Floyd Mayweather 50-0, an all-time great and the best of his generation

[shaz619]

Goes past Marciano ! Incredible feat and has had one hell of a career! This is probably it, end of an era as the legend bows out. What a pleasure it has been following his career, Floyd has been a gift for the Boxing world and he has left a big void with his retirement.

 

[shaz619]

Impossible to exclude him in your all time great top 10 P4P list

 

[shaz619]

50 tried and failed, he has beaten them all; hall of fame fighters could not solve the Floyd Mayweather puzzle. Outstanding fighter, he made his debut in 1996 and ever since has been on top; once in a generation talent and we never see another defensive maestero on his level but also recall that the man can turn it up to, first half of his career was a KO artist before fighting defensively to prolong his career

 

[shaz619]

[MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] [MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION] [MENTION=396]mani1[/MENTION] [MENTION=142288]TQ89[/MENTION] What is your favourite Floyd fight and victory?

 

[TQ89]

I have never been a Floyd fan to be honest.Not that i don't respect his talent just that he played too safe, ducked way too much for a guy of his calibre and lastly am a pacman guy.

He ducked pacman since i have started following boxing (2009). For six years, i heard him proclaiming himself as greatest while never having the guts to fight pacman. You should listen to some of his interviews where he came out with steroid allegations and would put strange conditions to be met by pacman's camp if they wanted him to fight. It took him six years to face pacman and that too after pacman was on a downhill. I can assure if manny wouldnt have lost those fights, floyd would never have agreed for megafight and would weasel out as always

 

[shaz619]

I have never been a Floyd fan to be honest.Not that i don't respect his talent just that he played too safe, ducked way too much for a guy of his calibre and lastly am a pacman guy.

He ducked pacman since i have started following boxing (2009). For six years, i heard him proclaiming himself as greatest while never having the guts to fight pacman. You should listen to some of his interviews where he came out with steroid allegations and would put strange conditions to be met by pacman's camp if they wanted him to fight. It took him six years to face pacman and that too after pacman was on a downhill. I can assure if manny wouldnt have lost those fights, floyd would never have agreed for megafight and would weasel out as always

In 2009 Manny never took the blood test and strangely as testing in our sport improved his KO ratio declined, when was his last stoppage? Furthermore, assuming that was a duck he beat him in 2015 and he beats the one in 2009 to.

Furthermore what other fighters has Floyd ducked or 'weasel'd' his way out off ?

 

[mani1]

[MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] [MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION] [MENTION=396]mani1[/MENTION] [MENTION=142288]TQ89[/MENTION] What is your favourite Floyd fight and victory?

Probably against Cotto. But enjoyed it when he knocked Hatton out.

As for floyd be a top 10 atg I don't see him any where near simply because he reigned in a very weak era.

His best win is probably Corallas compared to guys like SRL who has beaten prime atg after atg

 

[shaz619]

Probably against Cotto. But enjoyed it when he knocked Hatton out.

As for floyd be a top 10 atg I don't see him any where near simply because he reigned in a very weak era.

His best win is probably Corallas compared to guys like SRL who has beaten prime atg after atg

He can only beat what is put before him, but which elite fighters which Floyd has beaten would you deem weak in the era and whom you rate higher from the past? And what is your top 10, who is in the 10th position which you favour ahead of Floyd

 

[shaz619]

Also the only duck which I agree with is Amir Khan, whom he had the chance to face on two occasions when it made sense but he didn't, Khan I believe may also have been a mandatory at one point. Any other ducks, then people have to point them out but the Manny one don't count because he has been beaten

 

[shaz619]

Am not a big Floyd fan myself and most posters would know that, but denying his greatness is very tough

 

[UN talkz]

Honestly speaking I was supporting McGregor but it was a complete mismatch.
Mayweather is the greatest but Gregor man i still love and support u.

 

[mani1]

He can only beat what is put before him, but which elite fighters which Floyd has beaten would you deem weak in the era and whom you rate higher from the past? And what is your top 10, who is in the 10th position which you favour ahead of Floyd

Not really Floyd "retired" after Oscar Paul Williams Margarito Prime Mosely Cotto Pac amongst many many more.

Do you consider Marciano as top 10 atg?

Hearns Duran Leanord whitaker these are just recent guys around the weight classes. I would also have Pac higher than h in the atg list he has beaten Barerra Moralles and Marquez a fresher Cotto whom is one of Floyds better wins.

 

[shaz619]

Not really Floyd "retired" after Oscar Paul Williams Margarito Prime Mosely Cotto Pac amongst many many more.

Do you consider Marciano as top 10 atg?

Hearns Duran Leanord whitaker these are just recent guys around the weight classes.

