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I didn't think about the show since last year but, now that there is only two weeks left, I couldn't be more psyched/impatient. This is going to be the best season yet IMO.
 
Space Cat said:
This season will be the peak of the show i think.
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The show producers have said that there will be 7 seasons. Which means that each season after this one will be very interesting.

I think 4 is still the peak but 5 and 7 will be awesome too.
 
Production wise, they really seem to have taken it to a new level. Expecting some great episodes.
 
endymion248 said:
The show producers have said that there will be 7 seasons. Which means that each season after this one will be very interesting.

I think 4 is still the peak but 5 and 7 will be awesome too.
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Oh yea they will be awesome. I'm just thinking the peak (entertainment wise) of the story in the books was around where we are on the show now. The story meanders a bit in book 4 and 5.

6 should be better if GRRM ever finishes it.

Wouldn't there be 8 seasons since they have made seasons 3 and 4 both from a storm of swords and he intends to write 7 books?
 
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Cant wait


Wonder how they will tackle the battle at the Wall, because TV veiwers might take it as a copy of Blackwater considering one side is loosing untill knights come out of nowhere and trample the 'bad' guys, only this time Stannis is doing the trampling
 
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Season 4 will have some elements of books 4 and 5 in it and they will be finisved in season 5.
Season 6-7-(8) will then be the final two books.

As such, if you look at all the exciting moments in books 4 and 5 crammed into one season (since season 4 will have the plot progression elements of those books), it can be nice. Because of budget restriction, it is even possible that the big battle at the start of book 6 ends season 5.

So, it could just maybe possible that the show doesn't go through the same slump as the books did in season 5.

This also means that they will be into new material next year and, if book 6 is not yet published, the show will give the plot first. It's a dream come true for me. If only I could taste the tears of thousands of book snobs.
 
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endymion248 said:
This also means that they will be into new material next year and, if book 6 is not yet published, the show will give the plot first. It's a dream come true for me. If only I could taste the tears of thousands of book snobs.
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lol im already 90% sure that the last book ( a summers dream or something like that) will be ghost written by the writers of GoT
 
The 4th book was pretty epic, but I have to say I've been a bit disappointed by the actors picked for a couple of characters from the earlier series. Robert Baratheon looked more like Santa Claus than the character from the book, and Joffrey was an ugly little gimp rather than the nasty little pretty boy he was supposed to be. Cersei and Tyrion are superb though and Littlefinger is also top notch.
 
He's finsihed the 6 book.

but he cant stop writing the git lol..

I think the seasons will go like this:

season 4 = storm of sword part 2 and bits of a feast of crows
season 5 = continue bits of feast of crows and then initial bit of dance with dragons
season 6 = dance with dragons part 2
season 7 = new book
season 8 = final book part 1
season 9 = final book

I honestly cant see them finsishing before season 8 or 9 unless they really cut out alot of bits which they may..
 
also dont forget they are also thinking of doing a prequel with ned stark and robert vs the mad king Aeris and the battle on the ship.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
The 4th book was pretty epic, but I have to say I've been a bit disappointed by the actors picked for a couple of characters from the earlier series. Robert Baratheon looked more like Santa Claus than the character from the book, and Joffrey was an ugly little gimp rather than the nasty little pretty boy he was supposed to be. Cersei and Tyrion are superb though and Littlefinger is also top notch.
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True I thought the same of Joffrey


I think Robert was cast well though. He is meant to be a shadow of the man he once was


What really sucks though is that they didn't have Greatjon Umber after the first series


Plus I'm wondering how they will add the Manderlys , if they ever do that is.

they would have to add them though, how else will they set davos's quest to find rickon, I know they have already left out the Theon's squire , but I think that can easily be death with.

I think maybe they might just replace the Manderlys with the Umbers (saves explains another house) and have them send davos to find rickon in exchange for accepting stannis as king
 
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Glesson was well cast. It's not all about appearance, he is a very good actor, conveys the character and emotions of Joffrey well and, most of all, he really reminds of Phoenix in Gladiator which is a hell of a compliment. The ideal would have been someone like a young Joaquin Phoenix who was both handsome and skilled but I have no complaints.

As for Mark Addy, he was described as fat with a huge beard in the books too.

For Manderly, his son was in the red wedding episode. He is the guy who is sitting on the table next to Catelyn Stark.
 
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^ nothing wrong with gleesons acting but he is meant to look like a young jaime, a kid who looks like your classic Prince Charming.

