Game of Thrones [SPOILER ALERT]

[pakistanigoneaussie]

I really loved this episode but the throwbacks to lotr are pretty obvious





Lotr will always have the greatest battle scenes IMO , but this episode was second, even better then the forest fight in gladiator

 

[Stewie]

LOL @those who are analysing a TV show character's militaristic prowess. You guys do realize he came back from the dead!

I treat it as exactly what it is. A fantasy tv show with wonderful battles and story twists and a hero with a heart of heroism. END OF STORY, AND A JOB WELL DONE, JON SNOW!

 

[Stewie]

I really loved this episode but the throwbacks to lotr are pretty obvious


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Lotr will always have the greatest battle scenes IMO , but this episode was second, even better then the forest fight in gladiator

Nothing comes close to LOTR, its like the grand daddy of medieval epic fantasy battle scenes..

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Nothing comes close to LOTR, its like the grand daddy of medieval epic fantasy battle scenes..

yep,


The reason we have GOT is because of LOTR, even the showrunner admit that

 

[yasir]

An emotional mouse running straight into a trap isn't brave, it is dumb. John already had an impossible task at hand with only 3000 men. He asked his men to follow a strategy and then blew any chance his army had in a moment of rage.

Sansa on the other hand pre-empted Ramsay's move so well. She knew he was going to use Rickon to play games, something an emotional John couldn't see coming. John's leadership was poor, and it was sheer luck that his men didn't find their graves in the battlefield.

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Sansa did not told Jon about the Little Finger help at all... That could have saved many lives and a whole different battle plan... She was not completely honest with him, sort of using him for her fight... Where as Jon did what ever he could done and went after Ramsey with all he got, you can also call that stupid too, but that's who he is... That is his strength too, one of the reason many people like him... He build himself entirely from scratch, after all he is a Ba$tard, nothing fall on his plate because of blood also he did not get to this position by back stabbing others nor for the throne!!!

He is becoming larger than life leader, unlike others who cannot see pass their own selfish needs!!! - Daenerys is another one who is shaping up on similar lines...After 6 seasons these two are emerging as very different leaders, which the world would need in the final war of Fire and Ice !!!

 

[Strike Rate]

Really enjoyed this episode and this is the quality GoT had in first 4 season that went down hill from the start of season 5. This one episode should be the reason to rate this season high after all those garbage episodes this season.

 

[Strike Rate]

Sansa is probably the most selfish and emotionless stark in the series and this fact is never going to change we saw it from episode one to till now in almost every episode she can join evil forces for her own agendas against her own family anytime i don't trust this selfish girl.

I mean your younger brother is dead and you are smiling? A basterd on the other hand is fighting for survival of the family and name that never truly accepted him.

I will take Snow any day of the week over these starks all of them are either stupid or selfish.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Really enjoyed this episode and this is the quality GoT had in first 4 season that went down hill from the start of season 5. This one episode should be the reason to rate this season high after all those garbage episodes this season.

i think they were doing fine uptill episode 6


episode one was okay bar the the dorne castorphe ( waste of brilliant character and actor ), two was great, 3 and 4 had there moments have 5 was on the best ever


though it is clear that when the writes are left to their own things start going wrong, it started with the stannis storyline and is now becoming more evident.

I also think a major issue that much of the filler episode in previous seasons were made great due to conversation between tyrion and twyin. Ones dead the other is bascially a sidekick now

 

[Strike Rate]

i think they were doing fine uptill episode 6


episode one was okay bar the the dorne castorphe ( waste of brilliant character and actor ), two was great, 3 and 4 had there moments have 5 was on the best ever


though it is clear that when the writes are left to their own things start going wrong, it started with the stannis storyline and is now becoming more evident.

I also think a major issue that much of the filler episode in previous seasons were made great due to conversation between tyrion and twyin. Ones dead the other is bascially a sidekick now

I saw divided opinion on rest of the season some enjoyed it and some including me felt the quality wasn't that great this season. The limited role of tyrion and little finger is also one of the reason people didn't enjoyed much because these 2 were like the faces of GoT so people always expected more of them in episodes but story is changed now so can't blame the team of GoT for limiting their roles.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

God this episode was good. This episode was too good.

 

[Stewie]

True... A bit early to label this a total failure. The next two look pretty exciting...

I hate to say but I had called it when Saj and some others had dismissed this season as the worst of it last week

I agree it has not been consistently exciting but Ep 9 was epic and from the looks of it, the finale seems pretty intriguing as well.

