriyani.
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It wont happen in the next 2-3 decades because for that to happen the local talent has to flourish and be competitive, that is way too short a time frame and there is long way for that to happen in China. India doesnt belong in this discussion ATM.

If economic strength and population were just going to be enough, Japan with their soccer crazy fans should have been atleast among the biggest soccer nations out there. They are nowhere near.

CSL saw all the hype but the clubs are struggling right now with the govt asking the owners to bail out, China is no closer to Japan, Iran or Korea over the last decade in terms of talent and thats why the best players wont stick around. Their junior leagues are getting better but that will take them somewhat competitive at an Asian level over the next couple of decades.

Football revenue is ultimately decided by TV deals and the most competitive leagues get the best deals. Its not about the spending power of the population, because the European leagues will still gather more revenue from China and India then their local leagues ever will because of their relative strength just like they do in Japan or Korea right now. Plus there is always the chances of the European Super League coming back. The mega rich European clubs will never let the control go out of their hands. Only things Asia gives them is shirt sales, silly money from pre season friendlies and lots of tv revenue from crazy fans
 
Gharib Aadmi said:
It is about both skill and interest. South Asian countries are only good in sports that very few countries play. Look at hockey, the day more countries, especially the European ones, started playing they got exposed and are now a joke.

If cricket ever became globally popular the same will happen there. And football is arguably the second most popular sport in India and Pakistan, so the interest is there. They are just not good enough.
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India was ranked in Top 4 last time I checked, we are are the current Junior WC champions .
 
street cricketer said:
It is inevitable that football will rise in China and India. I know this post might look like a bit of a joke right now, but the centre of the footballing world will shift from Europe to Asia, more precisely to China in the next 2-3 decades. It would not be surprising to see top footballers moving to top clubs in China and India near their peak in the future and not just in their retiring period. I'm saying all this not because China and India have some hidden talent that's going to rule the world in the future. This is just the law of the economics and time.

If someone had said that the centre of cricket would shift from Britain to India in the 70s and that white ex cricketers would be donning Indian ethnic clothes while doing commentary in India to rake in the dollars, it would have been laughed off as a super funny joke. That was a time when a tour to India was seen as a punishment and white cricketers used to toss coins on to the streets from their balconies and dump water on the poor people who used to come and get those coins. Now the same western cricketers are queuing up for a place in the IPL and get a share of the moolah. The same thing will happen in football too in a few decades even if this might look improbable right now.

It's not a question of talent, but a question of money. Corporates always follow where the money is and money is always the highest where the market is the biggest. Currently the market for football is little in India unlike cricket, which is why you don't see it as apparent right now. Even still, you had La Liga scheduling El Clasicos in the afternoon instead of the traditional night fixture just to get the timing right for the Indian market. Money will always follow where the market is and right now, it's in Europe where you make the most money out of football. But this will gradually shift to Asia in the future and you're already seeing signs of that happening with many top clubs playing pre season games in China.

The demography of each country can be divided into the following groups - very low income, low income, middle income and high income. Right now, the high income group is probably less than 2% of the Indian population and most of the population falls under low income group. As the economy keeps bulging, more people would move from low income to middle and then to high income and as that's happening, the country will keep realising its demographic potential as people move across the economic ladder. In countries like the UAE, Qatar, etc., they're already high income countries and so they have reached a saturation point of how much they can use their demographic potential. But China and India have a lot more room to grow and reach that demographic potential and it would not be surprising if Chinese clubs become one of the elite clubs like Barcelona, Madrid and PSG and their national team becomes one of the top teams. Don't be surprised if you see FIFA World cup fixtures happening in India within the next two decades. There will come a time when cricket in India will face severe competition from Indian football and it might turn into an existential crisis for Indian cricket if the BCCI is content being the king of a small jungle and doesn't let cricket become a global game.

