Hardik Pandya has the potential to be the best all-rounder in the world

[sensible-indian-fan]

India huffed and puffed to win the game. Even as an indian i am dusgusted with the pitches we lay down for odis and t 20s. There is nothing there for the bowlers . at least play a day game where there will be something for fast and slow bowlers

True.

Disgraceful pitches.

But 2 gun batting units made it an exciting game.

 

[Syed1]

True.

Disgraceful pitches.

But 2 gun batting units made it an exciting game.

Correction, 2 gun batting units + 2 lollipop bowling attacks

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Then he better play only in IPL or stick to gully cricket.

Most LOI pitches are super flat and any bowler who does not know how to bowl a yorker/slower ball/bouncer are bound to be destroyed on most occasions.

Pandya has no variations. He does not have a go to ball. The only stock ball he has is, bowl gun barrel straight and read Hanuman Chalisa.

) at the bolded part.

Funny.

I think we have no other option. If we drop Pandya, then we have to get a pacer thereby sacrificing our batting.

Pandya has raw potential with both ball and bat even though he is a bit of a hack in both as of now.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Correction, 2 gun batting units + 2 lollipop bowling attacks

How can you call our bowling in this game lollipop?

We had Bhuvi, Bumrah, Pandya, Ashwin, Jaddu.

Bhuvi, Ashwin and Jaddu had an amazing game on a slightly turning but supremely high scoring pitch.

Bumrah and Pandya had bad days.

Then there was dew.

In CT 2017, Shami will be back too.

 

[troodon]

) at the bolded part.

Funny.

I think we have no other option. If we drop Pandya, then we have to get a pacer thereby sacrificing our batting.

Pandya has raw potential with both ball and bat even though he is a bit of a hack in both as of now.

Get in Raina at least for Indian pitches. He will be lot more useful with the ball.

Also Raina >>>>> Pandya with the bat.

For over seas, if the pitches are green, then we can go with Pandya. Otherwise, we shoudl stick to Raina or even select another batsman like Pant or Pandey.

 

[Drreddymd]

) at the bolded part.

Funny.

I think we have no other option. If we drop Pandya, then we have to get a pacer thereby sacrificing our batting.

Pandya has raw potential with both ball and bat even though he is a bit of a hack in both as of now.

He is the worst bowler i have seen play for india. He always bowls short of length hit me balls as default or stock balls.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Get in Raina at least for Indian pitches. He will be lot more useful with the ball.

Also Raina >>>>> Pandya with the bat.

For over seas, if the pitches are green, then we can go with Pandya. Otherwise, we shoudl stick to Raina or even select another batsman like Pant or Pandey.

You are comparing apples to oranges.

Raina in isolation as a part timer will be good.

If he has to do Pandya's job, he will be destroyed.

 

[Drreddymd]

Get in Raina at least for Indian pitches. He will be lot more useful with the ball.

Also Raina >>>>> Pandya with the bat.

For over seas, if the pitches are green, then we can go with Pandya. Otherwise, we shoudl stick to Raina or even select another batsman like Pant or Pandey.

Absolutely. atleast play raina instead of him. He is a better batsmen than pandya and better spinner than jadhav

 

[JattMaula]

We have a raw hard hitting FAST bowling all-rounder.

Let's not develop him in JAMODI'S.

Let's replace him with a phaast bowler or a Axar.

 

[160KPH]

Terrible bowler. Has gotten way too lucky in the beginning of his career.

 

[troodon]

You are comparing apples to oranges.

Raina in isolation as a part timer will be good.

If he has to do Pandya's job, he will be destroyed.

Can't be worse than Pandya.

Also, if we need 30-40 runs with the bat, I would trust Raina to do that over Pandya any day.

Pandya might for for 70 runs in 10 overs. Raina will go for 80 runs (lets assume).

Then with the bat, Raina will score 40 runs while Pandya might score 20 runs if lucky.

Raina still wins.

 

[JattMaula]

We have a raw hard hitting FAST bowling all-rounder.

Let's not develop him in JAMODI'S.

Let's replace him with a phaast bowler or a Axar.

It's not as if next CT and WC are in England.

 

[Drreddymd]

Terrible bowler. Has gotten way too lucky in the beginning of his career.

