Honours even as Australia ends a rain-affected Day 1 of the 2nd Test at 187/3

[Rana]

Watchful Aussies still going at close to 3 per over

 

[castortroy]

Never see a pak bowling attack averaging under 130km

 

[AAli98]

Wasim Akram must be fuming in the com box watching this.

Why would he or any Pak fan be fuming we all know what the score line will be before a ball was bowled. Aus tours are watched behind the sofa & for comedy purposes like the parchi dropped catch just now !!

 

[Farabi]

2.5 degree swing on the offer. Yet to create more chances.

128 / 132 average speeds for hamza and shaheen respectivly haha

This is good enough pace.

Unless you’re Bumrah or Steyn, we don’t need gun barrel, erratic 140+. In 2018, Australia literally embarrassed that stuff from young Naseem, Musa and Shaheen all bowling 140+ but going for 5 RPO.

Australia is the place to control run scoring, wickets will come. Pakistan bowling really well here!!

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

Never see a pak bowling attack averaging under 130km

At this speed, this is club level bowling.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Why would he or any Pak fan be fuming we all know what the score line will be before a ball was bowled. Aus tours are watched behind the sofa & for comedy purposes like the parchi dropped catch just now !!

I am talking about drop in pace. But he has to understand in his era there were only two formats. ODIs and Tests. Nowadays with T20s, we see bowlers bowl 2 over spells at 145k and think they will continue to do so in longer format. It is very hard.

 

[Theo_14]

This is so depressing to watch.

Our bowling line-up has no aag, aura, aggression or personality.

Remember we use to have key players injured and we still had players like Tanvir Ahmed come in, swing both ways and take 5-6 wickets even if it was for few matches. Point is, depth was there.

 

[Rana]

Ball swinging but let’s just not make the openers play the ball

 

[Theo_14]

I am talking about drop in pace. But he has to understand in his era there were only two formats. ODIs and Tests. Nowadays with T20s, we see bowlers bowl 2 over spells at 145k and think they will continue to do so in longer format. It is very hard.

I think in modern era of cricket - pacy bowlers will preserve there pace early on in test games but also back of their mind, they know they have lucrative contracts lined up in leagues so they are more cautious to avoid injuries when playing for national sides in test. Furthermore, another point is, more games in calendar years means players will become more fragile. Especially, Pakistani players who have no clue about strength conditioning programmes and diet.

 

[Human786]

400+ on .

 

[Farabi]

This is so depressing to watch.

Our bowling line-up has no aag, aura, aggression or personality.

Remember we use to have key players injured and we still had players like Tanvir Ahmed come in, swing both ways and take 5-6 wickets even if it was for few matches. Point is, depth was there.

What world do people live in? lollll
The only aag I remember in Aus is 70 runs in 10 overs by Pakistani bowlers

The only not embarrassing performance by a Pakistani bowler this century was Mohd Asif who bowled 125 and completely deflated Aussies in Sydney. Rest has been a sorry story.

This, 26/0 in 11 overs is actually AWESOME!

 

[jnaveen1980]

I think in modern era of cricket - pacy bowlers will preserve there pace early on in test games but also back of their mind, they know they have lucrative contracts lined up in leagues so they are more cautious to avoid injuries when playing for national sides in test. Furthermore, another point is, more games in calendar years means players will become more fragile. Especially, Pakistani players who have no clue about strength conditioning programmes and diet.

it is an easy gig. Genuine quicks don't have a very long career. So they will try to make the most of it while they can.

 

[msb314]

Hassan Ali bowling peaches after peaches

 

[AAli98]

I am talking about drop in pace. But he has to understand in his era there were only two formats. ODIs and Tests. Nowadays with T20s, we see bowlers bowl 2 over spells at 145k and think they will continue to do so in longer format. It is very hard.

Akram & any fan who knws thir stuff know even if afridi & hamza bowled 145 clicks ain’t got the skill level to land 3/6 delivery’s on a good length.

 

[deltexas]

Horrendous slip catching by pak. The pak team was giving Christmas gifts to the Australian players the day before and looks like they are still in a gift giving mode! Man- warner is getting some great gifts in his final series

 

[Asad T]

This is good enough pace.