Mark this post. I don't know if Pakpassion might exist in the 2040s or I might exist then. But I hope so and if online forums are still a thing then, quote my post and if none of these things happen, I'll happily eat my humble biriyani.
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In cricket their was no real global league until IPL. So its very different from football, as you have over 100 years of history in Europe. And because of that history the best players from all over the world will play in their leagues. And since those leagues have the best players, they will get the most viewers, which leads to more money.

Also the big clubs are global, so much of their revenue comes from Asia, so as India and China rise, they will just get richer.

I think they just have too much of a head start.
 
Gharib Aadmi said:
Good for India, I guess they have improved.
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India and Pakistan made mockery of Europeans in hockey. Then the Europeans changed the rules. Since India and Pakistan depended on dribbling skills to outwit the opposition, they changed the surface from grass to Astro turf.

This made dribbling more difficult and the game now depended on pace and strength and less on skills.

The way Europeans hijacked hockey by changing the rules was very similar to colonial tactics.
 
Shubho Paul, 17, Selected In Bayern Munich's "World Squad"

Shubho Paul, 17-year-old striker who plays for Sudeva FC, was selected in Bayern Munich's "World squad".


Shubho Paul, a 17-year-old Indian striker, has been picked by German powerhouse Bayern Munich for their world under-19 squad. The teenager, who hails from West Bengal's Howrah district, will now take part in Bayern's training programme. Paul was picked by Bayern via a talent hunt programme launched by the club to select 15 footballers from across the world to form their 'World Squad'. The talent hunt was led by Bayern legend and World Cup winner Klaus Augenthaler and their coach of international programmes Christopher Loch.

According to the guidelines on Bayern's website, to participate in the talent hunt programme, a player should be born between 2003 and 2004. The participants were also asked to send their short videos.

Now, Paul will travel to Germany, where he will train for two weeks in July. The 'World Squad' of Bayern is also slated to face other youth teams of Bundesliga.

A look at Shubho Paul's exploits in Indian football:

Paul, a member of India's Under-17 team, was picked by Sudeva FC's talent scouting team during their youth trials in 2017 and since then he has been nurtured by the I-League side. Paul started his career with Sudeva's Under-13 team and, now, is the captain of their senior I-League team.

In his debut season, the dynamic striker netted 58 goals in just 14 matches and the rest is history. He also emerged as U-13 I-League's leading goal scorer.

After his exploits in the U-13 team, Paul was handpicked by the Indian football team and invited to join the India U-15 national camp. He netted 13 goals during the 2018-19 season of the AIFF U-15 Youth League and caught the attention of football fraternities across the country.

He was also part of India U-16's exposure tour of Turkey in 2019-20. In the event, Paul scored three goals in two appearances.

Paul was also part of India's 2019-20 AFC U-16 Championship qualifiers in Uzbekistan, where he scored three goals in as many games. He also played in AIFF U-18 Youth League and scored 14 goals in the event.

He was part of Sudeva FC's squad in the 2020-21 I-League season. He scored two goals in eight games in the match.

West Bengal chief minister Mamata Banerjee congratulated the youngster on his selection.

She tweeted, "My heartiest congratulations to Subho Paul, who has been selected to represent FC Bayern Munich World Squad in Germany. At the young age of 17, he has shown the world what football truly means to Bengal - beyond sport, it's an emotion. Proud moment for our country."

My heartiest congratulations to Subho Paul, who has been selected to represent FC Bayern Munich World Squad in Germany.

At the young age of 17, he has shown the world what football truly means to Bengal - beyond sport, it's an emotion.

https://sports.ndtv.com/football/shubho-paul-17-selected-in-bayern-munichs-world-squad-2462291
 
World Cup Qualifiers: Captain Sunil Chhetri One Goal Off Entering All-Time Top 10 As India Meet Afghanistan


Captain Sunil Chhetri is just one goal off from entering the all-time top-10 list of goal-scorers as India takes on Afghanistan in the joint 2022 World Cup and 2023 Asian Cup qualifiers.