 

[BaaliSoda]

Despite this week's big battle (+ revenge) episode, I felt this season's GOT was a inconsistent mess with some really bad writing. My biggest gripe was non-usage or under usage of some important GOT characters (little finger. in particular) while so much time spent on incredibly boring plots/arcs (Arya's + Meeran's, in particular) with loads of filler stuff.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

I know its just a TV show so can't compare but it is a testament to the greatness of the Lord of The Rings trilogy that despite coming out much more than a decade ago, the battle scenes looked much better and had a far larger scale than the biggest battle in the show. Still it was an average season but this was an amazing episode.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

I know its just a TV show so can't compare but it is a testament to the greatness of the Lord of The Rings trilogy that despite coming out much more than a decade ago, the battle scenes looked much better and had a far larger scale than the biggest battle in the show. Still it was an average season but this was an amazing episode.

Because they relied on practical effects much like this episode

It's far more awe inspiring when it's real people slogging it out and much of the horses are real as well

My biggest issue with the hobbit was the over abundance of cgi, Peter Jackson became lazy. Those humans covered in makeup playing orcs were far more rivitting then cgi figures playing whack whack with dwarves. The white walkers have also been guys in makeup ( just the eyes are special effects). Makes it so much more gripping

 

[Robert]

Loved it. Amazed at how good the aerial shots of the Pyramid looked.

Sure Jon Snow lost the plot and forgot his tactics, sure there was a deus ex machina Ride of the Rohirrim, but everyone got what was coming to them in the most satisfying episode since 'Hardhome' at least.

 

[Robert]

The white walkers have also been guys in makeup ( just the eyes are special effects).

My friend's firm makes those contact lenses.

 

[Stewie]

My friend's firm makes those contact lenses.

you need to hook me up then. I think that would be an awesome get up for halloween

 

[Robert]

Despite this week's big battle (+ revenge) episode, I felt this season's GOT was a inconsistent mess with some really bad writing. My biggest gripe was non-usage or under usage of some important GOT characters (little finger. in particular) while so much time spent on incredibly boring plots/arcs (Arya's + Meeran's, in particular) with loads of filler stuff.

Arya's hit list had yet to be addressed - Cersei and her best mate The Mountain are on it.....

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I know its just a TV show so can't compare but it is a testament to the greatness of the Lord of The Rings trilogy that despite coming out much more than a decade ago, the battle scenes looked much better and had a far larger scale than the biggest battle in the show. Still it was an average season but this was an amazing episode.

I would put that down to the author. He's been clever enough to break down global issues down to the smallest family unit and that is why it has struck a cord with PP members.

 

[Suleiman]

Sansa is probably the most selfish and emotionless stark in the series and this fact is never going to change we saw it from episode one to till now in almost every episode she can join evil forces for her own agendas against her own family anytime i don't trust this selfish girl.

I mean your younger brother is dead and you are smiling? A basterd on the other hand is fighting for survival of the family and name that never truly accepted him.

I will take Snow any day of the week over these starks all of them are either stupid or selfish.

No I think Sansa was really clever and did her part well this time around. Interesting character development for her throughout the show. Season 1 and 2 she was the maiden in distress who simply wanted to be pampered but got abused throughout Kings Landing and finally at the hands of the Boltons which broke her and made her more cold and calculating as we saw in this episode. Even her brother's death didn't cause her to shed a tear.

She can become quite a bada$s from here like Caitlin Stark. Had more street smarts now than she did before.

 

[GoUgandaCranes]

John Snow still knows nothing. He got one free resurrection and he still does this and almost loses all his army. Like why not give that giant a special weapon or something? Why not send someone else to try to save the other Stark boy?

Sansa's coming of age is interesting. Finally the Starks are getting the hang of being ruthless.

That said - I am really upset that there is only one episode left. Where did the 10 weeks go? I've no God Damn clue.

 

[Dead Ball]

One of the most entertaining hours of TV i've seen since Breaking Bad's 'Ozymandias'

Cannot believe people are comparing borderline children's fiction like LOTR to GoT.

While LOTR's battle scene was excellent and has stood the test of time, it was nowhere close to as realistic as BoB. Hell, i remember Aragorn and Legolas making jokes as they bloodless-ly slaughtered enemies, and we knew none of the heroes would die.

 

[Robert]

Cannot believe people are comparing borderline children's fiction like LOTR to GoT.