Yes really, people overlook the fact that no one ever debates Floyd's 'prime' years because he's always winning but if he beats elite names then they all had faded, practically speaking the older you get you lose your prowess in the ring but Floyd to sustain his longevity in the ring Floyd has been dominating elite fighters as an old man; not his fault the others could not make the necessary adjustments despite having youth on their side or having excess wear/tear due to poor in ring IQ

You can certainly make a case for Marciano, none of those fighters are undefeated and all of them would struggle to land the leather on Floyd.

 

[mani1]

Yes really, people overlook the fact that no one ever debates Floyd's 'prime' years because he's always winning but if he beats elite names then they all had faded, practically speaking the older you get you lose your prowess in the ring but Floyd to sustain his longevity in the ring Floyd has been dominating elite fighters as an old man; not his fault the others could not make the necessary adjustments despite having youth on their side or having excess wear/tear due to poor in ring IQ

You can certainly make a case for Marciano, none of those fighters are undefeated and all of them would struggle to land the leather on Floyd.

Floyd got Hussled by Castillo thought he clearly lost. Imagin what Chavez would have done to him. Chavez was almost 100-0 at one time. Maidana was unlicky to not get at least a draw in the 1st fight.I would rven favour Prime Oscar and Trinadad Forrest the version that battered p4p no 1 Shane Mosely around the ring to give Floyd hell

Ricardo Lopez as well as Calzaghe and otke were undefeated too. I rate ppl higher on the list due to whom they beat and how close to there primes they were.

 

[shaz619]

Floyd got Hussled by Castillo thought he clearly lost. Imagin what Chavez would have done to him. Chavez was almost 100-0 at one time. Maidana was unlicky to not get at least a draw in the 1st fight.I would rven favour Prime Oscar and Trinadad Forrest the version that battered p4p no 1 Shane Mosely around the ring to give Floyd hell

They were was close but Castillo/Maidana were both destroyed in the rematch. Floyd must have been past his prime to when he defeated Oscar, you tend to decline in your 30s as a fighter and he destroyed Mosely to; past his prime. He would toy with Chavez and Trinadad

 

[mani1]

They were was close but Castillo/Maidana were both destroyed in the rematch. Floyd must have been past his prime to when he defeated Oscar, you tend to decline in your 30s as a fighter and he destroyed Mosely to; past his prime. He would toy with Chavez and Trinadad

A shot coked up whitaker gave prime Oscar hell. Floyd at 30 in 2007 strugled with a shot Oscar.

Trinadad was knocking out middleweiggts and only lost to atg mw Hopkins.

 

[shaz619]

A shot coked up whitaker gave prime Oscar hell. Floyd at 30 in 2007 strugled with a shot Oscar.

Oscar was still a world champion and Mayweather was past his prime you see, perhaps he would have dominated had he been in his prime. Floyd has been shot since 2005 when the KO ratio dried up, but has still managed to beat the best due to his superior in-ring IQ

 

[mani1]

Oscar was still a world champion and Mayweather was past his prime you see, perhaps he would have dominated had he been in his prime. Floyd has been shot since 2005 when the KO ratio dried up, but has still managed to beat the best due to his superior in-ring IQ

Floyd was shot at 30?

His KOs dried up because he fought bigger guys and took less risks.

 

[shaz619]

Floyd was shot at 30?

His KOs dried up because he fought bigger guys and took less risks.

Easily, his KO ratio is evidence also due to the wear and tear on his body which is expected when you press for KO's constantly. He has dethroned world champions despite that, which were less risks he took ? he fought and beat the best in and around his division at the time

 

[mani1]

Oscar was still a world champion and Mayweather was past his prime you see, perhaps he would have dominated had he been in his prime. Floyd has been shot since 2005 when the KO ratio dried up, but has still managed to beat the best due to his superior in-ring IQ

Oscar became "champ" by beating punch bag Mayorga

 

[mani1]

Easily, his KO ratio is evidence also due to the wear and tear on his body which is expected when you press for KO's constantly. He has dethroned world champions despite that, which were less risks he took ?

Watch how he fought at 130 till he in my opinion got a gift against Castillo and then watch how he fought the rematch and after.

 

[shaz619]

Oscar became "champ" by beating punch bag Mayorga

Watch how he fought at 130 till he in my opinion got a gift against Castillo and then watch how he fought the rematch and after.

He was still world champion, it's a status you respect and Oscar is a high calibre fighter. I thought he beat him convincingly in the rematch, anyhow I agree during his prime that's probably the only blemish.

 

[mani1]

He was still world champion, it's a status you respect and Oscar is a high calibre fighter. I thought he beat him convincingly in the rematch, anyhow I agree during his prime that's probably the only blemish.

Not when there are four "Champs" and then regular champs etc etc I mean gatekeeper Broner is a 4 weight "Champ"

As is Guerroro I think don't quote me on it though.

