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Honours even as Australia ends a rain-affected Day 1 of the 2nd Test at 187/3

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Ian smith suggests Rizwan standin up lol That will be the ultlimate insult at the mCG for any fast bowler.
 
Blistering Barnacle said:
Clearly they are incapable of that. Too much white ball cricket I guess. Shaheen keeps bowling down the legside, no different to his junior colleagues.
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You are correct. No patience to keep it in the same area and make it hard for batsman. Also, Warner is just batting so much outside , needs to push him back.
 
Mir Hamza at 145kh would have been unplayable with the swing on offer.
 
487 all out at Perth was a terrific effort from the bowlers.

If Pakistan can get them all out below 500 again, it'll be another tremendous effort.
 
shariqnoor said:
Mir Hamza at 145kh would have been unplayable with the swing on offer.
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He can't bowl 6 balls in right spots with 120s KPH, why do you think he will bowl in right areas with higher pace.
 
Hafeez and Wahab need to be axed for the tripe they have selected on this tour
 
Buffet said:
He can't bowl 6 balls in right spots with 120s KPH, why do you think he will bowl in right areas with higher pace.
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A fast bowling unit has a leader and 1st level support bowlers and 2nd /3rd level. But Pakistan's unit is full of 2nd level 3rd level support bowlers. No leader, no first level.
 
Don’t know who is behind the call, but this MCG toss actually summarises PAK cricket in a nut shell. Putting every eggs in that sh!t basket called T20 has taken everything out of PAK cricket - first spin bowling, then batting, then pace bowling …. now even game sense.

Grew up in Australia at childhood and this is probably my 35th MCG Test - to my memory, this is among the better batting wickets at MCG that I can recall - yes, there is some grass & probably weather is a bit moist, but you don’t get a much better batting wicket at MCG than this on Boxing Day morning.

Yet, PAK opted to bowl first, even after the experience of first Test, only because of playing too many rubbish on absolute roads have taken every bit of game sense & courage out of that team, to the extent that they even don’t know what should be the game tactics to compete…. gifted back a golden opportunity to Australia. This wicket is going to get faster on day 2/3 and I’ll be quite surprised if Aussies don’t take a 100+ first innings lead by day two, if not a follow-on margin by Tea on day 3.
 
Lacking pace is fine.

But why are these bowlers unable to maintain a consistent line and length? Mir Hamza has so much first-class experience and can't even hold a tight line.
 
How much have Pakistan declined that we can’t even take ONE wicket anymore. Damn, this is hella depressing.
 
MMHS said:
Don’t know who is behind the call, but this MCG toss actually summarises PAK cricket in a nut shell. Putting every eggs in that sh!t basket called T20 has taken everything out of PAK cricket - first spin bowling, then batting, then pace bowling …. now even game sense.

Grew up in Australia at childhood and this is probably my 35th MCG Test - to my memory, this is among the better batting wickets at MCG that I can recall - yes, there is some grass & probably weather is a bit moist, but you don’t get a much better batting wicket at MCG than this on Boxing Day morning.

Yet, PAK opted to bowl first, even after the experience of first Test, only because of playing too many rubbish on absolute roads have taken every bit of game sense & courage out of that team, to the extent that they even don’t know what should be the game tactics to compete…. gifted back a golden opportunity to Australia. This wicket is going to get faster on day 2/3 and I’ll be quite surprised if Aussies don’t take a 100+ first innings lead by day two, if not a follow-on margin by Tea on day 3.
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Was a coward decision to bowl first. He knew Pak wouldn’t have crossed 90 had they batted first.
 
Why would you win toss and field?

Mind boggling decision.
 
this is embarrassing winning the toss and creating just one chance (should've been taken) and at luch they would be 90ish without a loss.
 
I think the decision to bowl first was a tactic to try and extend the test match because their is rain predicted.

If Pak batted first and got 60 all out the match would have ended in no time.
 
AAli98 said:
Was a coward decision to bowl first. He knew Pak wouldn’t have crossed 90 had they batted first.
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This happens when you put a mediocre specialist batsman as captain for a struggling team - he’ll use every excuse to protect his batting. Batting (or WK) Captain is not going to work for PAK, not in the longer two formats for sure. I’m sure had Babar or Riz been Captain, both would have bowled first as well. … and the logic would have been 4 pacers …..
 
