Game of Thrones [SPOILER ALERT]

[pakistanigoneaussie]

There were many satisfying moments in the finale but for me it's one thing that many people will pass over : jaime finally sees cersi for the monster she is. I felt the show was going back to jaime being a villian, he is far more interesting as a anti hero


Dorne still leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Alexander sigg is a great actor and Doran a great character who were utterly waisted to force a dumbed unearned feminist coup. I'm all for that stuff when it's done well like Danny, Margery / Olenna and Yara, but the sand snakes were crap and Doran being alive and in the Martell conspiracy with Varys would have been far better

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

I wonder if R+L=J will be canon in the books as well.

No way it couldn't be

 

[Donal Cozzie]

There were many satisfying moments in the finale but for me it's one thing that many people will pass over : jaime finally sees cersi for the monster she is. I felt the show was going back to jaime being a villian, he is far more interesting as a anti hero


Dorne still leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Alexander sigg is a great actor and Doran a great character who were utterly waisted to force a dumbed unearned feminist coup. I'm all for that stuff when it's done well like Danny, Margery / Olenna and Yara, but the sand snakes were crap and Doran being alive and in the Martell conspiracy with Varys would have been far better

Yeah I noticed that as well, plus since the prophecy is coming to pass we all know what'll happen next. Pretty sure Cersei doesnt even care at this stage what happens to her. Also interesting to note how Arya spared Jaime. The ****** in me is dreaming of him allying with the Starks and emerging victorious in the end but I think we all know a sad outcoe is most likely

Plus Arya holy hell, skinning and feeding his sons to him in a pie, christ that was dark haha.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Yeah I noticed that as well, plus since the prophecy is coming to pass we all know what'll happen next. Pretty sure Cersei doesnt even care at this stage what happens to her. Also interesting to note how Arya spared Jaime. The ****** in me is dreaming of him allying with the Starks and emerging victorious in the end but I think we all know a sad outcoe is most likely

Plus Arya holy hell, skinning and feeding his sons to him in a pie, christ that was dark haha.

The show hasn't delved into the whole ' little brother' aspect of the prophecy. If it it does happen then I can see Jaime killing cersi but dying as well, either or by suicide or killed by cersi at the same time.

Though I'd agree having jaime just leave and form some coalition with the Starks would be awsome. Problem is only Brienne and by extension Sansa can vouch for him. He did have a scene where he goaded Jon snow in season one.

Also it's interesting to note that all the current Starks bar Arya have positive thoughts towards Tyrion


The show deserves one happy ending at least though and that should be breinne and jaime

 

[endymion248]

There were many satisfying moments in the finale but for me it's one thing that many people will pass over : jaime finally sees cersi for the monster she is. I felt the show was going back to jaime being a villian, he is far more interesting as a anti hero


Dorne still leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Alexander sigg is a great actor and Doran a great character who were utterly waisted to force a dumbed unearned feminist coup. I'm all for that stuff when it's done well like Danny, Margery / Olenna and Yara, but the sand snakes were crap and Doran being alive and in the Martell conspiracy with Varys would have been far better

They should have had Doran kill the Sand Snakes and ally with Daenarys. Result would be the same but everybody prefers Doran over Sand Snakes.

 

[endymion248]

[MENTION=131528]niishaa[/MENTION]

Actually no, he's not a maester but took over Varys's role as master of whisperers. Queens main advisor and conducts espionage, for which you need the child spies.

He is a maester who was banned because he conducted human experiments.
Also he is now hand of the Queen for Cersei.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

They should have had Doran kill the Sand Snakes and ally with Daenarys. Result would be the same but everybody prefers Doran over Sand Snakes.

Dorne pretty much became redundant with the death of Prince Oberyn. Granted it was an exciting episode, but it left us with Doran who was basically only good for sitting in his armchair and the sand snakes who might be useful for providing belly dances once the Seven Kings showdown is over.

 

[Vorador]

Spoiler

No the Starks do not have the same morality as the Lannistors

Spoiler

That's questionable. Why did Ned never tell Catelyn? He looked guilty when Robert and him talk about it in the first season

 

[TM Riddle]

Dorne pretty much became redundant with the death of Prince Oberyn. Granted it was an exciting episode, but it left us with Doran who was basically only good for sitting in his armchair and the sand snakes who might be useful for providing belly dances once the Seven Kings showdown is over.

I remember [MENTION=3327]Indiafan[/MENTION] once talking about how awesome and intriguing sand snakes were.Lmao

 

[TM Riddle]

Great episode.A fitting ending to otherwise the worst season of all.The last two episodes made up a bit for otherwise a horrible season and I wish they do away with filler episodes for final two seasons.Loved the chanting King in the north.Gave me chills!