Goal-machine Sunil Chhetri will look to add to his tally and enter the all-time top 10 scorers' list as a buoyant India meet Afghanistan in the joint 2022 World Cup and 2023 Asian Cup qualifiers in Doha on Tuesday. While the Indian team needs just a draw from their final game against Afghanistan to secure a place in the third round of AFC Asian Cup qualifiers after Oman defeated Afghanistan 2-1 on Friday, a hat-trick for Chhetri will see him equal the iconic Pele in terms of numbers of goals scored in the international arena.

Chhetri is also just one goal off entering the all-time top-10 list of goal-scorers, something he can easily achieve against Afghanistan, if not a hat-trick.

A Chhetri-inspired India ended their winless run in international football when the captain struck a brace against Bangladesh in their previous outing.

The talk since then mostly centered around the Indian talisman surpassing the legendary Lionel Messi as international football's second highest scorer among active players.

A veteran in top-flight at 36, Chhetri played down the comparisons with the Argentine global superstar, but he will certainly look to put his best foot forward come the next match and add to his tally of 74 goals.

If the Blue Tigers can avoid defeat in the upcoming match, they will finish third in their group, an improvement over the fifth-place result during the last campaign.

India are already out of contention to progress further in the World Cup qualifying campaign, and is now looking to secure a berth in 2023 Asian Cup, scheduled to be held in China.

India will enter the game as clear favourites despite Afghanistan's ability to fight it out.

Igor Stimac's men will be high on confidence after thoroughly dominating Bangladesh, against whom they enjoyed nearly 75% possession while completing more than 600 passes.

If they are to repeat that kind of impressive stats, India will need the duo of Chhetri and Manvir Singh to fire upfront, with Brandon Fernandes marshalling the midfield and keeping the supply chain flowing.

With Stimac reposing immense faith in him, Brandon has established himself as one of the country's top players playmakers.

He has provided three assists out of the five goals India has scored in the qualifying campaign so far and he would be more than eager to continue in the same vein.

Form and past record both favour India and anything less than a victory for the Blue Tigers will be seen as an upset.

As far as Afghanistan are concerned, they will take heart from their spirited performance in their previous outing against India, who were held to a stalemate at home by their lower-ranked opponents in 2019.


But the recent defeat against Oman means Afghanistan are not among the top fourth-placed teams in the World Cup qualifiers and a failure to win against India would send them to the playoffs just to get into the third round of Asian Cup qualifiers.

https://sports.ndtv.com/football/world-cup-qualifiers-captain-sunil-chhetri-one-goal-off-entering-all-time-top-10-as-india-meet-afghanistan-2463542
 
A 1-1 draw against Afghanistan, who were the better side and deservedly should have won.

With just one point more than them in the group and 8 points off the next best in Oman, we have been embarassing and shown our level. Just not good enough
 
What a pathetic football nation we are, despite Afghanistan scoring own goal, we still couldn't defeat them!

All those ISLs happening year after year count for nothing.
 
I've always admired how Afghanistan manages to have such a competent football team, at least by south asian standards, with all the turmoil happening inside their country.

FIFA rankings wise, they're the third best south asian team. But practically I've almost always seen them go toe to toe with us every time we play a match with them.
 
MP2011 said:
What a pathetic football nation we are, despite Afghanistan scoring own goal, we still couldn't defeat them!

All those ISLs happening year after year count for nothing.
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Ah the usual ordinary citizens of a nation always talking about problems than solutions. Atleast ISL and those involved have a vision and are doing something about it. Well you are only fit to do bhangra anonymously on a forum lol
 
globalcitizen said:
Ah the usual ordinary citizens of a nation always talking about problems than solutions. Atleast ISL and those involved have a vision and are doing something about it. Well you are only fit to do bhangra anonymously on a forum lol
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ISL has been around for eight years.
 
Ahmad-GERMANFC said:
ISL has been around for eight years.
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Don't let facts get in the way of his obviously uninformed and fake patriotic rant. With him, everything about India is great!
 