He was always looked a sook tbh

The actual acting was to character and very well done so small point but I understand where people are coming from


And on the topic of jaime. He is perfectly cast in my opinion. It's on the same level of perfect as Sir Ian portraying Gandalf
 
endymion248 said:
Glesson was well cast. It's not all about appearance, he is a very good actor, conveys the character and emotions of Joffrey well and, most of all, he really reminds of Phoenix in Gladiator which is a hell of a compliment. The ideal would have been someone like a young Joaquin Phoenix who was both handsome and skilled but I have no complaints.

As for Mark Addy, he was described as fat with a huge beard in the books too.

For Manderly, his son was in the red wedding episode. He is the guy who is sitting on the table next to Catelyn Stark.
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Glesson played the character well enough, but the idea that Sansa would be smitten by a kid who looked like he was her oiky little brother was a bit hard to believe. and Addy just looked too friendly and somewhat short for what I envisioned. Like a fat Harry Enfield with a beard. Hagrid from harry potter films would have been better.
 
I hope they cast Mads Mikkelsen and Ray Stevenson for next year as the Greyjoy brothers.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Glesson played the character well enough, but the idea that Sansa would be smitten by a kid who looked like he was her oiky little brother was a bit hard to believe. and Addy just looked too friendly and somewhat short for what I envisioned. Like a fat Harry Enfield with a beard. Hagrid from harry potter films would have been better.
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Well that's the whole point Robert was very likable and jolly at face value ,many characters have noted in the books
 
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Convict said:
The main disappointment is the butchery of Stannis
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Mysha really killed him. Made it seem he was a slave to Melisandra unlike in the books.

The guy that plays him says he doesnt have many scenes this season but hopefully the writes will redeem him.


If they cant redeem him at the wall then they never will
 
pakistanigoneaussie said:
Mysha really killed him. Made it seem he was a slave to Melisandra unlike in the books.

The guy that plays him says he doesnt have many scenes this season but hopefully the writes will redeem him.
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IMO, Stannis was just as bad in the first 2.5 books. The main difference with the book is that, in the book, you have Davos who is an unreliable narrator and who is constantly talking of Stannis like he is the best thing since sliced bread. If you look at dialogue and dialogue only, there is not much difference between the show and the book. In my modest opinion, they made the right choice by toning down Davos' fanboyism.

Cpt. Rishwat said:
Glesson played the character well enough, but the idea that Sansa would be smitten by a kid who looked like he was her oiky little brother was a bit hard to believe. and Addy just looked too friendly and somewhat short for what I envisioned. Like a fat Harry Enfield with a beard. Hagrid from harry potter films would have been better.
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That's the main problem with the books. If you look at the descriptions, everybody is either stunning or an ugly a**. It seems like GRRM has never seen an average looking person.
Something that they do well with the casting is that they don't go for big stars and people who look like supermodels. Their actors look like people you could meet on the street and, IMO, the show is better for it.
To me, the casting by Nina Gold is absolutely top notch. The show has almost 200 actors and I can't think of one who is badly cast.

Also, the only people in the books who describe Joffrey as handsome are Cersei (who is obesessed with him looking like Jaime's and her image) and Sansa (who is obsessed with him being a prince).
 
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endymion248 said:
IMO, Stannis was just as bad in the first 2.5 books. The main difference with the book is that, in the book, you have Davos who is an unreliable narrator and who is constantly talking of Stannis like he is the best thing since sliced bread. If you look at dialogue and dialogue only, there is not much difference between the show and the book. In my modest opinion, they made the right choice by toning down Davos' fanboyism.



That's the main problem with the books. If you look at the descriptions, everybody is either stunning or an ugly a**. It seems like GRRM has never seen an average looking person.
Something that they do well with the casting is that they don't go for big stars and people who look like supermodels. Their actors look like people you could meet on the street and, IMO, the show is better for it.
To me, the casting by Nina Gold is absolutely top notch. The show has almost 200 actors and I can't think of one who is badly cast.

Also, the only people in the books who describe Joffrey as handsome are Cersei (who is obesessed with him looking like Jaime's and her image) and Sansa (who is obsessed with him being a prince).
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Nope. Stannis in the books is very much his old man who whilst he does take Melisandres advice makes his own decisions because rightly or wrongly he considers them the right decisions to make.

He's in control and he is a King.

TV show Stannis is a lapdog.

They've also emphasised the sympathetic sides of many characters and completely whitewashed Tyrion. With Stannis they've emphasised his bad side.