Unless you’re Bumrah or Steyn, we don’t need gun barrel, erratic 140+. In 2018, Australia literally embarrassed that stuff from young Naseem, Musa and Shaheen all bowling 140+ but going for 5 RPO.

Australia is the place to control run scoring, wickets will come. Pakistan bowling really well here!!

I think Wasim brought up a good point, that is, if you want to push Warner back into his crease, the bowlers should bowl the odd bouncer to him. But at 128 kph, they can't do that

 

[jnaveen1980]

What world do people live in? lollll
The only aag I remember in Aus is 70 runs in 10 overs by Pakistani bowlers

The only not embarrassing performance by a Pakistani bowler this century was Mohd Asif who bowled 125 and completely deflated Aussies in Sydney. Rest has been a sorry story.

This, 26/0 in 11 overs is actually AWESOME!

Given the assistance should have been more chances. As the ball gets older movement will be gone. Pakistan has no spinners to fall back on. It will be a toil.

 

[160KPH]

Surprised at how good Hasan Ali is bowling

 

[deltexas]

Also such boring pathetic commentary by wasim akram. Most SC commentators are so boring and cringey. He just repeats stats and the scorecard...

 

[jnaveen1980]

Rizwan stands too far back for this pace. He almost took it on the second bounce.

 

[castortroy]

Also such boring pathetic commentary by wasim akram. Most SC commentators are so boring and cringey. He just repeats stats and the scorecard...

Akram is definitely one of the worst pak commentators

 

[jnaveen1980]

Warner is laboriously constructing an innings. I think he is giving first hour to the bowlers by the look of it.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

Akram is definitely one of the worst pak commentators

Only Ramiz is tolerable. Wasim and Waqar are terrible.

 

[castortroy]

No chance this pak attack is getting 20 wickets here

 

[Rana]

Why does Imam paint his whole face white?

It reminds me of Jigsaw’s doll on the bicycle

 

[Farabi]

Given the assistance should have been more chances. As the ball gets older movement will be gone. Pakistan has no spinners to fall back on. It will be a toil.

This has nothing to do with pace. There just have been a lot of plays and misses. Some is luck, batter technique, while some is bowling line not being close enough

 

[Rana]

Rizwan stands too far back for this pace. He almost took it on the second bounce.

The greatest Pakistani ever for SENA conditions

Majid Khan of the modern era

 

[jnaveen1980]

This has nothing to do with pace. There just have been a lot of plays and misses. Some is luck, batter technique, while some is bowling line not being close enough

That inswinger that Khawaja didn't pick up was all to do with pace. A yard quicker he would have crashed on to the pad. That was a good ball mind you.

 

[Theo_14]

What world do people live in? lollll
The only aag I remember in Aus is 70 runs in 10 overs by Pakistani bowlers

The only not embarrassing performance by a Pakistani bowler this century was Mohd Asif who bowled 125 and completely deflated Aussies in Sydney. Rest has been a sorry story.

This, 26/0 in 11 overs is actually AWESOME!

The difference here is you are referring to AAG in Australia, my post refers to our attack in general ever since the decline started in 2011.

If 26/0 in 11 overs is awesome for you; it’s clear your expectations are lower than the usual. With the ball swinging both ways, you need to capitalise and take 2-3 wickets early on esp against Australia.

 

[castortroy]

Only Ramiz is tolerable. Wasim and Waqar are terrible.

Prefer Waqar to Wasim but he is bad also

 

[Farabi]

I think Wasim brought up a good point, that is, if you want to push Warner back into his crease, the bowlers should bowl the odd bouncer to him. But at 128 kph, they can't do that

Who said you can’t bowl bouncers at 130? Asif bowled bouncers all the time. With bouncers, again it’s more about accuracy and surprise factor.

 

[castortroy]

Serious question, would any of these bowlers get into any of the Sheffield shield teams?

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

Prefer Waqar to Wasim but he is bad also

Waqar shouting in broken english is like nails on a chalkboard.

