Good off-spinners in Pakistan domestic cricket

[ataullah]

Pakistan need to plan against teams with left handers. Better to have everything covered. Just like Sharjeel struggles with left handers many left handers struggle against off spin. For batsmen like dhawan and warner we need a good off spinner like ajmal and saqi. We have wrist spin and left arm spin covered with Asghar, Zafar and usama mir etc. We have amir, junaid and Hassan ali etc for pace but do we have any good offies? TalentSpotterPk?

 

[ataullah]

Bilal asif good enough? Where's tariq "murali" mahmood?

 

[abc_to_xyz]

raza hasan? the banned one?

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

The best offspinner in pakistan is 32 years old Mohammad Asif.

Refer to this thread for his current case
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?213601-Mohammad-Asif-Off-spinner-from-DG-Khan


2nd best is Nasir Awais followed by Saeed Ajmal followed by Junaid Ilyas.


All these 4 off spinners are better than Nasir Hossain, Shuvagata Hom, Senanyke, Williamson, Joe Root and Mohammad Nabi.


The best legspinner in pakistan in limited overs format is Usama Mir and in four day/ Test and overall it's Yasir Shah.


The best left arm spinner is Mohammad Asghar followed by Zulfiqar Babar followed by Zafar Gohar, Mohammad Nawaz & Kamran Ghulam.

 

[ataullah]

The best offspinner in pakistan is 32 years old Mohammad Asif.

Refer to this thread for his current case
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?213601-Mohammad-Asif-Off-spinner-from-DG-Khan


2nd best is Nasir Awais followed by Saeed Ajmal followed by Junaid Ilyas.


All these 4 off spinners are better than Nasir Hossain, Shuvagata Hom, Senanyke, Williamson, Joe Root and Mohammad Nabi.


The best legspinner in pakistan in limited overs format is Usama Mir and in four day/ Test and overall it's Yasir Shah.


The best left arm spinner is Mohammad Asghar followed by Zulfiqar Babar followed by Zafar Gohar, Mohammad Nawaz & Kamran Ghulam.

Wow JazakAllah TalentSpotterPk. How old is Asif and does he possess variety like legal doosra?

 

[asfandyar]

The best offspinner in pakistan is 32 years old Mohammad Asif.

Refer to this thread for his current case
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?213601-Mohammad-Asif-Off-spinner-from-DG-Khan


2nd best is Nasir Awais followed by Saeed Ajmal followed by Junaid Ilyas.


All these 4 off spinners are better than Nasir Hossain, Shuvagata Hom, Senanyke, Williamson, Joe Root and Mohammad Nabi.


The best legspinner in pakistan in limited overs format is Usama Mir and in four day/ Test and overall it's Yasir Shah.


The best left arm spinner is Mohammad Asghar followed by Zulfiqar Babar followed by Zafar Gohar, Mohammad Nawaz & Kamran Ghulam.

What about Agha Salman?

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

What about Agha Salman?

Good reminder.

He is part time off spinner. Hafeez like. A grade fitness like Rizwan. Good fielder. Compact batsman but not aggressive.


Not a genuine spinner.

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[TalentSpotterPk]

Wow JazakAllah TalentSpotterPk. How old is Asif and does he possess variety like legal doosra?

No

 

[asfandyar]

Good reminder.

He is part time off spinner. Hafeez like. A grade fitness like Rizwan. Good fielder. Compact batsman but not aggressive.


Not a genuine spinner.

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Has better stats than those you have mentioned (in List-A) albeit over a short span. Seems he doesn't like to bowl much. Had a good T20 tournament with the ball.

 

[Kashmiri_Pak_fan]

Good off-spinners in Pakistan?

As we all know we desperately need a young off spinner. As we have abundance of left armers and have few leg breakers but i don't see any off breaker in domestic scene.
Please list here off breakers of domestic and under 19 level, if any.
Plus PCB banned 16 bowlers in domestics in 2014 for suspect action and almost 32 were initially reported. I think most of them are likely to be off breakers. So, it will help us to know about off breakers in pak domestics if anyone can post the names of those banned bowlers in domestics in 2014.
Thanks.

 

[hitthestump]

Yasir should hopefully be around for some time to come so i don't think we "desperately" need an off spinner just yet as he's unlikely to be usurped as our frontline spinner. Probably a good thing too seeing as there's none that i can think of. However some decent left arm spinners are breaking through which is encouraging, we could soon see Zafar Gohar or Mohammad Asghar in the UAE i reckon.