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globalcitizen said:
Ah the usual ordinary citizens of a nation always talking about problems than solutions. Atleast ISL and those involved have a vision and are doing something about it. Well you are only fit to do bhangra anonymously on a forum lol
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Unlike fake patriots like you who ran away to foreign lands for favourable environs, I'm in India and hence entitled to say whatever I want to about my motherland unlike a fake like you.
 
Drawing 0-0 with the 205th ranked Sri Lankan National team in the SAFF Cup. What an embarrassment.

Not too long ago we drew with Nepal but this is a new low. No quality at all. ISL is a sham
 
Indian Football federation needs to learn from Hockey India

Hockey was almost dead & buried when India could not qualify for 2008 Olympics. Hockey India made a long term plan , roped in European experts and changed the game altogether in India. Now we won bronze at Tokyo OLympics

We need something on that scale in football. ISL is big joke. The quality of football is abysmal
 
Indian women's football team have been invited for 4 nation tournament with Brazil, Chile and Venezuela in Brazil. It is a historical moment in many ways as the Indian women would be rubbing shoulders against some of the best women's footballers in the world.

They lost the opening match 6-1 against hosts Brazil, but they managed to score a goal that's kinda historic, as funny as it sounds in a 6-1 defeat.
 
OldWarHorse said:
Drawing 0-0 with the 205th ranked Sri Lankan National team in the SAFF Cup. What an embarrassment.

Not too long ago we drew with Nepal but this is a new low. No quality at all. ISL is a sham
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We have been playing very young side since the new coach has taken over so the results have not been great, but recently concluded Asian cup qualifiers we finished second in group stage ahead of Oman . The late penalty conceded against UAE as the difference between us topping and qualifying
 
A crucial win against Afghanistan tonight and I think another Asia cup presence is almost guaranteed with a draw against HK should be enough. Finally a new goalscorer apart from Chhetri too
 
Football has taken over cricket in Indian cities. The only time I see kids interested in cricket sadly is during the IPL. I used to think the average Indian body is athletically more suited to cricket than football, but seeing the skill levels of kids who've grown up on football, I was quite wrong. They're pretty good and I won't be surprised if India improves dramatically in the next couple of decades. There are also programs by huge clubs in which school kids who show a little promise are taken on sponsored tours of clubs like Real Madrid. A cousin of mine got to kick a ball around there a couple of yeas back when he was 14. Futsal is also surprisingly popular at least in my city. So yeah, India will have a few more known names in the future it seems like.
 
Diet and genetics probably.

Asians are generally not as good as white people and black people when it comes to soccer/football.
 
pillionrider said:
Football has taken over cricket in Indian cities. The only time I see kids interested in cricket sadly is during the IPL. I used to think the average Indian body is athletically more suited to cricket than football, but seeing the skill levels of kids who've grown up on football, I was quite wrong. They're pretty good and I won't be surprised if India improves dramatically in the next couple of decades. There are also programs by huge clubs in which school kids who show a little promise are taken on sponsored tours of clubs like Real Madrid. A cousin of mine got to kick a ball around there a couple of yeas back when he was 14. Futsal is also surprisingly popular at least in my city. So yeah, India will have a few more known names in the future it seems like.
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Football is very difficult to grow in to a global powerhouses where China despite all their investments in the game in next 30 years maximum I see a token world cup appearance at the max for India.
 
Xoib said:
Football is very difficult to grow in to a global powerhouses where China despite all their investments in the game in next 30 years maximum I see a token world cup appearance at the max for India.
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Not sure if India can even make it to a WC anytime in the next couple decades. Being a fairly competitive Asia Cup team doesn't seem too far fetched though.

I meant that urban kids seem more interested in football and the skills you see now are far superior to what was on show couple decades back. So slowly, there will be more players that the average Indian sports fan can name - right now there's only Chhetri and before him Bhutia.
 