 

[Theo_14]

This is great batting by Australia. No silly shots. Showing experience, resilience and composure.

Clearly adopted a different strategy - just carefully navigating the ball.

Once the swing goes - Australia will shift gears.

 

[Farabi]

The difference here is you are referring to AAG in Australia, my post refers to our attack in general ever since the decline started in 2011.

If 26/0 in 11 overs is awesome for you; it’s clear your expectations are lower than the usual. With the ball swinging both ways, you need to capitalise and take 2-3 wickets early on esp against Australia.

What did Pakistan bowling achieve in Aus before 2011? It was massacre as always

 

[stani_pak]

That dropped catch will prove to be costly, i feels Warner will score a daddy 100 from here on end

 

[Nasty Naz]

Bowlers keep beating their batsmen but they are find ways to avoid a nick. This is why when you get a chance to actually take a chance, it is crucial you do, especially when they are easy lollipop catches. Match could have changed with a new batsmen coming in early with the ball swinging and perhaps that batsmen nicks one but here we are. Australia now looking well positioned to demolish Pakistan.

 

[Blistering Barnacle]

The bowlers just can't bowl consistently. A good ball followed by a wide, followed by one down the legside.

 

[deltexas]

Only Ramiz is tolerable. Wasim and Waqar are terrible.

Ramiz is certainly the best commentator from pak. Any day. He is interesting and certainly not boring. Wasim and waqar put you to sleep. Wasim waqar DK & Anjum were/are the worst commentators

 

[Theo_14]

What did Pakistan bowling achieve in Aus before 2011? It was massacre as always

Produced early wickets, produced consistent swing, produced variations of spin, produced capability to take 10 wickets as a unit, we had bowlers bowling at good speed ranges. We had depth.

We have declined in basic areas. If you don’t see that then you are delusional.

 

[Blistering Barnacle]

Commentator saying that Jamals's first ball after the drinks break is the worst possible type of ball to bowl to khawaja.

 

[castortroy]

What an absolute shambles of a bowling attack this is

 

[jnaveen1980]

Jamal is quick enough though for Tests. He is the fastest among this group.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Who is this WI bowler Kerry o keefe is talking about

 

[Farabi]

Produced early wickets, produced consistent swing, produced variations of spin, produced capability to take 10 wickets as a unit, we had bowlers bowling at good speed ranges. We had depth.

We have declined in basic areas. If you don’t see that then you are delusional.

Can you share an example of this in Australia specifically? When did Pakistan fast bowlers blow away Australia with pace and aggression in Australia? I remember embarrassment upon embarrassment from Waqar, Sami, to Shoib to Shaheen/Naseem/Musa recently.
The only performance i remember is none other than Mohd Asif with controlled swing bowling in the 120-130 range.

The other fast bowlers who have done well
In Aus are Wasim and Sarfaraz Nawaz. Again both weren’t express.

 

[Buffet]

Ball is doing so much, make them play around off stump.

 

[Firebat]

It feels like such a monumental struggle to take even 1 wicket.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Why do they keep talking about Haris Rauf like he is some kind of test legend.HE got battered all over by England at home. Does he have a good first class record?

 

[Blistering Barnacle]

Bowlers struggle to bowl 3 good balls in the right area, forget about 6 good balls.

 

[topspin]

118 kph from Mir Hamza.

It took Pakistan 10.3 overs to cross the 135k mark.

Depressing times.

 

[Buffet]

Bowlers struggle to bowl 3 good balls in the right area, forget about 6 good balls.

If they bowl around 4th stump line, Aus will lose wickets. Wasting the new ball when ball is doing so much.

 

[jnaveen1980]

This is the most relevant speed they should share not the release speed. Some guys lose more speed. Some less. Shaheen seems to lose a lot of speed after pitching compared to other bowlers in his side. Hope they show a comparison.