 

[Stewie]

Just when you thought you had seen al the action, they give us Cersei going all Don Corleone on Kings Landing.

HAHA, awesome! cut out a lot of undesirable characters..... I wanted Jaime to bite it as well but I guess he has to take out Cersei first.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

They should have had Doran kill the Sand Snakes and ally with Daenarys. Result would be the same but everybody prefers Doran over Sand Snakes.

the most laughable mistake of this cesepool is that Oberyn goes on about how they dont hurt young girls in dorne and is out for revenge for his sister. Lets resolve that by killing his brother , nephew and proving he was wrong about hurting young girls and disregarding a pretty conspiracy that Doran had in the books.


such a great show but this abomination just makes me cringe each time i think of it.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Dorne pretty much became redundant with the death of Prince Oberyn. Granted it was an exciting episode, but it left us with Doran who was basically only good for sitting in his armchair and the sand snakes who might be useful for providing belly dances once the Seven Kings showdown is over.

In the books Doran is far more interesting. Was a good ruler, at facevaule too gentle but was also part of a long term conspiracy to restore the targeryans and great political player in general. He has been out for revenge but was prepaired to play the long game and stay within some moral boundries

They could have easily done that here but went for an unearned feminist coup

 

[James]

The Dorne debacle is fast becoming GoT's equivalent of the 24 sub-plot where Kiefer Sutherland's wife contracts amnesia for 3 hours. LOL

 

[Robert]

Littlefinger is getting in Sansa's head. She is going to do something stupid again I get the feeling. Why is her character shown as so stupid? Never learns from her mistakes and always trusts the wrong people.

Oh, I think Sansa is turning into a stateswoman in the Queen Elizabeth I league.

 

[GenericBrand]

I don't see how Jaime would be allying himself with the Starks. You forgot the one tiny detail where he pushed Bran off a tower and made him crippled. Bran is coming back, and he remembers.

Spoiler

That's questionable. Why did Ned never tell Catelyn? He looked guilty when Robert and him talk about it in the first season

Dude, its kinda implied she was impregnated by Rhaegar. How the heck would it be Ned's and Lyanna's child, when the latter was kidnapped (hence the start of the war) and was locked up in a tower guarded by Targaryens throughout the entire war til Ned found her at the end giving childbirth...

He never told anyone because she probably made him promise to keep it a secret, because what would you think Robert would do if he found out his bride-to-be gave birth to a possible love-child with his enemy, this dude had no qualms with Targaryen babes being killed when the capital got sacked.

 

[JaDed]

Isn't Sansa on Arya's list as well?

 

[Donal Cozzie]

I don't see how Jaime would be allying himself with the Starks. You forgot the one tiny detail where he pushed Bran off a tower and made him crippled. Bran is coming back, and he remembers.



Dude, its kinda implied she was impregnated by Rhaegar. How the heck would it be Ned's and Lyanna's child, when the latter was kidnapped (hence the start of the war) and was locked up in a tower guarded by Targaryens throughout the entire war til Ned found her at the end giving childbirth...

He never told anyone because she probably made him promise to keep it a secret, because what would you think Robert would do if he found out his bride-to-be gave birth to a possible love-child with his enemy, this dude had no qualms with Targaryen babes being killed when the capital got sacked.

Well Littlefinger betrayed Ned and he's on the Starks side.....

But yeah, alas I cant see it happening

Does anyone else think Tyrion and Daenarys may end up marrying or hitching up? That Hand of the Queen scene looked like more than just a promotion, thought they were gonna kiss for a second haha, plus marrying a Lannister would be a way for her to become Queen no? Cersei dies then Tyrion is next in line isnt he?

 

[Suleiman]

Well Littlefinger betrayed Ned and he's on the Starks side.....

But yeah, alas I cant see it happening

Does anyone else think Tyrion and Daenarys may end up marrying or hitching up? That Hand of the Queen scene looked like more than just a promotion, thought they were gonna kiss for a second haha, plus marrying a Lannister would be a way for her to become Queen no? Cersei dies then Tyrion is next in line isnt he?

I thought Tyrion is the youngest since Jaime and Cersei are twins, so wouldn't Jaime be next in line?

 

[Syed1]

I thought Tyrion is the youngest since Jaime and Cersei are twins, so wouldn't Jaime be next in line?

Actually it should have been Jaime on the Iron Throne now, since he is oldest male member of the Lannister family..

Maybe this is what would lead to a greater rift between Cersei and Jaime eventually leading to Jaime siding with the Starks and/or killing Cersei..

 

[Syed1]

Isn't Sansa on Arya's list as well?

Astagfirrulah..

Why would she want to kill her sister and to the best of Arya's knowledge she does not even know which of her family members are alive.

