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Stewie said:
Oh no, that wouldbe horrendous. There is more to it. This show is much more complex. A tale of human emotions, motivations, the tyranny of power and the spectrum of governance, with a fair smattering of religion in it.

Some say its about fascism vs absolute monarchy vs communism vs religious extremism....Some say its about the effects humans have on the environment and global warming.. some say its about slavery.. all those are pretty relevant and deep concepts and I want to know how the show or the author handles them towards the end, addresses the conflicts and does a realistic ending.
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As I said - most people would hate it.

I'd too probably but it'd be a fitting end in more than one way. There is no end to this story, there can never be a good end to this - it's like life with it's ebb and flows and and an unambiguous end to it would be sort of fitting.
 
This is shaping up to be the best ever season of GoT in my humble opinion. I am completely on the edge of my seat every Monday night at the moment.
 
James said:
This is shaping up to be the best ever season of GoT in my humble opinion. I am completely on the edge of my seat every Monday night at the moment.
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I knew you guys were ahead in the time zone but not by one day :uakmal

It airs on Sunday night here..
 
Already my favorite season, this show has gone to another level.

I was a bit disappointed by Summer's death since it felt pointless. He could have followed them.

But, at the same time, Bran was out so he couldn't control Summer, normal for the wolf to attack as he is just an animal.

For example in season 2 Robb's wolf attacked Great Jon on his own. Same with Arya's. It has been established since the start that direwolves are aggressive.
 
yasir said:
I am confused about how past, present and future are mixed up in the last few scenes of s6 ep5. If 'Hodor' was short for "Hold the door", when did he(Hodor) knew about it?? - He has being using this phrase all his life :13:

It was a very sad scene but I was more confused than Sad...

Also, it's not clear (too me atleast) which did Children of Forest did to create the white Walkers? - What they stab? How that created a deadly weapon like White Walker? - Does the book has more details??- Its more Voodoo than it should be :(
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Bran can change the past but any change that he makes has already happened in the past.

If he goes back to prevent Ned Stark getting beheaded, his actions are what will cause Ned Stark to get be headed like it happened. Because the changes he made have already happened, the past is fixed.

The children are powerful magicians but they are not very good at fighting, hence lost to invading humans.
 
endymion248 said:
Bran can change the past but any change that he makes has already happened in the past.

If he goes back to prevent Ned Stark getting beheaded, his actions are what will cause Ned Stark to get be headed like it happened. Because the changes he made have already happened, the past is fixed.

The children are powerful magicians but they are not very good at fighting, hence lost to invading humans.
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This is rather confusing...From future you go back to the past to be part of it, future is part of the past [emoji56][emoji56][emoji56]

In that episode line between three time line, past, present and future were blur...

How Hodor knew about 'Hold the door' event 20/30 years before that event, which end up shaping his entire life, an event that happen in future...origin of word Hodor was an event in future, but that word was used in past...This is confusing, I am not fully sold on the concept [emoji848][emoji848][emoji848]... Plus at one point past Hodor Could see future Bran and also saw his future, that was moment of all timelines converge to single point, making it more confusing...

It's like if Cricket is invented because of an event in 1700s, but people knew about that event in 1400s and are playing cricket because of that knowledge....This sort of thing do change the past, it's no more fixed, this is what time travel could do.

Technically they have shown time travel is not only possible but one can change history, but I don't think show is going to focus on that...Author has too many tricks up his sleeves to surprise the audience, he does not require lot of explanation either... As the writer go further up north, magic, fantasy will be there to help him out!!


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yasir said:
This is rather confusing...From future you go back to the past to be part of it, future is part of the past [emoji56][emoji56][emoji56]

In that episode line between three time line, past, present and future were blur...

How Hodor knew about 'Hold the door' event 20/30 years before that event, which end up shaping his entire life, an event that happen in future...origin of word Hodor was an event in future, but that word was used in past...This is confusing, I am not fully sold on the concept [emoji848][emoji848][emoji848]... Plus at one point past Hodor Could see future Bran and also saw his future, that was moment of all timelines converge to single point, making it more confusing...

It's like if Cricket is invented because of an event in 1700s, but people knew about that event in 1400s and are playing cricket because of that knowledge....This sort of thing do change the past, it's no more fixed, this is what time travel could do.