While LOTR's battle scene was excellent and has stood the test of time, it was nowhere close to as realistic as BoB. Hell, i remember Aragorn and Legolas making jokes as they bloodless-ly slaughtered enemies, and we knew none of the heroes would die.

Tolkien fought in the WW1 trenches, while Martin was a conscientious objector. Maybe the former had seen so much real violence that he didn't want to put much of it to paper.

One is an extraordinary attempt at a myth cycle for the English, the other is a political / war story with fantasy elements heavily borrowed from old JRR.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

My friend's firm makes those contact lenses.

Really. That's pretty awsome, I heard there were digitally enchanced, but this is even better

 

[Indiafan]

John Snow was such a lullu today, almost got his entire army killed. Sansa is a million times better leader.

Sansa tricked him. He would not have attacked so early if he knew LF was coming. Sansa was directly responsible for lots of deaths. She also looked upset that Jon was alive

 

[waqar goraya]

Great battle scene with a lot of drama around Jon Snow. I enjoyed Night's watch's defence of the wall against wildlings even more so.

So now Sansa has taken over the role of Ramsey?

 

[endymion248]

"What kind of God would do that?"

"The one we've got"

Such a great line, love the new Melisandre.

 

[Hawkeye]

I've heard that Sansa is going to kill Snow.

Something big is coming up next episode... Martin is going to remove a character.

 

[Dead Ball]

I've heard that Sansa is going to kill Snow.

Something big is coming up next episode... Martin is going to remove a character.

Nope,that doesn't make any sense.

My theory is Cersei will die.

Cersei, now having lost everything including her son's support, will go mental and attempt to burn down the city using wildfire (which she hinted at, a couple of episodes back) and Jamie will be forced to kill her, just like he impaled the mad king.

Now that would be a perfect ending to the season

 

[JaDed]

I've heard that Sansa is going to kill Snow.

Something big is coming up next episode... Martin is going to remove a character.

Why not Frey killing Jamie?

 

[Sandeep]

Nope,that doesn't make any sense.

My theory is Cersei will die.

Cersei, now having lost everything including her son's support, will go mental and attempt to burn down the city using wildfire (which she hinted at, a couple of episodes back) and Jamie will be forced to kill her, just like he impaled the mad king.

Now that would be a perfect ending to the season

This makes perfect sense. Jaime's emotional trauma would be great to watch, given how he categorically stated he will kill anyone for Cersei. The prophecy will also be fulfilled. All bases covered.

 

[MRSN]

This makes perfect sense. Jaime's emotional trauma would be great to watch, given how he categorically stated he will kill anyone for Cersei. The prophecy will also be fulfilled. All bases covered.

would make the show a dull a bit don't you think?Cersai has to stay. just because of his great acting and real rival for Starks and Daenerys stormborn girl,Mother of dragons, toaster of breads .etc

Hawkeye's prediction would make more sense really. Cersai is a key character if this show is to go on.

 

[Hawkeye]

Nope,that doesn't make any sense.

My theory is Cersei will die.

Cersei, now having lost everything including her son's support, will go mental and attempt to burn down the city using wildfire (which she hinted at, a couple of episodes back) and Jamie will be forced to kill her, just like he impaled the mad king.

Now that would be a perfect ending to the season

That would make the show too predictable.

Episode 9 was 100% predictable too, no suspense.

 

[MRSN]

Don't know why but i really wanted Ramsey to win this one,John is useless would had lost the battle if it wasn't for woman empowerment.

me too. Ramsey had Jon cornered with his brilliant tactics,lucky Jon got away.

 

[Sandeep]

would make the show a dull a bit don't you think?Cersai has to stay. just because of his great acting and real rival for Starks and Daenerys stormborn girl,Mother of dragons, toaster of breads .etc

Hawkeye's prediction would make more sense really. Cersai is a key character if this show is to go on.

Ramsey's death already left a void in all our hearts. Basically you won't hate anyone if Cersei goes too, that I agree. But don't you think the scenes in King's Landing were very unnecessary this season and slowed down the show? I hope we can get done with that stupid storyline in this finale.

With only 14 episodes remaining, the fans deserve some action.

 

[Syed1]

Ramsey's death already left a void in all our hearts. Basically you won't hate anyone if Cersei goes too, that I agree. But don't you think the scenes in King's Landing were very unnecessary this season and slowed down the show? I hope we can get done with that stupid storyline in this finale.