 

[imshally81]

So we already dropped one easy catch of Warner

 

[castortroy]

This was always going to be a car crash of a tour

I said from the beginning that pak would not get 20 wickets in any of the matches and none of the games would go into the 5th day unless the Aussies wanted it to

 

[Asad T]

This is shocking

https://x.com/i/web/status/1739447507745124745

 

[Caved12]

Hasan and Jamal are all over the place and have bowled 6 to 8 deliveries down on the leg side. Wth is going on with our pacers? I know we are bad, but this bad? It is not like they are trying to bowl fast where they have trouble controlling the line and length. At their speeds they should have a better control, but not sure if they are interested in playing this series. May be they all are saving themselves for the t20 series against NZ.

 

[AAli98]

What are Shastri & the snake Bhogle doing in Aus Pak matches on commentary. Thought they still be licking there wounds from the World Cup final humiliation yet where there voices wouldn’t come out !!

 

[jnaveen1980]

Told you Rizwan stands too far. Proves to be right.

 

[Buffet]

Keeper needs to stand up a bit. Pakistani bowlers are 125 KPH speed so no harm in standing up.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Keeper needs to stand up a bit. Pakistani bowlers are 125 KPH speed so no hard in standing up.

I called it 10 or 15 oversback. It was so obvious. He was taking a lot of balls on second bounce. But he continues stand where he is. It also affects where slip fielders stand.

 

[imshally81]

Told you Rizwan stands too far. Proves to be right.

First mistake from Rizwan

 

[jnaveen1980]

First mistake from Rizwan

So suggestion is "let it slide"

 

[imshally81]

128 kph....

 

[jnaveen1980]

Hamza is grimacing. Is he a long format bowler in domestic?

 

[Buffet]

120s KPH won't create many chances when ball stops moving. Needs to pick 2-3 now.

 

[jnaveen1980]

120s KPH won't create many chances when ball stops moving. Needs to pick 2-3 now.

Test match bowling fitness is shocking. They have to watch Australian bowling and learn. Look how relentless they can be. They owe it to their elite fitness.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

There is no intensity to this bowling. The pacers have no prescence. The weakest ever pace attack? I can't remember it being worse than this.

 

[batandballbattle]

Bowler's beehive, better than the first period of the first test but still no wicket.

 

[Theo_14]

Strong rumours circulating that Pakistani bowlers had a heavy desi Nashta hence the slow bowling.

 

[Buffet]

There is no intensity to this bowling. The pacers have no prescence. The weakest ever pace attack? I can't remember it being worse than this.

They are allowing Warner to stand so much outside. Well directed bouncer can hold him back, but some pace is needed. I don't think 120s KPH bouncers will work. It may actually work, but needs to be really on target.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Bowler's beehive, better than the first period of the first test but still no wicket.

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This pitch is a touch slower compared to Perth.

 

[jnaveen1980]

21st over. Pakistan has no spinner to use against Warner other than 'all rounder' Salman Agha.

 

[Blistering Barnacle]

Mir Hamza looks reasonably threatening, still getting some swing. Just needs to be more consistent - same as the other bowlers though.

 

[CerebralPatriot]

Don’t get why people are mad at Abdullah. It was a keepers catch.

Rizwan should have dived but instead he choose the cowardly route and made Abdullah the scapegoat

 

[jnaveen1980]

They are allowing Warner to stand so much outside. Well directed bouncer can hold him back, but some pace is needed. I don't think 120s KPH bouncers will work. It may actually work, but needs to be really on target.

They need to be a bit like Wagner atleast who whacked into the pitch at 130 to 135 kph speed and got rewarded at the MCG few years back. But that guy has crazy fitness though to do that.

 

[Buffet]

Just bowl in the same area 6 balls, ball is still moving.

 

[Theo_14]

Don’t get why people are mad at Abdullah. It was a keepers catch.

Rizwan should have dived but instead he choose the cowardly route and made Abdullah the scapegoat

I hope this is sarcasm…

 

[Rana]

Where was the superman dive by Rizwan? That was catchable!

 

[Rana]

Shaheen ran out of gas for this game

 

[Blistering Barnacle]

Just bowl in the same area 6 balls, ball is still moving.

Clearly they are incapable of that. Too much white ball cricket I guess. Shaheen keeps bowling down the legside, no different to his junior colleagues.