Technically they have shown time travel is not only possible but one can change history, but I don't think show is going to focus on that...Author has too many tricks up his sleeves to surprise the audience, he does not require lot of explanation either... As the writer go further up north, magic, fantasy will be there to help him out!!


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Think of it like an infinity of timelines but all timelines are the same.

So, in timeline n, Bran is born, gets the dreams, goes back and influences child Hodor in timeline n+1.

Then in timeline n+1, Hodor grows up simple-minded and repeating Hodor. He helps Bran become greenseer, Bran goes back in time and influences Hodor in timeline n+2.

In timeline n+2, Hodor grows up simple minded etc...

Bran has no way to change the past beyond what happened because, if he had, then it would mean that Bran from timeline n-1 would have done it too, hence the present would be different.

So Bran can influence Hodor in timeline n+1 because Hodor in his own timeline has been influenced by Bran from timeline n-1.

But if he goes back to save his father, that won't work. Because otherwise his father would still be alive in the present.
 
People trying to make sense of time travel in a fictional series. :facepalm:
 
Syed1 said:
People trying to make sense of time travel in a fictional series. :facepalm:
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Yo this is serious stuff. Winter is here.

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This season has been exceptional. Easily the best of the series so far.
 
I can see what their intentions are after reading up a bit on it but still for me at least what throws a real spanner in the works is that it happened well before Bran was even born. In that sense they are implying that the future is also already written? I just think they tried to unnecessarily be too clever here and ended up creating all this confusion.
 
endymion248 said:
Just because it's fictional doesn't mean it can't have consistent rules.
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Bro we are talking about a series in which there are dragons, folks are changing their faces and some are coming back from the dead, and here you are trying to solve the mystery of time travel :ibutt
 
aliasad1998 said:
Not even close to 3 and 4. The first 2 episodes of this mostly felt like filler and this last one was rushed
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I never really got 3. It has always been my wife's favourite, but I feel that a lot of it is quite average.

Season 4 I will give you. That was fantastic.
 
James said:
I never really got 3. It has always been my wife's favourite, but I feel that a lot of it is quite average.

Season 4 I will give you. That was fantastic.
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They followed up season 4 with season 5 which was the absolute worse so far.
 
Season 1 and 2 were the best from an emotional point of view as I was attached the Stark storyline. Once all the starks died and lost political power, it was never the same. The latter seasons are good in a more ''going along'' way but there isn't any group of characters that you can really root for. For example, when Daenarys burned the Khals, it was interesting but it didn't really get the heart thumping like Robb capturing Jaime or Daenarys hatching the dragons.
 
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Was never huge on the Starks. Have always been more of a Tyrion and Daenarys man, with a bit of Jorah Mormont and The Wall thrown in.
 
James said:
Was never huge on the Starks. Have always been more of a Tyrion and Daenarys man, with a bit of Jorah Mormont and The Wall thrown in.
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The Starks follow very closely the archetypes of medieval stories and there is a lot of mystique around their ancestors (king in the north, direwolves, wargs, there must always be a stark in Winterfell, Bran the builder, First men). So that makes all Stark characters as a whole interesting, even someone as blank as Rickon.

While Daenarys and Tyrion are interesting characters but they are interesting on their own, not interesting as a faction or as a group. Similarly, the Wall is not a family. It's not a bloodline saga like the Starks.
 
Syed1 said:
Some times I even amaze myself


Wow wow wow :raja
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You nailed it[emoji1360][emoji1360][emoji1360]

Is Drogo fully developed or need more meat? [emoji848][emoji848][emoji848]looks like ready to me!!

His entry was impressive [emoji33][emoji33][emoji33]

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Is this the first time they showed mad King? [emoji15][emoji15][emoji15]


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The waif is out to kill Arya which, to me, is a bit weird. Why would the faceless men let the waif hold a grudge and not Arya? I have a feeling Arya will kill the waif and Jaqen H'ghar will turn out to be Syrio Forel telling her that her training is now complete.

Also expecting Sandor Clegane to return in the next episode for the Trial.
 