She personally saw Ned, Catyln and Robb getting killed.

 

[Donal Cozzie]

Actually it should have been Jaime on the Iron Throne now, since he is oldest male member of the Lannister family..

Maybe this is what would lead to a greater rift between Cersei and Jaime eventually leading to Jaime siding with the Starks and/or killing Cersei..

Could be pulling this out of nowhere but didnt Jaime surrender his right to the Crown when he became a Kingsguard??

 

[endymion248]

Well Littlefinger betrayed Ned and he's on the Starks side.....

But yeah, alas I cant see it happening

Does anyone else think Tyrion and Daenarys may end up marrying or hitching up? That Hand of the Queen scene looked like more than just a promotion, thought they were gonna kiss for a second haha, plus marrying a Lannister would be a way for her to become Queen no? Cersei dies then Tyrion is next in line isnt he?

Jaime is next in line because he was fired from the kings guard by Tommen.

And besides Lannisters do not hold the crown, it belongs to the Baratheons so the next Lannister in line wouldn't get the crown.

 

[Suleiman]

Could be pulling this out of nowhere but didnt Jaime surrender his right to the Crown when he became a Kingsguard??

But he was dimissed by Tommen.

But yes like the above says, Lannisters shouldn't even have the throne. Next in line was Stannis, show killing him off is my only qualm, esp because he actually wins the real battle.

Though aside from this I think Daenarys will be met by the iron born ships and while she will win, it will take a huge chunk out of her forces. So by the time she has to face the weakened Lannister forces it will be a much closer fight.

Could be wrong though because you don't make 1000 ships overnight.

 

[endymion248]

But he was dimissed by Tommen.

But yes like the above says, Lannisters shouldn't even have the throne. Next in line was Stannis, show killing him off is my only qualm, esp because he actually wins the real battle.

Though aside from this I think Daenarys will be met by the iron born ships and while she will win, it will take a huge chunk out of her forces. So by the time she has to face the weakened Lannister forces it will be a much closer fight.

Could be wrong though because you don't make 1000 ships overnight.

Even if her whole army dies, just the dragons + the Dornish army + the Tyrell army is enough to win against Lannisters.

 

[Suleiman]

Even if her whole army dies, just the dragons + the Dornish army + the Tyrell army is enough to win against Lannisters.

True, but I don't think they'll make it that simple. Maybe part of Baelish's plan is to side with the Lannisters and backstab the North (again). Still won't be enough but this guy always has something up his sleeve.

 

[waqar goraya]

Just when you thought you had seen al the action, they give us Cersei going all Don Corleone on Kings Landing.

HAHA, awesome! cut out a lot of undesirable characters..... I wanted Jaime to bite it as well but I guess he has to take out Cersei first.

It was making GOT look like Saas bhi kabhi bahu thi. All that mess needed a huge explosion to burn

 

[Hawkeye]

There's definitely something going on between Sansa and Baelish.

This stupid dumb Sansa is going to pull something again and bring trouble to Winterfell.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Well Littlefinger betrayed Ned and he's on the Starks side.....

But yeah, alas I cant see it happening

Does anyone else think Tyrion and Daenarys may end up marrying or hitching up? That Hand of the Queen scene looked like more than just a promotion, thought they were gonna kiss for a second haha, plus marrying a Lannister would be a way for her to become Queen no? Cersei dies then Tyrion is next in line isnt he?

It was anything but. She was palming off potential suitors and loking at the longer game. The whole premise of the books has been around Daenarys being the mother of dragons and reclaiming her rightful claim to the throne in Westeros. I don't really see any other outcome than her sweeping to power on the back of her firepower as it were.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Ideal scenario would be. Daenerys (don't like her too much but still) as Queen. Tyrion as hand with Pod as his squire and Brienne as lord commander of kingsguard. Varys as council member.

Jon Snow as warden of the north with the wildlings also settling in the North and Davos there as well.

Sansa marries the crazy kid who dies because of Baelish and starts ruling in the vale with Baelish as guide.

Edmure starts leading house Tully.

Old Lady Tyrell kills Cersei and gets her revenge.

Jaime rules the Lannisters and lives peacefully in Casterly rock with Bronn.

Arya finally reunites with John and starts representing house Stark in some cool way.

Bran finds out details about how to defeat White Walkers and reunites with his fam and explains how to beat them. Also people find out about John's real parents and he falls in love with Dany. He is in the north but they meet regularly because she rides her dragons to him everyday.

Theon and his sister start ruling Ironborn. (Daenerys makes Theon and Starks make peace)

As for what happens across the narrow sea and Dorne? Couldn't care less.