 

[shaz619]

Not when there are four "Champs" and then regular champs etc etc I mean gatekeeper Broner is a 4 weight "Champ"

As is Guerroro I think don't quote me on it though.

Yeah I agree with that but it's not like Oscar was some bum to be honest and Broner was quality at one point, he's a completely different fighter now

 

[in_cutter]

Guy is a BEAST. I don't really like his whole demeanour but is a legend no doubt.

 

[mani1]

Yeah I agree with that but it's not like Oscar was some bum to be honest and Broner was quality at one point, he's a completely different fighter now

Coincidentally Oscar in his next fight got his orbital bone smashed by Forbes but didn't quit.

As for Broner I disagree he got gifts against Quintero and Ponce. He did though look good against much much smaller brawlers though.

 

[Bewal Express]

He is an amazingly skilled fighter but as neutral i find him boring to watch.

 

[mani1]

Guy is a BEAST. I don't really like his whole demeanour but is a legend no doubt.

I agree though no where near TBE or even top ten atg. Only at 130 he has a case at being tbe but I would favour Ageuro or even Chavez over him.

 

[shaz619]

I agree though no where near TBE or even top ten atg. Only at 130 he has a case at being tbe but I would favour Ageuro or even Chavez over him.

I don't think he's TBE either but I find it difficult not to put him him my top 10 in the 10th position, he's not a very likeable dude and that rubs people the wrong way understandably because he likes to beat women and not pay tax etc but he's an outstanding fighter. People say he ducked x,y,z the only real duck was Amir Khan, then they say he beat faded fighters that were not in their prime without realising that his prime ended in 2005/06 and as an active boxer the guys whom he did defeat were still either lineal or world champions rated in Ring Magazine's top 5 at the very least in the division.

 

[shaz619]

[MENTION=396]mani1[/MENTION] if he's not in your top 10 then where do you rank him overall ?

 

[shaz619]

He is an amazingly skilled fighter but as neutral i find him boring to watch.

I think you'd find him more entertaining between 1996-2004/05, after that he changed his style with a more defensive approach to prolong his career because his body was banged up with excess wear and tear from being Knock Out artist because you tend to take more punishment when you're aggressive.

 

[mani1]

[MENTION=396]mani1[/MENTION] if he's not in your top 10 then where do you rank him overall ?

I dont really do rankings I have Ali, Roy Jones, Ray robinson, Ray Leanord, Whitaker, Duran, Hearns, Holyfield, Pac ,Henry Armstrong and many many more ahead of him

And Yes I have seen them ancient fighter fight I have the Deagostini's boxers the undisputed collection.

I also don't rate being undefeated as a big deal as Sven Otke, Finito Lopez, Calzaghe etc were too as was Ike the heavy weight whom had a war with Tua.

Coincidentally what is your top 10?

 

[mani1]

[MENTION=29064]shaz[/MENTION] I also find it hard to rate a fighter so high in the list whom best win over a prime fighter was Corrales or Hatton. When Others have beaten atg in there prime

 

[shaz619]

I don't rate Floyd just for the sake of being undefeated but because of the quality of his opponents as well which is why his 50-0 is a lot more impressive then Calzaghe's resume.

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Chavez
4. Duran
5. Roy Jones Jr
6. Mike Tyson
7. Hearns
8. Naseem Hamed
9. Pac-Man
10. Floyd Mayweather

But you're right it is tough to do these P4P lists, it's a lot easier to do it by weight class

 

[shaz619]

[MENTION=29064]shaz[/MENTION] I also find it hard to rate a fighter so high in the list whom best win over a prime fighter was Corrales or Hatton. When Others have beaten atg in there prime

Floyd beat the best available in his division and like I said before his own prime ended in 2005, but it's overlooked because of his defensive genius. Anyhow Floyd beats the best version of Manny, the best version of Moseley and the best version of Cotto regardless for me but he still has these wins on his record, folk may not rate them but a lot of these names were still the best in the division or world champion; plus he could have declined with age but made the necessary adjustments but that's not say it was his peak, he's been in the sport a long time. Also, I had Cotto beat Alvarez but he was screwed imo

 

[MMHS]

Really impressed with McGregor - lasted 10 rounds. I was expecting a KO with in 3 rounds; must be happy with his pay day ............

 

[Leo23]

don't know much about boxing but is mayweather better than the likes of tyson and muhammad ali??
[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION]

 

[shaz619]

don't know much about boxing but is mayweather better than the likes of tyson and muhammad ali??

[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION]

Tyson and Ali are both in a different division, those two are Heavyweights so can't really compare them with Floyd Mayweather but if we just look at their boxing careers pound for pound then for me I'd say that Tyson and Ali are better, you could probably make a case for Floyd having a better career then Tyson did though but not Muhammad Ali

 

[MMHS]

I don't rate Floyd just for the sake of being undefeated but because of the quality of his opponents as well which is why his 50-0 is a lot more impressive then Calzaghe's resume.

