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Hardik Pandya has the potential to be the best all-rounder in the world

Such a useless bowler. Not even at Sanjay Bangar's level yet his worshippers have made him to look like the second coming of Gary Sobers. He looks like someone who is just there to complete his overs. He is not a thinking bowler. Not surprisingly he has never completed his quota of overs once in ODI. Ashwin should play in the next match ahead of Hackya.
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So going at 7 runs an over on a batta where he was completely out of luck makes him useless??

This is nothing but pure hate. :facepalm:
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Such a useless bowler. Not even at Sanjay Bangar's level yet his worshippers have made him to look like the second coming of Gary Sobers. He looks like someone who is just there to complete his overs. He is not a thinking bowler. Not surprisingly he has never completed his quota of overs once in ODI. Ashwin should play in the next match ahead of Hackya.

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Not at all. That is another pointless move. If Shami is fit, we need to play all four of Shami/Bumrah/Umesh/BK with Jadeja batting a bit higher at 7. We need fast bowlers who can hit those lengths hard and make the opposition earn their runs. Ashwin is too hittable.
 
Napa said:
Let me tell you how Pandya bats. At this point his ODI average is 60 @ S/R 129.

In comparison Razaaq ended his career with an ODI average of 29.70 @ S/R of 81.25.

You are right in a way though, there is no comparison between Pandya and Razaaq. Pandya is far ahead as a batsman.
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Lol is this guy serious?
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Not at all. That is another pointless move. If Shami is fit, we need to play all four of Shami/Bumrah/Umesh/BK with Jadeja batting a bit higher at 7. We need fast bowlers who can hit those lengths hard and make the opposition earn their runs. Ashwin is too hittable.
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We are going to play against South Africa next.
 
Zak_Fan said:
So going at 7 runs an over on a batta where he was completely out of luck makes him useless??

This is nothing but pure hate. :facepalm:
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Some lack the cricketing acumen to spot the right talent, it is better to ignore such amatuers, they'll jump on the pandya bandwagon in a few years, one of the poster above you was also hating on kohli when he first came to international cricket and was sure that kohli would fail with this attitude, look where kohli is right now, kohli really gave him an egg on his face :yk
 
Napa said:
The deep logic of your post completely floors me, I concede.
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Indian Supporter bhai I agree with your logic that Pandya is a better batsman than Razzaq just because he ended his career with a batting average below 30. According to your logic pakistani fans can also claim that Babar Azam is a better batsman than Kohli/Sachin. :misbah
 
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ToeCrusher2 said:
Some lack the cricketing acumen to spot the right talent, it is better to ignore such amatuers, they'll jump on the pandya bandwagon in a few years, one of the poster above you was also hating on kohli when he first came to international cricket and was sure that kohli would fail with this attitude, look where kohli is right now, kohli really gave him an egg on his face :yk
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Some of them have a convenient formula to judge talent.

IPL product = Trash. :afridi1
 
Not much of a bowler but don't expect much in the land of pattas. He doesn need to develop yorkers and a quality slower ball
 
lol at all the Indians getting their undies in a twist. With the exception of Bhaag Viru Bhaag.

Guys, YOU made the thread and called him the POTENTIAL TO BE THE BEST ALL ROUNDER. :)) This thread is to discuss that. And when you put such a tag, you definitely going to bet he is going to be criticized. Then why all the tears?

You cry "haters" being over critical but don't you think, given the thread title, you may have also got a tad excited? That too on what performance, solely IPL?

I will say this. I think he will have a successful T20 career. Maybe even one day. A good hitter. But to me, he is more of a batting than bowling all rounder. His bowling does not strike me anything special. Its very straight. Little movement. A decent option to fill some overs, which is great for India as they historically struggled with the 5th bowler but best all rounder in the world? He needs to show much more.

He is nowhere close in class to Stokes or Shakib. I think even Ashwin is better than him when looking at their all round play.
 
His bowling is not anything special but he can bat. He didn't have many balls to to get in form today but he can definitely become like a Razzaq like player.
 
Garbage player. No better with the ball than our own Hammad Azam and apart from his power-game, he doesn't have much to show in the batting department either. Plus, he has a rotten attitude which will stop him from improving.
 
Mobashir said:
I saw that today... Nothing player at the international level.
Probably Ashwin to play the next match for.
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He is no Stokes, but he is a decent prospect for India. Good hitter, good fielder and can chip in with the ball every now and then. He brings good attitude and energy to the team. India do not have many options for seam bowling all-rounders and he is clearly the best of the lot.

Jadhav will be the one to make way for Ashwin. He is a good batsman but a complete liability in the field. Also, he is 32 years old. Not a long-term investment like Pandya.
 
An exciting young player in my view. The management needs to persist with him and play him in every ODI and T20I. He has very good attitude and has the character to excel at the top-level. Has the personality I want to see in young cricketers. Also, has a good feel for the game. Could be Kohli's successor one day as far as captaincy is concerned.
 