When White Walkers come Daenerys orders northern houses under Jon, Lannisters under Jaime, Tyrells under granny, Arryns under Sansa, Tullies under Edmure, Wildlings under red beard guy, Ironborn under Theon and his sister to fight along side her. They have a massive battle against White Walkers at the wall and manage to beat them.

Unfortunately the story is made by George RR Martin and by the time the show finishes half the people I mentioned will be dead and the opposite could end up happening. We can dream though right?

 

[Suleiman]

Also, I think it's apparent that Euron will marry Daenarys at some point as a temporary alliance. He already made this very clear, and Daenarys dropped a hint to Daario as well that she'll need to marry someone to forge alliances.

Then there will be a power struggle between the 2 and her rise will be very turbulent.

 

[yasir]

Spoiler

That's questionable. Why did Ned never tell Catelyn? He looked guilty when Robert and him talk about it in the first season

Below video explains in detail R + L = J connection and why Jon is the most important character of the show... He is the promised prince that has the song of fire and ice [emoji6][emoji6][emoji6]

I seriously doubt this plot line can be changed after so many years... This secret has being kept from book readers for almost twenty years by the book author... This season they have spelled it out.

https://youtu.be/BBhZPWmXUtE


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[GenericBrand]

Well Littlefinger betrayed Ned and he's on the Starks side.....

No one knows that LF betrayed Ned though, else Jon would have his head on a stick by now. LF has it coming soon, it will be interesting to see how his downfall occurs.

Personally, I don't think Sansa will fall for whatever he is scheming. Sansa has went through a lot of character development these past few seasons from a dumb little spoiled brat, to a helpless little girl and now finally a somewhat strong, independent, cynic , cold person who will refuse to be used and hurt by anyone anymore. Reverting back to an idiot would be character assassination after all she's been through. I have the feeling she might play LF next season and screw him over at the end.

 

[niishaa]

No one knows that LF betrayed Ned though, else Jon would have his head on a stick by now. LF has it coming soon, it will be interesting to see how his downfall occurs.

Personally, I don't think Sansa will fall for whatever he is scheming. Sansa has went through a lot of character development these past few seasons from a dumb little spoiled brat, to a helpless little girl and now finally a somewhat strong, independent, cynic , cold person who will refuse to be used and hurt by anyone anymore. Reverting back to an idiot would be character assassination after all she's been through. I have the feeling she might play LF next season and screw him over at the end.

True when john asked her if she trusted LF she said that only a fool would trust him. I also think she will play him and screw him in the end.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

True when john asked her if she trusted LF she said that only a fool would trust him. I also think she will play him and screw him in the end.

When/if bran comes back I think Sansa will use him to counter Jon as technically even with R + L, Bran is the actual King in the north. Now I doubt bran himself would care, but would be interesting to see how that would player out

 

[Stewie]

When/if bran comes back I think Sansa will use him to counter Jon as technically even with R + L, Bran is the actual King in the north. Now I doubt bran himself would care, but would be interesting to see how that would player out

There will be no such thing. Some of you are getting the wrong signals here. There will be no I'm fighting between the starks /jon snow. They will accept Jon as the true king in the north regardless of his parentage.

My guess is bran and arya will make it to Winterfell early next season and rally behind Jon.

 

[Vorador]

Below video explains in detail R + L = J connection and why Jon is the most important character of the show... He is the promised prince that has the song of fire and ice [emoji6][emoji6][emoji6]

I seriously doubt this plot line can be changed after so many years... This secret has being kept from book readers for almost twenty years by the book author... This season they have spelled it out.

https://youtu.be/BBhZPWmXUtE


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Oh. I haven't read the books, so I have no idea of the importance of this plotline.
Thanks!

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

There will be no such thing. Some of you are getting the wrong signals here. There will be no I'm fighting between the starks /jon snow. They will accept Jon as the true king in the north regardless of his parentage.

My guess is bran and arya will make it to Winterfell early next season and rally behind Jon.

In the immediate future I see Arya meeting up with the brotherhood without banners, they are near by, hound is there and more importantly it's the only place Melissandre could go ( other then Danny ) and if you remember from season 3, Melissandre did say she will meet Arya again. Her wolf is also probably wandering around

 

[Syed1]

In the immediate future I see Arya meeting up with the brotherhood without banners, they are near by, hound is there and more importantly it's the only place Melissandre could go ( other then Danny ) and if you remember from season 3, Melissandre did say she will meet Arya again. Her wolf is also probably wandering around

During that meeting Meli baji told Arya that she sees darkness in her eyes and she sees several other eyes which do not belong to Arya. Which is coming out to be true, Arya is quite a ruthless killer and it was incredibly dark of her to feed Walder Frey his own family in the form of a pie. She also likes her victims to look at her smiling face while they are dying which may explain how Meli sees other eyes in Arya's eyes..