With only 14 episodes remaining, the fans deserve some action.

Actually there is going to be a season 7 and a season 8. HBO already confirmed so we have atleast 21 more episodes left including the last one in the ongoing season..

 

[MRSN]

Ramsey's death already left a void in all our hearts. Basically you won't hate anyone if Cersei goes too, that I agree. But don't you think the scenes in King's Landing were very unnecessary this season and slowed down the show? I hope we can get done with that stupid storyline in this finale.

With only 14 episodes remaining, the fans deserve some action.

can't blame her. the writers have been poor this season. storyline haven't been great with Daenerys or Arya either...and then the pointless scenes with Black Fish..Even Tyrion looked boring.

14 episodes is a lot of time and I don't think GOT can stand without Cersai for that long.

 

[Dead Ball]

Actually there is going to be a season 7 and a season 8. HBO already confirmed so we have atleast 21 more episodes left including the last one in the ongoing season..

The last two seasons will be seven episodes each.

 

[Logical]

Ramsey nooooo.

Ok who do i hate now ?

 

[BaaliSoda]

I am gonna continue my hate on Sansa for being such an irritating character from the 1st season 1st episode.

 

[Hawkeye]

I am gonna continue my hate on Sansa for being such an irritating character from the 1st season 1st episode.

this!!!

Always been so annoying and irritating, and I guess she's the one who is going to turn real evil.

Next Cersei in the making. Mark my words.

 

[BaaliSoda]

this!!!

Always been so annoying and irritating, and I guess she's the one who is going to turn real evil.

Next Cersei in the making. Mark my words.

I haven't read any of GOT books so i do not know whether the girl's character is same bloody awful as it is the show. From the beginning she has always almost made sure that her family and friends suffered due to her stupidity. Particularly in this season she has been even more obnoxious and dominating what was once very likable Jon snow character (which is now a certified wuss with no meaningful dialogues or part in the show).

I don't know what is this fascination with such illogical character development by TV show creators. This is the kind of Character Grimm used to have via Juliette (god, save me) and Homeland used to have via lead actor's daughter (unbearably awful). I hated all of them and this one Sansa character takes the cake among them.

I wish nothing but ill for this character.

 

[Stewie]

Why not Frey killing Jamie?

i think thats what we are going to get. The Frey is gonna pull a Lannister on Lannister. I could be wrong though.

In the overall bigger picture, I personally dont really see a place for Jaime's character anymore.

 

[Robert]

"What kind of God would do that?"

"The one we've got"

Such a great line, love the new Melisandre.

Not seen what price she has had to pay for bringing Jon back yet.....

 

[Zak_Fan]

Rickon reflects on the run. )

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[Stewie]

Not seen what price she has had to pay for bringing Jon back yet.....

she is a 200 year old witch. What price can she possibly pay? She should have died years ago and she will probably end up dying and looking like a shriveled chhowara before they burn her or bury her.

Thats the best possible outcome! You should look up the word chhowara by British friend. Its the urdu word for extremely dried dates, you know the one they distribute at nikkahs and valimas. Here are two more words you can look up.

 

[endymion248]

The Starks are back baby.

 

[CricFan2012]

Well everything in the episode except Snow becoming king of the north was already known

 

[blackanhyellow]

Yes Arya! Great scene.

Littlefinger is getting in Sansa's head. She is going to do something stupid again I get the feeling. Why is her character shown as so stupid? Never learns from her mistakes and always trusts the wrong people.

Dany has the greyjoys, tyrells, martells, unsullied, dothraki, and dragons behind her. I am also guessing Dany will marry Jon (her nephew?) to get the North behind her too.

 

[GenericBrand]

ABSOLUTE WORST TIME TO BE SITTING ON THE IRON THRONE!!

What will Cersei be the Queen of exactly? The North pretty much seceded from the rest of the kingdom and will probably be busy fight the WWs. Also if I recall correctly Tywin mentioned in the previous seasons the Martells can field 80k-100k men, which have now gone and sided with Daenerys LOL. Dorne I'm also sure has a fresh unscathed army ready for Daenerys . The Lannisters probably don't even have a sizeable army anymore, and they have lost all their allies.

Littlefinger is getting in Sansa's head. She is going to do something stupid again I get the feeling. Why is her character shown as so stupid? Never learns from her mistakes and always trusts the wrong people.

