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Hashim Amla becomes the second-fastest to 8,000 ODI runs [Update Post #81]

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Record is 175 innings by Virat Kohli.

Hashim Amla currently has 7,421 runs from 158 innings. :amla
 
He made the most of couple of odis against bangladesh...scored 2 100s...that helped him in this regard.
 
He made the most of couple of odis against bangladesh...scored 2 100s...that helped him in this regard.

Amla is going through a rough patch. He might never return to his previous best. That doesn't mean he has scored only against feeble oppositions. The guy used to be a beast.
 
Amla is one of the true greats but this year will be a tough one. He is either out of form (which can be recovered) or he is reaching the end of his career because it really has been tough going for him. Let's wait and see.
 
Amla's stature as a Test batsman is unquestionable.

But these must be the most useless 8000 runs scored in the history of ODI cricket along with Kallis and Dravid (to a certain extent). In Dravid's case you can at least recall a few important partnerships he was involved in with Yuvraj, Raina and Ganguly.
 
Most misleading stats in ODI cricket. I would take Jayasuriya over Amla as an opener anyday. Amla lacks impact
 
Amla's stature as a Test batsman is unquestionable.

But these must be the most useless 8000 runs scored in the history of ODI cricket along with Kallis and Dravid (to a certain extent). In Dravid's case you can at least recall a few important partnerships he was involved in with Yuvraj, Raina and Ganguly.

Dravid is a highly underrated ODI player. In fact he was the most effective partnership builder for years. People forget that Inzi who is ATG ODI player had a very similar strike rate to Dravid!

Also anyone who thinks that Amla is not a ODI ATG needs to get their heads checked.
 
Nowadays he looks out of sorts in this format

Won't do much in the next WC
 
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Amla's stature as a Test batsman is unquestionable.

But these must be the most useless 8000 runs scored in the history of ODI cricket along with Kallis and Dravid (to a certain extent). In Dravid's case you can at least recall a few important partnerships he was involved in with Yuvraj, Raina and Ganguly.

Amla made the runs for his own team. He didn't auction them off to other teams or anything. A majority of those runs i imagine helped his team to win the games, so nothing useless about them.
 
Should retire from odis and let Klaseen open with de Kock giving up gloves to him. Faf, AB, JP, Miller, Morris, Phehlukwayo.
 
The current series and the next one may make this landmark tough to reach so RSA must arrange some ZIM or WI tour after that to let Amla take the honours :uakmal :afridi :yk
 
He's been a legendary ODI opener for the better part of a decade but his reflexes have slowed and he isn't seeing them like he used to. Will comfortably become the fastest to 8000 ODI runs and break yet another world record but don't think he'll get to 9000.

At this point he has nothing left to prove in bilateral series, his last frontier is the 2019 WC. Same can be said of the other two ODI behemoths, AB de Villiers and Virat Kohli.
 
He's been a legendary ODI opener for the better part of a decade but his reflexes have slowed and he isn't seeing them like he used to. Will comfortably become the fastest to 8000 ODI runs and break yet another world record but don't think he'll get to 9000.

At this point he has nothing left to prove in bilateral series, his last frontier is the 2019 WC. Same can be said of the other two ODI behemoths, AB de Villiers and Virat Kohli.

one of them has a WC medal
 
Have said this earlier - don't enjoy putting down Amla because he is one fo the most decent guys to play modern cricket.

But his knock in the 5th ODI pretty much sums up his 8000 ODI runs. At no stage did he look capable of dragging SA over the line unless someone else took charge. Which is why I referred to his runs as useless earlier here
 
Have said this earlier - don't enjoy putting down Amla because he is one fo the most decent guys to play modern cricket.

But his knock in the 5th ODI pretty much sums up his 8000 ODI runs. At no stage did he look capable of dragging SA over the line unless someone else took charge. Which is why I referred to his runs as useless earlier here

Actually this was a good inning. Different from the Amla of odis we know. He was playing well today. Got run out unfortunately.
 