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Ideal scenario would be. Daenerys (don't like her too much but still) as Queen. Tyrion as hand with Pod as his squire and Brienne as lord commander of kingsguard. Varys as council member.

Jon Snow as warden of the north with the wildlings also settling in the North and Davos there as well.

Sansa marries the crazy kid who dies because of Baelish and starts ruling in the vale with Baelish as guide.

Edmure starts leading house Tully.

Old Lady Tyrell kills Cersei and gets her revenge.

Jaime rules the Lannisters and lives peacefully in Casterly rock with Bronn.

Arya finally reunites with John and starts representing house Stark in some cool way.

Bran finds out details about how to defeat White Walkers and reunites with his fam and explains how to beat them. Also people find out about John's real parents and he falls in love with Dany. He is in the north but they meet regularly because she rides her dragons to him everyday.

Theon and his sister start ruling Ironborn. (Daenerys makes Theon and Starks make peace)

As for what happens across the narrow sea and Dorne? Couldn't care less.

When White Walkers come Daenerys orders northern houses under Jon, Lannisters under Jaime, Tyrells under granny, Arryns under Sansa, Tullies under Edmure, Wildlings under red beard guy, Ironborn under Theon and his sister to fight along side her. They have a massive battle against White Walkers at the wall and manage to beat them.

Unfortunately the story is made by George RR Martin and by the time the show finishes half the people I mentioned will be dead and the opposite could end up happening. We can dream though right?

Will soon continue this and describe my ideal final battle when I have time

 

[Hawkeye]

True when john asked her if she trusted LF she said that only a fool would trust him. I also think she will play him and screw him in the end.

Y'all are in for a big disappointment.

LF is going to get into Sansa's head again and use her.

 

[Donal Cozzie]

Y'all are in for a big disappointment.

LF is going to get into Sansa's head again and use her.

I personally can see this happening, she didnt look very happy to me when the northeners all rallied behind Jon.

And I shall always vouch for my Irish brother Aiden Gillen, was so underused this season

 

[Indiafan]

There will be no such thing. Some of you are getting the wrong signals here. There will be no I'm fighting between the starks /jon snow. They will accept Jon as the true king in the north regardless of his parentage.

My guess is bran and arya will make it to Winterfell early next season and rally behind Jon.

The producers have mentioned in the post air video that there will be conflict between Jon and Sansa

 

[Indiafan]

I remember [MENTION=3327]Indiafan[/MENTION] once talking about how awesome and intriguing sand snakes were.Lmao

I don't remember this but in the books the Dorne plot is good is what I might have said? Not sand snake but Doran is awesome. His reveal that he has been plotting revenge all along with Oberyn and he sent Oberyn with a plan and his speech was awesome

“I am not blind, nor deaf. I know that you all believe me weak, frightened, feeble. Your father knew me better. Oberyn was ever the viper. Deadly, dangerous, unpredictable. No man dared tread on him. I was the grass. Pleasant, complaisant, sweet-smelling, swaying with every breeze. Who fears to walk upon the grass? But it is the grass that hides the viper from his enemies and shelters him until he strikes. Your father and I worked more closely than you know … but now he is gone. The question is, can I trust his daughters to serve me in his place?"

She narrowed her eyes. “What is our heart’s desire?”

“Vengeance.” His voice was soft, as if he were afraid that someone might be listening. “Justice.” Prince Doran pressed the onyx dragon into her palm with his swollen, gouty fingers, and whispered, “Fire and blood. “I have worked at the downfall of Tywin Lannister since the day they told me of Elia and her children. It was my hope to strip him of all that he held most dear before I killed him.”

LMAO what about your ridiculous claim that the show was improving on the books by bringing threads together when we saw the ridiculous riverrun scene with BLackfish, the ridiculous Arya plot, etc? Now suddenly its the worst season?

 

[endymion248]

Doran in the books is even more stupid than in the show. Of course if you wait 20 years then your enemies will eventually die off on their own, that's not revenge. And what exactly is his plan? Sending his ugly son to Daenarys and hoping for the best?

At least in the show he is a pacifist trying to keep his people out of the war, he doesn't make any sense in the books.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Doran in the books is even more stupid than in the show. Of course if you wait 20 years then your enemies will eventually die off on their own, that's not revenge. And what exactly is his plan? Sending his ugly son to Daenarys and hoping for the best?

At least in the show he is a pacifist trying to keep his people out of the war, he doesn't make any sense in the books.

It's heavily implied in the books that Oberyon poisoned twyin, all that part of the conspiracy, but then Oberyon got too emotional

 

[TM Riddle]

Doran in the books is even more stupid than in the show. Of course if you wait 20 years then your enemies will eventually die off on their own, that's not revenge. And what exactly is his plan? Sending his ugly son to Daenarys and hoping for the best?