His character doesn't change in the later books.
 
Convict said:
Nope. Stannis in the books is very much his old man who whilst he does take Melisandres advice makes his own decisions because rightly or wrongly he considers them the right decisions to make.

He's in control and he is a King.
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Because that's how Davos sees him. When I first read the book, I had the same impression of him as show watchers do. His dialogue is almost the same in the books and in the show if you look beyond what Davos thinks of him and he makes the same decisions under Melisandre's advice (ie killing Renly and trying to kill Edric Storm).

The only slight difference is that Melisandre is more in favour of going to the north in the show which makes sense because show watchers haven't heard 1000 dialogue about Rhllor vs the Others, so they needed that exposition.


They've also emphasised the sympathetic sides of many characters and completely whitewashed Tyrion. With Stannis they've emphasised his bad side.

His character doesn't change in the later books.
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My opinion of Stannis changed a bit in the end of book 3 because there is more emphasis on the only good side of his character, the military prowess and some selfless decisions he makes.

As for Tyrion, again, book readers used to totally love him. Their opinion of him started changing after what corresponds to season 4. Before that, he had only done two things that the show didn't tell (but could still tell). One is that he raped his first wife and the other is that he kidnapped his nephew. The first one they could still have because they will come back to his first wife this season and they could reveal what he did to her to go as a package with the other despicable thing he does.
 
We can't forget the TV series is an adaption. They aren't trying to be a perfect imitation of the book and its characters.

I think they have done an amazing job.
 
Btw i thought Mark Addy and Jack Gleeson were almost perfectly cast as Robert and Joffrey. I don't understand the complaint there at all.

Casting isn't just going out and finding people who look like the characters.
 
The casting has been stellar for GoT. Even when it seems like a bad choice it works.

I thought Alfie Allen would be an awful choice as Theon but hes been excellent.

My only casting complaint is that string bean version of the Mountain in season 2. That's a character where the appearance is very important.
 
pakistanigoneaussie said:
^ nothing wrong with gleesons acting but he is meant to look like a young jaime, a kid who looks like your classic Prince Charming.

He was always looked a sook tbh

The actual acting was to character and very well done so small point but I understand where people are coming from


And on the topic of jaime. He is perfectly cast in my opinion. It's on the same level of perfect as Sir Ian portraying Gandalf
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He favors Cersei's appearance and mannerisms in the books.
 
Space Cat said:
The casting has been stellar for GoT. Even when it seems like a bad choice it works.

I thought Alfie Allen would be an awful choice as Theon but hes been excellent.

My only casting complaint is that string bean version of the Mountain in season 2. That's a character where the appearance is very important.
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There is a new mountain in season 4.
 
endymion248 said:
IMO, Stannis was just as bad in the first 2.5 books. The main difference with the book is that, in the book, you have Davos who is an unreliable narrator and who is constantly talking of Stannis like he is the best thing since sliced bread. If you look at dialogue and dialogue only, there is not much difference between the show and the book. In my modest opinion, they made the right choice by toning down Davos' fanboyism.



That's the main problem with the books. If you look at the descriptions, everybody is either stunning or an ugly a**. It seems like GRRM has never seen an average looking person.
Something that they do well with the casting is that they don't go for big stars and people who look like supermodels. Their actors look like people you could meet on the street and, IMO, the show is better for it.
To me, the casting by Nina Gold is absolutely top notch. The show has almost 200 actors and I can't think of one who is badly cast.

Also, the only people in the books who describe Joffrey as handsome are Cersei (who is obesessed with him looking like Jaime's and her image) and Sansa (who is obsessed with him being a prince).
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Stannis in the book is supposed to be a grim, humourless character with hard, drawn features. The TV version looks and sounds more like a book critic. Renley too is supposed to be a dashing figure who is held in awe by his men. The screen version looks like a kids TV presenter.

I'm not trying to be hypercritical, there are a lot of characters which have hit the nail on the head - to the ones I've already mentioned, you can add Charles Dance as Lord Tywin who is absolutely masterful, not to mention virtually the whole Stark family from Arya to Ned Stark.
 
I think they nailed all of the northmen. Especially the Starks. They liege lords were all done fantastically as well.

Renly looks off but then again they did change his character quite a bit from the books.
I thought Robert was brilliantly portrayed by Mark Addy.
Stephen Dillane pulls off the Stannis look and tone in my eyes but his character is more obviously influenced/controlled by Melisandre. In the books she was more subtle.