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Chavez
4. Duran
5. Roy Jones Jr
6. Mike Tyson
7. Hearns
8. Naseem Hamed
9. Pac-Man
10. Floyd Mayweather

But you're right it is tough to do these P4P lists, it's a lot easier to do it by weight class

No Sugar Ray Leonard, Joe Luis, Jo Frazier, Jack Dempsey, Rockey Marciano? It's really tough, but seems you rate Hameed & Hernes too high. If Roberto Duran is there so high, SR Leonard should make top 10, but don't know whom to drop.

More or less, first 2 spots are unanimous but on individual peak, I'll say no one ever reached the level of Ali between 1965-67; that fight at Huston Astrodome (Cleveland Williams?) was probably the most perfect fight I have ever seen. Do you really think at their prime, Tyson can beat Frazier? Might knock him out once, but in 3 match replay, would he win 2?

 

[kingusama92]

Great boxer but never enjoyed his approach in the latter half of his career.

 

[Amoham11]

Still 49-0 .. he needs to fight a proper boxer and not in a circus ring.. I would not call this a 50th achievement just a spectacle and a joke... feel sorry for real boxers, can you imagine McGregor with winning? Boxing would be full stop.

 

[ToeCrusher2]

Still 49-0 .. he needs to fight a proper boxer and not in a circus ring.. I would not call this a 50th achievement just a spectacle and a joke... feel sorry for real boxers, can you imagine McGregor with winning? Boxing would be full stop.

This, his 50th win was a joke. But still an All Time Great Boxer and the best of his generation.

 

[shaz619]

No Sugar Ray Leonard, Joe Luis, Jo Frazier, Jack Dempsey, Rockey Marciano? It's really tough, but seems you rate Hameed & Hernes too high. If Roberto Duran is there so high, SR Leonard should make top 10, but don't know whom to drop.

More or less, first 2 spots are unanimous but on individual peak, I'll say no one ever reached the level of Ali between 1965-67; that fight at Huston Astrodome (Cleveland Williams?) was probably the most perfect fight I have ever seen. Do you really think at their prime, Tyson can beat Frazier? Might knock him out once, but in 3 match replay, would he win 2?

List is a combination of my favourites and the fighters I deem the best, wouldn't argue if Dempsey, Marciano, Leonard, Armstrong, Pep etc were in anyone's top 10. But in my list you could probably take out Nas, Tyson and maybe Herns to; I personally rate Nas as the greatest featherweight in history that's how he got in and also based on his influence on the lower divisions and the generation he inspired that came after him although you could replace him with Pep.

Yeah many people don't realise that Ali had lost 3-4 years of his peak when he beat Foreman which is why that win is rated so highly, but from a purely performance and technical stand point he was at his best against Cleveland Williams.

Tyson's career was that of two phases, one under Cus D'amato and Kevin Rooney, then the second phase under... his own demons. Tyson at his peak was invincible despite being handicaped as a HW by his lack of height he made incredible use of Cus D'amato's peak a boo style which revolves around placing your hands in front of your face, improving your protection with the forearms in front of the face and the fist at nose-eye level whilst Tyson moved his head side to side, bobbing, weaving and blind siding his opponents with counters. During this period Tyson was invincible and undefeated then in 1988 (prior to the Douglas defeat) many of his problems outside the ring were starting to come to light, for one his marriage to Robin Givens was heading for divorce, he was abusing various substances, did not train properly and it all culminated in one of his greatest mistakes in allowing Don Satan King and Bill Bagarut Cayton to buy out his contract; these mentally inept fools were instrumental in getting Kevin Rooney fired who was instrumental in honing Tyson's craft and Peek-a-Boo style; when he was fired Tyson was no longer effective, he completely dropped the peek a boo style, there was zero head movement and he relied mostly on his freakish power to win fights because never go into the ring with a proper training camp behind him or game plan, his only goal would be to make weight so he wouldn't lose his title on the scales and get paid. It all would culminate in that defeat to Douglas who should have been counted out in the 8th round were it not for incompetent reffing.

Then in the 90's the less said the better, the issues I point out in 1988 would be magnified x10 and he was past his prime anyway but given his raw talent, still managed to win the undisputed HW Championship. So 3 times out of 3 Frazier beats the Tyson from 1988 and 1990's, but at the very least 2 times out of 3 the Tyson from 85-87 beats Frazier in my opinion. Floyd Patterson also deserves a shout to when it comes to all time great HW's would easily make a top 20 HW list, he was another student of Cus's Peek-a-Boo style and remains the youngest undisputed HW champion in history.