Really? I had the opposite impression, more along the lines of 'Well played Sansa'. She let the other lords swear fealty to Jon happily and with no problems knowing that would screw over LF since he wanted her to take power. She already called out LF on his duplicity and knows well enough he's not to be trusted, so she put a wrench in his plans and also got him off her back, hence the angry LF look.

 

[Sandeep]

Great episode. All storylines have fallen into place and we're ready for some hardcore action next season. Reveal of Jon's parentage, Arya's entry in Frey house were the highlights. Mel might meet Arya in her way down south, just like how she prophesied in 3rd season - "We'll meet again". Lyanna Mormont - What a character! Bloody badass. Best of 'em all!

 

[blackanhyellow]

Really? I had the opposite impression, more along the lines of 'Well played Sansa'. She let the other lords swear fealty to Jon happily and with no problems knowing that would screw over LF since he wanted her to take power. She already called out LF on his duplicity and knows well enough he's not to be trusted, so she put a wrench in his plans and also got him off her back, hence the ****** off LF look.

You could be right. However the way I interpreted it was that she was first smiling when the North men were declaring Jon the king of the north. Then as she locked eyes with Littlefinger her smile disappeared, because she realized what Littlefinger predicted came true and Littlefinger gave her a look saying "I told you Jon was going to take the throne for himself".

I may have misread the whole situation, when I get time I will re-watch that scene.

 

[Suleiman]

Really good episode, people will say "but but it's predictable" when there really isn't much else to do at this stage of the storyline. All the surprises and twists happened early on, it's more about bringing the piece together and tying it up in this possible final season.

Though idk what is Sansa's thoughts atm? The last scene of her made me think that a ba$tard (can't really call him that anymore I think.. ) shouldn't be king over her as her desire ever since she was a child was to be the queen. So she will more than likely side with Baelish to fuel that desire and then backstab him at the end.

Interesting to see what they do with the iron borns especially after the "BUILD ME 1000 SHIPS"...

 

[GenericBrand]

You could be right. However the way I interpreted it was that she was first smiling when the North men were declaring Jon the king of the north. Then as she locked eyes with Littlefinger her smile disappeared, because she realized what Littlefinger predicted came true and Littlefinger gave her a look saying "I told you Jon was going to take the throne for himself".

I may have misread the whole situation, when I get time I will re-watch that scene.

Possibly, Sansa's expression could also be one of worry because now LF has totally become unpredictable in what he will plan next now since Jon has taken over. The scene earlier Sansa was calling Jon 'Lord' and accepted him as a Stark so I doubt she would be upset.

 

[Xoib]

You could be right. However the way I interpreted it was that she was first smiling when the North men were declaring Jon the king of the north. Then as she locked eyes with Littlefinger her smile disappeared, because she realized what Littlefinger predicted came true and Littlefinger gave her a look saying "I told you Jon was going to take the throne for himself".

I may have misread the whole situation, when I get time I will re-watch that scene.

Jon offer her the lordship beforehand but she declined so this is a moot point.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Just an amazing episode. Best season finale of the show so far along with 4. Blown away. Everything has come full circle just beautifully.

 

[blackanhyellow]

Jon offer her the lordship beforehand but she declined so this is a moot point.

Not really. Lordship versus King of the North. Which is greater? Seems like she is being cagey.

Also that scene happened before Sansa had that chat with Littlefinger when he told her about his ambitions.

We all know she dreamt of being queen since she was a young girl.

She did say "I only used to think about what I wanted and not about what I had". Which might be an indication that she supports Jon.

But as the Northerners were declaring Jon the King of the North, Sansa changed glances with Littlefinger and stopped smiling. If she was trying to say "I didn't fall for your tricks Littlefinger" then wouldn't she have kept smiling?

Littlefinger is a master at manipulating people. We won't know how much he got in her head until next season.

however like I said these scenes were open to interpretation and the directors probably did that on purpose.

 

[James]

ATG episode.

 

[BaaliSoda]

What an episode!

Such a moving one in all angles, extraordinarily emotion inducing on many levels (at least for me)

Totally digged Danny and Tyrion's conversation, Ser Davos's outburst, little finger's devious planning going kaput (sorta) and most importantly lady Mormont's final speech.

To me, this gotta be one of the best ever episodes from GOT.

Now the long wait starts for the next season #Sigh

 

[James]

With what now approaches across the Narrow Sea, the new Queen's time in office is probably going to be even shorter than Jeremy Corbyn's.