At least in the show he is a pacifist trying to keep his people out of the war, he doesn't make any sense in the books.

Doran's daughter Arianne is 10 times the man that frog face Quentyn martell was.Yeah lets go and propose the dragon queen and when she declines try to win her favor by releasing two of her huge dragons who were locked up for a purpose.His story arc made no sense at all and to say it was disappointing is an understatement.

 

[shah_1]

HBO just confirmed this about Jon's father

http://www.makinggameofthrones.com/...nections-ned-promise-tower-of-joy-infographic

 

[GenericBrand]

Lol besides Rhaegar, who would have been the other candidate anyways

 

[blackanhyellow]

Lol besides Rhaegar, who would have been the other candidate anyways

For some reason some people online thought Jon was Robert's son with Lyanna. Basically that Lyanna was kidnapped by Rhaegar while she was pregnant.

Lyanna told Ned not to tell Robert that Jon is her son because he would think it is not his and that Rhaegar impregnated her which would put Jon's life at risk.

This theory does not make sense, it is clear that Jon is Rhaegar's son.

 

[Syed1]

For some reason some people online thought Jon was Robert's son with Lyanna. Basically that Lyanna was kidnapped by Rhaegar while she was pregnant.

Lyanna told Ned not to tell Robert that Jon is her son because he would think it is not his and that Rhaegar impregnated her which would put Jon's life at risk.

This theory does not make sense, it is clear that Jon is Rhaegar's son.

That theory could have some degree of truth to it..
All Targaryens have white hair.. what is the color of John's hair?

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

That theory could have some degree of truth to it..
All Targaryens have white hair.. what is the color of John's hair?

plenty of targerayns in extened lore that didnt have sliver/blonde hair


besides even putting it that aside, the show would have dropped hints of such a consipracy if it was true.

 

[blackanhyellow]

That theory could have some degree of truth to it..
All Targaryens have white hair.. what is the color of John's hair?

Not true.

I believe one of Rhaegar's children with his first wife had dornish features.

Most targaryens have white hair because the targaryens made an effort to keep their bloodlines "pure" by inbreeding.

 

[GenericBrand]

Hmm, Lyanna never had a favourable opinion of Robert anyways.

 

[TM Riddle]

That theory could have some degree of truth to it..
All Targaryens have white hair.. what is the color of John's hair?

Where is it written or mentioned that all Targeryens have white hair?

 

[TM Riddle]

Hmm, Lyanna never had a favourable opinion of Robert anyways.

She didn't like him one bit having heard of his promiscuity.Its like the DDLJ situation.
SRK= Rhaegar
That Kuljeet guy= Robert

 

[yasir]

That theory could have some degree of truth to it..
All Targaryens have white hair.. what is the color of John's hair?

plenty of targerayns in extened lore that didnt have sliver/blonde hair


besides even putting it that aside, the show would have dropped hints of such a consipracy if it was true.

White/Blond hairs are recessive gene like blue eyes, you only get it if both parents have that genes... Not that show is high on Science but it generally does spell out it's own principles if something has to be unusual... I remember in first season Ned Stark find out about Jeffory's ba$tardness(He was not son of Robert's) by going through history book on Barathyon's, that none of their kings were blond color(Although technically you can have blond hairs down the road, if you keep on marrying blonds)...

I am also curious if Jon has Dragon blood? - I must say Jon is an awful Targaryens name...They could not had an obvious Targaryen's name in the beginning, that would not have being a surprise for this long...

BTW: Are Jon and Danny the only two Targaryens left??

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

White/Blond hairs are recessive gene like blue eyes, you only get it if both parents have that genes... Not that show is high on Science but it generally does spell out it's own principles if something has to be unusual... I remember in first season Ned Stark find out about Jeffory's ba$tardness(He was not son of Robert's) by going through history book on Barathyon's, that none of their kings were blond color(Although technically you can have blond hairs down the road, if you keep on marrying blonds)...

I am also curious if Jon has Dragon blood? - I must say Jon is an awful Targaryens name...They could not had an obvious Targaryen's name in the beginning, that would not have being a surprise for this long...

BTW: Are Jon and Danny the only two Targaryens left??

in the show yes, the only other one was Ameon the master at castle black but he dided in season 5

in the Books there is supposedly another targerayan though it isnt yet made clear if its a pretender or not. The fact the show havent mentioned anything about him or characters that were invloved with him, makes me say he is a fake. If he was real then the show would have at least set up the background to it by now.


Now there is one more possibility , book and possible show spoilers below

Spoiler

In the books there is evidence suggesting that Tyrion is Targeryan. It was often mentioned that The Mad king lusted for Tywin's wife, and that Twyin abruptley left the capital and resigned as hand for a reason thats never fulled explained.