Look at Warner. He is at complete ease. Standing outside his crease, moving as he likes. He is toying with pakistan bowlers. no energy no consistency from pakistan. Complete ass whooping coming up. Likely innings defeat. Australia won't have to bat twice this time.
 
26th over spinner is on. Ball is bouncing and bit of turn as well lol Pakistan has no specialist spinner. Insteda of 4 military medium pace bowlers.
 
MMHS said:
This happens when you put a mediocre specialist batsman as captain for a struggling team - he’ll use every excuse to protect his batting. Batting (or WK) Captain is not going to work for PAK, not in the longer two formats for sure. I’m sure had Babar or Riz been Captain, both would have bowled first as well. … and the logic would have been 4 pacers …..
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Misbah 2016 lords won toss could have taken the cowardly way & bowl 1st but batted Pak made 260 won the test.

Reason why his the best test captain.
 
A proper spinner could have been very handy here.
 
MMHS said:
Don’t know who is behind the call, but this MCG toss actually summarises PAK cricket in a nut shell. Putting every eggs in that sh!t basket called T20 has taken everything out of PAK cricket - first spin bowling, then batting, then pace bowling …. now even game sense.

Grew up in Australia at childhood and this is probably my 35th MCG Test - to my memory, this is among the better batting wickets at MCG that I can recall - yes, there is some grass & probably weather is a bit moist, but you don’t get a much better batting wicket at MCG than this on Boxing Day morning.

Yet, PAK opted to bowl first, even after the experience of first Test, only because of playing too many rubbish on absolute roads have taken every bit of game sense & courage out of that team, to the extent that they even don’t know what should be the game tactics to compete…. gifted back a golden opportunity to Australia. This wicket is going to get faster on day 2/3 and I’ll be quite surprised if Aussies don’t take a 100+ first innings lead by day two, if not a follow-on margin by Tea on day 3.
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Completely disagree.

You have to assess your own team first as well before making decisions.

There's a 2.6 degree swing that Pakistani pacers were getting with the new ball. Probably add another 0.5 degrees if the Aussies were bowling first with their skill set.

It's very easy to say that Pakistan needed to bat first. Given the state of Pakistan's batting, Pakistan would've lost the match on Day 1 itself. Pakistan is not equipped to handle 3 degree swing against the class of Starc, Hazlewood and Cummins. It's better to atleast stay in the game for as long as they can rather than be 70 all out on the first day.

Your comments would make sense had this been India or England who have the batting to cope with these swinging conditions. Pakistan have literally taileenders all the way through.
 
Win toss or lose. Bat first or bowl. It makes no difference there is a huge difference in quality. Pakistan with stronger teams have been pulverised.

What is inexcusable though is having someone su useless as Shan in the team.
 
27th over , first 140 KPH plus ball from Pakistan.
 
Shaheen is a another bowler that has turned into trash.

He had more pace in the last tour, he looks vinay kumar/Tanveer ahmed level in this series. Shame on PCB for ruining bowlers
 
Poor choice to bowl first. Poor catching. Now slow mediocre bowling.

Sigh just another day of Pak playing in Australia
 
Fast bowlers bowl really good opening spells, solid first change bowling and we got no wickets.

But somehow our part time spin bowler has picked up a wicket right before lunch!
 
I think Warner first time was stnading inside the crease and got confused with his stroke execution lol
 
This pitch will offer turn for sure. Lyon will be more than handy here. Pakistan has no second spinner here.
 
shariqnoor said:
Completely disagree.

You have to assess your own team first as well before making decisions.

There's a 2.6 degree swing that Pakistani pacers were getting with the new ball. Probably add another 0.5 degrees if the Aussies were bowling first with their skill set.

It's very easy to say that Pakistan needed to bat first. Given the state of Pakistan's batting, Pakistan would've lost the match on Day 1 itself. Pakistan is not equipped to handle 3 degree swing against the class of Starc, Hazlewood and Cummins. It's better to atleast stay in the game for as long as they can rather than be 70 all out on the first day.

Your comments would make sense had this been India or England who have the batting to cope with these swinging conditions. Pakistan have literally taileenders all the way through.
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PAK will score more on first innings than second - trust me. This is Australia & more importantly MCG - the best three days for batting here are probably Day 3, 4 & 1 - particularly if you can survive first morning without too much damage. Unless it’s a very special condition (which isn’t the case today), you don’t miss out the chance to bat first at MCG.

