First report on Mohammad Asif's performances at the NCA

[TalentSpotterPk]

He won't be given a visa to play in England and its doubtful Amir will either.

Nops.


Pcb has to apply the way they applied for Amir's visa of NZ

 

[pacesensation]

Meanwhile Mohammad Asif is leading Sialkot team beautifully. (Slang)


Sialkot have qualified for the semifinal and in his leadership they may become champions of QEA trophy grade 2 the way they are playing.


Sialkot have two bowlers who are in contention for England test tour. Asif and Abbass. Asif & Abbass shared 10 wickets amongst them on a flat dead wicket but semifinal and final wickets will suit Asif more.


# Doing his job Silently

abbas as in Muhammad Abbas, the FAST bowler? who played england lions?

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

abbas as in Muhammad Abbas, the FAST bowler? who played england lions?

Yes same. 7-61 lately

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[TalentSpotterPk]

Medium fast. Bowls few in the range of fast medium. He isn't fast.

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[Prince of Pakistan]

Is there some serious tournament coming up that could test Asif's form and class? Asif needs some matches at the highest level in order to be considered again.

To see the magician bowl again in England would be a dream come true.

 

[KamranDestiny]

Can you imagine Amir & Asif opening for Pak in WC2019 in England ?

Supported by Yasir Shah, Imad Wasim/Asghar, Junaid Khan, Hassan Ali.

 

[kingusama92]

Meanwhile Mohammad Asif is leading Sialkot team beautifully. (Slang)


Sialkot have qualified for the semifinal and in his leadership they may become champions of QEA trophy grade 2 the way they are playing.


Sialkot have two bowlers who are in contention for England test tour. Asif and Abbass. Asif & Abbass shared 10 wickets amongst them on a flat dead wicket but semifinal and final wickets will suit Asif more.


# Doing his job Silently

Thanks for the update.

He's a must for the England tour imo.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

Can you imagine Amir & Asif opening for Pak in WC2019 in England ?

Supported by Yasir Shah, Imad Wasim/Asghar, Junaid Khan, Hassan Ali.

Aamir, Asif, Wahab and Yasir is a great mix. You have two new ball bowlers, one enforcer (fast, reverse swing) and a quality spinner.

Let's see what fate has it in it for us.

 

[Kaka4pope]

Aamir, Asif, Wahab and Yasir is a great mix. You have two new ball bowlers, one enforcer (fast, reverse swing) and a quality spinner.

Let's see what fate has it in it for us.

Would you not opt for Imran Khan over Wahab?

matches-7 innings-13 best-5/58 ave-28.10 eco-3.22 SR-52.3

6 of 7 matches were in the UAE, the other in SL...

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Would you not opt for Imran Khan over Wahab?

matches-7 innings-13 best-5/58 ave-28.10 eco-3.22 SR-52.3

6 of 7 matches were in the UAE, the other in SL...

In presence of Asif you don't need Imran in the playing eleven.

In absence of Asif you need Imran.


Wahab is an out and out fast bowler. In test cricket there are phases where you need somebody running in fast and bowling quick. Wahab provided that.


On a dead phatta in UAE Wahab bowled a 9 overs spell in absolute heat and took 2-3 wickets in that test. Probably 2nd test and we won it.


Imran should be part of squad though.


For an out and out fast bowler for English wickets Sami isn't as quick as Wahab and is 4,5 years older than Wahab and has an awful test record. So Wahab makes the squad & playing eleven unless we unearth a new bowler who bowls quick and is better than Wahab.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Ajk 157 all out.

Asif 2-23

Abbass 2-48


Sialkot have qualified for Semifinal as this match was a dead rubber.

 

[Kaka4pope]

In presence of Asif you don't need Imran in the playing eleven.

In absence of Asif you need Imran.


Wahab is an out and out fast bowler. In test cricket there are phases where you need somebody running in fast and bowling quick. Wahab provided that.


On a dead phatta in UAE Wahab bowled a 9 overs spell in absolute heat and took 2-3 wickets in that test. Probably 2nd test and we won it.


Imran should be part of squad though.


For an out and out fast bowler for English wickets Sami isn't as quick as Wahab and is 4,5 years older than Wahab and has an awful test record. So Wahab makes the squad & playing eleven unless we unearth a new bowler who bowls quick and is better than Wahab.

That's a pretty fair assessment.

I am a fan of Imran, he's always on the money and in England that can go a long way, appreciate what you say about Wahab's speed though and in the UAE he too has bowled well.

All being well we potentially (barring no dramas) have an excellent quartet of quick bowlers - Amir, Wahab, Asif, Imran

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

That's a pretty fair assessment.

I am a fan of Imran, he's always on the money and in England that can go a long way, appreciate what you say about Wahab's speed though and in the UAE he too has bowled well.

All being well we potentially (barring no dramas) have an excellent quartet of quick bowlers - Amir, Wahab, Asif, Imran

Since test squad for England is 19 membered so 1 of Sadaf/Abbass will also be there if they perform well for Pakistan A in England.

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[Kaka4pope]

Since test squad for England is 19 membered so 1 of Sadaf/Abbass will also be there if they perform well for Pakistan A in England.

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Even better, just really hope for no controversy, even within the team. Just be terrific to have a full strength bowling unit for the tour. Hopefully Misbah continues to steer a calm ship. There is so much ability among the bowlers we've mentioned and together with Shah...

Just hope our batters can average 250-300 per innings and then let our bowlers loose.

Who would your 1-7 be?

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

1. Naeemuddin
2. Hafeez
3. Azhar Ali
4. Younis Khan
5. Misbah ul Haq
6. Asad Shafique
7. Sarfraz Ahmed

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[Slog]

The tournament being played doesnt even qualify as a proper domestic tournament and performances wont count in domestic stats

 

[Zeshan547]

1. Naeemuddin
2. Hafeez
3. Azhar Ali
4. Younis Khan
5. Misbah ul Haq
6. Asad Shafique
7. Sarfraz Ahmed

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8-yasir
9-wahab
10-amir
11-asif
and may be butt for naeemuddin if he can get visa, this would be perfect storm, and poms will be ruins before they even know what hit them, this team at worst has potential to win this 4 test series 2-1, and can even make it 3-0, yeah you read it right. But considering PCB and their level of competence, we will most likely not see this XI in UK.

 

[Zeshan547]

1. Harris Sohail
2. Azhar Ali
3. Babar Azam
4. Younis Khan
5. Misbah ul Haq
6. Asad Shafique
7. Sarfraz Ahmed
8-Yasir Shah
9-Wahab Riaz
10-Muhammad Amir
11-Muhammad Asif
and may be butt for harris or babar if he can get visa, this would be perfect storm, and poms will be ruins before they even know what hit them, this team at worst has potential to win this 4 test series 2-1, and can even make it 3-0, yeah you read it right. But considering PCB and their level of competence, we will most likely not see this XI in UK.

