Fourth Test between England (669) and India (358 & 425/4) ended in a draw with the hosts leading the five-match series 2-1

[The Bald Eagle]

After a thrilling 22-run win in the 3rd Test, England have taken a 2-1 lead in the five-match series against India. The action now shifts to Old Trafford, Manchester, where the 4th Test will be played from July 23 to 27. England will be eager to carry their momentum and secure the series with a game to spare, while India will be desperate to bounce back and push the contest into a decider.

The Manchester pitch is expected to offer assistance to seamers, which could influence both teams' bowling combinations. England's pace attack has been impressive, but they may consider rotation to manage workloads. India, on the other hand, might reassess their batting order and explore changes in the bowling department to counter England's dominance. However, it will be interesting to see whether they rest Bumrah as part of their rotation policy or play him in a second consecutive Test.

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[sweep_shot]

Go, England.

Smash TEAM IPL.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

History is just too relentless... One can't always get away with their follies. Stokes XI failed to make appropriate no of changes for the 4th Test. They should have just killed this series with triumph in this Test but they chose to gamble again.

Biggest bad news for England....Akash Deep will be not playing

 

[sweep_shot]

History is just too relentless... One can't always get away with their follies. Stokes XI failed to make appropriate no of changes for the 4th Test. They should have just killed this series with triumph in this Test but they chose to gamble again.

Biggest bad news for England....Akash Deep will be not playing

I think England should've been 2-0 now.

They had an opportunity to save 2nd Test but they threw it away with mindless Bazball.

 

[RexRex]

I'm betting big on England again. That way if Eng win, I earn good money.

If Ind win, I lose money but still earn a dopamine hit. Win Win.

 

[James]

Biggest bad news for England....Akash Deep will be not playing

I think that’s good news for England. Yes he bowled rubbish at Lords but was unlikely to have such a poor Test again.

 

[RexRex]

Shamless man, betting against your own country. Only a sell out would do something like that.

Unlike you atleast I am patriotic towards SENA and Pakistan

The only reason you aren't betting against your own country is coz your religion forbids gambling.

As a gambling man you'd have lost a ton of money by now, given your abysmal record of predictions.

 

[sweep_shot]

It would be an icing on the cake if Root scores heavily on top of a big English victory.

Root is 2662 runs behind Tendulkar.

 

[mominsaigol]

The only reason you aren't betting against your own country is coz your religion forbids gambling.

As a gambling man you'd have lost a ton of money by now, given your abysmal record of predictions.

I am great at predictions. Its just recent times havent been kind to me.

Also why would I gamble, I am a multi millionaire . You become rich by selling a product for money or investing money knowing full well you will make back double or triple the amount. You dont become rich by putting money on the line where you can lose it.

 

[sweep_shot]

I am great at predictions. Its just recent times havent been kind to me.

Also why would I gamble, I am a multi millionaire . You become rich by selling a product for money or investing money knowing full well you will make back double or triple the amount. You dont become rich by putting money on the line where you can lose it.

Also, gambling is haram.

 

[Aqib_mustafa]

Also, gambling is haram.

How is the weather for the match tomorrow looks ok for now bro

 

[sweep_shot]

How is the weather for the match tomorrow looks ok for now bro

India vs England?

Forecast is showing very little rain. It will probably not rain.

Manchester - BBC Weather

14-day weather forecast for Manchester.

www.bbc.com

 

[Aqib_mustafa]

India vs England?

Forecast is showing very little rain. It will probably not rain.

Manchester - BBC Weather

14-day weather forecast for Manchester.

www.bbc.com

Ya india vs england bro ya you r right not much rain

 

[mominsaigol]

Also, gambling is haram.

Gambling money for sports is stupid.

 

[kron]

Also, gambling is haram.

So you invest in shares
Forex
Options trading
And last but not least crypto/managed funds
Leveraged etfs?

Wouldn’t say haram for those bro.
But yes little bit of luck is involved

 

[Devadwal]

Most likely playing Eleven ( not mine) .