Have said this earlier - don't enjoy putting down Amla because he is one fo the most decent guys to play modern cricket.

But his knock in the 5th ODI pretty much sums up his 8000 ODI runs. At no stage did he look capable of dragging SA over the line unless someone else took charge. Which is why I referred to his runs as useless earlier here

An absurd statement. Amla made 71 runs in the match. No one else, barring Rohit Sharma, made more than 36. If anyone was going to get South Africa over the line before that harsh run-out decision, it was going to be Amla.

Even if one other batsman had gotten a fifty here and offered some support, Amla would have already won South Africa the match. If you're expecting him to score all 270 runs by himself, then I don't know what dimension you're from.
 
Breached the 7500 runs barrier now. He seems to have carried over his new technique into ODIs and it has helped compensate for his aging reflexes. Last ODI he was caught right on the boundary off a spinner and he was run-out in this match. The pacers haven't troubled him with the incoming delivery in the last two games.
 
If anyone was going to get South Africa over the line before that harsh run-out decision, it was going to be Amla.

The only person currently capable of getting SA over the line is Klaasen. He is the only one capable of lending any kind of indirect meaning to Amla's runs today.

Harsh :)) What was harsh about that decision?

An absurd statement
........then I don't know what dimension you're from.

Oh the irony coming from you.
 
The only person currently capable of getting SA over the line is Klaasen. He is the only one capable of lending any kind of indirect meaning to Amla's runs today.

Harsh :)) What was harsh about that decision?



Oh the irony coming from you.

Let me tell you something very simple:

Score runs at a good RR and you'll have done your part in getting your team over the line.

Amla did that today, like he's done that many, many times in the past. Neither Klaasen nor Kohli not Viv Richards can score all the runs on their own.
 
Let me tell you something very simple:

Score runs at a good RR and you'll have done your part in getting your team over the line.

Amla did that today, like he's done that many, many times in the past. Neither Klaasen nor Kohli not Viv Richards can score all the runs on their own.

It is one aspect to support a player .

And it is another aspect when you goto outrageous comparison in order to achieve that.

Kohli has done it times and times again.

On what earth 71(92) is a good SR?

I have maintained this .... Amla has made soft runs throughout his career.

That's why he will always be a statistical genius who has failed to make an impact in any odi that he has played.

Amla isn't mentally tough enough. The moment pressure comes in, he goes back to pavilion.
 
Let me tell you something very simple:
Yes Sir, tell me

Score runs at a good RR and you'll have done your part in getting your team over the line.

:( You really got my hopes up this time. But you struck gold again.

The required rate was 5.5 and Amla scored at a little over 4.6. I agree with the following though:

Amla did that today, like he's done that many, many times in the past.
 
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As an opposition fan I never feel threatened by his presence. He is like Dravid in. ODIs . He depends on other batsmen to make his contribution look good.
 
Yes Sir, tell me



:( You really got my hopes up this time. But you struck gold again.

The required rate was 5.5 and Amla scored at a little over 4.6. I agree with the following though:

Once again, an absurd way of looking at things. He kept South Africa in the run-chase right up until he was run-out. The RR could have easily been made up later, what South Africa needed were wickets in the bank.


It is one aspect to support a player .

And it is another aspect when you goto outrageous comparison in order to achieve that.

Kohli has done it times and times again.

On what earth 71(92) is a good SR?

I have maintained this .... Amla has made soft runs throughout his career.

That's why he will always be a statistical genius who has failed to make an impact in any odi that he has played.

Amla isn't mentally tough enough. The moment pressure comes in, he goes back to pavilion.

Kohli has done it "time and time again"? Please do provide a single example of Kohli scoring all the runs for his team and winning them the match. Just one. When you realize that your comment was garbage, try to find an example of Kohli scoring 80% of the runs of his team.

Funny how you have a problem with statistics but judge an innings solely on the numbers. Amla kept South Africa in the game, while everyone else, including ABD kept dropping like flies. The moment someone stuck with him, such as during his partnerships with Markram and Klaasen, South Africa were looking good to chase it down.