 

[Kaka4pope]

1. Naeemuddin
2. Hafeez
3. Azhar Ali
4. Younis Khan
5. Misbah ul Haq
6. Asad Shafique
7. Sarfraz Ahmed

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looks pretty solid, or as solid as we can be - looking forward to Babar and Haris kicking on too...

Hafeez is an interesting one, its a bit of loss him not being able to bowl, very useful to have him as another spin option, he's quite a sharp bowler and has performed well in a supporting capacity to a main spinner.

What about Asad moving up to 5? more of a 'classic' test bat than Misbah and it would give him more time in the middle with other batsmen rather than the tail...

 

[FlickedOffHips]

Pakistan fast bowling is not the problem. Butt would add more to the team.

 

[simon619]

Nops.


Pcb has to apply the way they applied for Amir's visa of NZ

They can do that but it won't be as simple, him and Amir both were convicted in the UK and were behind bars for a while. I hope both are granted a Visa but I have huge doubts, plus they're a lot more stricter then they use to be here in the UK.

 

[simon619]

Lets ask PP's most notorious lawyer:
[MENTION=131867]London_Lahori[/MENTION] what are the chances that Asif and Amir can enter the UK in time for the summer?
[MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION] Slipin Lahori ) They better give him a ring

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

They can do that but it won't be as simple, him and Amir both were convicted in the UK and were behind bars for a while. I hope both are granted a Visa but I have huge doubts, plus they're a lot more stricter then they use to be here in the UK.

As per rules they could not enter UK for 5 years after their conviction. And that time is over now.

Whereas since Salman got deported so he cannot enter UK atleast in 2016.

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[simon619]

As per rules they could not enter UK for 5 years after their conviction. And that time is over now.

Whereas since Salman got deported so he cannot enter UK atleast in 2016.

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They still look at your past history and can be douche bags

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

They still look at your past history and can be douche bags

Corruption in Sports is now a Global Issue.

If they stop Asif or Amir or both than it will be taken as Bad taste and they will further strengthen their chances of winning.

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[simon619]

Corruption in Sports is now a Global Issue.

If they stop Asif or Amir or both than it will be taken as Bad taste and they will further strengthen their chances of winning.

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PCB need to get the ball rolling ASAP though regardless because the situation is a lot more sensitive in comparison to getting the visa for NZ, iA both are able to come here. Have fond memories of watching Asif and Amir bowl at the Edgbaston ground which is a lot bigger now, unfortunate that we didn't get any of the limited over games

With Asif though, it remains to be seen how keen the PCB are to include him in their test team. He is performing well though at the moment which is good to see and that will help his cause greatly

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

PCB need to get the ball rolling ASAP though regardless because the situation is a lot more sensitive in comparison to getting the visa for NZ, iA both are able to come here. Have fond memories of watching Asif and Amir bowl at the Edgbaston ground which is a lot bigger now, unfortunate that we didn't get any of the limited over games

With Asif though, it remains to be seen how keen the PCB are to include him in their test team. He is performing well though at the moment which is good to see and that will help his cause greatly

Asif played first 2 matches of QEA grade 2 on one of the most dead wickets of Pakistan where there was absolutely nothing for fast bowlers unless you can bowl at 150+ and take pitch out of the picture.


Now that he strong Sialkot side has reached Semifinal of QEA trophy with Asif having match practice of bowling in 4,5 innings while bowling 25 overs in one innings only so he should make sure that Sialkot win QEA trophy grade 2 with him shinning in semifinal & final.

If he can do that than definitely Selectors will be pushed and Misbah & Waqar would also want him. Because in England you cannot win with just potential world class fast bowler and a spinner. Since Yasir doesn't spin the ball sharply so he would not be taking much wickets in UK.


We visit England after every 5 to 6 years and Waqar & Misbah would want to make it memorable.

We should not remove Waqar as coach. He is in favour of having Asif back.

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[New Yorker]

Aamir, Asif, Wahab and Yasir is a great mix. You have two new ball bowlers, one enforcer (fast, reverse swing) and a quality spinner.

Let's see what fate has it in it for us.

Oh stop it with the 'enforcer' already. What does that even mean? He's at most 2 kph faster than Amir
right now but without the skill. No bowler averaging 30+ makes for a great mix. Imran Khan or Sadaf are much better prospects in English conditions, and Imran has certainly earned his chance with consistent performances.

 

[cricketbadshah]

Is asif is playing in any of the domestic tournament right know? If yes then how is his stat?

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

Oh stop it with the 'enforcer' already. What does that even mean? He's at most 2 kph faster than Amir
right now but without the skill. No bowler averaging 30+ makes for a great mix. Imran Khan or Sadaf are much better prospects in English conditions, and Imran has certainly earned his chance with consistent performances.

Maybe you should first find out what the term means and how it is used in modern day cricket. Wahab has been a great success in test cricket for Pakistan since his come back in 2014 in this role. In the UAE you need someone to bowl that awkward length to make something happen. Wahab is different from our new ball bowlers as he can reverse the ball at good pace and bowl that length which isn't comfortable for the batsman.

Wahab gives you variety which will be more handy in Southern England where the wickets are better for batting. No wonder Wahab did well at the Oval in 2010 picking up 5 wickets on debut. You could play IK or Junaid instead but they don't give anything extra when the ball is older and nothing is happening for you.

Let's say Misbah knows how to utilize Wahab in test cricket and I am sure he will have him in the squad.

 

[Zeshan547]

Maybe you should first find out what the term means and how it is used in modern day cricket. Wahab has been a great success in test cricket for Pakistan since his come back in 2014 in this role. In the UAE you need someone to bowl that awkward length to make something happen. Wahab is different from our new ball bowlers as he can reverse the ball at good pace and bowl that length which isn't comfortable for the batsman.

Wahab gives you variety which will be more handy in Southern England where the wickets are better for batting. No wonder Wahab did well at the Oval in 2010 picking up 5 wickets on debut. You could play IK or Junaid instead but they don't give anything extra when the ball is older and nothing is happening for you.

Let's say Misbah knows how to utilize Wahab in test cricket and I am sure he will have him in the squad.

Fully agree.

 

[New Yorker]

Maybe you should first find out what the term means and how it is used in modern day cricket. Wahab has been a great success in test cricket for Pakistan since his come back in 2014 in this role. In the UAE you need someone to bowl that awkward length to make something happen. Wahab is different from our new ball bowlers as he can reverse the ball at good pace and bowl that length which isn't comfortable for the batsman.

Wahab gives you variety which will be more handy in Southern England where the wickets are better for batting. No wonder Wahab did well at the Oval in 2010 picking up 5 wickets on debut. You could play IK or Junaid instead but they don't give anything extra when the ball is older and nothing is happening for you.

Let's say Misbah knows how to utilize Wahab in test cricket and I am sure he will have him in the squad.

I take it you are not very good at spotting rhetorical questions.