Oh my god his swagger is even worse than ahmad shazad and he is not even half a player of shazad

 

[JattMaula]

Can't be worse than Pandya.

Also, if we need 30-40 runs with the bat, I would trust Raina to do that over Pandya any day.

Pandya might for for 70 runs in 10 overs. Raina will go for 80 runs (lets assume).

Then with the bat, Raina will score 40 runs while Pandya might score 20 runs if lucky.

Raina still wins.

So we play only 2 pacers?

 

[street cricketer]

Then he better play only in IPL or stick to gully cricket.

Most LOI pitches are super flat and any bowler who does not know how to bowl a yorker/slower ball/bouncer are bound to be destroyed on most occasions.

Pandya has no variations. He does not have a go to ball. The only stock ball he has is, bowl gun barrel straight and read Hanuman Chalisa.

He's a poor man's Ben Stokes. I don't think he should be playing LOIs, atleast in asia.

But I definitely think he will have a good career in test cricket. Has all the ingredients.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Absolutely. atleast play raina instead of him. He is a better batsmen than pandya and better spinner than jadhav

He gets movement off the pitch. Just can't be used in death. We are not blessed with ARs. Let's atleast give him a proper chance and see. Last game, Pandya was the best pacer of the lot.

Even Bumrah sucked today and he is our best death bowler.

Can't be worse than Pandya.

Also, if we need 30-40 runs with the bat, I would trust Raina to do that over Pandya any day.

Pandya might for for 70 runs in 10 overs. Raina will go for 80 runs (lets assume).

Then with the bat, Raina will score 40 runs while Pandya might score 20 runs if lucky.

Raina still wins.

Will be if you ask him to do Pandya's job. What if a pacer has an off day? Who will bowl at the death when you have just 2 pacers?

Its like bedsheet bro.

You have to cover all sides.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

I am not a fan of Pandya but cmon guys.

Look at the situation.

The only solution for this is if Ashwin develops himself into a ODI AR.

Only then we can go with 3 full time pacers.

Or else, we have to compromise our batting which is already dodgy (for the time being) regardless of the 350 scores we are putting up.

 

[Drreddymd]

He's a poor man's Ben Stokes. I don't think he should be playing LOIs, atleast in asia.

But I definitely think he will have a good career in test cricket. Has all the ingredients.

If our so called fast bowlers are useless then i think u r expecting too much from the filth he serves as bowling and he is a hack as a batsman and not a proper batsman as well

 

[troodon]

^ I am not worried about him going for runs.

Its been 2 years since we have been seeing this Pandya guy around the team. He got consistent run. Did not develop any variations in that time.

Okay, Yorkers are hard. Not eveyone can do bowl them. But at least try a slow off cutter or a slow bouncer or something.

If a bowler's day depends on batsman's mercy meter, then that bowler should never be selected. To couple with this, he is a hack with the bat. One of those Bits and Pieces player like Mark Ealham, Adam Holloike types.

Give Pandya a break. Let him develop a few variations and then bring him back in the team. He is not going to learn on the run. He is making me want Binny in the team.

 

[Drreddymd]

^ I am not worried about him going for runs.

Its been 2 years since we have been seeing this Pandya guy around the team. He got consistent run. Did not develop any variations in that time.

Okay, Yorkers are hard. Not eveyone can do bowl them. But at least try a slow off cutter or a slow bouncer or something.

If a bowler's day depends on batsman's mercy meter, then that bowler should never be selected. To couple with this, he is a hack with the bat. One of those Bits and Pieces player like Mark Ealham, Adam Holloike types.

Give Pandya a break. Let him develop a few variations and then bring him back in the team. He is not going to learn on the run. He is making me want Binny in the team.

Absolutely spot on. He runs and bowls without any plan and then prays that a batsmen gets out to a fluke shot and not on his bowling

 

[street cricketer]

If our so called fast bowlers are useless then i think u r expecting too much from the filth he serves as bowling and he is a hack as a batsman and not a proper batsman as well

Think you guys get swayed too much by jamodi matches.

Test matches have different requirements and different set of skills which I think he is decent at. I've been banging on since months in the same thread that he has the potential in test cricket. I don't care if he succeeds or flops in LOIs.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

^ I am not worried about him going for runs.