Amla has scored match-winning runs time and time again throughout his career. There is a reason he has 24 hundreds in won matches out of a total of 26.

Of course, can't expect Kohli fans to be anything but sour about him seeing how he's on course to breaking yet another Kohli record. :amla
 
As an opposition fan I never feel threatened by his presence. He is like Dravid in. ODIs . He depends on other batsmen to make his contribution look good.

:))) He's lightyears ahead of Dravid in ODIs. You guys really know how to hype your batsmen though. Amla is comfortably a better batsman than any Indian in ODIs, except for Sachin and Kohli.
 
Amla is great batsman, every batsman has flaws if we manipulate stats, He is good in what he does. One of the best opener of last 20 years.
 
Once again, an absurd way of looking at things. He kept South Africa in the run-chase right up until he was run-out. The RR could have easily been made up later, what South Africa needed were wickets in the bank.




Kohli has done it "time and time again"? Please do provide a single example of Kohli scoring all the runs for his team and winning them the match. Just one. When you realize that your comment was garbage, try to find an example of Kohli scoring 80% of the runs of his team.

Funny how you have a problem with statistics but judge an innings solely on the numbers. Amla kept South Africa in the game, while everyone else, including ABD kept dropping like flies. The moment someone stuck with him, such as during his partnerships with Markram and Klaasen, South Africa were looking good to chase it down.

Amla has scored match-winning runs time and time again throughout his career. There is a reason he has 24 hundreds in won matches out of a total of 26.

Of course, can't expect Kohli fans to be anything but sour about him seeing how he's on course to breaking yet another Kohli record. :amla

Amla can keep is fastest to 8k, 9k, 10k if he gets so far; as long as Amla doesn't help SA win at least 1 ICC tournament (WC / CT) all those records Will be of utter useless, ask any SA fan!
 
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^yeah yuvi and ganguly too but he is better than sehwag. Sehwag is underachiever in loi.
 
He's been a legendary ODI opener for the better part of a decade but his reflexes have slowed and he isn't seeing them like he used to. Will comfortably become the fastest to 8000 ODI runs and break yet another world record but don't think he'll get to 9000.

At this point he has nothing left to prove in bilateral series, his last frontier is the 2019 WC. Same can be said of the other two ODI behemoths, AB de Villiers and Virat Kohli.

Virat Kohli was part of 2011 WC winning playing 11and also main contributor of 2013 CT win. Amla and ABD have none!
 
Virat Kohli was part of 2011 WC winning playing 11and also main contributor of 2013 CT win. Amla and ABD have none!

Lol, my grandmother could be part of that Indian tean playing in India and would get a winner's medal. What did he actually do in that tournament? Failed at the most crucial stages just like he failed in the semis of the 2015 WC or the finals of the 2017 CT.

His 40-odd in 2013 came in a 20 overs game.

Amla can keep is fastest to 8k, 9k, 10k if he gets so far; as long as Amla doesn't help SA win at least 1 ICC tournament (WC / CT) all those records Will be of utter useless, ask any SA fan!

Not useless but it would be a shame. That is why I said that the only thing he has left to prove is how he performs in WCs. Same with Kohli and to an extent, ABD.

[MENTION=129948]Bilal7[/MENTION] Amla is no better than dhoni in loi.

Dhoni is an incredible finisher and in my all-time ODI XI but you can't compare him with a top order batsman. They have different roles and different yardsticks by which to judge them.
 
Lol, my grandmother could be part of that Indian tean playing in India and would get a winner's medal. What did he actually do in that tournament? Failed at the most crucial stages just like he failed in the semis of the 2015 WC or the finals of the 2017 CT.

His 40-odd in 2013 came in a 20 overs game.



Not useless but it would be a shame. That is why I said that the only thing he has left to prove is how he performs in WCs. Same with Kohli and to an extent, ABD.



Dhoni is an incredible finisher and in my all-time ODI XI but you can't compare him with a top order batsman. They have different roles and different yardsticks by which to judge them.