So here's my reading of it; 'Enforcer' is a euphemism. A term used to describe someone who has a low
'huff-and-puff' to wickets ratio. A bowling average of 30+ say, yet still managing to hold a place in the
side. Bowlers who are fast and bowl heavy balls while also taking wickets are usually not
called 'enforcers,' unless their form dips and it becomes more difficult to justify their place in the side.
There was a point in his career when this applied very much to Stuart Broad, and the media picked
up on it. Google his name alongside the word 'enforcer.' When bowlers are bowling well consistently they
are just recognized as 'good,' and sometimes 'great', perhaps with words like 'beast' appended to the description. Shaun Tait and Shoaib Akthar and Mitchell Johnson and Shane Bond were all very good
illustrations of this point. All of which is to say, I don't dispute in the least that Wahab is an 'enforcer.' I
was inviting you to consider how unflattering the appellation may in fact be.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

I take it you are not very good at spotting rhetorical questions.

So here's my reading of it; 'Enforcer' is a euphemism. A term used to describe someone who has a low
'huff-and-puff' to wickets ratio. A bowling average of 30+ say, yet still managing to hold a place in the
side. Bowlers who are fast and bowl heavy balls while also taking wickets are usually not
called 'enforcers,' unless their form dips and it becomes more difficult to justify their place in the side.
There was a point in his career when this applied very much to Stuart Broad, and the media picked
up on it. Google his name alongside the word 'enforcer.' When bowlers are bowling well consistently they
are just recognized as 'good,' and sometimes 'great', perhaps with words like 'beast' appended to the description. Shaun Tait and Shoaib Akthar and Mitchell Johnson and Shane Bond were all very good
illustrations of this point. All of which is to say, I don't dispute in the least that Wahab is an 'enforcer.' I
was inviting you to consider how unflattering the appellation may in fact be.

Interesting. Thanks for the information.

I meant to say that Wahab usually makes something happen even on the flattest of wickets. When Aamir or Imran Khan are not getting the job done with the new ball in tests Wahab will be a very interesting option for the captain.

Wahab in ODI's and Wahab in tests aren't comparable. But that could be due to the nature of the format.

 

[New Yorker]

Maybe you should first find out what the term means and how it is used in modern day cricket. Wahab has been a great success in test cricket for Pakistan since his come back in 2014 in this role. In the UAE you need someone to bowl that awkward length to make something happen. Wahab is different from our new ball bowlers as he can reverse the ball at good pace and bowl that length which isn't comfortable for the batsman.

Wahab gives you variety which will be more handy in Southern England where the wickets are better for batting. No wonder Wahab did well at the Oval in 2010 picking up 5 wickets on debut. You could play IK or Junaid instead but they don't give anything extra when the ball is older and nothing is happening for you.

Let's say Misbah knows how to utilize Wahab in test cricket and I am sure he will have him in the squad.

Junaid on his current form I don't want to argue for. But all evidence to date suggests that IK will usually give you more wickets than Wahab, more often and at lesser cost in runs. He has played in the UAE as much as Wahab so the comparison is fair also in those terms. As importantly, England is a place where the ball will on average do a bit more; where movement and line and length will pay dividends. Which doesn't sound like Wahab's cup of chai.

 

[New Yorker]

Interesting. Thanks for the information.

I meant to say that Wahab usually makes something happen even on the flattest of wickets. When Aamir or Imran Khan are not getting the job done with the new ball in tests Wahab will be a very interesting option for the captain.

Wahab in ODI's and Wahab in tests aren't comparable. But that could be due to the nature of the format.

I know very well this argument made for Wahab but would tender that he does not make things happen nearly often enough. And in between making things happen, when he does make them happen, he leaks runs. Hence his high Ave and low SR. Nor am I convinced that Wahab is better at making things happen then Amir, who is far more skilled, and nearly as fast. Does he not also know how to reverse swing? The point again would be that Amir can do many other things beside bowl fast, whereas that is basically Wahab's only selling point. So we always come back to this 'X factor' or 'making things happen' language.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

I know very well this argument made for Wahab but would tender that he does not make things happen nearly often enough. And in between making things happen, when he does make them happen, he leaks runs. Hence his high Ave and low SR. Nor am I convinced that Wahab is better at making things happen then Amir, who is far more skilled, and nearly as fast. Does he not also know how to reverse swing? The point again would be that Amir can do many other things beside bowl fast, whereas that is basically Wahab's only selling point. So we always come back to this 'X factor' or 'making things happen' language.

Obviously Aamir is potentially world class. But unfortunately Aamir can't do all the work. Wahab has pace and reverses the ball, a decent third pacer in tests. IK could be preferred in Northern England, but I'd for sure play Wahab at the Oval and maybe at Lord's as well. Yasir will be key on those grounds as well.

 

[Junaids]

Up until today, Asif's comeback figures in long-form cricket are:

66 overs
217 runs
9 wickets
Average of 24.11
Strike Rate of 37.3

It's impossible to imagine how he can be excluded from the Test team to England on merit.

Moreover, after he took 1-90 in his first Match back, he has got better and better, with subsequent figures of 9 wickets for 127 runs at a paltry average of 14.11 runs per wicket.

He's back!

 

[Junaids]

Obviously Aamir is potentially world class. But unfortunately Aamir can't do all the work. Wahab has pace and reverses the ball, a decent third pacer in tests. IK could be preferred in Northern England, but I'd for sure play Wahab at the Oval and maybe at Lord's as well. Yasir will be key on those grounds as well.

Why take the risk of playing Imran?

Why not a Test attack in England, New Zealand and Australia of:

Mohammad Amir
Mohammad Asif
Wahab Riaz
Yasir Shah

That is the world's best attack. And with the eligible-again Mohammad Hafeez and Azhar Ali to bowl a few overs to keep them fresh.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Up until today, Asif's comeback figures in long-form cricket are:

66 overs
217 runs
9 wickets
Average of 24.11
Strike Rate of 37.3

It's impossible to imagine how he can be excluded from the Test team to England on merit.

Moreover, after he took 1-90 in his first Match back, he has got better and better, with subsequent figures of 9 wickets for 127 runs at a paltry average of 14.11 runs per wicket.

He's back!

Told you.

Now those posts have been deleted. Remember when you posted that he was going at 5 runs per over and not taking any wickets. I said wickets of first two matches are absolutely dead and very slow for pacers and only spinners were amongst wickets. He will pick up. You were disappointed but he's back again.

 

[Hawkeye]

Up until today, Asif's comeback figures in long-form cricket are:

66 overs
217 runs
9 wickets
Average of 24.11
Strike Rate of 37.3

It's impossible to imagine how he can be excluded from the Test team to England on merit.

Moreover, after he took 1-90 in his first Match back, he has got better and better, with subsequent figures of 9 wickets for 127 runs at a paltry average of 14.11 runs per wicket.

He's back!

Asif must come back on the England tour.

I hope Misbah and Waqar ask for him. They both rate him.

 

[Junaids]

Told you.

Now those posts have been deleted. Remember when you posted that he was going at 5 runs per over and not taking any wickets. I said wickets of first two matches are absolutely dead and very slow for pacers and only spinners were amongst wickets. He will pick up. You were disappointed but he's back again.