Yashasvi Jaiswal
KL Rahul
Karun Nair
Shubman Gill
Rishabh Pant
Sai Sudarshan
Ravindra Jadeja
Shardul Thakur
Anshul Kamboj
Mohammed Siraj
Jasprit Bumrah

 

[BouncerGuy]

Stokes backs experienced Dawson to come good in Manchester

The England captain has thrown his support behind the all-rounder’s long-awaited return to Test cricket, as the hosts prepare for a crucial fourth Test.

With the fourth Test against India in Manchester just around the corner, England skipper Ben Stokes believes all-rounder Liam Dawson’s comeback after an eight-year absence was a well-deserved recall.

Dawson had earned his long-awaited recall to the Test squad following a finger injury to right-arm spinner Shoaib Bashir in England’s thrilling win in the third Test at Lord’s.

Speaking to reporters ahead of the game, Stokes referred to Dawson's successful return to the T20I format earlier this year. Dawson featured in three home T20Is, and picked five wickets, including a career-best 4/20.

"He's been performing really well for Hampshire for a while now and I think he's obviously getting recalled into the white-ball team as well. He showed that he can just come back in and get to work straight away,” Stokes said.

“I'm sure there'll be a bit of nerves for Dawson coming back in and playing his first game in eight years as you said. But yeah, he's a very good cricketer and I'm excited for him this week.”

"It just shows if you keep working hard and keep putting in good performances consistently, then you're always going to be spoken about and be there with everybody. The door will be open for the Ashes potentially if he can prove himself."

Stokes further clarified on another selection call England made: that of sticking with Chris Woakes ahead of Gus Atkinson. The all-rounder backed the experienced Woakes, especially with his record at Old Trafford. Woakes averages 17.37 for his 35 Test scalps at the ground.

"Woakes, he's got a very good record here. It's one of those where we've managed to win two of the first three games pretty much with a very similar bowling attack.

“Obviously we had Joff [Jofra Archer] coming in last week, which was a big bonus, but outside of the rewards that Woakes hasn't got with the ball, he's a very important player for us.

“He adds that control with the ball, it's very handy having him down the order. We won last week, so we didn't see there was a necessary change to make for this week."

Continued intensity and close margins have been a hallmark of this high-octane series, drawing favourable comparisons to one of the greatest contests in Ashes history and Stokes acknowledged the mentality on display from both sides.

"I think so far the series has been great to play in and I presume it's been pretty good to watch as well. 2005 Ashes series was great to watch and I think we've gone all five days and all three tests so far, so it just proves that the quality of cricket has been outstanding so far.

“Two teams going toe-to-toe and not very much separating us at the moment. It's been a great series so far, still got two big games to go and obviously one of those two starts tomorrow. It's been good to be a part of it so far.

Discussing his own efforts to balance with the bat and ball throughout the series so far, Stokes was upbeat about his workload management and pre-series preparations paying off.

"It is a good sign for me personally. I feel like I've been relatively sensible with my loads so far in terms of breaking up my overs throughout our fielding innings.

“It's obviously a positive thing for me knowing that all the hard work that I did before the series in getting my body robust and putting myself in a good position physically, being able to bowl those spells and feel really good throughout them was a good positive sign for my body."

The England skipper put on a Player of the Match show at Lord's, claiming five wickets in addition to adding 77 crucial runs with the bat.

Stokes also heaped massive praise on England batter Joe Root, who recently retained his throne of No.1 ranked batter in the ICC Test Rankings.

"Sometimes less is more maybe. I don't think I need to say anything else except he's just the absolute GOAT.”

Root is just 120 runs away from surpassing three legends of red-ball cricket - Rahul Dravid, Jacques Kallis and Ricky Ponting - and becoming the second-highest run-scorer in Test history, with only Sachin Tendulkar left at the top.

The fourth Test at at Old Tarfford, Manchester, as part of the ICC World Test Championship 2025-27 cycle, begins on Wednesday, 23rd July.

ICC

 

[mominsaigol]

Dear Indian posters @Sachin fan @Bhaijaan @Nikhil_cric @Rajdeep @jeeteshssaxena

I have made a decison to temporarily undergo a heel turn and support india for tue next 2 tests.

I have come to realise that I am the papa of jinx and this is the only way to ensure a 4-1 victory .