 

[Kashmiri_Pak_fan]

I can only see bilal asif, adnan rasool, atif maqbool but no youngesta buities

 

[Brilliance]

Arsal Sheikh. But don't get your hopes too high for him.

 

[Junaids]

You don't need an off-spinner.

They are only really of use once every 30 years when you face a team with a mainly left-handed batting line-up.

But that ship has just sailed, and you probably won't encounter one again until around 2047.

 

[ExpressPacer]

Arsal Sheikh. But don't get your hopes too high for him.

He's a lefty and extremely pathetic. I've played with him and the only reason he makes every team is because of his sweet ol' daddy. Frankly, he's not even club level. 15 year old's play him easily.

 

[Barragan]

Not many young ones around.

 

[Hawkeye]

I don't know of any legal off spinner who is good enough.

We're doomed in this area of bowling. Unless someone from the lower levels comes on the scene as a surprise - nobody is there in the well known departmental/regional teams.

 

[MMHS]

Not many with clean action. Among current spinners, I think Karachi's Tahir Khan is very good with a reasonable action and he is decent with bat as well; but he is close to Ajmal's age now.

There is not many apart from Arsal Sheikh, who is poor (but with a clean action)

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

You don't need an off-spinner.

They are only really of use once every 30 years when you face a team with a mainly left-handed batting line-up.

But that ship has just sailed, and you probably won't encounter one again until around 2047.

Every team has lots of lefties. Not as much as righties but sufficient amount.

So offies in tests can be very useful.

 

[b.lesner]

nasir awais is best off spinner in pakistan with action like Graeme swann and can bowl dousra too , the reason he doesn't come forward is because he represents hyderabad region

 

[Brilliance]

He's a lefty and extremely pathetic. I've played with him and the only reason he makes every team is because of his sweet ol' daddy. Frankly, he's not even club level. 15 year old's play him easily.

LOL you claim to have played with him, then go on to say he is lefty . He is a right arm off-spinner.

 

[Saurav]

You don't need an off-spinner.

They are only really of use once every 30 years when you face a team with a mainly left-handed batting line-up.

But that ship has just sailed, and you probably won't encounter one again until around 2047.

Surprise surprise.Both Murali and Ashwin have done better vs RHBs as compared to LHBs

 

[ExpressPacer]

LOL you claim to have played with him, then go on to say he is lefty . He is a right arm off-spinner.

I think I may be wrong as to him being a lefty then. Don't exactly remember too well. But what I do remember him being is extremely pathetic who deserves to be nowhere near any first class team.

 

[MMHS]

Surprise surprise.Both Murali and Ashwin have done better vs RHBs as compared to LHBs

Lyon, Swan as well.

My boss has an alergy to any spinner that doesn't average 35 with bat like Moeen Ali . In another thread, Junaids made a possible PAK team for 2018 English tour - and he picked Nawaz over Yasir. So, it's not about Offie only .....................

At this rate, Root'll end up as England's primary spinner.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Surprise surprise.Both Murali and Ashwin have done better vs RHBs as compared to LHBs

Not true if you are talking based on the career stats.

Ashwin's average against righties is 30 odd in test. In ODIs, its way worse against righties.

Cricinfo stats are throwing up erroneous numbers or maybe I don't use them to extract data for this.

Lyon, Swan as well.

My boss has an alergy to any spinner that doesn't average 35 with bat like Moeen Ali . In another thread, Junaids made a possible PAK team for 2018 English tour - and he picked Nawaz over Yasir. So, it's not about Offie only .....................

At this rate, Root'll end up as England's primary spinner.

Swann's average against righties is higher too.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

There are none international quality at the moment.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

I am speaking based on stats seen on TV and articles here and there.

 

[street cricketer]

Surprise surprise.Both Murali and Ashwin have done better vs RHBs as compared to LHBs

Surely Ashwin has the better stats against LHBs.

 

[MMHS]

Not true if you are talking based on the career stats.

Ashwin's average against righties is 30 odd in test. In ODIs, its way worse against righties.

Cricinfo stats are throwing up erroneous numbers or maybe I don't use them to extract data for this.



Swann's average against righties is higher too.

Shane & Qadir had their struggle against lefti - that doesn't mean that they should have been dropped. Off-spinners has a big role to play in the game, if you have the right combination & Captain to use them. In England, spinners, particularly offies are used to manage over rate more than anything else - hence they pick Moeen, who is best among the lot with bat - that shouldn't be standard for all.