What you are saying shouldn’t be an excuse for a team into 8th decade of Test cricket. If they are afraid that they can’t survive two seasons of day 1 on a good MCG track, then better stop playing Test cricket.
 
Some random bloke online is saying day 3/4 and 1 is the best day to bat…

Mike Hussey says Day 2 is the best day to bat.

Not sure who to believe?
 
MMHS said:
PAK will score more on first innings than second - trust me. This is Australia & more importantly MCG - the best three days for batting here are probably Day 3, 4 & 1 - particularly if you can survive first morning without too much damage. Unless it’s a very special condition (which isn’t the case today), you don’t miss out the chance to bat first at MCG.

What you are saying shouldn’t be an excuse for a team into 8th decade of Test cricket. If they are afraid that they can’t survive two seasons of day 1 on a good MCG track, then better stop playing Test cricket.
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Pakistan will score more in the 1st innings because they will be batting 2nd. Had they chose to bat first, they would've been out for 70 and then would've scored more in the 2nd innings.

Cummins also realized this and that's why he at the toss also said that he wanted to bowl first. He knew he could've gotten this game wrapped up early on the 3rd day.

You are giving Pakistan too much leeway here that they can survive the onslaught of swing and seam of Cummins, Starc and Hazlewood. They cannot. Pakistan is a rubbish team. If you are going to judge them as if they are competent enough, then that's on you. I know their capabilities and that's why for them bowling first was a wise decision. It just simply allows them to stay in the game a bit longer. This still doesn't exclude them for being demolished even after batting 2nd
 
There is some rain expected. So it will freshen up the pitch. Now that Warner is gone Pakistan can feel relieved as others are not in great nick apart from Head.
 
For Cummins, it makes complete sense to bowl first so that they can reduce the game time & take out rain threat - on much better wickets, Lloyd often used to bowl first so that he could reduce one innings of the game. Waugh & Ponting used to do that as well often to make sure that there is a W/L result in the game, but hardly any team dared to put Aussies in - those few years it was almost given that Aussies will bowl first, regardless of the toss.

For PAK, it absolutely makes no sense to bowl first because unless they get Aussies out inside 200, max 250, will be chasing the game from there on. Batting first, even a total of 200 keeps them in game for three days at least. And, I see there is a bit of grip, it’ll be uneven as well, which will bring pacers in the game as well.

But yes, if you say from survival point, may be bowling first is a safe calm for PAK - but that was my first point as well….. team is mentally so timid that they can’t even dare to think of competing.

@shariqnoor
 
Still expecting Australia to score at a good run rate despite losing Warner who was batting slow for his standards anyways.
 
Wasim in his last game as an aging pacer was bowling 135+ KPH.

He must be cringing hard at these guys who are bowling slower in their prime.
 
Pakistan players are very quiet. You need a lot of chirping and chatting to keep your energy levels up as it can be taxing fielding on a playing field like this.
 
Just bowl in tight line for the next 5-6 overs. Ball is still moving.
 
Khawaja batting is one of the most boring thing to watch. Labu is also not an attractive player to watch even in good form. It is going to be a very slow passage until Head or Marsh come in.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Khawaja batting is one of the most boring thing to watch. Labu is also not an attractive player to watch even in good form. It is going to be a very slow passage until Head or Marsh come in.
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Yes, I woke up at 3AM to watch this, and with these two batting, I think I'll need to buy a couple of red bulls to keep up
 
Hassan is doing well in terms of accuracy. But he is a little slower than Mitchell Marsh.
 
2 down, just keep it tight now. Two best batsmen are gone. Others are not in great form except Head.
 
Asad T said:
Yes, I woke up at 3AM to watch this, and with these two batting, I think I'll need to buy a couple of red bulls to keep up
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3.30 is quite a decent rate at MCG, first day actually. The ground is so big and outfield is often slower - olden days when they didn’t use boundary ropes (you have to hit the wall for a boundary & send in crowd for a six), often fives were all ran!!! Adelaide & Perth are faster scoring grounds normally, followed by SCG & Gabba. At this rate they can teach 300+ by day end, which is excellent for MCG.
 
Hassan Ali looking good despite average speed of 131, got the big one of Khawaja

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Tentative Smith. He is also not in good form. Head is the only inform player. Warner is in form only against Pakistan.
 
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