 

[blackanhyellow]

With what now approaches across the Narrow Sea, the new Queen's time in office is probably going to be even shorter than Jeremy Corbyn's.

There could be a chance that Dany is first convinced to fight against the White walkers before heading to kings landing as the white walkers are an existential threat especially with winter already here.

 

[James]

Cersei seems to have finally gone Full Antichrist. Brutally murdered every person of even modest influence in the capital all at once, sponsored the elongated torture of a young woman by a super-sized robotic death machine, and then did not even bat an eyelid at the suicide of her youngest son. She now truly wears a crown of thorns. (Lena Headey is now overdue an Emmy and/or a Golden Globe, by the way.)

 

[yasir]

Not really. Lordship versus King of the North. Which is greater? Seems like she is being cagey.

Also that scene happened before Sansa had that chat with Littlefinger when he told her about his ambitions.

We all know she dreamt of being queen since she was a young girl.

She did say "I only used to think about what I wanted and not about what I had". Which might be an indication that she supports Jon.

But as the Northerners were declaring Jon the King of the North, Sansa changed glances with Littlefinger and stopped smiling. If she was trying to say "I didn't fall for your tricks Littlefinger" then wouldn't she have kept smiling?

Littlefinger is a master at manipulating people. We won't know how much he got in her head until next season.

however like I said these scenes were open to interpretation and the directors probably did that on purpose.

I am not sure why people are thinking that there is something cooking between Sanas and Jon?

Sanas never had political ambitions, from the beginning she wanted to be a pretty Queen not a ruler like Cersi or Denaris... She is not a political person...She wanted to take revenge of his father and also from Ramsey but that's natural considering what happened to her...

She also had bad experience trusting men, at the same time Jon is the only one who can protect her and her family name more than she could, the way he almost gave away his life try to saving her brother was enough evidence....she has accepted Jon as Rob, father figure for house Stark... I don't see anything otherwise... These ideas will be reinforce next season with Jon's blood news and when Arya will be back.... I don't see any infighting among Stark.

I don't get why she will conspire against Jon?? - LF is least trust worthy guy...

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BTW: Jon has gone form ba$tard to most eligible King of entire realm[emoji15][emoji15][emoji15] - Blood of Stark and Targaryen, blood does not get better and pure than that... Two houses whose stock are claiming like anything...

Now it's pretty clear he will be second Tagaryen rider of Dragon and lead them to battle against WWs...

I think he is son of Rhaegar Targaryen and not Mad King, he may end up marrying Denaris... This will strengthen the bond between the two houses... He is the only one who has blood of both.

Question is, does Jon has Dragon blood? [emoji848][emoji848][emoji848] so far we have not seen Jon getting burnt by fire...who knows we may see evidence of dragon blood in next season, since now we all know he has Targaryen blood

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[waqar goraya]

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Was Ned's sister not married to Robert Baratheon? Why was she requesting Ned not to tell Robert about the child?

 

[Indiafan]

Spoiler

Was Ned's sister not married to Robert Baratheon? Why was she requesting Ned not to tell Robert about the child?

Spoiler

Lol she was never married to Robert. Rhaegar Targeryn allegedly abducted her and kept her captive.When Ned's brother (Brandon) went to complain to the king Aerys (Father of Rhaegar, Viserys and Danerys) he had already turned mad. He captured Brandon and called Ned's father Lord Rickon of winterfell. When he protested, Rickon was arrested as well

Rickon demanded trial by combat and the mad king named "fire" as his champion. He put Rickon on some planks and his people lit fire under him. Meanwhile he tied Brandon in the same room with a noose around his head just out of reach of his father. Brandon saw his father burn to death and was so desperate to save him that he choked to death on his noose trying to reach him

Of course, this made Robert and Ned rebel against the mad king. Tywin came with his Lannister army but when the gates was open he betrayed the mad king as he realized Ned and Robert will win. The mad king wanted to burn everything with wildfire and wanted Tywin king. Jamie was the only kingsgaurd there at that moment. He killed the mad king to save the city. When Ned came he saw that Jamie was sitting on the thorne

So the usual claim is that Rhaegar abducted and raped and tortured Lyanna and Robert seems to hate him. He killed Rhaegar in a war at the trident with his warhammer. However, from some clues people guess that Lyanna and Rhaegar were in love. In a tourney where Rhaegar won, instead of giving flowers to his wife, he gave Lyanna a and called her queen of love and beauty.