Take this kid Miraz - should we drop him if he doesn't improve his batting average to 35?

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Shane & Qadir had their struggle against lefti - that doesn't mean that they should have been dropped. Off-spinners has a big role to play in the game, if you have the right combination & Captain to use them. In England, spinners, particularly offies are used to manage over rate more than anything else - hence they pick Moeen, who is best among the lot with bat - that shouldn't be standard for all.

Take this kid Miraz - should we drop him if he doesn't improve his batting average to 35?

I never said that. haha.

I was just talking about the statistical point.

Anyone who has watched Murali, Ashwin and Swann would know the threat they posed to both lefties and righties. Lyon has been extremely good outside Asia (probably a dip in form these days).

 

[Saurav]

Surely Ashwin has the better stats against LHBs.

Only talking about Tests

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...e=results;type=bowling;view=dismissal_summary

 

[Saurav]

Not true if you are talking based on the career stats.

Ashwin's average against righties is 30 odd in test. In ODIs, its way worse against righties.

Cricinfo stats are throwing up erroneous numbers or maybe I don't use them to extract data for this.



Swann's average against righties is higher too.

Show me where you are getting your stats from?

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Only talking about Tests

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...e=results;type=bowling;view=dismissal_summary

Surprisingly cricinfo stats for this aspect are erroneous and all wrong.

Put host country as Aus and you would see Ashwin averaging 28 against righties and 36 against lefties.

His Aus overall stats are 54 so how is that even possible?

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...e=results;type=bowling;view=dismissal_summary

Show me where you are getting your stats from?

TV and articles.

Ashwin average against lefties 18...against righties 30.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/1065657.html

This is before Eng series.

 

[Stallion__]

Show me where you are getting your stats from?

Tbh, don't need to stats to verify this. It's quite conspicuous that LHB's struggle significantly more against Ashwin.

 

[Kaiser_Soze]

Surprisingly cricinfo stats for this aspect are erroneous and all wrong.

Put host country as Aus and you would see Ashwin averaging 28 against righties and 36 against lefties.

His Aus overall stats are 54 so how is that even possible?

Maybe Warner and Maxwell are classified as both hand bats in cricinfo

 

[MMHS]

Tbh, don't need to stats to verify this. It's quite conspicuous that LHB's struggle significantly more against Ashwin.

Something is not right here - Yasir's overall average is 30+, and he has bowled only to either left handed or right handed batsman so far.

 

[Junaids]

Lyon, Swan as well.

My boss has an alergy to any spinner that doesn't average 35 with bat like Moeen Ali . In another thread, Junaids made a possible PAK team for 2018 English tour - and he picked Nawaz over Yasir. So, it's not about Offie only .....................

At this rate, Root'll end up as England's primary spinner.

Because it's a tour in May.

Just like the recent NZ tour - the spinner might not bowl at all.

 

[MMHS]

Because it's a tour in May.

Just like the recent NZ tour - the spinner might not bowl at all.

Then, I won't pick any spinner if so - 4 pacers & few overs by Azhar, Haris, Babar even Asad or 3 pacers & 2 all-rounders who are good with bat - Nawaz is a nothing cricketer - if he somehow manages to play 50 Tests, he'll end up with unbelievable career, unfortunately in wrong order - average of 48 with ball & 18 with bat.

 

[Stallion__]

Something is not right here - Yasir's overall average is 30+, and he has bowled only to either left handed or right handed batsman so far.

This was done at the start of Nov, before Aus series.

 

[Abdullah719]

Really need some more offies in domestic cricket. I don't think Bilal Asif is as bad as his stats suggest but it's not great that (seemingly) our only off-spin option is a 32-year-old who is best known for an innings in T20 cricket.

 

[in_cutter]

Guys why is Zafar Gohar no longer in the picture? He is quality!

 

[MMHS]

Hafeez, once he clears his action - great potential for 2023 WC in India

 

[in_cutter]

Hafeez, once he clears his action - great potential for 2023 WC in India

Oh please no

 

[TeymurBlake]

Ummm Raza Hasan is one that springs into mind, Agha Salman is one that a lot of PPers talk about. I'm sure there's quite a few around but with leggies being the trend in cricket now it would be interesting to see how many offies come through or get picked.

 

[DRsohail]

Agha salman.and new UBL player Ashiq ali.