 

[KingKhanWC]

One of the all time greats and technically one of the best ever. Floyd's marketing has often took the light off his incredible training. Floyd doesnt really let in cameras when he's sparring but only to show a few minutes on a bag or speedball. Hard work and dedictation was really more than a saying, it was his moto which made him so successful not forgetting the incredible talent.

The end of his career was very disappointing ,fighting Maidana twice, Berto and then the farce against McGregor but before this , he fought some great fighters and made most of them look like mugs.

 

[shaz619]

One of the all time greats and technically one of the best ever. Floyd's marketing has often took the light off his incredible training. Floyd doesnt really let in cameras when he's sparring but only to show a few minutes on a bag or speedball. Hard work and dedictation was really more than a saying, it was his moto which made him so successful not forgetting the incredible talent.

The end of his career was very disappointing ,fighting Maidana twice, Berto and then the farce against McGregor but before this , he fought some great fighters and made most of them look like mugs.

I didn't mind him facing maidana twice because the first encounter was close, el chino earned the rematch. Agreed, Berto was pointless would have liked to see him face Khan instead but when you're Floyd and command record breaking numbers even against non boxer's you"ll take low risk high reward fights here and there but overall his resume is outstanding and like you say he made great fighters look very ordinary

 

[KingKhanWC]

I didn't mind him facing maidana twice because the first encounter was close, el chino earned the rematch. Agreed, Berto was pointless would have liked to see him face Khan instead but when you're Floyd and command record breaking numbers even against non boxer's you"ll take low risk high reward fights here and there but overall his resume is outstanding and like you say he made great fighters look very ordinary

Maidana did deserve a re-match but it was pretty certain Floyd would win again and with so many other opponents to choose from I would have liked to see him face someone was had speed like Khan. Business wise sure he is smart but that's his money not mine or yours. From a fans perspective if im bored and want to watch old fights, rarely I type in Floyd in to youtube, it's always either the Prince, Ali, Tyson, Khan, Gatti or any Mexican etc..

In terms of excellence a true legend , in terms of entertainment not even in the top 30 for me.

 

[shaz619]

Maidana did deserve a re-match but it was pretty certain Floyd would win again and with so many other opponents to choose from I would have liked to see him face someone was had speed like Khan. Business wise sure he is smart but that's his money not mine or yours. From a fans perspective if im bored and want to watch old fights, rarely I type in Floyd in to youtube, it's always either the Prince, Ali, Tyson, Khan, Gatti or any Mexican etc..

In terms of excellence a true legend , in terms of entertainment not even in the top 30 for me.

Thing with Floyd is he is almost certain to win every fight but he gets criticised regardless, the odds weren't as wide compared to the first fight but it was still an intriguing bout. At the end of the day Floyd is also a spectacle individually and that's not necessarily due to his style but his invincibility and fans pay to see him regardless which is why he's probably worth half a billion now. Yeah not very entertaining post 2005 barring the fights with Oscar, Cotto , Hatton and Maidana. Was a lot more enjoyable to watch during his prime against the likes of Gatti, Coralles, Chavez and Hernandez

 

[SL_Fan]

What has always been impressive about Mayweather is how he's able to just absorb all the pressure like it’s nothing. An absolute machine.

 

[Justcrazy]

Ali was the greatest , and will remain so.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Just doesn't get the credit he deserves imo. However it's hard to compare across eras imo.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Still a cherry picker.

 

[shaz619]

50 - 0

 

[sweep_shot]

Floyd Mayweather v Logan Paul: Undefeated legend to take on Youtuber in 'exhibition'

Floyd Mayweather, the former five-weight boxing world champion, has announced he will take on Youtuber Logan Paul in a "special exhibition" fight in February 2021.

American Mayweather, 43, ended his career unbeaten in 50 bouts.

He last fought in 2017, beating MMA star Conor McGregor in one of the richest bouts in boxing history.

Paul, 25, has fought once professionally, losing to fellow Youtuber KSI in November 2019.

There has been speculation the fight would be agreed for several months and American Paul, who has more than 22 million subscribers on Youtube, has taunted Mayweather on several occasions, with the pair exchanging insults on social media.

Last week, Logan's younger brother Jake, also a famous influencer, fought on the bill of the Mike Tyson v Roy Jones Jr exhibition in Los Angeles, knocking out former NBA player Nate Robinson.

The fight, which will take place on 20 February and is likely to draw huge pay-per-view numbers, is the latest chance for Mayweather to take on an opponent beyond the traditional boxing world.

In December 2018, he needed just 140 seconds to beat Japanese kickboxer Tenshin Nasukawa in an exhibition boxing bout worth a reported $9m (£6.7m).

Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/55210500.

 

[Firebat]

Logan Paul weighed 34lbs heavier than Floyd Mayweather for their exhibition bout on Sunday night

Floyd Mayweather weighed in at the heaviest of his career but was still 34lbs lighter than YouTube superstar Logan Paul ahead of their exhibition bout in Miami.