Predictions for test 4

1) Jaiswal scores a century

2) Rahul, Gill and Pant fail due to law of averages

3) Superman Jadeja continues his run

4) Minor cameos from sai/karun

5) Bumrah storm gets a 5 evr

6) The rest of the bowlers take minor wickets but are overall irrelevant in the long run as siraj historically shows up 2x per series and he has used his 2 slots

7) From England duckett scores a century followed by Crawley finally kicking off his usual one performance per series mantra.

8) Pope and Root fail. Jamie Smith performs but not a 50, likely 30-40 as law of avg catches up.

9) Brooks Bradman scores a century.

10) Archer fails and no longer repeats his one hit wonder. Archer also historically shows up once or twice.

Match ends as a draw

 

[Devadwal]

Dear Indian posters @Sachin fan @Bhaijaan @Nikhil_cric @Rajdeep @jeeteshssaxena

I have made a decison to temporarily undergo a heel turn and support india for tue next 2 tests.

I have come to realise that I am the papa of jinx and this is the only way to ensure a 4-1 victory .

Predictions for test 4

1) Jaiswal scores a century

2) Rahul, Gill and Pant fail due to law of averages

3) Superman Jadeja continues his run

4) Minor cameos from sai/karun

5) Bumrah storm gets a 5 evr

6) The rest of the bowlers take minor wickets but are overall irrelevant in the long run as siraj historically shows up 2x per series and he has used his 2 slots

7) From England duckett scores a century followed by Crawley finally kicking off his usual one performance per series mantra.

8) Pope and Root fail. Jamie Smith performs but not a 50, likely 30-40 as law of avg catches up.

9) Brooks Bradman scores a century.

10) Archer fails and no longer repeats his one hit wonder. Archer also historically shows up once or twice.

Match ends as a draw

We don't need any wannabe supporter. Indian supporter are enough to support our beloved team

 

[Hitman]

Any Test cricket is good and healthy cricket.

 

[BouncerGuy]

GUYS, PLEASE.... NO PERSONAL STUFF

 

[mominsaigol]

We don't need any wannabe supporter. Indian supporter are enough to support our beloved team

And stop reporting my comments

 

[Devadwal]

Any Test cricket is good and healthy cricket.

Not any test cricket but between top quality teams is always enjoyable .

I hope weather stay Away from this Test.

 

[Rafale Nidhal]

india will win this test

 

[Ab Fan]

Jaiswal will get a big one this game.

 

[KingKhanWC]

I'm betting big on England again. That way if Eng win, I earn good money.

If Ind win, I lose money but still earn a dopamine hit. Win Win.

Cloudy first day in Manchester. If England bowl first , Archer could rip through the Indian batting lineup. India are due a low score , today could be the day . India under 200 is possible

 

[KingKhanWC]

Indians were on top until they decided to abuse Crawley . It was an idiotic move only motivating England . Gill should realise he is not West Indian of the 80s or Australia, aggression doesnt suit India!

India lost by an innings on their previous visit here

4-1 is the likely result of this

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Dear Indian posters @Sachin fan @Bhaijaan @Nikhil_cric @Rajdeep @jeeteshssaxena

I have made a decison to temporarily undergo a heel turn and support india for tue next 2 tests.

I have come to realise that I am the papa of jinx and this is the only way to ensure a 4-1 victory .

Predictions for test 4

1) Jaiswal scores a century

2) Rahul, Gill and Pant fail due to law of averages

3) Superman Jadeja continues his run

4) Minor cameos from sai/karun

5) Bumrah storm gets a 5 evr

6) The rest of the bowlers take minor wickets but are overall irrelevant in the long run as siraj historically shows up 2x per series and he has used his 2 slots

7) From England duckett scores a century followed by Crawley finally kicking off his usual one performance per series mantra.

8) Pope and Root fail. Jamie Smith performs but not a 50, likely 30-40 as law of avg catches up.

9) Brooks Bradman scores a century.

10) Archer fails and no longer repeats his one hit wonder. Archer also historically shows up once or twice.

Match ends as a draw

How small does a cameo have to be to be considered a minor cameo? 10 runs? cause that would count as a failure rather than a cameo.

 

[mominsaigol]

How small does a cameo have to be to be considered a minor cameo? 10 runs? cause that would count as a failure rather than a cameo.