Yes, you did tell me so!

It's really exciting. England, New Zealand and Australia often win home Tests after racking up enormous scores.

But if your selectors have the guts to pick the best team, they won't be able to.

The same applies to the batting. You have no established Test opener at all for outside Asia, but if you bring back Salman Butt you make life much harder for Anderson/Broad, Boult/Southee and Starc/Hazlewood by introducing a left-hander to mess up their line and length.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Yes, you did tell me so!

It's really exciting. England, New Zealand and Australia often win home Tests after racking up enormous scores.

But if your selectors have the guts to pick the best team, they won't be able to.

The same applies to the batting. You have no established Test opener at all for outside Asia, but if you bring back Salman Butt you make life much harder for Anderson/Broad, Boult/Southee and Starc/Hazlewood by introducing a left-hander to mess up their line and length.

Our Coach & Captain are more strong than Selection Committee.

Recently all selectors and coach was in favour of selecting Salman Butt instead of Ahmed Shehzad for World T20 but Shahid Afridi did Veto on this move and his wish prevailed.


If Waqar & Misbah stay as captain & coach than Asif will be selected. If Waqar gets replaced by Aqib Javed than it will be very hard for Asif to be selected. Wrt foreign coach it depends on the individual and his views about Asif as a person.

In our country mostly the captain and coach disregard selectors when the selectors have played less international matches than the captain or coach. So the selectors have two options :

a. Either they accept it as carry on as so called selectors and get their pay checks every month.

b. Resign from the post.


Since they aren't financially well off and they do not have other options as a professional so they prefer to opt for option A only.

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[TalentSpotterPk]

[MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION]


Asif for test tour of Australia ?

 

[#GreenRoars]

And then we cry about merit, performances, injustice from selectors e.t.c e.t.c

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

And then we cry about merit, performances, injustice from selectors e.t.c e.t.c

When he was first selected than was it on merit ?

When he made a comeback was it on merit ?


On both Ocassions what was his number on highest wicket takers list of last Fc season ?


Australian tour is after completion of 7 Fc matches ?


Detailed Answer would be encouraged.

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[shaz619]

When he was first selected than was it on merit ?

When he made a comeback was it on merit ?


On both Ocassions what was his number on highest wicket takers list of last Fc season ?


Australian tour is after completion of 7 Fc matches ?


Detailed Answer would be encouraged.

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Prior to the AUS tour how many FC games can Asif possibly play in Pakistan? any tournament going on? they don't want him apparently but the best chance for him to push for his selection is to take wickets in those games to force their hand otherwise it will be really difficult, personally I'd have had Asif in my squad for the England series the man was a genius and skill never dies, he had been pretty active to even though it wasn't an ideal scenario in that the PCB fastracked Amir's return and not his

 

[Khan12]

There is no need to call asif. We should invest in someone new like hasan Ali who is a much better fielder and a batsmen then him and even a better human being then him. A wasted talent, always found himself in controversies and I am am sure he will find a way again. So there is no need for him. Plus he is already 32 years old and I don't think he has the fitness to play test cricket and while in odi's he will be useless as he was before his ban.

 

[goran]

This England tour has made it pretty clear that our bowling barring Amir is weak. Even Amir is struggling with his rhythm and fitness. Asif should have been selected for the England series. Nevertheless, I feel the stage is set for Asif to make a comeback, we badly need him. He is too good a talent to be wasted. His selection will only benefit Pakistan cricket.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Prior to the AUS tour how many FC games can Asif possibly play in Pakistan? any tournament going on? they don't want him apparently but the best chance for him to push for his selection is to take wickets in those games to force their hand otherwise it will be really difficult, personally I'd have had Asif in my squad for the England series the man was a genius and skill never dies, he had been pretty active to even though it wasn't an ideal scenario in that the PCB fastracked Amir's return and not his

6 to 7 Fc matches of QEA Trophy for Wapda.


3 to 5 matches of QEA qualifying round for Sialkot.

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[TalentSpotterPk]

There is no need to call asif. We should invest in someone new like hasan Ali who is a much better fielder and a batsmen then him and even a better human being then him. A wasted talent, always found himself in controversies and I am am sure he will find a way again. So there is no need for him. Plus he is already 32 years old and I don't think he has the fitness to play test cricket and while in odi's he will be useless as he was before his ban.

His fitness levels are much better than Umar Gul, Irfan, Junaid Khan & Sohail Khan plus He has no history of knees, back or shoulder injuries.


In Tests in Australia either Tall bowlers flourish or those who are fast and can swing it.

Hasan is 5'9 and he is fast medium.


Since last 2-3 years Australian wickets are very fast and we need to give Amir opening partner who can choke runs from one end by consistantly bowling in good length areas and getting ocassional wickets aswell.


If Wahab is at ful throttle we need him otherwise He is not needed. Rahat on Bench, Amad as Fast Medium Allrounder and Ali Imran Pasha as First Change Tall Fast Medium Wicket taker.


Hasan for Odi's if English hardhitters fail to get underneath his deliveries.

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[Dr_Bassim]

[MENTION=138980]TalentSpotterPk[/MENTION]

I admire your passion and support, but we might as well call Shoaib Akhtar as well then if we are going to call up past potential ATG's.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

[MENTION=138980]TalentSpotterPk[/MENTION]

I admire your passion and support, but we might as well call Shoaib Akhtar as well then if we are going to call up past potential ATG's.

Take Some names of those lying in graves as well.

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[Dr_Bassim]

Take Some names of those lying in graves as well.

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Sure.

After you tell me what good would Asif do at the young age of 22.

People prepare teams for the future, we are interested in reviving the career of a 30 plus person.

Never understand folks.

 

[shaz619]

6 to 7 Fc matches of QEA Trophy for Wapda.


3 to 5 matches of QEA qualifying round for Sialkot.

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That's absolutely brilliant!!!! iA asif does incredibly well in those games to force the selectors hands

 

[gunner]

Asif is fitter than some of the experienced bowlers we have in our team plus we don't have anyone to match his skill level. He's the kind of bowler who takes the pitch out of the equation. If we 're to complete against sides like England and Australia, we need skillful and genuine fast bowlers not trundling "rayloo kattas". Amir performed his best when he bowled with Asif. Both of them should be our strike bowlers and youngsters like Amad , Hassan and Ali imran Pasha, Zia ul Haq can be the third and fourth seamers. They can get to learn from Asif/Amir and we can have an attack to reckon with.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Sure.

After you tell me what good would Asif do at the young age of 22.

People prepare teams for the future, we are interested in reviving the career of a 30 plus person.

Never understand folks.

Australia played Ryan Haris despite knowing that he was 30 plus and prone to injuries. He had 4-5 long lay offs due to knee trouble. Why CA persisted with him ?


Because he whenever he used to play every 2nd or 3rd test he contributed to Australian team in a winning manner.


Test Cricket is all about winning Test Matches. There is no Worldcup. This is the reason Stephen Cook made debut at 33 for SA, Chris Rogers played Test Cricket between the Age of 33 to 37 and Voges 35 to 37-38.