The five-weight world champion tipped the scales at 155lbs, while the social media sensation came in at 189lbs before their showdown on Sunday night, live on Sky Sports Box Office.

Mayweather then shared an intense face-off with Logan Paul, who offered a few defiant words before a crowd of security circled the two rivals.

Logan Paul had claimed that he would incur a $100,000 fine for every pound of weight if he exceeded the 190lbs limit.

The YouTuber told Showtime Sport: "He's not ready, he don't know what to expect, and this is not the biggest fight of my life.

"This is the biggest fight of his life, because he's got a lot on the line and he's got everything to lose. I'm going to go in there, have fun.

"Tomorrow I break the simulation and beat the greatest boxer in the history of the planet.

"I'm going to get it done. Floyd is not ready, that's all I can say."

Mayweather dismissed the size difference and any suggestion that he was antagonised by the infamous pre-fight brawl with Jake Paul.

"I've been here before, so I know what it takes," he told Showtime Sport.
"I've fought every different style you can possibly fight.

"Height don't win fights, weight don't win fights, fighting wins fights at the end of the day and I can fight.

"Once again, I'm not worried about a hat. I don't worry about what nobody says. The one thing I can do, I can fight. I've been at the top level for 25 years, so I know what it takes when it's a fight of this magnitude."

https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/12325812/logan-far-heavier-than-floyd-hes-not-ready

 

[Justcrazy]

No Sugar Ray Leonard, Joe Luis, Jo Frazier, Jack Dempsey, Rockey Marciano? It's really tough, but seems you rate Hameed & Hernes too high. If Roberto Duran is there so high, SR Leonard should make top 10, but don't know whom to drop.

More or less, first 2 spots are unanimous but on individual peak, I'll say no one ever reached the level of Ali between 1965-67; that fight at Huston Astrodome (Cleveland Williams?) was probably the most perfect fight I have ever seen. Do you really think at their prime, Tyson can beat Frazier? Might knock him out once, but in 3 match replay, would he win 2?

Ali, Fraizer , Larry Holmes , Norton , Liston , Foreman , Ron Lyn all would have beaten Tyson in their primes.

 

[MenInG]

Logan Paul was able to escape a knockout and drag Floyd Mayweather to the final bell in their surreal showdown in Miami on Sunday night.

No official winner was announced, as per exhibition rules, but although a knockout was allowed it did not materialise.

The YouTuber-turned-boxer Paul emerged with dignity from his bizarre clash against the all-time boxing great Mayweather, who retired with a perfect 50-0 record in 2017.

Mayweather vs Paul
Mayweather, now 44, swung with hurtful intentions and landed his fair share but Paul was able to battle on.

The social media phenomenon, whose only previous boxing match was a loss to fellow YouTuber KSI, gained Mayweather's respect by the end when they mutually embraced.

Mayweather was content and relaxed enough to coast through the first round until, at the end, Paul wildly flurried in an attempt to land a clean shot.

None of his punches landed.

Paul, to his credit, was ambitious with the punches he threw but Mayweather evaded them easily, showing glimpses of what made him one of the greatest defensive fighters of all time.

Mayweather smiled when Paul landed an uppercut in the third round.

He responded by cracking home a left hook that Paul did well to withstand.

Mayweather landed a left hook then a couple of right hands in the fourth round.

Paul carried a substantial height advantage plus was at least 35lbs heavier and that size was most valuable in helping to absorb some of Mayweather's attacks.

Mayweather spent the fifth round landing sharp and painful punches but Paul remained relatively composed and did well to battle through.

Paul was exhausted in the final three rounds but showed genuine toughness to take a few of Mayweather's punches, and to spoil the smaller man's skills, to survive until the final bell.

Mayweather had been angered in the build-up by Jake Paul, Logan's brother, who stole his hat but remained cool throughout Sunday night.

This exhibition match did not count towards Mayweather's exemplary professional record of 50 wins and no defeats.

https://www.skysports.com/boxing/ne...nary-exhibition-went-the-eight-round-distance

 

[shaz619]

Floyd may well be making millions and his fans will celebrate as if they are enjoying his financial rewards but the guy is a stain on the sport and ruined his legacy [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION]

 

[in_cutter]

What a disgrace

 

[PetroDollars]

what a waste of a fight.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Who is he fighting next, PewDiePie?

It's sad boxing has come to this.

 

[PetroDollars]

Who is he fighting next, PewDiePie?

It's sad boxing has come to this.

i mean its no problem doing these fights but people do it for charity and to raise money for the poor and maywheter is calling it openly as a legal bank robbery.

A complete hypocrite of a person

 

[Savak]

Don't jealous. Only he can make $112 million in an exhibition

 

[Gayle_Force]

i mean its no problem doing these fights but people do it for charity and to raise money for the poor and maywheter is calling it openly as a legal bank robbery.