40 to 49 runs

 

[Asad T]

I'm betting big on England again. That way if Eng win, I earn good money.

If Ind win, I lose money but still earn a dopamine hit. Win Win.

yeah i do that a lot when pak play india

i've made so much money in the last few years doing that haha

 

[mominsaigol]

yeah i do that a lot when pak play india

i've made so much money in the last few years doing that haha

You gamble

 

[Asad T]

You gamble

i 'hedge'

 

[BouncerGuy]

Anshul Kamboj and Sai are coming in I think... Debit for Kamboj... Let's see...

 

[Ball Blazer]

there’s a 19% chance of rain in Manchester on Wednesday morning, but conditions may worsen as the day goes on. The damp surface may help seamers early on

which side you think will have major advantage here?

 

[Rajdeep]

Gambling money for sports is stupid.

Why? I am a full time gambler. LOL

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

For England fans:

"Famous Old Trafford stat: no team has ever won the toss here, chosen to bowl first and won the match."

 

[RKhan_Cricket]

For England fans:

"Famous Old Trafford stat: no team has ever won the toss here, chosen to bowl first and won the match."

Different weather different conditions different year different team.

 

[Rajdeep]

Cloudy first day in Manchester. If England bowl first , Archer could rip through the Indian batting lineup. India are due a low score , today could be the day . India under 200 is possible

England bowling first

 

[Rajdeep]

How much we will score in 1st innings? @Devadwal bhai

My guess 480

 

[mominsaigol]

Why? I am a full time gambler. LOL

Coming from a multi million dollar household we were taught to build, brand and sell.

Not risk losing money. Only lose money if its investing in the business.

 

[BouncerGuy]

England have won the toss and have opted to field

Teams:

India (Playing XI): Yashasvi Jaiswal, KL Rahul, Sai Sudharsan, Shubman Gill(c), Rishabh Pant(w), Ravindra Jadeja, Washington Sundar, Shardul Thakur, Anshul Kamboj, Jasprit Bumrah, Mohammed Siraj

England (Playing XI): Zak Crawley, Ben Duckett, Ollie Pope, Joe Root, Harry Brook, Ben Stokes(c), Jamie Smith(w), Liam Dawson, Chris Woakes, Brydon Carse, Jofra Archer

 

[mominsaigol]

England have won the toss and have opted to field

Teams:

India (Playing XI): Yashasvi Jaiswal, KL Rahul, Sai Sudharsan, Shubman Gill(c), Rishabh Pant(w), Ravindra Jadeja, Washington Sundar, Shardul Thakur, Anshul Kamboj, Jasprit Bumrah, Mohammed Siraj

England (Playing XI): Zak Crawley, Ben Duckett, Ollie Pope, Joe Root, Harry Brook, Ben Stokes(c), Jamie Smith(w), Liam Dawson, Chris Woakes, Brydon Carse, Jofra Archer

Karun was eventually going to be dropped, no surprise here.

Crawley needs to step up now

 

[followed]

Let's go England
Make it 9 losses for my beloved india in their last 12 tests
Mediocre India's record
Mts-11
Lost- 8
Won-2
Draw-1
England should have batted first though.

 

[followed]

Zak crawley ollie pope and Chris woakes all are waste of spot.
They should be dumped.

 

[Ball Blazer]

Bumrah was initially expected to play only three of the five Tests ...
Does it mean that now he won't feature in the last Test?

 

[Ball Blazer]

A reminder: India debutant Anshul Kamboj took all ten wickets in an innings for Haryana against Kerala in the Ranji Trophy last season

 

[Rajdeep]

Coming from a multi million dollar household we were taught to build, brand and sell.

Not risk losing money. Only lose money if its investing in the business.

Lucky you mate

 

[jnaveen1980]

13th toss loss in the last 14 matches in ENgland ofr India . Must be some sort of record.

 

[Rajdeep]

How is this possible, India never wins any toss and all captains had same fate with luck of coin?

I smell a conspiracy here

 

[Devadwal]

How much we will score in 1st innings? @Devadwal bhai

My guess 480

Pitch is spicy so I don't think india can score over 330 . Lest see

 

[followed]

England need to get 3-4 quick wickets to justify this toss decision.