James said:
Was never huge on the Starks. Have always been more of a Tyrion and Daenarys man, with a bit of Jorah Mormont and The Wall thrown in.
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Anyone who transforms from a communist or socialist to a capitalist has that view because the world doesn't work like the Starks!
 
Episode 6 was kind of weak, but it was needed to set-up the remainder of the series and all the major plotlines like Arya's.

And what about the dragon eh? Fully grown now and everything. Though how does Daenarys all of a sudden have control over it? :13:
 
Tyrion and Arya were my favourite characters at the end of season 4. Now I hope Arya dies so we wont have to see this random filler rubbish anymore
 
Suleiman said:
Episode 6 was kind of weak, but it was needed to set-up the remainder of the series and all the major plotlines like Arya's.

And what about the dragon eh? Fully grown now and everything. Though how does Daenarys all of a sudden have control over it? :13:
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I think they kinda allocated budget to animating dragons and all that.

That could be the only plausible explanation.
 
Drogon's a big boy now eh? How much bigger will they grow? Brontosaurus size?
 
In the books do we know the sex of Dany's three dragons?

I wanna know if one of them is a femme so that we can have more dragon babies..
 
Bit of a dull episode but should be worth it in the end, when all of the steadily progressing storylines come to a head.
 
Robert said:
Drogon's a big boy now eh? How much bigger will they grow? Brontosaurus size?
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I recall Tywin or someone saying in season 1 or 2 that they grow bigger than castles?

Probably one of them will die early, already the other 2 dragons' growth has been stunted by being locked up for a while according to Tyrion
 
A bit underwhelming episode. We knew benjen was going to show up sooner or later. Arya is probably going to be done with the many faced society crap and travel back to Westeros soon. I think she will take out Jaimie and Cersei eventually.
 
Tommen is a total fool, hoping this is all part of a plan by him and the Queen to get the Sparrow into a false sense of security and then destroy the religion. Nobody talks to mah boy Jaime like that.
 
James said:
Bit of a dull episode but should be worth it in the end, when all of the steadily progressing storylines come to a head.
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GOT follows tik tak pattern, one episode sets up the play and action happens in second one...

I can see two battles in this season, one of them has to be in next two episode and the final one in the last...

plus Queen has to come on the other side of the sea... And if WW are real villains, there has to be more to their story line than bunch of glass guys walking with Zombies, after 6 seasons that's all we know about them.


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Donal Cozzie said:
Tommen is a total fool, hoping this is all part of a plan by him and the Queen to get the Sparrow into a false sense of security and then destroy the religion. Nobody talks to mah boy Jaime like that.
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Kingslayer should slay that clown, insult to the iron throne that guy. Even Joffrey had spine.
 
Donal Cozzie said:
Tommen is a total fool, hoping this is all part of a plan by him and the Queen to get the Sparrow into a false sense of security and then destroy the religion. Nobody talks to mah boy Jaime like that.
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Jaime needs to administer some paddlin' on his son..
 
Suleiman said:
Kingslayer should slay that clown, insult to the iron throne that guy. Even Joffrey had spine.
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Jimmie does not have any relationship with his son, his son does not feel anything about his father, which is unusual...Jimmie is not a thinker, his other siblings are much better, he is all about sword power...

As a king, he will evolve better than his brother and father, so far all these are puppet kings, more like Nawaz and Zardari, who really don't have any power, nor the brains, ready to be Slain [emoji6][emoji6][emoji6]


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I'm curious about the Frey storyline want to see whether Frey Pies are included here! Blackfish's nephew is useless hope his uncle doesn't die for him considering Jamie is coming there as well.
 
JaDed said:
I'm curious about the Frey storyline want to see whether Frey Pies are included here! Blackfish's nephew is useless hope his uncle doesn't die for him considering Jamie is coming there as well.
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Lol you are underestimating Black fish.He's one the finest warriors in the 7 kingdoms not to mention his astute political skills.He's not going down that easily .
 
TM Riddle said:
Lol you are underestimating Black fish.He's one the finest warriors in the 7 kingdoms not to mention his astute political skills.He's not going down that easily .
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The problem with these finest "warriors" in GOT universe is that they fall short of their name every single time as i said i hope for the best considering they are really moving too fast now,looks like 1000 ships might be ready by end of the season.
 
