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Hardik Pandya has the potential to be the best all-rounder in the world

He's a trailblazer. A true rockstar. Love his attitude.
 
Napa said:
Your ambitions for him are too low. Did you watch his sixes today?
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I don't remember much of Razzaq, but fans here have some really good things to say about him. I even remember some posts comparing him to Kapil, so I assumed that he was really good.
 
A real talent at just 23 years of age, Hardik will play for India for a long time.
 
SandyB said:
Not that good, YET.. But he's improving rapidly, which is amazing.
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Much much better already.

Devastating with the bat, and steady bowler.

Posters have been underestimating him ever since he came burst into the scene.
 
He can be the specialist finisher India never had. Pakistan and Lanka did have such before.
 
Stokes is at the top of the list. Pandya is carving a niche for himself in the limited over format.
 
Napa said:
That's okay. The great thing about Pandya is his attitude. You can see he is completely focused on his own performance and doesn't let critics bother him.
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Oh I have no issues with him nor am I criticising him. Hi just don't think be will be a quality allrounder. I might be wrong but don't think he has the mettle for international cricket.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Oh I have no issues with him nor am I criticising him. Hi just don't think be will be a quality allrounder. I might be wrong but don't think he has the mettle for international cricket.
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He looks like a technically superior version of Yusuf pathan.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Oh I have no issues with him nor am I criticising him. Hi just don't think be will be a quality allrounder. I might be wrong but don't think he has the mettle for international cricket.
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I would say anyone who is currently averaging 60 at a S/R of 129 in "international cricket" ODIs should be regarded as having more than sufficient mettle.
 
SandyB said:
Not that good, YET.. But he's improving rapidly, which is amazing.
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I am assuming you were too young when Razzaq was playing or you never watched him play. The kind of cricket Pandya has been displaying, he is atleast a couple of notches above Razzaq and Azhar Mahmood. Either of these Pakistani bowlers were not as destructive as Hardik. Hardik, if he plays consistent can become someone like Chris Cairns.
 
avidlearner said:
A very good prospect for us. Hope he develops into a complete pace bowling (in excess of 135 kph on a consistent basis) all-rounder that we are lacking in any forms of the game.

Soon he should become a permanent fixture in our 50 overs line up as well.
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Wrote this during his debut T20I series. He is fast becoming an irreplaceable asset for our Limited overs team.

Good on him!
 
Let him be his own player. No need to hype him as world's best or so. As long as he gets the job done (as he did in the match against Pakistan), he is alright. Let him be the first Hardik Pandya, instead of trying to compare him with some other allrounders.
 
Someone who can bowl 85 mph and hit 6s from ball one!! Awesome addition. We should however tone down our expectations and let him develop for the next 12-18 months.
 
His bowling still isn't that great,but kudos to him for atleast improving the pace.
 
Rightarmfast said:
I am assuming you were too young when Razzaq was playing or you never watched him play. The kind of cricket Pandya has been displaying, he is atleast a couple of notches above Razzaq and Azhar Mahmood. Either of these Pakistani bowlers were not as destructive as Hardik. Hardik, if he plays consistent can become someone like Chris Cairns.
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Wasn't Razzaq's bowling way better ? I meant he could Reverse the ball way better.
 
SandyB said:
Wasn't Razzaq's bowling way better ? I meant he could Reverse the ball way better.
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You are talking of an experienced Razzaq. Hardik is still in the making. The way he bowled yesterday, he demanded respect. It was already a couple notches above Razzaq. Razzaq wasnt as imposing as hardik looked yesterday.
 
I would take bowling against Pakistan batsmen with a grain of salt.

His true test will come against better teams in Champions Trophy.

His batting is pretty good though.
 
Pandya has the potential to turn around India's LOI fortunes. Great find.
 
He is a sensational player , you could see from his IPL performances that he was going to be the indian team mainstay in the upcoming years and possibly even Virat's successor as captain.
 
Too smaller sample size to make assumption yet. In T20, he might be handy. Miles ahead of the Roger Bunny (BD destroyer) fella though.
 
I was a huge critic of him. Pandya is feeding me some humble pie. It's clear that Pandya has improved in the past few months.

My gripe with him is, can Pandya hit fast bowlers the same way as he hits spinners and mediocre trundlers? Jury is still out on that.