OldWarHorse said:
A crucial win against Afghanistan tonight and I think another Asia cup presence is almost guaranteed with a draw against HK should be enough. Finally a new goalscorer apart from Chhetri too
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Looks like India and Afghanistan footballers hit the like button on this song :warner

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pillionrider said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="in" dir="ltr">India vs Afghanistan Fight ����<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IndianFootball?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#IndianFootball</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ISL?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ISL</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BlueTigers?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BlueTigers</a> <a href="https://t.co/jlvU1P8CKe">pic.twitter.com/jlvU1P8CKe</a></p>— Navaneed M ��️*�� (@mattathil777777) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattathil777777/status/1535834931904991232?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 12, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Tweet taken from the NDTV article [MENTION=93712]MenInG[/MENTION]
https://sports.ndtv.com/football/wa...alifier-3060581#pfrom=home-ndtv_lateststories

Looks like India and Afghanistan footballers hit the like button on this song :warner

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Yeah the rivalry is always intense with Afghanistan. Very physical team they are and India struggles to beat them.

It was looking they would again spoil India's game until the late winner so things boiling over at the end.
 
FIFA has reminded India’s football association that it risks losing the upcoming Under-17 Women’s World Cup and faces a ban due to “deviations” from an agreed road map aimed at sorting out governance issues.

In May, India’s highest court disbanded the All India Football Federation (AIFF) and appointed a three-member committee to govern the sport, amend the AIFF’s constitution and conduct elections that have been pending for 18 months.

In response, football’s world governing body FIFA and the Asian Football Confederation (AFC) sent a team, led by AFC General Secretary Windsor John, to meet stakeholders in Indian football and laid down a road map for the AIFF to amend its statutes by the end of July and subsequently conclude elections at the latest by September 15.

This week, the Indian court ordered elections to be held promptly and said the elected committee would be an interim body for a period of three months.

“As per the said roadmap, the AIFF was to call for a special general assembly on the first week of August 2022 to approve the new statutes worked upon with FIFA, the AFC and the Indian football community,” a letter sent by FIFA and AFC said.

“Unfortunately, we have been informed that the Supreme Court’s hearing held yesterday on the situation of the AIFF allegedly resulted in deviations to the aforementioned roadmap.

“If this is considered to be true, it would irrefutably jeopardise the mutual understanding which was displayed so far on the steps forward.”

The letter, seen by Reuters news agency, was addressed to acting AIFF general secretary Sunando Dhar and signed by FIFA secretary general Fatma Samoura and AFC’s John.

It asked the Indian body to provide a transcript of the court’s decision by Tuesday.

FIFA warned that sanctions, if serious deviations to the agreed road map were found, could include “the suspension of the AIFF and the withdrawal of the hosting rights for the 2022 FIFA U-17 Women’s World Cup in India [in October]”.

The elections of the AIFF, formerly led by FIFA Council member Praful Patel, were to be held by December 2020 but were delayed due to an impasse over amendments to its constitution.

FIFA statutes say that member federations must be free from legal and political interference in their respective countries, and the world governing body has previously suspended other national associations over similar cases.

https://www.aljazeera.com/sports/20...tball-ban-over-deviations-from-agreed-roadmap
 
FIFA has suspended the All India Football Federation (AIFF) with immediate effect due to “undue influence from third parties”, world soccer’s governing body said on Monday.

The suspension also means that the Under-17 women’s World Cup, which was scheduled to take place in India from Oct. 11-30, cannot be held in the country as planned.

The Supreme Court of India had disbanded the AIFF in May and appointed a three-member committee to govern the sport, amend the AIFF’s constitution and conduct elections that have been pending for 18 months.

In response, FIFA and the Asian Football Confederation sent a team led by AFC general secretary Windsor John to meet Indian football stakeholders and laid down a roadmap for the AIFF to amend its statutes by the end of July and subsequently conclude elections at the latest by Sept. 15.