Courtney Walsh & Richard Hadlee 160 to 230 test wickets between the Age of 33 to 39. Hadlee had twice suffered serious knee troubles. Mcgrath also played until 37.


Umar Gul has made a comeback to Odi team despite him being Asif's age fellow. Unlike Asif he has twice had bad knee injuries and once Serious Back Injury.


Sohail Khan is 2 years elder than Asif and he has a history of twice suffering Stress fractures of Back and once he had a groin injury. He has made Test Comeback despite him being prone to severe stiffness issues after 1st Spell.


How many Fc and List A matches Asif has played compared to Anderson & Steyn ? Plus the fact that they have suffered knee & shoulder injuries. How much more wear and tear than Asif ?


Dale Steyn has Bowled 37000 balls in Fc, List A & T20 Cricket, James Anderson has bowled 53000 balls while Asif has only bowled 21000 balls in his Entire Career.


Asif has no history of Knee, Back or Shoulder Injuries.


Asif weights exactly the Same as he did 6 years ago.


A Rawalpindi FC Cricketer told owner of PP that when he played his first list A match it did not look as if he did not play competitive cricket for 6 long years.


How many Test Wickets Asif took at deliveries which were clocked between 78mph to 82 mph ? Probably 65 % of his test wickets. Asif still balls between 78 to 84 mph range.


Asif's Eco Rate in last domestic List A tournament he played was 3.8 which was better than 30 List A pacers who bowled in more than 4 matches in that tournament proving that he still lands balls after balls in the same good length areas.



On Aussie wickets we need Tall Bowler who can bowl with control and choke the runs. Ehsan Adil's fitness is poor than 33 years old Asif. None of Imran, Ehsan, Zia etc can choke runs like him and take wickets of top batsman of Opposition Team.


Spot Fixing and Gushtaabay are history now. He has paid heavily for his Crimes. Punishment is over and he is eligible for Selection.


Don't needlessly deprive viewers to see World Class Fast Bowler Once Again and Win Test Matches for Pakistan.


Test Cricket is about Playing your Top 11 Fit Performing Cricketers. Asif never topped Fc charts in his entire life. Why did Bob Woolmer push for his Selection ?

Asif is Fit, his ban is over, he was making mockery of our Test Batsman in NCA nets. Let him breathe Life again.


Also Ali Imran has hit his peak. He needs to come first change against Australia. To Hell with Age blah blah.



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[shaz619]

Australia played Ryan Haris despite knowing that he was 30 plus and prone to injuries. He had 4-5 long lay offs due to knee trouble. Why CA persisted with him ?


Because he whenever he used to play every 2nd or 3rd test he contributed to Australian team in a winning manner.


Test Cricket is all about winning Test Matches. There is no Worldcup. This is the reason Stephen Cook made debut at 33 for SA, Chris Rogers played Test Cricket between the Age of 33 to 37 and Voges 35 to 37-38.


Courtney Walsh & Richard Hadlee 160 to 230 test wickets between the Age of 33 to 39. Hadlee had twice suffered serious knee troubles. Mcgrath also played until 37.


Umar Gul has made a comeback to Odi team despite him being Asif's age fellow. Unlike Asif he has twice had bad knee injuries and once Serious Back Injury.


Sohail Khan is 2 years elder than Asif and he has a history of twice suffering Stress fractures of Back and once he had a groin injury. He has made Test Comeback despite him being prone to severe stiffness issues after 1st Spell.


How many Fc and List A matches Asif has played compared to Anderson & Steyn ? Plus the fact that they have suffered knee & shoulder injuries. How much more wear and tear than Asif ?


Dale Steyn has Bowled 37000 balls in Fc, List A & T20 Cricket, James Anderson has bowled 53000 balls while Asif has only bowled 21000 balls in his Entire Career.


Asif has no history of Knee, Back or Shoulder Injuries.


Asif weights exactly the Same as he did 6 years ago.


A Rawalpindi FC Cricketer told owner of PP that when he played his first list A match it did not look as if he did not play competitive cricket for 6 long years.


How many Test Wickets Asif took at deliveries which were clocked between 78mph to 82 mph ? Probably 65 % of his test wickets. Asif still balls between 78 to 84 mph range.


Asif's Eco Rate in last domestic List A tournament he played was 3.8 which was better than 30 List A pacers who bowled in more than 4 matches in that tournament proving that he still lands balls after balls in the same good length areas.



On Aussie wickets we need Tall Bowler who can bowl with control and choke the runs. Ehsan Adil's fitness is poor than 33 years old Asif. None of Imran, Ehsan, Zia etc can choke runs like him and take wickets of top batsman of Opposition Team.


Spot Fixing and Gushtaabay are history now. He has paid heavily for his Crimes. Punishment is over and he is eligible for Selection.


Don't needlessly deprive viewers to see World Class Fast Bowler Once Again and Win Test Matches for Pakistan.


Test Cricket is about Playing your Top 11 Fit Performing Cricketers. Asif never topped Fc charts in his entire life. Why did Bob Woolmer push for his Selection ?

Asif is Fit, his ban is over, he was making mockery of our Test Batsman in NCA nets. Let him breathe Life again.


Also Ali Imran has hit his peak. He needs to come first change against Australia. To Hell with Age blah blah.



[MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] [MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] [MENTION=137992]gunner[/MENTION] [MENTION=139634]Finisher[/MENTION]

POTW!!!

Feels really good reading that, I agree with every word. I hope PCB can look at Asif in the same light because even if Inzi wants and they've made the decision to never allow him to represent pak again I doubt there's anything Asif or the selectors can do. Asif will just have to keep performing and hoping he manages to win the PCB over. With the Test Championship coming up, 2019 WC in England (2 new balls) and tours to AUS he's someone who I'd want to lead my pace battery.

Also you forgot! Glen Mcgrath played until he was 36 or 37 I believe! People just don't realise how respected Asif was when it came to his skill with his ball, I remember looking at magazines here in the UK in 2007 and he was on everyones list as one to watch out for in the WC and the most dangerous threat from Pak line up

 

[gunner]

[MENTION=138980]TalentSpotterPk[/MENTION] Brilliant post! I fully agree with your views. It's my dream to watch both Asif and Amir bowl for Pakistan again. Especial Asif is once in a generation bowler, he holds the record of taking most number of wickets of top order batsmen. Who can match that?

In the on going test series we're struggling to take wickets of even tail enders. Compare that to 2010 tour of England , our batting was failing as usual but the combined effort of Asif-Amir used to bring us back to winning position. I still remember Asif destroying Indian batting line up like they were school kids. He deserves a chance over any other bowler, even over Amir. From what I've heard, PCB wanted him for the English tour but there were serious doubts if he would be granted visa or not so he was dropped. Not sure how true is that but Inzamam seems to be in favor of the trio. If he's not selected for the Australian tour, it would be a major set back.