I rate his brother Krunal more over Hardik. Unfortunately, as long as Jaddu is there, Krunal has no chance.
 
Sidilicious said:
Yup, thats my fear too.

If he can become the reliable 3rd seamer of the team, then he becomes the game changer. He is not there yet, but has certainly improved over the last 12 months.
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Yeah exactly just watching his deliveries, I feel better batsman will murder him. :(
 
Krunal Pandya, his elder brother is also one to look out for. He is a hard hitter who bowls decent spin.
This is like Irfan pathan and ysuf pathan combination.
 
Have to say this when i first saw him his ectomorphic body frame doest instill confidence in me.. i thought this dudes not cut for international cricket with genetics against him.. but he has proved me wrong.. he is lion. If not in bowling well he will still be a handy lower order explosive batsman for india.
 
At 23 I think he is a better all rounder that Ben Stokes at that age. Razzaaq was a brilliant bowler, I remember him opening with Shoaib during the 99 tour and he had just made his debut. His batting was more of a competent slogger and amongst the first in the modern era to clear the front foot and hit the bowler to all parts of the ground. Hardik is a better batsman than him, nowhere near him as a bowler.

I think we should compare Hardik with his contemporaries, namely Ben Stokes, Great Mitchell Marsh, over hyped Phehlukwayo, talented Corey Anderson and Jimmy Neesham. Of all of these as a package he is just a couple of notches below Stokes, though I dont think Stokes as a bowler is complete yet.
 
Rightarmfast said:
You are talking of an experienced Razzaq. Hardik is still in the making. The way he bowled yesterday, he demanded respect. It was already a couple notches above Razzaq. Razzaq wasnt as imposing as hardik looked yesterday.
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Maybe I'm just nostalgic about pakistans last great era.
 
He is no Razzaq.At his peak Razzaq was a frontline bowler.

But Hardik is only 23 and our only fast bowling AR hope.
 
The big question is can he make it as a Test all rounder? much much easier to be a ODI all rounder than a Test allrounder. In Test his batting will need a good technique, and he will need to bowl fast and move the ball around, where as in ODI he can slog and just bowl and get wickets as the batters are going for a slog
 
Timewaster said:
The big question is can he make it as a Test all rounder? much much easier to be a ODI all rounder than a Test allrounder. In Test his batting will need a good technique, and he will need to bowl fast and move the ball around, where as in ODI he can slog and just bowl and get wickets as the batters are going for a slog
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test doest require explosive batsmen.. tuk tukers make hay in tests
 
People just talk about his batting and bowling, but with that, he is one of the best fielders in the world currently
 
A work in progress. Let's not get carried away. His batting needs improvement. His bowling on the other hand has a lot of potential. Just about bowling right lengths now. Has speed and decent accuracy.Saw him taking ball away from right handers. Has a mean bouncer. Can bowl wide bouncers. So far he is performing contrary to his abilities. He is batting better and bowling much lower than he potentially can.
 
pandyas.PNG Indian version of Waugh brothers for ODI and T20s for next few years.
The better player of the two brothers is yet to debut in Indian team. Right now Jadeja is blocking his spot ( although deservedly).
Krunal is better hitter of the ball into the stands compared to jadeja and his spin bowling is on par if not better.
But since Jadeja is currently performing well he has to wait.
Krunal was one of key contributors for Mumbai Indians winning IPL this year.
 
mp812rediff said:
View attachment 74572 Indian version of Waugh brothers for ODI and T20s for next few years.
The better player of the two brothers is yet to debut in Indian team. Right now Jadeja is blocking his spot ( although deservedly).
Krunal is better hitter of the ball into the stands compared to jadeja and his spin bowling is on par if not better.
But since Jadeja is currently performing well he has to wait.
Krunal was one of key contributors for Mumbai Indians winning IPL this year.
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Krunal is a good fielder. But Jadeja is a game changer in the field. He is a dynamite and always has a game changing catch or run out when ever he plays.

On turning tracks for ODI's, I would play both Krunal and Jaddu. Even Kuldeep.
 
troodon said:
Krunal is a good fielder. But Jadeja is a game changer in the field. He is a dynamite and always has a game changing catch or run out when ever he plays.