 

[Inzi_fan_No_1]

Oh please no

Stats prove that when Hafeez is bowling we win more games.

 

[ataullah]

Bump.

Who's best off spinner in pak?
Who's best from bilal asif and agha Salman?

 

[Titan24]

Bump.

Who's best off spinner in pak?
Who's best from bilal asif and agha Salman?

As a player I would take Agha over Bilal as Agha is a very good batsman and has a lot of potential.

Bilal Asif is a decent hitter but not much for future potential with bat.

In terms of bowling Bilal has more variety and is more experienced however Agha has a lot of potential in bowling as well.

I would like to spend time and money on Agha as future potential considering he is just 24, 25 and can be a pure all rounder, while Bilal is more of a bowling all rounder and age of 31.

 

[fluke]

i cant see one ... if anyone knows please mention his name here

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Bump.

Who's best off spinner in pak?
Who's best from bilal asif and agha Salman?

Bilal is the better bowler, at least right now

I rate him as a stop gap selection

 

[DRsohail]

Ashiq Ali is good,He has good one day cup this season.

 

[Zeeraq]

Waleed Ahmed took 6 wickets for 28 runs, impressive performance by him!

 

[cricket_cfa]

bump

Agha salman or any other better than bilal asif atm?

 

[Hasan123]

We need to find someone soon. Hafeez can't play forever.

 

[ShahidDar08]

I don't think there is any.

 

[b.lesner]

Awais iqbal played as vice captain of pakistan U-19 i think in 2016 , he is playing for rawalpindi in QAT oneday

Took 5 wickets in last game in QAT

 

[MMHS]

There won’t be found any one before MoHa retires, may be after 2027 WC. He has enough contacts to keep that space vacant - like this time Billal was picked to make sure that no new offie can get a shot at 5-6 Aussie lefti on turner.

Otherwise, one can check Tahir Khan’s stats for both batting & bowling and the guy never got a call after playing for 10+ years, almost officially same age of MoHa.

 

[mak36]

Awais iqbal played as vice captain of pakistan U-19 i think in 2016 , he is playing for rawalpindi in QAT oneday

Took 5 wickets in last game in QAT

He's mediocre at best.

There's much better options.

 

[Ned Flanders]

There won’t be found any one before MoHa retires, may be after 2027 WC. He has enough contacts to keep that space vacant - like this time Billal was picked to make sure that no new offie can get a shot at 5-6 Aussie lefti on turner.

Otherwise, one can check Tahir Khan’s stats for both batting & bowling and the guy never got a call after playing for 10+ years, almost officially same age of MoHa.

How many times are you going to hate on MoHa in the same thread?

 

[MMHS]

How many times are you going to hate on MoHa in the same thread?

Where do you see hate? I am just telling the fact - for a cricket mad country of 23 crore, PAK couldn't find a single Off-spinner in half a decade, hence had to call back a 3 times convicted chucker. What's the guarantee that some one will be found in next 5-6 years?

 

[Hawkeye]

There won’t be found any one before MoHa retires, may be after 2027 WC. He has enough contacts to keep that space vacant - like this time Billal was picked to make sure that no new offie can get a shot at 5-6 Aussie lefti on turner.

Otherwise, one can check Tahir Khan’s stats for both batting & bowling and the guy never got a call after playing for 10+ years, almost officially same age of MoHa.

To be honest, you're picking on Hafeez in almost every related thread. It's getting a bit over the top.

It's your and everyone's beloved Mickey Arthur who was not impressed from Bilal and called Hafeez. Aus batsmen shocked him in the A game.

It's a reality that there's no other good off spinner in Pakistan.

And certainly not anyone of the caliber of Hafeez, or nearly as good a batsman as Hafeez. He's the only Pakistani in top 5 ICC rankings.

Won champions trophy for Pakistan. Malik can NEVER play a knock like Hafeez outside Asia in a tournament final!

The hate needs to stop.

 

[ExplicitAI]

I think we should go for Asghar soon, we need someone who can take wickets quickly.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

1. Bilal Asif

2. Ashiq Ali

3. Ahmer Ejaz



For Aussies even Bilal Asif would be good enough. But for me most talented and gifted offie is Ahmer Ejaz.

[MENTION=133760]Abdullah719[/MENTION] please post the video of his bowling from Lahore Qalandars rising stars tournament. I remember you once posted that here.