“The suspension will be lifted once an order to set up a committee of administrators to assume the powers of the AIFF Executive Committee has been repealed and the AIFF administration regains full control of the AIFF’s daily affairs,” FIFA said in Monday’s statement.

Earlier this month, the Indian court ordered elections to be held promptly and said the elected committee would be an interim body for a period of three months.

The elections of the AIFF, formerly led by FIFA Council member Praful Patel, were to be held by December 2020 but were delayed due to an impasse over amendments to its constitution.

“FIFA is in constant constructive contact with the Ministry of Youth Affairs and Sports in India and is hopeful that a positive outcome to the case may still be achieved,” FIFA added.

According to FIFA statutes, member federations must be free from legal and political interference in their respective countries. FIFA has previously suspended other national associations over similar cases.

https://indianexpress.com/article/s...on-aiff-due-to-third-party-influence-8092343/
 
FIFA suspends All India Football Federation

The Bureau of the FIFA Council has unanimously decided to suspend the All India Football Federation (AIFF) with immediate effect due to undue influence from third parties, which constitutes a serious violation of the FIFA Statutes.

The suspension will be lifted once an order to set up a committee of administrators to assume the powers of the AIFF Executive Committee has been repealed and the AIFF administration regains full control of the AIFF’s daily affairs.

The suspension means that the FIFA U-17 Women’s World Cup 2022™, scheduled to take place in India on 11-30 October 2022, cannot currently be held in India as planned. FIFA is assessing the next steps with regard to the tournament and will refer the matter to the Bureau of the Council if and when necessary. FIFA is in constant constructive contact with the Ministry of Youth Affairs and Sports in India and is hopeful that a positive outcome to the case may still be achieved.

Source: https://www.fifa.com/about-fifa/ass...s/fifa-suspends-all-india-football-federation
 
Pakistanis were celebrating this wjile forgetting that we were banned for 16 months only because our one certain political party was appeasing someone.

I am sure india will sort this out in 2-3 months and not delay it like we did
 
Major said:
Pakistanis were celebrating this wjile forgetting that we were banned for 16 months only because our one certain political party was appeasing someone.

I am sure india will sort this out in 2-3 months and not delay it like we did
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India for sure will get this resolved quickly, but regardless its not good news for south asian football.
 
Wow! Quite a surprise.

Didn't expect them to get banned.

ICC should learn from FIFA (not to ban but to hold them accountable).
 
Tricky situation tbh. SC involved to clear the corruption in the organization but third party involvement is against FIFA rules.
 
sweep_shot said:
Wow! Quite a surprise.

Didn't expect them to get banned.

ICC should learn from FIFA (not to ban but to hold them accountable).
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Suspended..also ICC should hold who accountable? All south Asian boards will be banned if the same logic was used there.
 
Major said:
Pakistanis were celebrating this wjile forgetting that we were banned for 16 months only because our one certain political party was appeasing someone.
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Yes, that party is chor ppp who were appeasing their member faisal saleh hayat who played a significant role in destroying footballs development in Pakistan.
 
Major said:
Pakistanis were celebrating this wjile forgetting that we were banned for 16 months only because our one certain political party was appeasing someone.

I am sure india will sort this out in 2-3 months and not delay it like we did
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Pakistanis are likely celebrating the irony of Indians celebrating Pakistan being banned.
 
OldWarHorse said:
Tricky situation tbh. SC involved to clear the corruption in the organization but third party involvement is against FIFA rules.
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Problem is in this case FIFA is interfering in the judicial process of a country.

Praful patel will likely end up in jail. He is a FIFA council member and has big influence.

Now, what does fifa expect? Courts and law will not touch a Fifa member, else they will suspend that country?

India should take FIFA to the CAS or even ICJ, but that will not happen.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Problem is in this case FIFA is interfering in the judicial process of a country.

Praful patel will likely end up in jail. He is a FIFA council member and has big influence.

Now, what does fifa expect? Courts and law will not touch a Fifa member, else they will suspend that country?