Mamoon said:
An exciting young player in my view. The management needs to persist with him and play him in every ODI and T20I. He has very good attitude and has the character to excel at the top-level. Has the personality I want to see in young cricketers. Also, has a good feel for the game. Could be Kohli's successor one day as far as captaincy is concerned.
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His bowling is Faheem Ashraf level or maybe worse. Also looks more of a spin basher.

Don't think he will last.
 
Hamza_ said:
His bowling is Faheem Ashraf level or maybe worse. Also looks more of a spin basher.

Don't think he will last.
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He reminds me of a young Jadeja, who used to get trolled hard and people thought he is a useless bits and pieces cricketer. He was electric in the field, but no one truly knew what his role was in the team, perhaps not even Jadeja himself. However, he had the character to pull through, and today he is a top spinner in Test cricket.

Similarly, I expect Hardik to find a niche for himself eventually, because he has the right attitude for the game - be it as a batsman or bowler. Probably a batsman, there is a lot of potential there. I have liked him since the first time I got a look at him, i.e. in Australia last year. He is here to stay.
 
India should stick with him. He has talent. India don't have many seam bowling opitions.

He'll get better imo. He's young of course he will have good and bad games.
 
Someone make a 'Fahim Ashraf has the potential to be the best all-rounder in the world' thread. Rubbish player. The likes of Morris, Plunkett etc are much superior in either skills.
 
Mamoon said:
He reminds me of a young Jadeja, who used to get trolled hard and people thought he is a useless bits and pieces cricketer. He was electric in the field, but no one truly knew what his role was in the team, perhaps not even Jadeja himself. However, he had the character to pull through, and today he is a top spinner in Test cricket.

Similarly, I expect Hardik to find a niche for himself eventually, because he has the right attitude for the game - be it as a batsman or bowler. Probably a batsman, there is a lot of potential there. I have liked him since the first time I got a look at him, i.e. in Australia last year. He is here to stay.
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unlike Jadeja he will never get tailor made pitches where he can take fifers at will we saw yesterday how mediocre Jadeja can look when conditions are not to his liking.
 
Bilal7 said:
Garbage player. No better with the ball than our own Hammad Azam and apart from his power-game, he doesn't have much to show in the batting department either. Plus, he has a rotten attitude which will stop him from improving.
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Did you just compare Hammad Azam's 120-125 km/h pies to Pandya who bowls at a relatively good click...

Rotten attitude:)))

The bias doesn't get more evident than this.

He isn't some world beater nor is he going to remotely come near Stokes as a player, but he is in no way similar to Hammad.
 
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Mamoon said:
He reminds me of a young Jadeja, who used to get trolled hard and people thought he is a useless bits and pieces cricketer. He was electric in the field, but no one truly knew what his role was in the team, perhaps not even Jadeja himself. However, he had the character to pull through, and today he is a top spinner in Test cricket.

Similarly, I expect Hardik to find a niche for himself eventually, because he has the right attitude for the game - be it as a batsman or bowler. Probably a batsman, there is a lot of potential there. I have liked him since the first time I got a look at him, i.e. in Australia last year. He is here to stay.
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Great cricketing acumen as always mamoon bhai, always spotting the right talent :afridi
 
Ellipsism said:
Did you just compare Hammad Azam's 120-125 km/h pies to Pandya who bowls at a relatively good click...

Rotten attitude:)))

The bias doesn't get more evident than this.

He isn't some world beater nor is he going to remotely come near Stokes as a player, but he is in no way similar to Hammad.
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You're right. Hammad can actually be economical at times. Pandya is more akin to an Indian Bilawal Bhatti.
 
Pandya is a good lower order bat who can pitch in a few overs and field well. He is no allrounder but has good prospects.
 
If the dust has settled on the romantic posts, news articles and expert opinions on Hardik Pandya, I´d like to state something.

After someone like Sehwag and Yuvraj, he´s a rare kind of Indian batsmen and one of the few who can hit from ball one and do not require any amount of time to get their eye in. That deserves respect and is kind of an achievement amidst most of his other fellow batsmen. He´s seriously good on that front and can be useful for India, however, the all-rounder tag is something that I´m not going to buy into just as yet.

Admitted that he has bowled well mostly in the recent times, but the problem is that, especially in big games like yesterday against Sri Lanka and the semi-final against the West Indies last year, teams target him easily if they need to, literally without breaking a sweat, and set their run-rate aright on his bowling. This is something that I´m afraid will be exploited by other teams with capable batting line-ups.

Being a bowling option alone doesn´t make you an all-rounder or a great or the best all-rounder, being a good bowling option that your captain can rely on certainly does. The thing with him right now is, he has a great day if other bowlers too are having, and if they aren´t or consistent breakthroughs by others haven´t been provided, he becomes literally a nothing bowler or in fact a target for other teams. Now this isn´t what I´d associate with the likes of Flintoff or now Stokes for England, or even the very capable Kapil Dev of India from the past.

Kohli seriously needs to think about his fifth bowling option.
 
Arm chair critics like bhaag should watch the above video till end and listen to what virat says at the end of the video about pandya :srini
 
Bilal7 said:
Garbage player. No better with the ball than our own Hammad Azam and apart from his power-game, he doesn't have much to show in the batting department either. Plus, he has a rotten attitude which will stop him from improving.
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If he is a garbage player, what does that make your team against which he scored 19* @ S/R 380, and bowled 8-0-43-2?
 