 

[Junaids]

Australia played Ryan Haris despite knowing that he was 30 plus and prone to injuries. He had 4-5 long lay offs due to knee trouble. Why CA persisted with him ?


Because he whenever he used to play every 2nd or 3rd test he contributed to Australian team in a winning manner.


Test Cricket is all about winning Test Matches. There is no Worldcup. This is the reason Stephen Cook made debut at 33 for SA, Chris Rogers played Test Cricket between the Age of 33 to 37 and Voges 35 to 37-38.


Courtney Walsh & Richard Hadlee 160 to 230 test wickets between the Age of 33 to 39. Hadlee had twice suffered serious knee troubles. Mcgrath also played until 37.


Umar Gul has made a comeback to Odi team despite him being Asif's age fellow. Unlike Asif he has twice had bad knee injuries and once Serious Back Injury.


Sohail Khan is 2 years elder than Asif and he has a history of twice suffering Stress fractures of Back and once he had a groin injury. He has made Test Comeback despite him being prone to severe stiffness issues after 1st Spell.


How many Fc and List A matches Asif has played compared to Anderson & Steyn ? Plus the fact that they have suffered knee & shoulder injuries. How much more wear and tear than Asif ?


Dale Steyn has Bowled 37000 balls in Fc, List A & T20 Cricket, James Anderson has bowled 53000 balls while Asif has only bowled 21000 balls in his Entire Career.


Asif has no history of Knee, Back or Shoulder Injuries.


Asif weights exactly the Same as he did 6 years ago.


A Rawalpindi FC Cricketer told owner of PP that when he played his first list A match it did not look as if he did not play competitive cricket for 6 long years.


How many Test Wickets Asif took at deliveries which were clocked between 78mph to 82 mph ? Probably 65 % of his test wickets. Asif still balls between 78 to 84 mph range.


Asif's Eco Rate in last domestic List A tournament he played was 3.8 which was better than 30 List A pacers who bowled in more than 4 matches in that tournament proving that he still lands balls after balls in the same good length areas.



On Aussie wickets we need Tall Bowler who can bowl with control and choke the runs. Ehsan Adil's fitness is poor than 33 years old Asif. None of Imran, Ehsan, Zia etc can choke runs like him and take wickets of top batsman of Opposition Team.


Spot Fixing and Gushtaabay are history now. He has paid heavily for his Crimes. Punishment is over and he is eligible for Selection.


Don't needlessly deprive viewers to see World Class Fast Bowler Once Again and Win Test Matches for Pakistan.


Test Cricket is about Playing your Top 11 Fit Performing Cricketers. Asif never topped Fc charts in his entire life. Why did Bob Woolmer push for his Selection ?

Asif is Fit, his ban is over, he was making mockery of our Test Batsman in NCA nets. Let him breathe Life again.


Also Ali Imran has hit his peak. He needs to come first change against Australia. To Hell with Age blah blah.



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I totally agree.

He is a fit guy who is the same age as Dale Steyn, but has no history of injuries, five less years of wear and tear on his body and is much less reliant on speed.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

[MENTION=43242]Dr_Bassim[/MENTION]


Fast bowlers Test performances after the Age of 33

 

[gunner]

The absence of Asif and Amir has harmed cricket as there're only a couple of bowlers left (if at all) who can challenge a batsman on batsmen friendly wickets. Apart from Asif can't think of any other bowler in recent times who could trap batsmen and make them look clueless. If he makes a comeback (Inshallah) it would be a great contest to watch I'm looking forward to some of the ATG batsmen getting exposed.

 

[Indiafan]

There is a myth being spread that PCB has been biased against Asif. In fact PCB has been more supporting of Asif than any sporting board has been of any sportsperson in the history of humanity. Let's take a look at what PCB has gone through with Asif, shall we

1)16 October 2006, Asif was suspended by the PCB along with team mate Shoaib Akhtar, and was pulled from the Champions Trophy

The panel had reported to have shown a degree of leniency to Asif as they believe that he did not understand what he was taking and stopped at the request of the physiotherapist. Both Akhtar and Asif appealed against the ban. A second tribunal was formed. On 5 December both were acquitted by the tribunal appointed to review their drug ban appeal. The decision was made two to one with Hasib Ahsan and Justice Fakhruddin Ebrahim in favour of the acquittal. Statement by Justice Ebrahim: "This appeal committee [therefore] holds that Shoaib Akhtar and Mohammad Asif will not be deemed to have committed a doping offence," Ibrahim said. "The ban and punishment imposed by the earlier tribunal is hereby set aside as being contrary to the provision of laws."

Here we see how PCB and the tribunal fought tooth and nail to be lenient on Asif. The excuse used for Asif was he was not much educated and did not know what he was taking. His ban was immediately overturned

2) On 1 March 2007, Akhtar and Asif were ruled out of the Pakistani squad for the 2007 Cricket World Cup by team officials, minutes before the squad was to depart for the West Indies.

Here we see how PCB again protected Asif from getting caught and quickly removed him from squad without much publicity. Officials admitted they were afraid Asif and Akhtar would get caught if tested

3) On 1 June 2008, Asif was detained at Dubai International Airport on suspicion of possessing illegal drugs

. The PCB appointed a legal counsel to represent Asif, and sent a senior board official to Dubai to handle the case.[39] Asif was withdrawn from Pakistan's squad for the upcoming tri-series in Bangladesh and replaced by newcomer Sohail Khan.[40]

On 19 June 2008, the charges against Asif were dropped by the Dubai public prosecutor due to "insignificance." The prosecutor, Mohammad Al Nuaimi, was quoted as saying, "It is definite that he committed the crime as he was caught red-handed ... however in certain cases and for a faster litigation process the Public Prosecution drops a case due to insignificance and deports the suspect."He was banned from entering UAE ever again.[41] Asif returned to Pakistan the following day and thanked those who had aided his release,

As we see again, PCB helped him every inch of the way. From assigning legal authorities to contacting the government of Pakistan, they did everything in their means to make sure he escapes. They dropped him from the next series but imposed no punishment on him on disciplinary grounds.

4) In July 2008, soon after his return to Pakistan from Dubai, the IPL revealed that a player had tested positive for banned substances during the tournament and on 14 July, it was revealed that the player in question was Asif.

Asif protested his innocence,[44] and his lawyer announced that his 'B' sample would be analysed as per WADA regulations, and he was later suspended from all cricket indefinitely by the PCB. He does have the right to appeal his suspension. On 11 February 2009, the IPL confirmed that Asif had tested positive for steroids and subsequently imposed a one-year ban on him, ending on 21 September 2009.[45] Shortly before the IPL's announcement, Muhammad Asif was released of his contract by the Delhi DareDevils.

IPL team released him and PCB initially suspended him. However, they soon removed this suspension and once again Asif escaped with zero punishment. PCB did everything they could to help him

5) September 7 2007 - Asif was involved in an altercation with Akhtar and Afridi

PCB completely took Asif's side over the veteran Akhtar. Akhtar was immediately sent back home while there was no punishment involved for Asif.