On turning tracks for ODI's, I would play both Krunal and Jaddu. Even Kuldeep.
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Krunal can play as a specialist batsman with some tweaks in his batting. A batsman who can bowl part time though he is a bit better than a part timer. And Jadeja also plays.
 
He's a great talent. Wish him well. Lovely confidence and movements to execute big shots. Would love to see him against better bowlers but an all rounder that can hit it out of the park will always be a danger for the opposition.

Bowling is nice and tidy but why wouldn't it be when you are aiming at sitting ducks
 
Love this forum... Comparaisons with Razaaq and Stokes and all this being really serious.

This Panda guy is not made for international cricket... He will not even play 50 ODI's for India. Incredible how every poster blindly follows each other here without even looking at how the guy bats or ball.
 
Mobashir said:
Comparaisons with Razaaq and Stokes and all this being really serious.

This Panda guy is not made for international cricket... He will not even play 50 ODI's for India.
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Let me tell you how Pandya bats. At this point his ODI average is 60 @ S/R 129.

In comparison Razaaq ended his career with an ODI average of 29.70 @ S/R of 81.25.

You are right in a way though, there is no comparison between Pandya and Razaaq. Pandya is far ahead as a batsman.
 
Mobashir said:
Love this forum... Comparaisons with Razaaq and Stokes and all this being really serious.

This Panda guy is not made for international cricket... He will not even play 50 ODI's for India. Incredible how every poster blindly follows each other here without even looking at how the guy bats or ball.
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Seen him.. he is talented, is in the right team with level headed seniors to guide.

In his first practice match he was below average for his bowling. Very soon he realized that he needed to adjust his bowling length in England.

The result is for all to see
 
Napa said:
Let me tell you how Pandya bats. At this point his ODI average is 60 @ S/R 129.

In comparison Razaaq ended his career with an ODI average of 29.70 @ S/R of 81.25.

You are right in a way though, there is no comparison between Pandya and Razaaq. Pandya is far ahead as a batsman.
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Make Razzaq play in 2017 where 300 is par score for a ODI
 
Sane.Cricket.Fan said:
Make Razzaq play in 2017 where 300 is par score for a ODI
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So "par scores" have increased from 250 to 300, that is 20%. It only makes 29.7 increase to 35.7, still a long way behind 60.

Besides, Razaaq would probably get hammered by the improved bowling.
 
If fame doesnt get better of him and he works hard like Virat then why not. He got all the raw materials and opportunity to be one.
 
Hardik looks to me a confidence player . If he feels confident about himself, he will do well. However I do hope that he doesnt think too big about himself and always works on his game. I don't want him to go the Irfan Pathan way for the sake of Indian cricket. We so desperately need him to do well.

Virat when he entered the game was temperamentally like Hardik. I hope he takes this young fellow under him and gives him the right guidance. A performing Hardik would be such a great asset when India travel overseas (including the longest format)
 
Freelance bhai as usual with his great cricketing acumen, spotting the real talent way before others jumped on the bandwagon

#RespectFreelanceBhai
 
Mobashir said:
Love this forum... Comparaisons with Razaaq and Stokes and all this being really serious.

This Panda guy is not made for international cricket... He will not even play 50 ODI's for India. Incredible how every poster blindly follows each other here without even looking at how the guy bats or ball.
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absolutely. This guy looks like some version of yusuf pathan. will be surprised. if he plays 20 ODIs. He may play lot of T20s
 
Just happy to see Bharat overflowing with incredible talent. Jaddu, Pandaya, Krunal, Ashwin.. the list just never ends. :bow:
 
ToeCrusher2 said:
Freelance bhai as usual with his great cricketing acumen, spotting the real talent way before others jumped on the bandwagon

#RespectFreelanceBhai
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You're welcome.

Attitude and hard work is sure shot recipe for success. Pandya right from the moment he stepped in the field showed he meant business with whatever limited talent he possesses. He's the sort of guy who maximizes his ability and you can never go wrong with such people.
 
Has shown good potential so far. But, it is too early to start cooking biryani & inviting everyone for the party. Better judgement can be reserved only after 2/3 years when he is firmly established. After watching Irfan Pathan's career, I simply don't get excited by merely performances in 1/2 matches.
 
ab041937 said:
Has shown good potential so far. But, it is too early to start cooking biryani & inviting everyone for the party. Better judgement can be reserved only after 2/3 years when he is firmly established. After watching Irfan Pathan's career, I simply don't get excited by merely performances in 1/2 matches.
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At least Irfan Pathan actually performed well over some series.
But what did Pandya do? Bowled tight overs to Azhar Ali and Mohammad Hafeez?
 