Its been 2 years since we have been seeing this Pandya guy around the team. He got consistent run. Did not develop any variations in that time.

Okay, Yorkers are hard. Not eveyone can do bowl them. But at least try a slow off cutter or a slow bouncer or something.

If a bowler's day depends on batsman's mercy meter, then that bowler should never be selected. To couple with this, he is a hack with the bat. One of those Bits and Pieces player like Mark Ealham, Adam Holloike types.

Give Pandya a break. Let him develop a few variations and then bring him back in the team. He is not going to learn on the run. He is making me want Binny in the team.

Pandya is getting chances from Asia Cup T20s 2016.

Then World T20.

Then NZ series.

Then this series.

So pretty much the 2nd 50 over series if I am not wrong.

 

[troodon]

Pandya is getting chances from Asia Cup T20s 2016.

Then World T20.

Then NZ series.

Then this series.

So pretty much the 2nd 50 over series if I am not wrong.

Okay. So may be not 2 years. The problem here is that he has no variations to save himself from getting badly thrashed.

At this point, he is neither a batsman nor a bowler. Weak in both departments.

Pandya is like one of those fat kids who gets selected into the school wrestling team even though he has no skills or strength.

 

[Drreddymd]

Think you guys get swayed too much by jamodi matches.

Test matches have different requirements and different set of skills which I think he is decent at. I've been banging on since months in the same thread that he has the potential in test cricket. I don't care if he succeeds or flops in LOIs.

How can he succeed in tests if his stock ball is short of good length which is harmless in test matches. He is not a swing and seam Bowler. He is what u call hit the deck type but doesnt have the pace, height and skill As well

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Okay. So may be not 2 years. The problem here is that he has no variations to save himself from getting badly thrashed.

At this point, he is neither a batsman nor a bowler. Weak in both departments.

Pandya is like one of those fat kids who gets selected into the school wrestling team even though he has no skills or strength.

Every team has that 5th bowler who is protected.

Pandya is there to give us the security in case one of our pacers goes off. The fact that he can bowl with the new ball and the fact that Bhuvi can bowl in death is great news for us.

Use up Pandya's overs at the start or middle. In case, any bowler is off, use Jadhav and Yuvi to make up the overs.

However Pandya has to repay the faith with his batting. I am not convinced with him but I would give him more chances.

We don't really have an option. There is literally no other option. Its almost suicide if we go with 2 pacers on a flat track. If our spinners have a bad day when we play 2pacers, we won't be able to defend 400.

Other option is to weaken the batting.

 

[JattMaula]

How can he succeed in tests if his stock ball is short of good length which is harmless in test matches. He is not a swing and seam Bowler. He is what u call hit the deck type but doesnt have the pace, height and skill As well

We are not Australia. Our domestic "pace" bowlers will make you want to consider leaving cricket altogether. Our best domestic bowlers are Vinay and DINDA.

Best bet is to develop those who at least have minimum pace to be considered a pacer.

 

[Statsman]

Not sold on him. I somehow see some big phainties with the ball and some low scores for him in future and people starting to call for his ouster. Hope I'm proven wrong though.

+1 to my earlier statement. I see a career full of big phainties but I hope I'm proven wrong.

 

[street cricketer]

How can he succeed in tests if his stock ball is short of good length which is harmless in test matches. He is not a swing and seam Bowler. He is what u call hit the deck type but doesnt have the pace, height and skill As well

He did move the ball in the NZ series when he pitched it fuller.

Think he bowled short due to the unforgiving pitches. Experienced bowlers like Stokes went at 9 an over. He went at 10 an over. Not much difference I say. I think his strength is his accuracy.

 

[Statsman]

Protect him as a bowler, protect him as a batsman. What value is he providing then?

 

[troodon]

Every team has that 5th bowler who is protected.

Pandya is there to give us the security in case one of our pacers goes off. The fact that he can bowl with the new ball and the fact that Bhuvi can bowl in death is great news for us.

Use up Pandya's overs at the start or middle. In case, any bowler is off, use Jadhav and Yuvi to make up the overs.

However Pandya has to repay the faith with his batting. I am not convinced with him but I would give him more chances.