Let's see all 3 will be playing next WC ..You will get answer :kohli2
 
Lol, my grandmother could be part of that Indian tean playing in India and would get a winner's medal. What did he actually do in that tournament? Failed at the most crucial stages just like he failed in the semis of the 2015 WC or the finals of the 2017 CT.

His 40-odd in 2013 came in a 20 overs game.



Not useless but it would be a shame. That is why I said that the only thing he has left to prove is how he performs in WCs. Same with Kohli and to an extent, ABD.



Dhoni is an incredible finisher and in my all-time ODI XI but you can't compare him with a top order batsman. They have different roles and different yardsticks by which to judge them.

Hope Eng wins next WC easily as it will be their home grounds , like you said your grandmother also can win at home !
 
Most pointless 8000 runs in the history of cricket lol....anyway no one rated Amla in Odis except a few on this forum
 
Hope Eng wins next WC easily as it will be their home grounds , like you said your grandmother also can win at home !

Stop taking everything so personally. The 2011 iteration of India was a fantastic ODI team with the likes of Sehwag, Sachin, Yuvraj, Raina, Zaheer, and Dhoni all playing together. They were obviously the favourites when playing a tournament in home conditions.

England are not as accomplished a team.

Let's see all 3 will be playing next WC ..You will get answer :kohli2

Should be a great contest.
 
Stop taking everything so personally. The 2011 iteration of India was a fantastic ODI team with the likes of Sehwag, Sachin, Yuvraj, Raina, Zaheer, and Dhoni all playing together. They were obviously the favourites when playing a tournament in home conditions.

England are not as accomplished a team.



Should be a great contest.


Bro serious question...why do you like Amla?

He is very fidgety at the crease...doesn’t look very assured....is not a big hitting exciting player....is not from Pakistan, infact has Indian ethnicity....not a match winner

Why so much love for Amla???
 
A decent ODI batsman - nothing more, nothing less. Could have been a great one if he did not have the spine of a jelly.

Never was and never will be anywhere close to Kohli, regardless of how many times he breaks the 'fast to x number of runs' record.
 
Stop taking everything so personally. The 2011 iteration of India was a fantastic ODI team with the likes of Sehwag, Sachin, Yuvraj, Raina, Zaheer, and Dhoni all playing together. They were obviously the favourites when playing a tournament in home conditions.

England are not as accomplished a team.



Should be a great contest.

I just quoted you brother why so serious :quote:
 
Bro serious question...why do you like Amla?

He is very fidgety at the crease...doesn’t look very assured....is not a big hitting exciting player....is not from Pakistan, infact has Indian ethnicity....not a match winner

Why so much love for Amla???

He's a fantastic batsman. What isn't there to like about him? Ethnicity matters very little to me. I'd take Amla over any Pakistani batsman in a heartbeat.

Legendary in tests, great in ODIs. 54 centuries across formats, runs all over the world, ranked #1 in both formats with 900 ratings points in both and now has become a world class IT20 batsman. He's an ATG.
 
A decent ODI batsman - nothing more, nothing less. Could have been a great one if he did not have the spine of a jelly.

Never was and never will be anywhere close to Kohli, regardless of how many times he breaks the 'fast to x number of runs' record.

Even you will agree he's more than "decent". Unless you also agree that Pakistan has never had a "decent" ODI batsman ever.
 
:))) He's lightyears ahead of Dravid in ODIs. You guys really know how to hype your batsmen though. Amla is comfortably a better batsman than any Indian in ODIs, except for Sachin and Kohli.

Dravid was involved in two triple century partnership . Is Amla involved lol Anywho you are missing the point about how unthreatening this guy is.
 
Even you will agree he's more than "decent". Unless you also agree that Pakistan has never had a "decent" ODI batsman ever.

He is not a better ODI batsman than Zaheer, Javed, Saeed and Miandad.

He is on par with MoYo. The two share a lot of similarities, and not just appearance-wise. Prolific, elegant run machines with no guts.
 
He is not a better ODI batsman than Zaheer, Javed, Saeed and Miandad.