"Ned remembered the moment when all the smiles died, when Prince Rhaegar Targaryen urged his horse past his own wife, the Dornish Princess Elia Martell, to lay the queen of beauty’s laurel in Lyanna’s lap. He could see it still: a crown of winter roses, blue as frost.[5] ”
- thoughts of Eddard Stark"

Lyanna never loved Robert and thought he was a lustful drunkard. We also get clues from Ned's own thought where he never hates Rhaegar and thinks of him kindly. So most likely Lyanna willingl went with Rhaegar and Jon is their love child. This makes Danerys Jon's aunt.

Also Rhaegar was obsessed with prophecy. He believed his child would be the Prince who was Promised. His wife Elia Martell (Sister of Oberyn Martell) was too weak after having two kids and couldn't have a third one.

 

[Indiafan]

Not seen what price she has had to pay for bringing Jon back yet.....

Thoros had brought Beric back 7 times and has paid no price

 

[waqar goraya]

Spoiler

Lol she was never married to Robert. Rhaegar Targeryn allegedly abducted her and kept her captive.When Ned's brother (Brandon) went to complain to the king Aerys (Father of Rhaegar, Viserys and Danerys) he had already turned mad. He captured Brandon and called Ned's father Lord Rickon of winterfell. When he protested, Rickon was arrested as well

Rickon demanded trial by combat and the mad king named "fire" as his champion. He put Rickon on some planks and his people lit fire under him. Meanwhile he tied Brandon in the same room with a noose around his head just out of reach of his father. Brandon saw his father burn to death and was so desperate to save him that he choked to death on his noose trying to reach him

Of course, this made Robert and Ned rebel against the mad king. Tywin came with his Lannister army but when the gates was open he betrayed the mad king as he realized Ned and Robert will win. The mad king wanted to burn everything with wildfire and wanted Tywin king. Jamie was the only kingsgaurd there at that moment. He killed the mad king to save the city. When Ned came he saw that Jamie was sitting on the thorne

So the usual claim is that Rhaegar abducted and raped and tortured Lyanna and Robert seems to hate him. He killed Rhaegar in a war at the trident with his warhammer. However, from some clues people guess that Lyanna and Rhaegar were in love. In a tourney where Rhaegar won, instead of giving flowers to his wife, he gave Lyanna a and called her queen of love and beauty.

"Ned remembered the moment when all the smiles died, when Prince Rhaegar Targaryen urged his horse past his own wife, the Dornish Princess Elia Martell, to lay the queen of beauty’s laurel in Lyanna’s lap. He could see it still: a crown of winter roses, blue as frost.[5] ”
- thoughts of Eddard Stark"

Lyanna never loved Robert and thought he was a lustful drunkard. We also get clues from Ned's own thought where he never hates Rhaegar and thinks of him kindly. So most likely Lyanna willingl went with Rhaegar and Jon is their love child. This makes Danerys Jon's aunt.

Also Rhaegar was obsessed with prophecy. He believed his child would be the Prince who was Promised. His wife Elia Martell (Sister of Oberyn Martell) was too weak after having two kids and couldn't have a third one.

lol, just came back from the website gameofthrones.wikia.com after reading all about Lyana ,Elia, Rhaegar. It was irritating me since i finished the finale.
They leave almost everything to the last couple of episodes.

 

[GenericBrand]

I wonder if R+L=J will be canon in the books as well.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Just an amazing episode. Best season finale of the show so far along with 4. Blown away. Everything has come full circle just beautifully.

It really is building towards a tremendous final season. Last week's show and this one have been epic. The scene where the Houses of the north finally pledge their allegiance to Snow brought a lump to my throat.

 

[waqar goraya]

It really is building towards a tremendous final season. Last week's show and this one have been epic. The scene where the Houses of the north finally pledge their allegiance to Snow brought a lump to my throat.

Waiting for the night's king. That war beyond the war with the dead was amazing.

 

[Vorador]

Spoiler

Wait what? Jon isn't the son of Ned and Lyanna?

 

[Stewie]

I am not sure why people are thinking that there is something cooking between Sanas and Jon?

Sanas never had political ambitions, from the beginning she wanted to be a pretty Queen not a ruler like Cersi or Denaris... She is not a political person...She wanted to take revenge of his father and also from Ramsey but that's natural considering what happened to her...