We don't really have an option. There is literally no other option. Its almost suicide if we go with 2 pacers on a flat track. If our spinners have a bad day when we play 2pacers, we won't be able to defend 400.

Other option is to weaken the batting.

You are talking as if having 3 pacers will protect us from getting thrashed when our spinners get carted.

Pandya should develop skills in Ranji matches or First Class cricket. Not at international stage. He is also not a quick learner to me.
Not once Pandya even tried a slower ball when the batsmen are destroying him. Keeps bowling the same length over and over again.

 

[Drreddymd]

We are not Australia. Our domestic "pace" bowlers will make you want to consider leaving cricket altogether. Our best domestic bowlers are Vinay and DINDA.

Best bet is to develop those who at least have minimum pace to be considered a pacer.

He played more than 20 matches in a short time and he hasnt done anything of note other than a 4 for against pak in asia cup

 

[troodon]

Protect him as a bowler, protect him as a batsman. What value is he providing then?

He is making sure that Kohli has big enough target to score a century.

Increasing Kohli's Century count while chasing is the only value he adds.

Forgot to add, he is making sure Dinda and Vinay are not making a comeback.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

You are talking as if having 3 pacers will protect us from getting thrashed when our spinners get carted.

Pandya should develop skills in Ranji matches or First Class cricket. Not at international stage. He is also not a quick learner to me.
Not once Pandya even tried a slower ball when the batsmen are destroying him. Keeps bowling the same length over and over again.

If you really believe we can stay in games without 3 pacers, then what else can I say.

Last game, Ashwin was thrashed. Yet we won the game because the 5th bowler played his role. If a spinner had played that game and bowled in death (cos Umesh also had a bad day), the total would have been too much.

Last game is a direct example.

 

[JattMaula]

He played more than 20 matches in a short time and he hasnt done anything of note other than a 4 for against pak in asia cup

Of course he is mediocre LOI bowler. But he is better than Binny, Rishi Dhawan or Irfan Pathan. We are playing him as a all-rounder. Remember Jadeja's first year or two. He was called one dimensional bowler and a hack. Have little trust in people who know some cricket like Dravid.

 

[troodon]

If you really believe we can stay in games without 3 pacers, then what else can I say.

Last game, Ashwin was thrashed. Yet we won the game because the 5th bowler played his role. If a spinner had played that game and bowled in death (cos Umesh also had a bad day), the total would have been too much.

Last game is a direct example.

If Shami and BK are getting destroyed, then there is no hope for Pandya. So even if Pandya plays, he will be useless with the ball.

My gripe with Pandya is not about his economy. It is his lack of brains and variations. What good is your 5th bowler if he cannot bowl a slower ball or slower bouncer like a Faulkner does?
So pretty much Pandya is useless on flat wickets with the ball unless batsmen gifts their wickets to him.

Also, Pandya's batting is very weak. Can hit non-spinning spinners and may be 120k trundlers. But the moment someone bowls in excess of 135 clicks come, he plays like Venkatesh Prasad.

 

[Cricfan4eva]

If Shami and BK are getting destroyed, then there is no hope for Pandya. So even if Pandya plays, he will be useless with the ball.

My gripe with Pandya is not about his economy. It is his lack of brains and variations. What good is your 5th bowler if he cannot bowl a slower ball or slower bouncer like a Faulkner does?
So pretty much Pandya is useless on flat wickets with the ball unless batsmen gifts their wickets to him.

Also, Pandya's batting is very weak. Can hit non-spinning spinners and may be 120k trundlers. But the moment someone bowls in excess of 135 clicks come, he plays like Venkatesh Prasad.

Pandya is no Faulkner or Stokes. Maybe we are getting carried away here but he is the best we have got, a much better upgrade than Binny.

There is hope because a) he bowls quick, b) he can hit big. So he can be developed into a decent "PACE" A/R which we have always been looking for. We may well dismiss him for Raina but who do we take when we tour abroad?

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

If Shami and BK are getting destroyed, then there is no hope for Pandya. So even if Pandya plays, he will be useless with the ball.