They lost the 2nd match due to bad toss decision.

 

[OldWarHorse]

Can't see how England win this. We are hurt after the last one, so we'll come harder. Boys have also been rejuvenated after watching Casemiro and Bruno Fernandes train.

There is no stopping India

 

[RamLakhan]

I suspect these tosses... How come it always goes against India?

 

[followed]

No team has ever won here after bowling first
3 losses and 8 draws.
England management should have contemplated their decision of bowling first.

 

[RamLakhan]

India is badly missing Bashir here! If he was not injured, he would have probably played here... (because he took the last wicket). It would have been huge inspiration and motivation for Indian Batsmen (to go after him).

 

[followed]

Lol hahah the tears of indian clown supporters have already started flowing.
Loving it. Hahahah

 

[mominsaigol]

India will lose this test badly.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

How much we will score in 1st innings? @Devadwal bhai

My guess 480

400 should be minimum . No chance otherwise

 

[mominsaigol]

400 should be minimum . No chance otherwise

No chance, I gave my predictions already.

 

[Hellion]

Lol hahah the tears of indian clown supporters have already started flowing.
Loving it. Hahahah

Nice to imagine scenarios and get some joy out of them

 

[RamLakhan]

Pitch looks the spiciest in the series... I hope India plays like they did in Perth (1st test in Australia)... Come hard in 2nd innings (bowling) and 3rd innings (batting). I think it is going to be extremely tough this innings... If India reach 200 it is going to be an achievement here... But Bumrah captained extremely well in that test! (People have forgotten this!)

 

[Nikhil_cric]

No chance, I gave my predictions already.

Now stick to this to the end of the Test. No flip flopping

 

[jnaveen1980]

Nice to imagine scenarios and get some joy out of them

He needs to drown his sorrow after getting battered and bruised by a lower ranked T20 team lol

 

[Devadwal]

400 should be minimum . No chance otherwise

England won good Toss again ,we are so so bad when comes to winning the important toss.

All four toss has won by England in this series.

 

[OldWarHorse]

Jaiswal needs to get a triple here to make up for that shocker in the last game

 

[mominsaigol]

Now stick to this to the end of the Test. No flip flopping

You can make whatever story you want about me for a lot of things, but I am always watching.

I stick and I stick it hard. Beware and be scared.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Jaiswal needs to get a triple here to make up for that shocker in the last game

Many shockers recently. Dropped catches as well. We lost atleast 2 tests due to his dropped catches. Smallest mistakes became biggest errors.

 

[jnaveen1980]

First 4 days sold out tickets

 

[Nikhil_cric]

You can make whatever story you want about me for a lot of things, but I am always watching.

I stick and I stick it hard. Beware and be scared.

England don't lose at Old Trafford, generally. So you may actually be right

 

[mominsaigol]

England don't lose at Old Trafford, generally. So you may actually be right

The heck? I predicted India winning or Draw .

Oh balle

 

[BouncerGuy]

PLEASE TAKE YOUR FINANCIAL MATTERS SOMEWHERE ELSE... THIS IS A GAME THREAD AND WE ONLY WANT TO SEE RELEVANT POSTS HERE.

 

[jnaveen1980]

SUn is shining now. slightly.

 

[Devadwal]

Overcast conditions, new Ball on fresh spicy pitch .

 

[mominsaigol]

I want England to tonk 800 tommorow or day after

 

[Devadwal]

Bumrah was initially expected to play only three of the five Tests ...
Does it mean that now he won't feature in the last Test?

I already said he will Play 4th and 5th test.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Wit that many cracks we could have had Kuldeep in Too bad India had to compromise

 

[Devadwal]

Wit that many cracks we could have had Kuldeep in Too bad India had to compromise

We are playing too Many useless allrounders just because they can bat ,This is not how test cricket team selected .

 

[KingKhanWC]

England bowling first

India riding their luck. Anything over 250 will be a good score here.

 

[Rajdeep]

India riding their luck. Anything over 250 will be a good score here.

Not watching it live...just following scores

 

[KingKhanWC]

Bros bat made out of a celery stick.