A complete hypocrite of a person

I wouldn’t say he is a hypocrite. He has said it from the start that he doesn’t care about legacy and he is doing this fight for one reason only and that is money. What I don’t understand is how can any one be dumb enough to pay to watch this fight.

 

[Savak]

On a serious note. If someone is so rich and comfortably richer than the other boxers, why do they feel the desperation to make more, the fear and insecurity of still not having enough, the fear and insecurity to trash talk younger boxers who might replace you as the current cash cow in boxing?

Its this thing which makes me sad about Floyd. Perhaps he hasn't exactly retained the wealth that he claims he has and has huge spending problems?

 

[shaz619]

On a serious note. If someone is so rich and comfortably richer than the other boxers, why do they feel the desperation to make more, the fear and insecurity of still not having enough, the fear and insecurity to trash talk younger boxers who might replace you as the current cash cow in boxing?

Its this thing which makes me sad about Floyd. Perhaps he hasn't exactly retained the wealth that he claims he has and has huge spending problems?

What’s worse is imagine being managed as a young hot prospect by this ego maniac, he is already hurting the progression of Gervonta Davis who is one hell of a talent. In theory Floyd could have something alternative to offer fighters in the promotional set up but his ego and insecurity prevents him from adding any value.

As for the desperation, it’s purely ego, insecurity and quiet simply he is having a mid life crisis; his hair transplant also reflects that lol

 

[Bhaijaan]

On a serious note. If someone is so rich and comfortably richer than the other boxers, why do they feel the desperation to make more, the fear and insecurity of still not having enough, the fear and insecurity to trash talk younger boxers who might replace you as the current cash cow in boxing?

Its this thing which makes me sad about Floyd. Perhaps he hasn't exactly retained the wealth that he claims he has and has huge spending problems?

People like Floyd, Dan Bilzerian literally burn their cash on fancy toys and women.

Dan has already filed bankruptcy for one of his firms whose finances he carelessly used to sustain his lavish playboy life style.


It's a lot of money for us. Not for those whose every little purchase counts in millions

 

[silentkiller187]

For anyone who doesn't think Maywhether needed the money , just have a look into his promotional visits to Mr Ts burger shop in bradford or his modelling for BooHoo MEN. Not exactly the kind of advertising you would expect a 50-0 ATG boxer to endorse

People like him and mike tyson before him blow money at a ridiculous burn rate, legacy is nothing for him, he will probably be back next year , not sure whats next for him, a mega fight with Kohli, Cristiano Ronaldo?

 

[Bhaijaan]

For anyone who doesn't think Maywhether needed the money , just have a look into his promotional visits to Mr Ts burger shop in bradford or his modelling for BooHoo MEN. Not exactly the kind of advertising you would expect a 50-0 ATG boxer to endorse

People like him and mike tyson before him blow money at a ridiculous burn rate, legacy is nothing for him, he will probably be back next year , not sure whats next for him, a mega fight with Kohli, Cristiano Ronaldo?

Charles Barkley often tells Shaq, "You are just once divorce away from being black."

Floyd Mayweather probably has high heels worth 10 million dollars )

 

[Poison]

Floyd is an icon.

Unashamedly is now in it for the money and if people are going to watch - he's going to keep fighting. With his record you can't say he doesn't deserve it.

 

[Bewal Express]

Floyd is an icon.

Unashamedly is now in it for the money and if people are going to watch - he's going to keep fighting. With his record you can't say he doesn't deserve it.

And you know that even with his millions, sooner or later he will be down to his last few .

 

[PetroDollars]

Floyd is an icon.

Unashamedly is now in it for the money and if people are going to watch - he's going to keep fighting. With his record you can't say he doesn't deserve it.

He was very selective, if he can fight every tom dick and harry, why didn't he fight amir khan? ofcourse people will laugh and say AK could never beat him, but he fought the opponents AK beat but not him, its obvious his strenght is his defence and his weakness is speed, which he avoided at all costs and only pac after his career was over.

 

[shaz619]

He was very selective, if he can fight every tom dick and harry, why didn't he fight amir khan? ofcourse people will laugh and say AK could never beat him, but he fought the opponents AK beat but not him, its obvious his strenght is his defence and his weakness is speed, which he avoided at all costs and only pac after his career was over.