My gripe with Pandya is not about his economy. It is his lack of brains and variations. What good is your 5th bowler if he cannot bowl a slower ball or slower bouncer like a Faulkner does?
So pretty much Pandya is useless on flat wickets with the ball unless batsmen gifts their wickets to him.

Also, Pandya's batting is very weak. Can hit non-spinning spinners and may be 120k trundlers. But the moment someone bowls in excess of 135 clicks come, he plays like Venkatesh Prasad.

Theoretically true but not so much in reality.

Umesh and Bumrah got destroyed last game. Pandya didn't (yes he didn't bowl in death but he took wickets in middle overs which is the very hard).

The advantage pacers have over spinners is that on pattas, they can prevent those 20 run overs. If you play with 3 spinners on a patta, you could lose the game at any stage. Pollard has won COUNTLESS games for MI attacking spinners and stealing the runs from them.

I agree with all your concerns about Pandya (except batting where he is untested against proper pacers). Its just that we have to make a compromise for team XI and use him intelligently.

If you have a credible alternative where our batting doesn't get weakened and we can play 3 pacers, I am all ears.

 

[troodon]

Theoretically true but not so much in reality.

Umesh and Bumrah got destroyed last game. Pandya didn't (yes he didn't bowl in death but he took wickets in middle overs which is the very hard).

The advantage pacers have over spinners is that on pattas, they can prevent those 20 run overs. If you play with 3 spinners on a patta, you could lose the game at any stage. Pollard has won COUNTLESS games for MI attacking spinners and stealing the runs from them.

I agree with all your concerns about Pandya (except batting where he is untested against proper pacers). Its just that we have to make a compromise for team XI and use him intelligently.

If you have a credible alternative where our batting doesn't get weakened and we can play 3 pacers, I am all ears.

Bumrah has a wonderful yorker and a very good slower one. Umesh is also brainless. He at least tries to bowl a yorker once a while to keep the batsman guessing.

On the other hand Pandya can ***** Crickets*****

 

[troodon]

Bottom line is, Pandya should not be played on flat pitches. Someone like Raina or even a batsman should play.

If the pitch is green, then Pandya can get in the side.

LOI matches on flat beds are no place to learn. Pandya should practice some slower balls first in domestic matches. So far, he has not done anything noteworthy to deserve such a long rope.

 

[Hasan123]

Needs to improve his bowling, ATM teams will target him. His batting will be useful for India down the order. I would stick with him not like India has many other opitions.

 

[Idli Vada]

Correction, 2 gun batting units + 2 lollipop bowling attacks

Pretty much agree with your comments. I just can't understand how this chap Pandya and Dhawan make it into our team. Surprised that Bumrah is not very effective. Why is India not trying Deepak Hooda in place of Pandya? He is a decent bat and England play medium pacers better than spin. If Pandya plays in CT, we can kiss goodbye to semis.
On the contrary, English bowling is better - they will probably replace Plunkett or Willis with Broad in CT.
They bat really deep.

 

[Sin Nombre]

India will also have Shami and Rohit in the xi, both are gun players in ODIs.

 

[Napa]

Get in Raina at least for Indian pitches. He will be lot more useful with the ball.

Also Raina >>>>> Pandya with the bat.

For over seas, if the pitches are green, then we can go with Pandya. Otherwise, we shoudl stick to Raina or even select another batsman like Pant or Pandey.

He is the worst bowler i have seen play for india. He always bowls short of length hit me balls as default or stock balls.

Terrible bowler. Has gotten way too lucky in the beginning of his career.

) at the bolded part.

Funny.

I think we have no other option. If we drop Pandya, then we have to get a pacer thereby sacrificing our batting.

Pandya has raw potential with both ball and bat even though he is a bit of a hack in both as of now.

I would like to remind all posters that though Pandya got hammered in the second ODI, he was our best bowler in the first ODI. Also he scored 59 without getting out in the two ODIs at a strike rate of 128. In fact the extra 10 runs (19 off 9) that he scored in the second ODI may have been critical for our win.

 

[Muhammad Saad]

My favorite upcoming player these days , (I have a thing for fast bowling allrounders) loads of potential can become Flintoff type if he continues to progress.

 

[joly]

Pandya ,potentially a match winning spell today

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

3 crucial wickets. Lends balance.