Lannisters have all been portrayed excellently including Joffrey and i think Charles Dances Tywin is actually more menacing than the book version.
Iain Glens Jorah Mormont is spot on.
Queen of Thorns perfect.
I love that guy they got to play Tormund Giantsbane too even if the character is changed quite a bit.
TV version of Bronn is better than book version.
 
This is gonna be creepy/epic. :l :l :l

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^

My 2 cents on that

Don't think we see her in the flesh until the end of the season, maybe a couple of episodes before that we see Beric finding her body, but than it switches to something else
 
I have started watching game of thrones recently( thanks to this thread) currently watching season 3. I have not read the books. I just have one question in the books are some characters gay? Or they have made some characters gay for TV?
 
niishaa said:
I have started watching game of thrones recently( thanks to this thread) currently watching season 3. I have not read the books. I just have one question in the books are some characters gay? Or they have made some characters gay for TV?
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well Renly is gay in the books, its just for more subtle and basically hinted at. In the show its pretty full blown (no pun intended) .
 
niishaa said:
I have started watching game of thrones recently( thanks to this thread) currently watching season 3. I have not read the books. I just have one question in the books are some characters gay? Or they have made some characters gay for TV?
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Maine Hum Aapke Hai Kaun bhi dekhi hai
 
pakistanigoneaussie said:
well Renly is gay in the books, its just for more subtle and basically hinted at. In the show its pretty full blown (no pun intended) .
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Stannis was hardly subtle about it.

Renly: “...I got Margaery. You’ll be pleased to know she came to me a maid.”
Stannis: “In your bed she’s like to die that way.”
 
pakistanigoneaussie said:
well Renly is gay in the books, its just for more subtle and basically hinted at. In the show its pretty full blown (no pun intended) .
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They overdid it in the tv version in my opinion. Renley and Ser Loras ended up looking like hairdressers rather than the warriors they were in the books. Played up the gay stereotype far too much. Despite all the criticisms I've aimed at the cast, I still love the show I should add.
 
Are they gonna have bloodraven show up as Bran's storyline is already following book 5. Also I am gonna miss Charles Dance after this season. E
 
Convict said:
Nope. Stannis in the books is very much his old man who whilst he does take Melisandres advice makes his own decisions because rightly or wrongly he considers them the right decisions to make.

He's in control and he is a King.

TV show Stannis is a lapdog.

They've also emphasised the sympathetic sides of many characters and completely whitewashed Tyrion. With Stannis they've emphasised his bad side.

His character doesn't change in the later books.
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Yes his character was one of the bigger departures from the literary version I felt. The other one was Ser Jorah - he was a bit of a two timing sleazo in the books (at least in the beginning). He's a lot more noble in the TV series.
 
On another note, I wonder what will happen another couple of seasons from now when the TV show catches up to the books. Because GRRM is notoriously slow with finishing stuff. I remember having to wait years for AFFC and then more years for ADWD. And some people who finished ASOS when it was released waited twice as long as I did.
 
Not a fan of the direction they are taking the Thenns , but otherwise a nice opener. Oberyn was great, and Granny Tyrell is still awsome.

Will be interesting to see how the Sansa/Brienne and Hound/Arya storylines progress given the changes from the books
 
Oberyn Martell was awesome. That dialogue 'Not just the Lannisters pay their debts' was cold! Wonderful episode to start off the things!
 
Good start I would say. Oberyn Martell is badass. The Joff continues to be a giant jerk. Was surprised to see Jaime with a new hairdo. Lol for a second, I thought the person following Sansa was Ned's ghost. :yk
 
So basically people here who have read the books are gonna spoil the rest of the season for those who haven't read the books? Great. Staying away from this thread.
 
The Hound bossing like always, Oberyn was pretty cool as well and of course the valyrian sword remaking scene was pretty epic.



overall, 7/10 episode. Not bad, nothing great.
 
2nd episode today.

But i am not going to watch episode by episode. There is hardly any progress in a single episode. Once the season gets finished then i will watch it within couple of days. This can fulfill the hunger. on the other hand one episode does not amount even to a single mouthful.
 
Guys please use the spoiler tag...

Just learn't of what happens to Oberyn, I was immediately a fan after his debut last week... The man is a bad ass :msd Do you think he did it on purpose?
 
Today's episode was quite interesting; delightfully turn of event so far. I finished 3 seasons quickly as possible after the popularity this show has received so far.