Pandya is a very good batsmen and although not a Tier 1 bowler can become a very good Tier 2. He's similar to Faheem in that he can strike the ball hard, has good pace, just needs to find a consistent length and find some little movement.
 
Bilal7 said:
India will never in their existence have a bowler with as much natural talent as Amir.
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Ya, NEVER! None of our bowlers have the talent of selling off the country. And none of our bowlers have the talent of ' not taking any wicket' and still being the team :))):))):)))
 
ToeCrusher2 said:
Arm chair critics like bhaag should watch the above video till end and listen to what virat says at the end of the video about pandya :srini
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Quite well spoken too. Much more polished than the average SC cricketer.
 
Bilal7 said:
India will never in their existence have a bowler with as much natural talent as Amir.
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Amir is bowling equivalent of India's perennial Talent Rohit Sharma. People just keep talking about talent talent talent while both of them perform under strictly favourable conditions. Amir can take wicket when their is some assist like yesterday's game. Otherwise he is a wicket less wonder. Rohit can bat under batting favourable conditions. Amir and Rohit are good bowler and batsman respectively. But thats about it. This Talent tag is crap.
 
Napa said:
If he is a garbage player, what does that make your team against which he scored 19* @ S/R 380, and bowled 8-0-43-2?
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A #8 team. The Pakistani batting is the worst in this tournament, taking two wickets against them is nothing to speak of. Although, Pandya did punch above his weight in that game.
 
Pollack said:
Amir is bowling equivalent of India's perennial Talent Rohit Sharma. People just keep talking about talent talent talent while both of them perform under strictly favourable conditions. Amir can take wicket when their is some assist like yesterday's game. Otherwise he is a wicket less wonder. Rohit can bat under batting favourable conditions. Amir and Rohit are good bowler and batsman respectively. But thats about it. This Talent tag is crap.
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Except that Rohit Sharma is 31 and won't ever learn how to bat outside of flat pitches and Amir will only keep improving from here on out.
 
What a talent this guy is. Much more potential than Stokes. Those long levers are lethal and fast armspeed to go with that. Lightning in the field and handy bowler if worked on.
 
Pandya looks dangerous

Looks in no trouble all he needs is support lets hope we get him soon.
 
He is doing nothing special, he is showing why even an off form Indian team was supposed to chase down 339 within 45 overs, such a good wicket , but our batters kept getting out on half volleys. This game will save Pakistan team and give them new hope for 2019 WC
 
amazing talent can bowl with good pace , can handle the bat
 
Well played today,bowlling is still so-so,but defn a very good flat pitch prospect.
 
If I'm honest, he definitely put the cat amongst the pigeons of the Pakistani team and fans. Excellent talent. Good enough to bat at 4 or 5.
 
great innings, I doubt he could take on pacers like that. He didn't had to the way he was going against spinners
 
Good knock. Feasted on the spinners and why shouldn't he.

I wish we had a hitter like him.
 
I will try to save my judgement for another day. Good Inning but to be honest Pakistan allowed him to go big in the hope that he might get out doing so. Credit to him executing his each shot properly but it was a no pressure inning and on another day no team will allow him to play with so much freedom.Better than our lower order bats for sure.
 
desirous of desire said:
I will try to save my judgement for another day. Good Inning but to be honest Pakistan allowed him to go big in the hope that he might get out doing so. Credit to him executing his each shot properly but it was a no pressure inning and on another day no team will allow him to play with so much freedom.Better than our lower order bats for sure.
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Yes for sure anyone can hit big without the pressure, but his bowling was impressive too. He looks a good player.
 
He is okay but not a terrific cricketer. Deserves to be in XI no doubt with that.
 
Bowling is ok for a young bowler who is the 5th bowling option bowling at 140+. Is great... Needs to learn how to bowl Yorkers and some variations and he can be a good 5th bowling option..
 
Feeling Gutted for Pandya, Jadeja should have sacrificed his wicket

Not that he would have let India to a win, but considering the fight that he had shown.... Jadeja should have sacrificed his wicket for the batsman who was striking it freely.

Nearly everyone is criticizing Jadeja in the media , some experts are even saying that players like Jadeja play for themselves so that they can improve their average instead of playing for the greater goodwill of the team .

I don't see any reason why Jadeja would come couple of steps forward and then runs back to crease to save his wicket.
 
Jaddu didn't move a inch, LMAO what a selfish player. Its like Fakhar getting run out instead of Azhar Ali.
 
Exactly. How selfish was Jadeja, as it is it was a bad call then u leave this guys stranded. India needs to get rid of such people.
 
Jadeja should be kicked out of the team for denying us a Pandya Spectable.
 
Might have won the match today, however IND really played so poorly in this CT, PK is the only deserving winner
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Yes for sure anyone can hit big without the pressure, but his bowling was impressive too. He looks a good player.
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Definitely a good all rounder and he has the ability to hit big. I was just arguing about the fact that it was very easy situation for him to hit big.
 
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