Hardik Pandya could go down as one of the most accomplished Indian cricketer ever - Virat Kohli



"He's played a few good innings in the first-class circuit as well, really seeing off the new ball in testing conditions. So it's really hard to find people with that kind of ability. Once you have a player like that, you need to make sure that he's always committed, always motivated to give 100 percent for the team. That comes naturally to Hardik. So you don't need to motivate him any further in any other way.





"As I said, he's a real asset for Indian cricket, and people should appreciate his skill and what he brings to the table. A lot of people focus on a lot of other things with Hardik, which I don't think should be anyone else's problem. He has his own journey, and he's finding his own way. If he gets the kind of support that a player like him should get, I think he could go down as one of the most accomplished Indian cricketers in times to come. Because he's a fit guy. He's superb in the field, superb with the ball, brilliant with the bat. So as I said, very hard to find a guy like that, and the kind of balance he brings to the team is priceless. That was on display the other day," Kohli went on to add.
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Even Kohli can see greatness in pandya :kohli2
 
Mobashir said:
Love this forum... Comparaisons with Razaaq and Stokes and all this being really serious.

This Panda guy is not made for international cricket... He will not even play 50 ODI's for India. Incredible how every poster blindly follows each other here without even looking at how the guy bats or ball.
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He is one of those players who will perform many times than his capabilities. Just like MSD. A very confident player. Backs his abilities and tries to improve. He is being nurtured nicely by Indian team.
 
Mobashir said:
At least Irfan Pathan actually performed well over some series.
But what did Pandya do? Bowled tight overs to Azhar Ali and Mohammad Hafeez?
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Bhai tu match dekhta hai?

http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-new-zealand-2016-17/engine/match/1030219.html
http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-england-2016-17/engine/match/1034819.html
http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-england-2016-17/engine/match/1034823.html

These are the same teams who tonk Pakistani bowlers all around the park.
 
Brah what are you on? KP? You comparing this raw, unfinished product who will most likely not even be close to KP's talent, and you are saying he will be like KP. Come on mate!

Bravo/Russel/Shakib These are some players you could compare his allrounding ability to but KP bro ... LOL.
 
light said:
Brah what are you on? KP? You comparing this raw, unfinished product who will most likely not even be close to KP's talent, and you are saying he will be like KP. Come on mate!

Bravo/Russel/Shakib These are some players you could compare his allrounding ability to but KP bro ... LOL.
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I think Kieron Pollard is being referred to.
 
Zak_Fan said:
Just happy to see Bharat overflowing with incredible talent. Jaddu, Pandaya, Krunal, Ashwin.. the list just never ends. :bow:
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Bumrah, KL. The cup overflows.

Jadeja, Rohit, Virat, Shikhar are present generation. The new one also looks real good.
 
Mobashir said:
At least Irfan Pathan actually performed well over some series.
But what did Pandya do? Bowled tight overs to Azhar Ali and Mohammad Hafeez?
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He bowled beautifully in Australia. Educate yourself.
 
His batting is fluke though some shots looks effortless bowling is just rubbish
 
ToeCrusher2 said:
Hardik Pandya could go down as one of the most accomplished Indian cricketer ever - Virat Kohli






Even Kohli can see greatness in pandya :kohli2
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Big words from Kohli and mind you a hard worker is shy of over praising people for nothing. A hard worker only appreciates people with similar work ethic. Kohli certainly sees this.

Pandya has superstar written all over him.
 
Hardik Pandya will be exposed big time after this season. Right now no one is taking him seriously and he's enjoying without any pressure. Once teams take notice, he will be in trouble.
 
Please guys. Shak is #1 by far. Class is permanent. I rate Shak 5th of alltime amongst allrounders.
 
Nope, Shakib and Ben Stokes are World's best all rounders and will remain for some time.
 
This is why I don't rate his bowling. Just too easy to hit. Look at Bumrah at the other end bowling heavy balls at good length or slightly short of that. Much harder to score off.
 
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