6) In August 2010, the English Sunday newspaper News of the World published allegations that Asif and fellow bowler Mohammad Amir had deliberately bowled no-balls during Pakistan's 2010 tour of England in return for payment from a betting syndicate, a practice known as spot-fixing.


This was the final straw. This is how Asif repayed all the trust and help PCB had provided him with. People blame Butt as the ring leader but there is no way Amir would have gone ahead if a senior bowler was not involved. That puts more peer pressure on him. He would have been too scared to act alone but if a senior bowler does it, he would have thought it was ok and he will not be caught

At what point does the sunk cost fallacy kick in? After given 5 chances (where people don't even get one chance in the international team), he brought shame to the team and country every time. I do not understand the logic of those who still support his comeback. Is winning or doing better in 4-5 series really worth it? He is no superman who will win series on his own. I can understand investing in Amir as he is the future. But how many series will Asif play in after this and will it be worth after everything he has put Pakistan through? Why would any board back such a player who has stabbed them in the back multiple times? And what guarantee is there that someone who offended so many times will still not offend? After all, his legacy is already tarnished (unlike Amir) and he has nothing to lose and just needs money at this point?

 

[#GreenRoars]

Sure.

After you tell me what good would Asif do at the young age of 22.

People prepare teams for the future, we are interested in reviving the career of a 30 plus person.

Never understand folks.

Spot on. You can't know his fitness, performances, un less he plays his domestic 4 days matches or 5 days. 4 overs of T20s in abc league with one wicket doesn't deserve a Test recall.

And then we cry about our selectors that they dont select team on merit, they have brought back Umar Gul with out any good performances and bla bla bla.

Guess, standards should be same for every one.

 

[#GreenRoars]

POTW!!!

Feels really good reading that, I agree with every word. I hope PCB can look at Asif in the same light because even if Inzi wants and they've made the decision to never allow him to represent pak again I doubt there's anything Asif or the selectors can do. Asif will just have to keep performing and hoping he manages to win the PCB over. With the Test Championship coming up, 2019 WC in England (2 new balls) and tours to AUS he's someone who I'd want to lead my pace battery.

Also you forgot! Glen Mcgrath played until he was 36 or 37 I believe! People just don't realise how respected Asif was when it came to his skill with his ball, I remember looking at magazines here in the UK in 2007 and he was on everyones list as one to watch out for in the WC and the most dangerous threat from Pak line up

This is the key, if he can perform better than other bowlers then there should not be any problem. But what if he don't perform better than other bowlers? deserve a recall on the basis of his 6 years old reputation??

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Spot on. You can't know his fitness, performances, un less he playes his domestic 4 days matches or 5 days. 4 overs of T20s in abc league with one wicket doesn't deserve a Test recall.

And then we cry about our selectors that they dont select team on merit, they have brought back Umar Gul with out any good performances and bla bla bla.

Guess, standards should be same for every one.

6-7 Fc matches of QEA will be played before we visit Australia for Test Matches.


Even 3-6 Qea inter region qualifying round matches will be played before Qea trophy begins.



Asif will be back. He needs not to top domestic charts to be picked. He just needs discipline attitude clearance from PCB. When Bob picked him he had taken 28 Fc wickets that season and 15 pacers took more wickets than him with Shahid Nazir 52 being top wicket getters.


Mickey will also judge his bowling quality rather than going into number games.


Tall Accurate Pacers needed in Australia. Asif will be back.


Read the list i posted above which mentions number of test wickets pacers took after the age of 33.

 

[#GreenRoars]

6-7 Fc matches of QEA will be played before we visit Australia for Test Matches.


Even 3-6 Qea inter region qualifying round matches will be played before Qea trophy begins.



Asif will be back. He needs not to top domestic charts to be picked. He just needs discipline attitude clearance from PCB. When Bob picked him he had taken 28 Fc wickets that season and 15 pacers took more wickets than him with Shahid Nazir 52 being top wicket getters.


Mickey will also judge his bowling quality rather than going into number games.


Tall Accurate Pacers needed in Australia. Asif will be back.


Read the list i posted above which mentions number of test wickets pacers took after the age of 33.

Did i talk about age? NO, so dont feed me with this age stuff, i am not interested in any one's age. I consider it's a childish thing to bring some one's age, if a player is performing, he should play irrespective of his age.

Yes, QEA matches will be played and Asif will also be playing, so hope it will give us a better picture where he stands.

And heck yes, i want our selectors to judge his bowling quality, rather than his numbers. Numbers can be deceiving

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

This is the key, if he can perform better than other bowlers then there should not be any problem. But what if he don't perform better than other bowlers? deserve a recall on the basis of his 6 years old reputation??

Find Asif in this List.

What was his number in terms of Average and number of wickets ? Inferior than 15 Pacers ?


Yet Bob Woolmer & Inzamam ul Haq picked him. Than clearly Inzamam and Bob were selectors while selection committee was shadow selection committee.


Asif & Butt should have been allowed to play QEA trophy last season.

Asif showed his class in National One Day Cup. Eco of 3.8 in 5-6 matches shows his accuracy.


If Pcb clears him for selection which they have to than Inzamam will pick him surely as We do not have any Right Arm pacer in Pakistan of any age who is better than Asif. Test Cricket is about firlding your 11 best players expecting them to win test matches for you. No WC planning.


I hope Ali Imran destroys batting lineups in QEA which he would inshaAllah if he remains fit. He would than be first change bowler after Asif & Amir and Butt 2nd change


Wahab/Rahat/Hasan on bench.


Hasan's best bet in Test Cricket with 5'9 height would have been England. In Australia Tall pacers succeed or those who are fast with Ave Speed of 88+mph in first two spells. Johnson Starc Wahab

 

[Indian_Supporter]

The day when and if Asif is back for national team...it will indeed be a day of shame for world cricket.

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[gunner]

Lol seems Asif 's match winning 4 for 78 is still haunting neigbors. Whining and moral posturing doesn't help anyone it's nonsensical attitude better prepare yourself before the storm hits. Like it or not Asif is going to be back.

 

[#GreenRoars]

Find Asif in this List.

What was his number in terms of Average and number of wickets ? Inferior than 15 Pacers ?


Yet Bob Woolmer & Inzamam ul Haq picked him. Than clearly Inzamam and Bob were selectors while selection committee was shadow selection committee.


Asif & Butt should have been allowed to play QEA trophy last season.

Asif showed his class in National One Day Cup. Eco of 3.8 in 5-6 matches shows his accuracy.


If Pcb clears him for selection which they have to than Inzamam will pick him surely as We do not have any Right Arm pacer in Pakistan of any age who is better than Asif. Test Cricket is about firlding your 11 best players expecting them to win test matches for you. No WC planning.


I hope Ali Imran destroys batting lineups in QEA which he would inshaAllah if he remains fit. He would than be first change bowler after Asif & Amir and Butt 2nd change


Wahab/Rahat/Hasan on bench.