He is on par with MoYo. The two share a lot of similarities, and not just appearance-wise. Prolific, elegant run machines with no guts.

and Inzamam*
 
Bilal loves Indian batsmen as long as they play for other country :) His game clearly modeled on Indian batting style. He just inherited the choking part from SA lol
 
He kept South Africa in the run-chase right up until he was run-out. The RR could have easily been made up later, what South Africa needed were wickets in the bank.

And who was gonna make up this run-rate. Certainly not Amla. So if someone else has to lend meaning and relevance to his runs, what does that make his runs?

Useless.

:))) He's lightyears ahead of Dravid in ODIs.

I used to think Dravid and Kallis were among the most useless ODI batsmen with giant runs. Until I saw Amla.

But I'd take Dravid over Amla if I had to, because Dravid has shown spine multiple times in pressure games while supporting a superior ODI player at the other end, be it Ganguly, Yuvraj or Raina.
 
And who was gonna make up this run-rate. Certainly not Amla. So if someone else has to lend meaning and relevance to his runs, what does that make his runs?

Useless.



I used to think Dravid and Kallis were among the most useless ODI batsmen with giant runs. Until I saw Amla.

But I'd take Dravid over Amla if I had to, because Dravid has shown spine multiple times in pressure games while supporting a superior ODI player at the other end, be it Ganguly, Yuvraj or Raina.

Very well put.
 
Amla is like a cult.

Few will rate him regardless how useless his performance is in odis.

Rest of the world rates him for what he does actually perform.
 
He was great at one time but these days his performance has dropped to a whole new level.


Will be fun seeing him against Australia 3 fast bowlers
 
Hashim Amla is not even 50% the player he was few years ago and its time to accept that.
 
Tally of runs is fine, but familiar story with Hashim.

WI has been a garbage team for most of his career and he has inflated his average by bashing WI.

His average against the top 7 is 44.

Yes, AB, Kohli,Dhoni etc have bashed WI as well, but AB averages 52 and Kohli averages 55 against the top 7.
 
People should appreciate that despite being dubbed as "Test specialist" he turned out to be very good batsmen in LOIs.Amla might be one dimensional but atleast he is consistent in LOIs and still miles ahead of other one dimensional batsmen like Rahane,Azhar and Pujara(judging by couple of his odi & ipl matches).

Amla's career SR & AVG is still better than R Sharma(One of the most destructive batsmen that I've ever seen).Playing couple of years in the Ipl at the early part of his career Could've improved his Limited overs game like it did to AB devilliers.
 
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And who was gonna make up this run-rate. Certainly not Amla. So if someone else has to lend meaning and relevance to his runs, what does that make his runs?

Useless.



I used to think Dravid and Kallis were among the most useless ODI batsmen with giant runs. Until I saw Amla.

But I'd take Dravid over Amla if I had to, because Dravid has shown spine multiple times in pressure games while supporting a superior ODI player at the other end, be it Ganguly, Yuvraj or Raina.

Yes, and Kohli needed Rahane in order to set a good platform in the first ODI so what does that make his runs?

Pretty darn good and so is the case with Amla's runs in the fifth ODI. The only Useless runs were by some of the other top-six South African batsmen who did not contribute anything to the team total. That and your logic.

Yes, of course you would. Good for you.

Tally of runs is fine, but familiar story with Hashim.

WI has been a garbage team for most of his career and he has inflated his average by bashing WI.

His average against the top 7 is 44.

Yes, AB, Kohli,Dhoni etc have bashed WI as well, but AB averages 52 and Kohli averages 55 against the top 7.

Neither Kohli, not ABD are top order batsmen. In Kohli's case, he has an unnatural number of not-outs to boost that average even more.

Sachin Tendulker's career average is 44, forget about average against the top seven. 44-45 against the best teams is absolutely legendary in ODIs for an opening batsman.
 
He is not a better ODI batsman than Zaheer, Javed, Saeed and Miandad.

He is on par with MoYo. The two share a lot of similarities, and not just appearance-wise. Prolific, elegant run machines with no guts.