He was, but you go back and look at the ranking of each fighter he faced and not the governing bodies but the highly regarded ring magazine who’s ring magazine title is the closest physical manifestation of a lineal championship, and those fighters were generally in the top 5 in their respective weight division, Floyd knew exactly when to face these fighters and obtain every advantage, but that doesn’t take away from what he achieved (until now) and if you ignore the last 10 years of his career, he had a HOF career in his first 10 years to when he wasn’t necessarily considered the A side and had to take high risk fights. With that being said, there is no doubt he avoided Amir Khan, we can’t say Amir would have beaten him for sure but Amir would be a bit of a stylistic nightmare for Floyd and cause him some serious problems, he always had the hand speed but under Virgil a bit more composed, tends to do really well against boxers compared to punchers and he got no legs under him now but he could glide around the ring with the lateral movement; Amir’s performance against Devon Alexander who Floyd himself had touted as the future of Boxing clearly must have put him off, Amir was never expected to dominate that fight the way he did winning arguably all 12 rounds

 

[Suleiman]

Floyd may well be making millions and his fans will celebrate as if they are enjoying his financial rewards but the guy is a stain on the sport and ruined his legacy [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION]

I disagree mate. I don’t judge but IMO anyone who attended or bought this fight is a clown, but Floyd is just as ruthless when it comes to making money as he was in his boxing career. For some people, money really is everything.. it’s just different priorities.

 

[shaz619]

I disagree mate. I don’t judge but IMO anyone who attended or bought this fight is a clown, but Floyd is just as ruthless when it comes to making money as he was in his boxing career. For some people, money really is everything.. it’s just different priorities.

His legacy as a promoter is ensured but in Boxing circles he is ruining his legacy as a fighter

 

[MenInG]

YouTuber star Logan Paul has denied asking for a rematch with Floyd Mayweather and claims the boxing legend asked to fight him again despite owing him a serious amount of money.

The 50-0 boxing icon went a eight full rounds with Paul in June 2021 and the lucrative event was said to have sold more than one million pay-per-views.

Mayweather took on YouTube sensation Paul in Florida last summer

Since then, the pair have had a falling out, and ‘The Maverick’ has even threatened to sue Mayweather, who he claims is refusing to pay him his fair share,”

The 27-year-old, who ‘conservatively’ estimates that Mayweather owes him several million, shut down talk of a potential rematch between the two.

“My guess is between $2 and $5 million, conservatively. This motherf*****,” Paul said on The True Geordie podcast.

“He had the audacity to tell the media that I asked for a rematch. Let me just set the record straight. Why the f*** would I ask for a rematch from someone who doesn’t pay you for the fight?

“If I haven’t been paid for the first one, why on God’s green Earth would I ask you for a second fight knowing damn well that I’m probably not going to get paid the money that I’m owed for my work, you dumb a**.”

Paul revealed it was in fact Mayweather’s team who contacted him for a rematch in Dubai before ‘Money’ ultimately ended up boxing his old sparring partner Don Moore.

“They asked us for a rematch. He was supposed to fight on top of the Burj Al Arab Hotel in Dubai, the seven-star hotel with the helipad on top – it would have been amazing,” he said.

“I got called a month and a half ago because some s*** happened with his opponent. ‘Hey, would you wanna fight Floyd in a month and a half.’ Someone from his team [said]. I go, What? Bro, pay me for the first fight [puts the phone down].

Paul says he has learned an invaluable business lesson after his eagerness to share the ring with ‘The Best Ever’ led to him getting shafted out of big money.

“Before you fight Floyd Mayweather, I’ll do whatever you f****** need, dude, tell me where to sign,” he said.

“Now, I’m like, ‘Oh f***.’ Maybe we should have some sort of escrow account or an arbitrator or someone running the deal instead of Mayweather Promotions.”

https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/1133492/logan-paul-net-worth-floyd-mayweather-dubai-rematch/

 

[daytrader]

Money Mayweather has lost his Midas touch

UK fans avoid latest Floyd Mayweather ‘robbery’ with O2 Arena nearly empty for boxing legend’s exhibition bout with Aaron Chalmers

Floyd Mayweather’s UK debut failed to attract interest with fight fans snubbing his latest exhibition bout in London.

The American boxing legend faced Geordie Shore star Aaron Chalmers at the 20,000-capacity O2 Arena in London on Saturday night but the huge venue was largely empty.

...
https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/1344144/uk-fans-floyd-mayweather-vs-aaron-chalmers-empty-arena/

 

[shaz619]

Money Mayweather has lost his Midas touch

UK fans avoid latest Floyd Mayweather ‘robbery’ with O2 Arena nearly empty for boxing legend’s exhibition bout with Aaron Chalmers

Floyd Mayweather’s UK debut failed to attract interest with fight fans snubbing his latest exhibition bout in London.

The American boxing legend faced Geordie Shore star Aaron Chalmers at the 20,000-capacity O2 Arena in London on Saturday night but the huge venue was largely empty.

...
https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/1344144/uk-fans-floyd-mayweather-vs-aaron-chalmers-empty-arena/

It’s easy money for Floyd but thankfully the UK fans are starting to wake up and were not gullible enough to attend live