India should take FIFA to the CAS or even ICJ, but that will not happen.
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How long will it take for Indian Football board to get out of this mess and than get themselves unsuspended?
 
Major said:
How long will it take for Indian Football board to get out of this mess and than get themselves unsuspended?
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You have to understand the problem.

Praful Patel a political businessman was holding the post of AIFF president since 2009. As per the AIFF constitution of 2011 he could not stay beyond 9 years or 3 terms. But he refused to leave.

He ofcourse had huge influence in FIFA and is one of VPs from AFC and a FIFA council member. So he was confident that FIFA wont do anything.

Ultimately the other members approached courts and the court removed Praful Patel and appointed administrators to conduct elections and perform day to day activities, in May this year. Patel then wrote to FIFA that this is outside interference. Fifa wrote to the Indian sports ministry regarding this.

The Sports ministry and Fifa and AFC held various meetings and elections were to be held in August last/September.

Praful patel meanwhile started lobbying with the AIFF members to jeopardize the elections and put various obstacles. He again used his influence at FIFA to send a letter regarding

A contempt of court
 
A contempt of court petition was filed against him for his actions against the supreme court order. Sensing trouble he used his influence at FIFA to get India suspended.

Now how long will it take to settle this? We will get some indication tommorow when the court sits.
 
cricketjoshila said:
You have to understand the problem.

Praful Patel a political businessman was holding the post of AIFF president since 2009. As per the AIFF constitution of 2011 he could not stay beyond 9 years or 3 terms. But he refused to leave.

He ofcourse had huge influence in FIFA and is one of VPs from AFC and a FIFA council member. So he was confident that FIFA wont do anything.

Ultimately the other members approached courts and the court removed Praful Patel and appointed administrators to conduct elections and perform day to day activities, in May this year. Patel then wrote to FIFA that this is outside interference. Fifa wrote to the Indian sports ministry regarding this.

The Sports ministry and Fifa and AFC held various meetings and elections were to be held in August last/September.

Praful patel meanwhile started lobbying with the AIFF members to jeopardize the elections and put various obstacles. He again used his influence at FIFA to send a letter regarding

A contempt of court
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what if elections get held and a new person gets chosen?
 
JaDed said:
99% of Indian ministers ex or recent are absolute morons!.
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Praful Patel will end up in jail. And soon some country will take FIFA to court for their stupid statutes.

Recourse to ordinary courts of law is prohibited unless specifically provided for in the FIFA regulations. Recourse to ordinary courts of law for all types of provisional measures is also prohibited.

"The associations shall insert a clause in their statutes or regulations, stipulating that it is prohibited to take disputes in the association or disputes affecting leagues, members of leagues, clubs, members of clubs, players, officials and other association officials to ordinary courts of law, unless the FIFA regulations or binding legal provisions specifically provide for or stipulate recourse to ordinary courts of law.

Read this. This basically takes away a person's basic right to approach courts in case of a dispute. FIFA wants to protect its officials from laws and courts. This is unsustainable.

FIFA suspended Zimbabwe FA. Because police arrested the officials fir complaints of sexual misconduct.
 
sweep_shot said:
Wow! Quite a surprise.

Didn't expect them to get banned.

ICC should learn from FIFA (not to ban but to hold them accountable).
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Indians are 1.5 billion, most play cricket. Numbers is the only reason they have power in ICC, the more people the more money. FIFA is a different beast, India has little to no influence.

Im sure the ban will be overturned within 6 months.
 
Now audio tapes of Praful Patel influencing AIFF members to lobby to ban India are out. Seems agencies were keeping tabs on him.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Indians are 1.5 billion, most play cricket. Numbers is the only reason they have power in ICC, the more people the more money. FIFA is a different beast, India has little to no influence.

Im sure the ban will be overturned within 6 months.
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By that logic, PCB should have been the second richest board in the world, isn't it?
 
cricketjoshila said:
Now audio tapes of Praful Patel influencing AIFF members to lobby to ban India are out. Seems agencies were keeping tabs on him.
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FIFA is digging a hole here. If Indian institutions get involved, they may create lot of unwanted noise on these transactions and power plays that takes place within football bodies protected by FIFA.
 