JaDed said:
The problem with these finest "warriors" in GOT universe is that they fall short of their name every single time as i said i hope for the best considering they are really moving too fast now,looks like 1000 ships might be ready by end of the season.
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Yes all of these "finest warriors" get beaten by lulloos fairly easily..
 
JaDed said:
The problem with these finest "warriors" in GOT universe is that they fall short of their name every single time as i said i hope for the best considering they are really moving too fast now,looks like 1000 ships might be ready by end of the season.
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It would look really stupid to bring such a major character back after a long time and then just kill him off like that.In books too he manages to escape the siege jamie laid around his castle.The guy has potential,mark my words.
 
Can't decide whose the worst actor on the show: Emilia Clarke or Kit Harrington.

Randyll Tarly looks exactly as I pictured him. Great casting.
 
Mamoon said:
Can't decide whose the worst actor on the show: Emilia Clarke or Kit Harrington.

Randyll Tarly looks exactly as I pictured him. Great casting.
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Emilia Clarke for sure. At least Harrington has his moments.
 
aliasad1998 said:
Emilia Clarke for sure. At least Harrington has his moments.
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Despite being such an awful actor she sure gets a lot of limelight.Compare that to Natalie Dormer who imo is really underrated as an actress and far better looking than her
 
TM Riddle said:
Despite being such an awful actor she sure gets a lot of limelight.Compare that to Natalie Dormer who imo is really underrated as an actress and far better looking than her
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Natalie Dormer for me is the most beautiful woman on the show. Theres just something about her and the way she talks.Good actress too. Not amazing but good
 
Please tell me when's this khaleesi going to die?! I hate her to the core.. Her scenes always end up being awful despite how the showrunners want us to think..
 
Sandeep said:
Please tell me when's this khaleesi going to die?! I hate her to the core.. Her scenes always end up being awful despite how the showrunners want us to think..
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Some fans actually enjoy Khaleesis scenes. I find them garbage along with Aryas (post season 4).
 
aliasad1998 said:
Natalie Dormer for me is the most beautiful woman on the show. Theres just something about her and the way she talks.Good actress too. Not amazing but good
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You should have seen her in The Tudors.
 
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aliasad1998 said:
Natalie Dormer for me is the most beautiful woman on the show. Theres just something about her and the way she talks.Good actress too. Not amazing but good
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I think her beauty is overrated. Sophie Turner is a better looking actress.
 
Mamoon said:
Can't decide whose the worst actor on the show: Emilia Clarke or Kit Harrington.

Randyll Tarly looks exactly as I pictured him. Great casting.
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Kit has improved a lot from season 1. Emilia seems to have regressed
 
Donal Cozzie said:
Tommen is a total fool, hoping this is all part of a plan by him and the Queen to get the Sparrow into a false sense of security and then destroy the religion. Nobody talks to mah boy Jaime like that.
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It is definitely Margery's plan and she thinks of her family (Tyrells) before others. There is no way she is going to let foolish Tonmen in the plan
 
Donal Cozzie said:
Tommen is a total fool, hoping this is all part of a plan by him and the Queen to get the Sparrow into a false sense of security and then destroy the religion. Nobody talks to mah boy Jaime like that.
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I'd be surprised if Tommen is able to survive till the end of this season. His passing is inevitable, considering the way the story is headed and also the prophecy that Cersei received (all three of her children will die infront of her)
 
Truede on reddit leaked most of the season three to four weeks ago and all his prediction have come right so far

Things to happen
1) Tommen will die by committing suicide
2)Hound will come back
3) John true parents will be revealed in the finale episode
4)John does become King of the North
5)Rickon Stark gets killed

"Ramsay and Jon meet across the battlefield. Ramsay releases Rickon and tells him to run toward his brother. As Rickon runs, Ramsay starts shooting arrows up in the air one at a time that keep missing him. Jon starts galloping toward Rickon but just as he reaches him, one of Ramsay's arrow hits him and he dies in Jon's arms. Sansa is the smart one. She tells Jon before the battle that Rickon is already dead."