Finally, a unexpected tool, poison on glass, sealed the end of oppressive regime; however, this doesn't well on Tyrion Lannister who will be accused for the murder of King.
 
Aman said:
Guys please use the spoiler tag...

Just learn't of what happens to Oberyn, I was immediately a fan after his debut last week... The man is a bad ass :msd Do you think he did it on purpose?
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Oberyn spoilers

You mean does he die on purpose ? No, i just think he got cocky, he won his duel but didnt kill the mountain straight away as he wanted a confession

Who i think poisoned joffery

Granny tyrell did it with little finger imo, theres the whole hair net thing plus she would not want her Grandchild to be with Joffery who is a pycho, she would rather Tommen who is a nice kid and easily manipulated. Plus she is afraid Loras would kill Joffery for harming Margery and so start another war


Further spolier, dont read if you dont want to know of events after those that i posted above regarding Oberyn

In the books at least there is a fair bit of evidence he poisoned Tywin as well, dont know if that will play out in the Show, but remember Oberyn's out for revenge and he knows Tywin was the one giving orders
 
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pakistanigoneaussie said:
Oberyn spoilers

You mean does he die on purpose ? No, i just think he got cocky, he won his duel but didnt kill the mountain straight away as he wanted a confession

Who i think poisoned joffery



Granny tyrell did it with little finger imo, theres the whole hair net thing plus she would not want her Grandchild to be with Joffery who is a pycho, she would rather Tommen who is a nice kid and easily manipulated. Plus she is afraid Loras would kill Joffery for harming Margery and so start another war


Further spolier, dont read if you dont want to know of events after those that i posted above regarding Oberyn

In the books at least there is a fair bit of evidence he poisoned Tywin as well, dont know if that will play out in the Show, but remember Oberyn's out for revenge and he knows Tywin was the one giving orders
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Thank you !!! for spoilers:bhatti:bhatti:bhatti Joffery is poisoned and this not in spoiler....

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Feel terrible every time they bring back memories of Rob Stark man. :(
 
The show is undoubtedly brilliant, and possibly and the only adaption I've ever seen that gives the book a real run for its money but the character of Stannis is completely off in my opinion.
 
In the books Stannis burns Florent because he is a traitor who plots to marry off Stannis' daughter to the Lannisters.

In the show Stannis burns him because he is an infidel. And people say that they're not butchering Stannis
 
Stannis is my favorite character, but can completely understand why those who watch the TV show only underestimate him.
 
Apparently its just nudity lol.
Well seems like a dead show to me so I ent gonna watch it
 
Mamoon said:
Stannis is my favorite character, but can completely understand why those who watch the TV show only underestimate him.
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wow we actually have a similarity :akhtar

The battle at the wall will be make or break for stannis in this show. If he does bad stuff there he will always be a semi villain. I have hope that they will make that a moment which changes peoples opinon on the character. At the very least they are staying true to the book in regards to Stannis's relationship with his daughter
 
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pakistanigoneaussie said:
wow we actually have a similarity

The battle at the wall will be make or break for stannis in this show. If he does bad stuff there he will always be a semi villain. I have hope that they will make that a moment which changes peoples opinon on the character. At the very least they are staying true to the book in regards to Stannis's relationship with his daughter
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Prediction from another forum

the Wildlings are at camp, showering Jon with gifts and the songs of their people
Jon smiles, enjoying this valuable cultural experience
a cry is heard in the distance
suddenly, the camera pans to the thundering stampede of a thousand men on horses
we see Stannis driving the men to fight by cracking a flaming whip
"FORM RANKS, YOU DOGS"
in the distance, Wildling women and children are burning, the soundtrack a high screaming wail
"TAKE THE WOMEN FOR OUR THRALLS," Stannis shouts, "FEED THE BABES TO THE FIRES"
"Yes," cries Davos, "R'hllor hungers!"
Jon looks on, his face grief-stricken
"Seven save us," Jon whispers, "he's even making the women and children pay the Iron price!"

after defeating the Wildlings, Stannis meets Jon on top of the Wall
"You're the oathbreaking ******* that killed the Halfhand and copulated with a savage Wildling. You're just like your retarded brother and useless father, a traitor and an oathbreaker. Give me one reason why I shouldn't behead you."
"I'm the Lord Commander of the Night's Watch!" Jon pleas
"Davos, come here" Stannis beckons
"Your grace?" Davos asks
Stannis pushes Davos off the Wall
"Melisandre, quickly, get my guards. Lord Snow killed my Onion Knight."
 
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