 

[Sin Nombre]

So bowled well in two of the three matches, and has batted as per expectations so far.

Can someone explain the criticism?

 

[Abdullah]

Pandya ,potentially a match winning spell today

if india win this it is because of this spell

 

[street cricketer]

I hope he gets a chance at Dharmasala vs Australia.

Bowled some very good seam up deliveries initially and beat the bat quite a few times. Mixes it up with rubbish though and need to cut out on those if he wants to succeed in the longer format. He will be a key player for us in the overseas tours.

 

[Zak_Fan]

Pandaya is all about raw talent. His attitude and work ethic will decide if he gets a longer run with Indian team or not.

 

[Pollack]

Not the best but good enough he can be for India.

 

[joly]

Couldn't finish the inning but played a gem

 

[JaDed]

Would be caught often on other grounds,plays too many risky shots,needs to evolve more can be an asset to us on seaming pitches.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

What a game he had.

But has to tighten up his batting. Can't have such a risk prone batting and succeed in the long run.

 

[JaDed]

What a game he had.

But has to tighten up his batting. Can't have such a risk prone batting and succeed in the long run.

Yes esp in bigger grounds he would caught easily on a bouncer.But somehow he has done well this series.

 

[Zak_Fan]

His batting is total fluke and seeing his technique, I have no hopes of improvement. But overall, he is a great utility player.

 

[JattMaula]

Lost shape too many times. Still good(lucky) inning.

Bowled mediocre first spell but came back awesomely to bowl second economical spell. Wickets were pure luck though.

 

[GLORY OF '92]

Pakistan would kill for a player like him just like India would have for Razzaq 15 years ago.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

His batting is total fluke and seeing his technique, I have no hopes of improvement. But overall, he is a great utility player.

Lost shape too many times. Still good(lucky) inning.

Bowled mediocre first spell but came back awesomely to bowl second economical spell. Wickets were pure luck though.

For a long career, he has to make the team as a batsman or bowler.

I think he is a batsman who bowls.

 

[Napa]

He has not improved since his debut. In fact he seems to have regressed. His bowling is average and batting is below average. Does not merit a place in the team.

India should try some youngsters like Sarfraz Khan, Agarawal, Iyer, Pant etc. They have much higher ceiling than this dud Hardik.

Then he better play only in IPL or stick to gully cricket.

Pandya has no variations. He does not have a go to ball. The only stock ball he has is, bowl gun barrel straight and read Hanuman Chalisa.

He can only hit spinners. He is a total dud against pace bowling.

Still not sold on Pandya. He is a hack both with bat and ball.

Would rather select someone like Pant to bolster our batting. Play Raina who can bowl 10 overs. He will give away the same number of runs as Pandya. I can at least trust Raina's batting.

Get in Raina at least for Indian pitches. He will be lot more useful with the ball.

Also Raina >>>>> Pandya with the bat.

. Let him develop a few variations and then bring him back in the team. He is not going to learn on the run. He is making me want Binny in the team.

You seem to be running a one-man campaign against Pandya.

For this series Pandya has a batting average of 115 at a strike rate of 130. Probably the best Indian bat, with a higher average than Kohli, Yuvi, Dhoni etc.

He has been our best bowler in the 1st and 3rd ODIs.

 

[spade]

Useful for t20 only.

 

[RamLakhan]

So much criticism for a certain player is not good, similarly don't hype him and glorify him. Make him do his job as a workhorse (Just similar to what we did with Jadeja). I think he is a sort of guy who should be kept in control and asked to work. We will never produce world class pacer/alrounder or make someone world class forcefully. It might happen on its own if it wants to happen (like how Shane Warne emerged in Australia which is not known for producing world class spinners!)

Hence let him do that utility job for us otherwise he will fade away like Binny & co. We should concentrate on our main players and strengths (Let Rohit and Shami get back in LOIs)

 

[Pollack]

For a long career, he has to make the team as a batsman or bowler.

I think he is a batsman who bowls.

On the contrary he seems to be developing his bowling more. His batting is still the same.Ugly and cross bat hoicks.I would say at the moment he is a bowler who could bat.

 

[Pollack]

His batting is total fluke and seeing his technique, I have no hopes of improvement. But overall, he is a great utility player.