As much as I respect all those guys, none of them are in Amla's league, barring Zaheer but unfortunately he did not play enough. Saeed Anwar was a fine batsman but his overseas average is well, average. Javed and Inzamam were mentally very tough but do not match the sheer run-scoring prowess of Amla.
 
As much as I respect all those guys, none of them are in Amla's league, barring Zaheer but unfortunately he did not play enough. Saeed Anwar was a fine batsman but his overseas average is well, average. Javed and Inzamam were mentally very tough but do not match the sheer run-scoring prowess of Amla.

Javed would have been averaging 50+ in the era Amla played and Inzy also would be averaging close to 47-48 in the same era.
 
Sachin Tendulker's career average is 44, forget about average against the top seven. 44-45 against the best teams is absolutely legendary in ODIs for an opening batsman.

SRT debuted in 1989

Amla debuted in 2008 ( that's 19 years later)

Here are all openers from 2008 against the top 7,

amala legendary.jpg

Why will be Amla's performance legendary here?

Let's not compare SRT and Amla. Even in his last few years SRT was averaging 49 with SR of 90+ against the top 7. Let's not use his career average to make Amla a legendary ODI batsman. His career average is by product of debuting in 1989 and also playing at lower positions for the first 4-5 years.

There is nothing legendary about averaging 44 with SR of 85 in 2008-2018 for an opener. It's not a bad performance. It's a very good performance, but not legendary. It would have been legendary if some one had the same SR and average in earlier era in ODI.
 
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Rohit Sharma wipes the floor with Amla as an ODI opener. Truly an ODI giant in the making.
 
Well if Halwas are served to him then he will get there quick!
 
Amla is one of the great South African players, not an impact player. ABD and Kohli comfortably ahead of him
 
Rohit Sharma wipes the floor with Amla as an ODI opener. Truly an ODI giant in the making.

I'll agree here. Rohit is 100 times more dangerous as an ODI batsman. Any opposition fan will say it. In fact he is much more dangerous than Kohli in death overs.
 
Last few years Sharma’s overtaken pretty much every great ODI opener except Sachin.
 
Stats as opener (Min 4000 runs, Sorted by Avg)

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Only two batsman in history of odi cricket has achieved 50+ avg after scoring 5k+ runs. Rohit is yet in peak but when he is past peak even his avg might fall. Amla might not be impactful but surely very very good odi player of modern era.
 
Amla should get there though and that would be the last landmark record for him. Kohli’s taken his game to another level post joining 8000 runs club while Amla’s best days are well past him.
 
Stats as opener (Min 4000 runs, Sorted by Avg)

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Only two batsman in history of odi cricket has achieved 50+ avg after scoring 5k+ runs. Rohit is yet in peak but when he is past peak even his avg might fall. Amla might not be impactful but surely very very good odi player of modern era.

Peak or not peak both Sharma and Amla are beasts.

Haters have problem with each of them for different reasons. For example: the fact that Amla is respected by Pak/PP annoys a lot of haters. Otoh, Sharma's talent triggers some.
 
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Rohit Sharma should be part of the top 5 club in 2-3 years.
 
Amla is more reliable, Rohit is (much) more destructive.

Last 4 years stats suggest Sharma is both reliable and destructive. He is by far the most dangerous and game changing batsman in the world today.
 
Last 4 years stats suggest Sharma is both reliable and destructive. He is by far the most dangerous and game changing batsman in the world today.

True, i think in last 4 years rohit has left amla pretty much behind in race. Amla has declined alot in last 4 years. Even Decock has been poor in last few years.

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Amla in last few years can be compared to dhawan in terms of stats but dhawan is clutch player in icc tournaments and is better than rohit & even kohli!.
 
Amla has great chance to finish his career on high. He will get like 10 matches and if he scores like 600 - 700 runs in this worldcup then he might finish at very top odi batsman to play cricket.
 
This has been the most useless streak of records from Amla.

King of bilaterals

Nobody in big games.
 
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