 

[MMHS]

To be honest, you're picking on Hafeez in almost every related thread. It's getting a bit over the top.

It's your and everyone's beloved Mickey Arthur who was not impressed from Bilal and called Hafeez. Aus batsmen shocked him in the A game.

It's a reality that there's no other good off spinner in Pakistan.

And certainly not anyone of the caliber of Hafeez, or nearly as good a batsman as Hafeez. He's the only Pakistani in top 5 ICC rankings.

Won champions trophy for Pakistan. Malik can NEVER play a knock like Hafeez outside Asia in a tournament final!

The hate needs to stop.

Bilal was picked to ensure that the off-spinner's spot is NOT booked. What do you think - Mickey Arthur is a tool to play a 33 years old Offie, who has 59 wickets in 23 FC games, more importantly someone bowling 29 overs/FC game - when the requirement is more than 29 overs/innings.

Still, I would have taken it had MoHa been Ajmal, or remotely close to him. This guy, at his chucking best has bowled at an average 12 overs/FC game, and has 252 wickets in 205 FC games, is called with a fair action to bowl against Aussies in a Test match, and you think I am unfair to him or Ul Haq? His FC bowling stats are one of the biggest mystery in cricket - go match my match, you'll see this guy, as usual with his every stats, has puffed up FC bowling stats as well by bowling darts at desperate tail-ended, going for slog swing.

 

[Abdullah719]

1. Bilal Asif

2. Ashiq Ali

3. Ahmer Ejaz



For Aussies even Bilal Asif would be good enough. But for me most talented and gifted offie is Ahmer Ejaz.

[MENTION=133760]Abdullah719[/MENTION] please post the video of his bowling from Lahore Qalandars rising stars tournament. I remember you once posted that here.

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[Abdullah719]

Bilal was picked to ensure that the off-spinner's spot is NOT booked. What do you think - Mickey Arthur is a tool to play a 33 years old Offie, who has 59 wickets in 23 FC games, more importantly someone bowling 29 overs/FC game - when the requirement is more than 29 overs/innings.

Still, I would have taken it had MoHa been Ajmal, or remotely close to him. This guy, at his chucking best has bowled at an average 12 overs/FC game, and has 252 wickets in 205 FC games, is called with a fair action to bowl against Aussies in a Test match, and you think I am unfair to him or Ul Haq? His FC bowling stats are one of the biggest mystery in cricket - go match my match, you'll see this guy, as usual with his every stats, has puffed up FC bowling stats as well by bowling darts at desperate tail-ended, going for slog swing.

He is quite a remarkable 'talent' against lower-order batsmen in FC cricket.

1/34 against Peshawar (#10 batsman Taj Wali)
3/41 against Peshawar (#7/8/9 batsmen Gauhar Ali, Sajid Khan and Altaf Ahmed)

2/26 against Islamabad (#7/8 batsmen Faizan Riaz and Arsal Sheikh)

6/63 against FATA during follow-on (#1/3/4/7/9/10 batsmen Mohammad Naeem, Samiullah, Nisar Afridi, Asif Afridi, Mohammad Talha and Naseer Akram)

All this equates to 12 wickets at 15.58 in the Quaid-e-Azam Trophy so far this season

Now he will go and 'spin a web' around Renshaw, Khawaja, S Marsh and Head....

 

[MMHS]

He is quite a remarkable 'talent' against lower-order batsmen in FC cricket.

1/34 against Peshawar (#10 batsman Taj Wali)
3/41 against Peshawar (#7/8/9 batsmen Gauhar Ali, Sajid Khan and Altaf Ahmed)

2/26 against Islamabad (#7/8 batsmen Faizan Riaz and Arsal Sheikh)

6/63 against FATA during follow-on {#1/3/4/7/9/10 batsmen Mohammad Naeem, Samiullah, Nisar Afridi, Asif Afridi, Mohammad Talha and Naseer Akram)

All this equates to 12 wickets at 15.58 in the Quaid-e-Azam Trophy so far this season

Now he will go and 'spin a web' around Renshaw, Khawaja, S Marsh and Head....

Bro, Abdullah, when I write something I try to check numbers before that. These are only from this season - I checked from past few games as well the moment Ul Haq sent him as savior.

 

[Hawkeye]

Bilal was picked to ensure that the off-spinner's spot is NOT booked. What do you think - Mickey Arthur is a tool to play a 33 years old Offie, who has 59 wickets in 23 FC games, more importantly someone bowling 29 overs/FC game - when the requirement is more than 29 overs/innings.