RajBan said:
FIFA is digging a hole here. If Indian institutions get involved, they may create lot of unwanted noise on these transactions and power plays that takes place within football bodies protected by FIFA.
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Fifa will have to lift the ban. Indian govt is actively engaged with them. Else the next step would be to move CAS, ICJ etc.

Why is fifa so afraid of anyone moving ordinary courts? Its a basic human right?
 
Doesn't matter. India never was or will be a Footballing power as much as their people think they are. They think the entire world envies their third rate players.
 
RajBan said:
It is well documented FIFA uses these woke logic and clauses to protect their corrupt officials. What happens in Asia and Africa and how they try to cover up is amazing.
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One of these days some court is going to drag them through the dirt and make sure their stupid clauses are put where sun doesn't shine. Likely to happen in US.
 
Hitman said:
By that logic, PCB should have been the second richest board in the world, isn't it?
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1.5 billion is the same as continents, numerous countries. Pak has only 200 million. If India also had 200 million, it woulnt be the richest board, a little common sense will tell you this.


FIFA is not ICC, they are huge and dont care about 1.5 billion Indians.

Its no major loss for India, football isnt ta sport the country will ever excel in. Stick to IPL imo.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Ban overturned.
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FIFA, the world's football governing body, on Friday lifted its suspension on the All India Football Federation. The move means India will remain the hosts for the U-17 Women's World Cup 2022 in October. "The Bureau of the FIFA Council has decided to lift the suspension that was imposed on the All India Football Federation (AIFF) due to undue third-party influence," FIFA wrote in its official release. "The decision was taken after FIFA received confirmation that the mandate of the committee of administrators that was set up to assume the powers of the AIFF Executive Committee had been terminated and that the AIFF administration had regained full control of the AIFF's daily affairs."

"FIFA and the AFC will continue to monitor the situation and will support the AIFF in organising its elections in a timely manner," FIFA wrote.

"As a consequence, the FIFA U-17 Women's World Cup 2022 scheduled to take place on 11-30 October 2022 will be held in India as planned," the statement concluded.

FIFA had suspended the AIFF on August 15 for "undue influence from third parties" and had said the U-17 Women's World Cup "cannot currently be held in India as planned".

On Tuesday, the AIFF had requested the FIFA to lift the ban imposed on it following Supreme Court's decision to terminate the mandate of Committee of Administrators.

NDTV
 
Bhutia 'shocked at high level of political interference in AIFF polls'

Former India captain Bhaichung Bhutia on Saturday said he was shocked at the "high level" of political interference in the All India Football Federation (AIFF) elections, which didn't pan out as he would have liked.

"I was shocked because I personally did not expect that the political interference (in AIFF elections) would be of such a high level. I thought it's a football president election and I wanted to contribute with sincerity," Bhutia told PTI.

"If they (his opponents) were so confident of victory, why a powerful union minister had to come at the hotel (where the voters were staying) at 9pm (on Thursday) and stay there till 2am in the morning of election day (on Friday) and take all of them to a particular floor of the hotel," he said.

Though Bhutia did not take the name of the union minister, his proposer in the polls and Rajasthan state association president Manvendra Singh had on Friday alleged that law minister Kiren Rijiju was present at the hotel and told the members to vote against the former India captain.

https://www.rediff.com/sports/repor...tical-interference-in-aiff-polls/20220903.htm
 
No wonder we suck at football. So much political interference that a legend like Bhutia had to face such ignominy.

That's what happens when you are out to win every single election, by hook or by crook.
 
Kalyan Chaubey is a very well known footballer, having player fir Mohun Bagan, East Bengal and the Indian team.

Just because he beat the president of another political party who was previously with TMC, he is bad. Praful Patel's proxy got defeated.

LoL.
 
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