In the books they also point out that Tyrion is a different coloured blonde to the rest of the lannisters.

It also explains tywins hatred of him, only reason Tyrion wasnt killed is because tywin would not want the dishonor of it being public that his wife was raped and because his wife was the one person he truly loved, and hence he wouldnt want to kill her baby.

Other thing in the books that support this is that 'the dragon has three heads' prohecy.

two are obvious (jon and danny), third is ambigious


The show however hasnt gone into the Mad kings lust for Tywins wife, or about tyrions hair.

There are two things though that people can hang onto.

The show made sure tywin said ' you are no son of mine' before dying

and

Tyrions scenes with the dragons this season .


Personally i think its too late for the show to go there, but the dragon scene this season makes me think they might try

 

[TM Riddle]

in the show yes, the only other one was Ameon the master at castle black but he dided in season 5

in the Books there is supposedly another targerayan though it isnt yet made clear if its a pretender or not. The fact the show havent mentioned anything about him or characters that were invloved with him, makes me say he is a fake. If he was real then the show would have at least set up the background to it by now.


Now there is one more possibility , book and possible show spoilers below

Spoiler

In the books there is evidence suggesting that Tyrion is Targeryan. It was often mentioned that The Mad king lusted for Tywin's wife, and that Twyin abruptley left the capital and resigned as hand for a reason thats never fulled explained.

In the books they also point out that Tyrion is a different coloured blonde to the rest of the lannisters.

It also explains tywins hatred of him, only reason Tyrion wasnt killed is because tywin would not want the dishonor of it being public that his wife was raped and because his wife was the one person he truly loved, and hence he wouldnt want to kill her baby.

Other thing in the books that support this is that 'the dragon has three heads' prohecy.

two are obvious (jon and danny), third is ambigious


The show however hasnt gone into the Mad kings lust for Tywins wife, or about tyrions hair.

There are two things though that people can hang onto.

The show made sure tywin said ' you are no son of mine' before dying

and

Tyrions scenes with the dragons this season .


Personally i think its too late for the show to go there, but the dragon scene this season makes me think they might try

Connigton's ward is definitely a fake.Probably a Blackfyre pretender.

 

[blackanhyellow]

in the show yes, the only other one was Ameon the master at castle black but he dided in season 5

in the Books there is supposedly another targerayan though it isnt yet made clear if its a pretender or not. The fact the show havent mentioned anything about him or characters that were invloved with him, makes me say he is a fake. If he was real then the show would have at least set up the background to it by now.


Now there is one more possibility , book and possible show spoilers below

Spoiler

In the books there is evidence suggesting that Tyrion is Targeryan. It was often mentioned that The Mad king lusted for Tywin's wife, and that Twyin abruptley left the capital and resigned as hand for a reason thats never fulled explained.

In the books they also point out that Tyrion is a different coloured blonde to the rest of the lannisters.

It also explains tywins hatred of him, only reason Tyrion wasnt killed is because tywin would not want the dishonor of it being public that his wife was raped and because his wife was the one person he truly loved, and hence he wouldnt want to kill her baby.

Other thing in the books that support this is that 'the dragon has three heads' prohecy.

two are obvious (jon and danny), third is ambigious


The show however hasnt gone into the Mad kings lust for Tywins wife, or about tyrions hair.

There are two things though that people can hang onto.

The show made sure tywin said ' you are no son of mine' before dying

and

Tyrions scenes with the dragons this season .


Personally i think its too late for the show to go there, but the dragon scene this season makes me think they might try

They could easily reveal Tyrion's lineage through Bran in the show.

It might not even be needed to reveal it to Dany or even Tyrion himself. As long as the viewers know through Bran's visions that Tyrion is a Targaryen.

Tyrion knows the dragons won't hurt him so he could fulfill being the head of a dragon without knowing he is a Targaryen.

 

[Saj]

The last 2 episodes made up somewhat for a rather drab season.

The majority of this season was slow-paced and rather tedious but the last 2 episodes certainly were excellent viewing.

 

[Stewie]

Interesting. So all three dragons are supposed to have tartar yen riders towards the end? History repeating itself because didn't the original tartar yen invader king also bring three dragons with him, the other two were ridden by his two sister/wives?

 

[GenericBrand]

in the show yes, the only other one was Ameon the master at castle black but he dided in season 5

in the Books there is supposedly another targerayan though it isnt yet made clear if its a pretender or not. The fact the show havent mentioned anything about him or characters that were invloved with him, makes me say he is a fake. If he was real then the show would have at least set up the background to it by now.