Yes his technique is cringe worthy. But so was his bowling and he is improving.Not unfair to believe he will improve his batting as well.

 

[Rightarmfast]

?? HE is moved to 90s now? was around 85-87 last.

Yeah, he has been touching 143k's pretty often and has touches 145 also.

 

[JaDed]

Yeah, he has been touching 143k's pretty often and has touches 145 also.

Hope he doesn't get carried away in England,its not about pace in England unless its a yorker.

 

[Zahid87]

Dont see the need for all the negativity. You have a guy who can bowl a ball at 135k+, and tonk a few runs with the bat.

Raw potential is there, it just needs to be honed and polished. Pakistan is crying out for someone capable of doing a similar job. Pace bowling all rounders are like gold dust.

 

[Ab Fan]

Comparison with Kevin Petersen was one of the most funniest and ridiculous thing to have done in this forum.

But the guy can be a useful no.7 bat and also a decent fifth bowling option for non Asian conditions.

Potential is there for an Indian pace bowling all-rounder point of view but he has no chance of becoming the best all rounder in the world unless there is a dearth of quality all rounders all-round the world.

 

[joly]

Pandya shows how it is done, Jordon not an easy bowler to hit straightaway ,hack or no hack,this kid has the sparks

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Pandya shows how it is done, Jordon not an easy bowler to hit straightaway ,hack or no hack,this kid has the sparks

Jordan is the easiest bowler to hit.

Has a T20 economy of 8.35.

If Jade Derchback marries Vinay Koomar and has a baby, its Jordan.

 

[Syed1]

Jordan is the easiest bowler to hit.

Has a T20 economy of 8.35.

If Jade Derchback marries Vinay Koomar and has a baby, its Jordan.

Oh Lord, that was funny )

 

[JaDed]

Jordan is the easiest bowler to hit.

Has a T20 economy of 8.35.

If Jade Derchback marries Vinay Koomar and has a baby, its Jordan.

)

 

[joly]

Jordan is the easiest bowler to hit.

Has a T20 economy of 8.35.

If Jade Derchback marries Vinay Koomar and has a baby, its Jordan.

) but Vinay kumar has an express speed of 122kph

 

[Napa]

[MENTION=141520]troodon[/MENTION]. Your previous posts about Pandya:

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He has not improved since his debut. In fact he seems to have regressed. His bowling is average and batting is below average. Does not merit a place in the team.

India should try some youngsters like Sarfraz Khan, Agarawal, Iyer, Pant etc. They have much higher ceiling than this dud Hardik.
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Then he better play only in IPL or stick to gully cricket.

Pandya has no variations. He does not have a go to ball. The only stock ball he has is, bowl gun barrel straight and read Hanuman Chalisa.
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He can only hit spinners. He is a total dud against pace bowling.
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Still not sold on Pandya. He is a hack both with bat and ball.

Would rather select someone like Pant to bolster our batting. Play Raina who can bowl 10 overs. He will give away the same number of runs as Pandya. I can at least trust Raina's batting.
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Get in Raina at least for Indian pitches. He will be lot more useful with the ball.

Also Raina >>>>> Pandya with the bat.
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. Let him develop a few variations and then bring him back in the team. He is not going to learn on the run. He is making me want Binny in the team.

You seem to be running a one-man campaign against Pandya.

For this series Pandya has a batting average of 115 at a strike rate of 130. Probably the best Indian bat, with a higher average than Kohli, Yuvi, Dhoni etc.

He has been our best bowler in the 1st and 3rd ODIs.

How do you like your crow served, medium rare maybe?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Hold your horses and crows there [MENTION=142162]Napa[/MENTION] (Indian Supporter). Let him play for atleast 2-3 years and not hype him yet.

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

He is my favourite all rounder at the moment, probably the best fast bowling all rounder ever produced in the sub continent in the last 20 years

 

[JattMaula]

I have consumed too much grape water but I must say this....


I TOLD YU ALL....!!!!

 

[FlickedOffHips]

True Dat. only 23.

 

[Zak_Fan]

He can be our Razzaq.

 

[Napa]

He can be our Razzaq.

Your ambitions for him are too low. Did you watch his sixes today?