She also had bad experience trusting men, at the same time Jon is the only one who can protect her and her family name more than she could, the way he almost gave away his life try to saving her brother was enough evidence....she has accepted Jon as Rob, father figure for house Stark... I don't see anything otherwise... These ideas will be reinforce next season with Jon's blood news and when Arya will be back.... I don't see any infighting among Stark.

I don't get why she will conspire against Jon?? - LF is least trust worthy guy...

Spoiler

BTW: Jon has gone form ba$tard to most eligible King of entire realm[emoji15][emoji15][emoji15] - Blood of Stark and Targaryen, blood does not get better and pure than that... Two houses whose stock are claiming like anything...

Now it's pretty clear he will be second Tagaryen rider of Dragon and lead them to battle against WWs...

I think he is son of Rhaegar Targaryen and not Mad King, he may end up marrying Denaris... This will strengthen the bond between the two houses... He is the only one who has blood of both.

Question is, does Jon has Dragon blood? [emoji848][emoji848][emoji848] so far we have not seen Jon getting burnt by fire...who knows we may see evidence of dragon blood in next season, since now we all know he has Targaryen blood

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He won't marry his phoophi

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I am not sure why people are thinking that there is something cooking between Sanas and Jon?

Sanas never had political ambitions, from the beginning she wanted to be a pretty Queen not a ruler like Cersi or Denaris... She is not a political person...She wanted to take revenge of his father and also from Ramsey but that's natural considering what happened to her...

She also had bad experience trusting men, at the same time Jon is the only one who can protect her and her family name more than she could, the way he almost gave away his life try to saving her brother was enough evidence....she has accepted Jon as Rob, father figure for house Stark... I don't see anything otherwise... These ideas will be reinforce next season with Jon's blood news and when Arya will be back.... I don't see any infighting among Stark.

I don't get why she will conspire against Jon?? - LF is least trust worthy guy...

Spoiler

BTW: Jon has gone form ba$tard to most eligible King of entire realm[emoji15][emoji15][emoji15] - Blood of Stark and Targaryen, blood does not get better and pure than that... Two houses whose stock are claiming like anything...

Now it's pretty clear he will be second Tagaryen rider of Dragon and lead them to battle against WWs...

I think he is son of Rhaegar Targaryen and not Mad King, he may end up marrying Denaris... This will strengthen the bond between the two houses... He is the only one who has blood of both.

Question is, does Jon has Dragon blood? [emoji848][emoji848][emoji848] so far we have not seen Jon getting burnt by fire...who knows we may see evidence of dragon blood in next season, since now we all know he has Targaryen blood

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When logic fails.

 

[Donal Cozzie]

Just an amazing episode. Best season finale of the show so far along with 4. Blown away. Everything has come full circle just beautifully.

After you spent the last 3 months (along with many others I might add) constantly moaning about how boring and crap this season is???

Bloody called it, called it weeks ago.

Amazin finale, amazing season, and Jaime is still alive so I'm happy haha.

Cannot freaking wait for next year.

 

[CricFan2012]

What's with everyone's obsession with Lyanna Mormont? All she's done is sided with Jon Snow and people think she's a badass. Lol some even want her on the iron throne

 

[Syed1]

Spoiler

Wait what? Jon isn't the son of Ned and Lyanna?

Spoiler

No the Starks do not have the same morality as the Lannistors

 

[niishaa]

Who are those little kids in the begining who help cersei ?? Did they appear in any previous episode ? Are they in the book and what are they called?

Thanks for the answers in advance.

 

[Suleiman]

Who are those little kids in the begining who help cersei ?? Did they appear in any previous episode ? Are they in the book and what are they called?

Thanks for the answers in advance.

Just like Varys used these "little birds", who were basically kid spies in the first and 2nd season, this new maester Qyburn (who modified The mountain) is using the same spies, who are just poor kids. He rewards them with candy and whatever like he did few episodes ago.

 

[Suleiman]

Just like Varys used these "little birds", who were basically kid spies in the first and 2nd season, this new maester Qyburn (who modified The mountain) is using the same spies, who are just poor kids. He rewards them with candy and whatever like he did few episodes ago.

[MENTION=131528]niishaa[/MENTION]

Actually no, he's not a maester but took over Varys's role as master of whisperers. Queens main advisor and conducts espionage, for which you need the child spies.

 

[niishaa]

[MENTION=131528]niishaa[/MENTION]

Actually no, he's not a maester but took over Varys's role as master of whisperers. Queens main advisor and conducts espionage, for which you need the child spies.

Thanks.