Still, I would have taken it had MoHa been Ajmal, or remotely close to him. This guy, at his chucking best has bowled at an average 12 overs/FC game, and has 252 wickets in 205 FC games, is called with a fair action to bowl against Aussies in a Test match, and you think I am unfair to him or Ul Haq? His FC bowling stats are one of the biggest mystery in cricket - go match my match, you'll see this guy, as usual with his every stats, has puffed up FC bowling stats as well by bowling darts at desperate tail-ended, going for slog swing.

All the tactics and players are being provided on Mickey's demand.

Nice conspiracy theory you've spun up there, Bilal was sent so Hafeez could be sent later. Haha.

Come on bro you're certainly better than that. There's no conspiracy theory.

There's real dearth of talent, and Arthur has pressed the panic button. He doesn't want another Test defeat, has a very poor record so far.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

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No reason for him not playing F.C. and List A Cricket this season. Is he in any squad ?

Needs two three weeks training with Saqlain at NCA

 

[Ned Flanders]

Mickey is the problem.

He doesn't believe in spinners.

Before we've always had some sort of a spinner in the side.

Raza Hasan, Zulfiqar Babar, Abdur Rehman, Zafar Gohar etc.

 

[Hasan123]

Hafeez will still be selected so who cares.

 

[Syed1]

Our ODI team is in such a rut.. The people we backed to take us forward turned out to be right duds. Had such high hopes from Fakhar, Babar, Shadab, Hasan and Amir.


Sad part is we are not even inducting new fresh talent in the squad on a regular basis. Saud Shakeel is ready for international cricket. He has been ready for a couple of years now, but still no chance. Heck he might even turn out to be a dud like the folks before him but what is the harm in trying? Instead we are banking on a proper hack like Asif.

Asif Ali's only worth is in T20 cricket with 6 overs to go and licence to go hell to leather. He is not an ODI player and definitely not a number six batsman.


Sad state of affairs.

 

[thelandofthebravepeople]

Our ODI team is in such a rut.. The people we backed to take us forward turned out to be right duds. Had such high hopes from Fakhar, Babar, Shadab, Hasan and Amir.


Sad part is we are not even inducting new fresh talent in the squad on a regular basis. Saud Shakeel is ready for international cricket. He has been ready for a couple of years now, but still no chance. Heck he might even turn out to be a dud like the folks before him but what is the harm in trying? Instead we are banking on a proper hack like Asif.

Asif Ali's only worth is in T20 cricket with 6 overs to go and licence to go hell to leather. He is not an ODI player and definitely not a number six batsman.


Sad state of affairs.

One bad series does not make people duds.

 

[Ned Flanders]

Our ODI team is in such a rut.. The people we backed to take us forward turned out to be right duds. Had such high hopes from Fakhar, Babar, Shadab, Hasan and Amir.


Sad part is we are not even inducting new fresh talent in the squad on a regular basis. Saud Shakeel is ready for international cricket. He has been ready for a couple of years now, but still no chance. Heck he might even turn out to be a dud like the folks before him but what is the harm in trying? Instead we are banking on a proper hack like Asif.

Asif Ali's only worth is in T20 cricket with 6 overs to go and licence to go hell to leather. He is not an ODI player and definitely not a number six batsman.


Sad state of affairs.

Lol at the knee jerk reaction.

I wonder how you felt in 2007 when Younis, Yousuf, Inzamam failed against Ireland.

 

[Abdullah719]

Sajid Khan from Peshawar (25 y/o) is the offie with the most wickets in QEA so far this season. 20 in 5 matches.

 

[mak36]

Sajid Khan from Peshawar (25 y/o) is the offie with the most wickets in QEA so far this season. 20 in 5 matches.

I have been looking for footage of him but nothing so far.

Seems to blow a little hot and cold IIRC.

 

[Abdullah719]

I have been looking for footage of him but nothing so far.

Seems to blow a little hot and cold IIRC.

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[Hasan123]

Need to give some off spinners a chance. Bilal is a good start but has been selected for his all round ability. Want to introduce a specialist offie into the test team.

 

[Hawkeye]

Sajid Khan from Peshawar (25 y/o) is the offie with the most wickets in QEA so far this season. 20 in 5 matches.

Umm..

25 y/o or 45? You sure you didn't confuse the two there, bud?

Action looks fine, no chucking. But come on, he looks 40.