Now there is one more possibility , book and possible show spoilers below

Spoiler

In the books there is evidence suggesting that Tyrion is Targeryan. It was often mentioned that The Mad king lusted for Tywin's wife, and that Twyin abruptley left the capital and resigned as hand for a reason thats never fulled explained.

In the books they also point out that Tyrion is a different coloured blonde to the rest of the lannisters.

It also explains tywins hatred of him, only reason Tyrion wasnt killed is because tywin would not want the dishonor of it being public that his wife was raped and because his wife was the one person he truly loved, and hence he wouldnt want to kill her baby.

Other thing in the books that support this is that 'the dragon has three heads' prohecy.

two are obvious (jon and danny), third is ambigious


The show however hasnt gone into the Mad kings lust for Tywins wife, or about tyrions hair.

There are two things though that people can hang onto.

The show made sure tywin said ' you are no son of mine' before dying

and

Tyrions scenes with the dragons this season .


Personally i think its too late for the show to go there, but the dragon scene this season makes me think they might try

Tywin strikes me as the sort of fellow who would force his wife to have an abortion if she came to be pregnant with Aerys' son. There are potions in Westeros that could induce miscarriages.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Tywin strikes me as the sort of fellow who would force his wife to have an abortion if she came to be pregnant with Aerys' son. There are potions in Westeros that could induce miscarriages.

True but the books mention a fair few times that twyin genuinely loved his wife, and his wedding day was the only time people saw him publicly smile with happiness

 

[SL_Fan]

Last couple of episodes were off the charts. Battle of the ******** is the best episode to date for mine. Unreal.

 

[JaDed]

True but the books mention a fair few times that twyin genuinely loved his wife, and his wedding day was the only time people saw him publicly smile with happiness

More so the reason for his anger don't you think?

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

More so the reason for his anger don't you think?

True but another interpretation could be that due to the sake of his wife he would keep the child as she wouldn't want him dead

 

[endymion248]

Does everyone have to be a secret Targaeryen? Can't he just be Tywin's disappointing son?

 

[GenericBrand]

White/Blond hairs are recessive gene like blue eyes, you only get it if both parents have that genes... Not that show is high on Science but it generally does spell out it's own principles if something has to be unusual... I remember in first season Ned Stark find out about Jeffory's ba$tardness(He was not son of Robert's) by going through history book on Barathyon's, that none of their kings were blond color(Although technically you can have blond hairs down the road, if you keep on marrying blonds)...

He event went one step further and looked at whenever a Baratheon married a Lannister woman, and their off-spring always 100% had Baratheon features .

 

[SL_Fan]

So what is it 292 plus days until the next episode. Sad face.

 

[BeautifulGame]

Last couple of episodes were off the charts. Battle of the ******** is the best episode to date for mine. Unreal.

For me the last one even bettered the Battle of Basterds

The music in the Kings landing when Cersai was blowing them was just unreal

 

[niishaa]

She didn't like him one bit having heard of his promiscuity.Its like the DDLJ situation.
SRK= Rhaegar
That Kuljeet guy= Robert

is Rhaegar the mad king??

 

[TM Riddle]

is Rhaegar the mad king??

Nah his eldest son.Brother of Danny who was slained by Robert in battle of trident.

 

[niishaa]

Nah his eldest son.Brother of Danny who was slained by Robert in battle of trident.

Thanks. I always thought that the mad king abducted lyanna.

 

[TM Riddle]

Thanks. I always thought that the mad king abducted lyanna.

No it was Rhaegar.He saw her first time during a tourney held in Harrenhall in the year of false spring and crowned her as beauty queen neglecting and riding past his wife Elia Martell.This lead to the events which changed everything in westeros.

 

[niishaa]

No it was Rhaegar.He saw her first time during a tourney held in Harrenhall in the year of false spring and crowned her as beauty queen neglecting and riding past his wife Elia Martell.This lead to the events which changed everything in westeros.

Well i hope it is DDLJ type of love story between rhaegar and Lyanna rather then rape and abduction.

 

[TM Riddle]

Well i hope it is DDLJ type of love story between rhaegar and Lyanna rather then rape and abduction.

Various references in the books suggest it indeed was.Only prob was that Aerys the mad king had Lyanna's father Rickon Stark executed before he could deliver the famous dialogue - "Jaa Lyanna jaa,Jee le apni zindagi"

 

[Aman]

This season felt so rushed with so many characters randomly getting killed off.

The pacing kind of ruined the season for me, it felt like they were trying to get as much in as possible as they only have one season left.

If they wanted to fit it all in, they should have been looking at 12 or more eps.

 

[niishaa]

I have started reading the book today hopefully this will keep me happy till the next season starts

 

[waqar goraya]

Ramin Djawadi is a very good composer.