Hasan's best bet in Test Cricket with 5'9 height would have been England. In Australia Tall pacers succeed or those who are fast with Ave Speed of 88+mph in first two spells. Johnson Starc Wahab

You are again saying and saying those things which i already know, i already know what happened in 004 and 05. But the reality is, it was a decade ago. Right? We need to see how he is NOW.

 

[Indiafan]

Lol seems Asif 's match winning 4 for 78 is still haunting neigbors. Whining and moral posturing doesn't help anyone it's nonsensical attitude better prepare yourself before the storm hits. Like it or not Asif is going to be back.

Oh believe me, I would love, love, love that you have someone like Asif in the team. If some 4 for 78 in a bilateral series is the cost of losing every world cup match and making sure players are banned and team is demoralised for years, what more could an opponent want?

Believe me, when Asif was pardoned for the first time, I said this will cost Pakistan. Then people replied with pics of Sachin getting bowled. Asif came back and took Amir with him and Amir lost 5 years. My liking or not liking has nothing to do with what this is going to cost Pakistan in the long run but then taking short term decisions with no eye on the long term has been PCB's speciality

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Lol seems Asif 's match winning 4 for 78 is still haunting neigbors. Whining and moral posturing doesn't help anyone it's nonsensical attitude better prepare yourself before the storm hits. Like it or not Asif is going to be back.

Bhaee ko Urhtay Killay Hazam nai horahay ab takk

Baaqi sub Daastaanein hein

 

[gunner]

[MENTION=3327]Indiafan[/MENTION] yada yada rona pitna aur bongiyan maarna band karo apnay rockstars ki khair manao big daddy is gonna eat 'em

 

[gunner]

Bhaee ko Urhtay Killay Hazam nai horahay ab takk

Baaqi sub Daastaanein hein

haha bilkul sahi. Bhaee ki team ke liye I'll say 'bakray ki maa kab tak khair manaye gi'

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

haha bilkul sahi. Bhaee ki team ke liye I'll say 'bakray ki maa kab tak khair manaye gi'

Asif is playing for the team named Band e Amir


Once again accurate miserly spell that too in his weakest format



Band e Amir won by margin of only 4 runs.



Come on Asif Boy get inspired from Anderson, Steyn, McGrath, Walsh, Ambrose & Hadlee.


Retribution time.

 

[New Yorker]

Oh believe me, I would love, love, love that you have someone like Asif in the team. If some 4 for 78 in a bilateral series is the cost of losing every world cup match and making sure players are banned and team is demoralised for years, what more could an opponent want?

Believe me, when Asif was pardoned for the first time, I said this will cost Pakistan. Then people replied with pics of Sachin getting bowled. Asif came back and took Amir with him and Amir lost 5 years. My liking or not liking has nothing to do with what this is going to cost Pakistan in the long run but then taking short term decisions with no eye on the long term has been PCB's speciality

Butt took Amir with him, not Asif.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Australia played Ryan Haris despite knowing that he was 30 plus and prone to injuries. He had 4-5 long lay offs due to knee trouble. Why CA persisted with him ?


Because he whenever he used to play every 2nd or 3rd test he contributed to Australian team in a winning manner.


Test Cricket is all about winning Test Matches. There is no Worldcup. This is the reason Stephen Cook made debut at 33 for SA, Chris Rogers played Test Cricket between the Age of 33 to 37 and Voges 35 to 37-38.


Courtney Walsh & Richard Hadlee 160 to 230 test wickets between the Age of 33 to 39. Hadlee had twice suffered serious knee troubles. Mcgrath also played until 37.


Umar Gul has made a comeback to Odi team despite him being Asif's age fellow. Unlike Asif he has twice had bad knee injuries and once Serious Back Injury.


Sohail Khan is 2 years elder than Asif and he has a history of twice suffering Stress fractures of Back and once he had a groin injury. He has made Test Comeback despite him being prone to severe stiffness issues after 1st Spell.


How many Fc and List A matches Asif has played compared to Anderson & Steyn ? Plus the fact that they have suffered knee & shoulder injuries. How much more wear and tear than Asif ?


Dale Steyn has Bowled 37000 balls in Fc, List A & T20 Cricket, James Anderson has bowled 53000 balls while Asif has only bowled 21000 balls in his Entire Career.


Asif has no history of Knee, Back or Shoulder Injuries.


Asif weights exactly the Same as he did 6 years ago.


A Rawalpindi FC Cricketer told owner of PP that when he played his first list A match it did not look as if he did not play competitive cricket for 6 long years.


How many Test Wickets Asif took at deliveries which were clocked between 78mph to 82 mph ? Probably 65 % of his test wickets. Asif still balls between 78 to 84 mph range.


Asif's Eco Rate in last domestic List A tournament he played was 3.8 which was better than 30 List A pacers who bowled in more than 4 matches in that tournament proving that he still lands balls after balls in the same good length areas.



On Aussie wickets we need Tall Bowler who can bowl with control and choke the runs. Ehsan Adil's fitness is poor than 33 years old Asif. None of Imran, Ehsan, Zia etc can choke runs like him and take wickets of top batsman of Opposition Team.


Spot Fixing and Gushtaabay are history now. He has paid heavily for his Crimes. Punishment is over and he is eligible for Selection.


Don't needlessly deprive viewers to see World Class Fast Bowler Once Again and Win Test Matches for Pakistan.


Test Cricket is about Playing your Top 11 Fit Performing Cricketers. Asif never topped Fc charts in his entire life. Why did Bob Woolmer push for his Selection ?

Asif is Fit, his ban is over, he was making mockery of our Test Batsman in NCA nets. Let him breathe Life again.


Also Ali Imran has hit his peak. He needs to come first change against Australia. To Hell with Age blah blah.



[MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] [MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] [MENTION=137992]gunner[/MENTION] [MENTION=139634]Finisher[/MENTION]

Told You Many Times.


Such bowler's are born once in a Lifetime.


Still the best Right Arm 4 day pacer in Pakistan Cricket Setup aswell as World Cricket. (No Match)


Such bowler's do not die until age 40 - 42 unless they get serious injury.


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[TalentSpotterPk]

You Need an " Eye "

Mohammad Asif has been busy "making fools of the best batsmen in the country" in the nets at the NCA in Lahore.


Nothing has changed in last 19 months. The Fish at 35 is swimming as usual.


Bowlers like Walsh, Hadlee & Asif can play Test cricket until age 40 with Ease.


Asif is a Must for Pakistan Test tour of South Africa & England. Can make history along with Amir, Hasan & Waqas Ahmed on these tours.


Now He has taken 4 fivefers in 5 FC matches including a Tenfer. On a 3rd innings wicket with 35 years old legs Asif has taken 6-23.



Haters, Angels and Hypocrites keep hating. My Boy (35 only) is Ruling.





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[Junaids]

I admit, I can’t see how he can be ignored.

 

[ManFan]

I admit, I can’t see how he can be ignored.

Easy. " He will disrupt the acha-bachas of the team " and get them hooked on hashish to become assassins ". The usual mantra which would result in a 2-0 and 3-0 loss in ENG and SA, respectively.