6)John Snow doesn't kill Ramsey
 
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the books are better. way better. More detail more characters and the pacing is better. This season has been ok but the pacing is seriously off. Its moving very very quickly and therefore much detail is missing. Love the fact that benjin is back but sad cold hands isnt around. Still peed that lady stoneheart and the brotherhood are not in this. Berek dondarion was a badass in the books..In the books the freys are getting slaughtered left and right so not sure how this will fit into the books. The fact they didnt keep one of the best reveals from the books in the series was disappointing!

bring on the white walkers who will probably smash through the wall this season. I reckon we'll see the nights wathc turned to zombies by the end with John having to put down his old friends!!

As for the mother of dragons. well bring it on lol. I hope she lands on top of the lannisters heads and burns down their pathetic kingdom!! lol
 
Martin has revealed that Brienne is descendant of Duncan the tall lol eff!
 
shah_1 said:
Are you sure about this?

Or he gets to know about his real father and feels ashamed?
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Apparently he commits suicide because something happens to Margarine, have heard it has something to do with rats, Cerceis wrongdoing.
 
Have read about the theory that Bran made Mad King mad.

Apparently he talked to mad king in his vision to burn the white walkers and instead he went mad and started burning people. Really hope this theory comes true, why else would bran see him in his vision last episode.
 
Mamoon said:
Can't decide whose the worst actor on the show: Emilia Clarke or Kit Harrington.

Randyll Tarly looks exactly as I pictured him. Great casting.
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Emilia Clarke is a pretty good actress but she still acts like she is on stage rather than on a tv show. But if you watch a lot of plays, it's not really glaring.
 
endymion248 said:
Emilia Clarke is a pretty good actress but she still acts like she is on stage rather than on a tv show. But if you watch a lot of plays, it's not really glaring.
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She just can't pull off intense scenes.

Her speech at the end of the last episode was just cringeworthy. The scene had a lot of potential and a better actor/actress would have made it epic.
 
Jamie Lannister should have had his long hair in the Mad King flashback. It was a lazy effort.

Could have given him a wig, it was only a few seconds.
 
Just four more weeks.

After which 48 weeks of wait and torture for this to happen again.

Why do good people have to suffer in life? Why? Why? Why? Why?
 
Mamoon said:
Jamie Lannister should have had his long hair in the Mad King flashback. It was a lazy effort.

Could have given him a wig, it was only a few seconds.
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I know right! Facepalm moment but it was really epic, the way he was sitting on that throne waiting for Ned Starc
 
Mamoon said:
She just can't pull off intense scenes.

Her speech at the end of the last episode was just cringeworthy. The scene had a lot of potential and a better actor/actress would have made it epic.
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Don't think it was, it could have been good with the right context.

Mamoon said:
Jamie Lannister should have had his long hair in the Mad King flashback. It was a lazy effort.

Could have given him a wig, it was only a few seconds.
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Or maybe he used to have short hair? Why are book-readers obsessed with nit-picking everything :facepalm:
 
endymion248 said:
Or maybe he used to have short hair? Why are book-readers obsessed with nit-picking everything :facepalm:
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It is not nitpicking. It is just lazy directing.

Robert's Rebellion happened a good two decades ago. They should have done 'something' to make Jamie appear younger, instead of making it look like he killed the Mad King five minutes ago.

Just like they used a new actor to play a young Ned Stark, they could have used any random blonde guy to play Jamie for a few seconds, if they didn't want to give him a wig.

Yes Sean Bean isn't part of the cast anymore so they had to use a new guy, but it is no excuse for not making any attempt to make Jamie look younger/different.
 
Mamoon said:
It is not nitpicking. It is just lazy directing.

Robert's Rebellion happened a good two decades ago. They should have done 'something' to make Jamie appear younger, instead of making it look like he killed the Mad King five minutes ago.

Just like they used a new actor to play a young Ned Stark, they could have used any random blonde guy to play Jamie for a few seconds, if they didn't want to give him a wig.

Yes Sean Bean isn't part of the cast anymore so they had to use a new guy, but it is no excuse for not making any attempt to make Jamie look younger/different.
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Here's a crazy idea: Jaime used to have shorter hair in his youth.
 
Can people please use the spoiler button if youre gonna post book spoilers for events that havent even happened on the show yet. Please!!

Or preferably you wont mention them at all since the majority of us havent read the books.
 
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