How awkward will the dressing room be for emerging players after the recent remarks by Babar Azam?

[saeed5646]

I can only imagine what will be going through wasim and dhani when captain is publicly naming them and showing zero confidence in their ability

 

[saeed5646]

I fear babar doesn't throw these youngsters in deep sea to prove a point.

 

[Shaddy86]

It's not the sort of thing that hasn't happened in the past. The senior culture in the Pak dressing room has been much worse. This should motivate the youngsta beauties to show their worth.

 

[fasihulhaq94]

Doubt they will mind.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

Babar will probably ignore these guys and play people from his group.

I don't see guys like Dhani, Arshad Iqbal getting many games. Even Abdullah Shafiq, whom he adores, might get ignored.

Our youngsters are used to getting the harsh treatment untill they are stars in the PSL. So it won't matter that much.

 

[saeed5646]

Babar will probably ignore these guys and play people from his group.

I don't see guys like Dhani, Arshad Iqbal getting many games. Even Abdullah Shafiq, whom he adores, might get ignored.

Our youngsters are used to getting the harsh treatment untill they are stars in the PSL. So it won't matter that much.

Or like naseem shah poor outing send them to press conference to face the music

 

[UzmanBeast]

Many fail to understand that Babar isn't wrong in what he said.

The example of Naseem lies in front of us. A very good prospect, who needed to spend time in domestic to learn his trade, is now much worse than he was when he came.

Would you risk losing another good prospect in Mohammad Wasim Jr. or Shahnawaz Dhani? They need more time in the FC system. Same with Arshad.

All these young bowlers don't need international exposure right now.

Babar probably knows what's wrong with the team better than us, and the only reason he would criticise selections is if they don't fix a glaring issue. For one, there is no player named who will solve our weak middle order batting in T20Is, which was exposed against SAF. Nobody wants to talk about that, but we tried 3 players and all three produced failing results? Is that not a sign that we need to cut back on the experimentation and go with a proven player in Malik? Or will we wait until the night before the WC and draft him into the squad?

I don't know what Mohammad Wasim's issue is, but he needs to be more considerate about what the captain is saying.

 

[gazza619]

Babar needs to be a taught a lesson. I would warn him to not go in the media in future. Dont care how big an impact player he is. Its not as if he is winning us series after series or tournaments after tournaments.

In house matters need to remain in house.

 

[Babeikh]

Delighted Babar went public. As said in other thread, if the process had been more professional and consultative there would have been no need for Babar to go public.

In terms of the players - they can use it to motivate themselves and prove they are good enough or they can whine/whinge and feel sorry for themselves and Babar will be proven right.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Delighted Babar went public. As said in other thread, if the process had been more professional and consultative there would have been no need for Babar to go public.

In terms of the players - they can use it to motivate themselves and prove they are good enough or they can whine/whinge and feel sorry for themselves and Babar will be proven right.

these have been the ways of Pakistan cricket and PCB since the days of Bread being Sliced.

 

[Bewal Express]

I like Babar but this is Poor form. His job is to captain the team,not become a selector. His behaviour worries me going forward, he has become too big for his boots.

 

[SensiblePakFan]

They all respect Babar Azam, and wont read much into the hush hush whispers.

 

[Suleiman]

He says he doesn’t want to be a dummy captain but from his recent comments he sounds like a dummy.

 

[Shafi]

Babar wants to another Misbah surrounding by ttfs and oldies so he can the only superstar in the team.

 

[BreadPakoda]

Agree. Who wants to work under a boss who doesn’t even want you on the team?

 

[Savak]

I am worried that Babar wanted Wahab Riaz, Mohd Abbass, Shoaib Malik to be selected. When are we going to move forward?

 

[Darkrai]

Babar wants to another Misbah surrounding by ttfs and oldies so he can the only superstar in the team.

Needs more superstars like Naseem, Musa, Rauf, Asif, Ahsan, Haider, Abdullah, etc.

 

[Jabo]

no concern.

should make the new players wanna perform
& babar to

 

[Darkrai]

I am worried that Babar wanted Wahab Riaz, Mohd Abbass, Shoaib Malik to be selected. When are we going to move forward?

When once is a generational talent of Pakistan like Naseem, Musa, Haider, Abdullah, etc. start performing and not humiliate Pakistan by creating the worst bowling records in the history of the game and looking like club cricketers.

Idk maybe he wants the potential world-beating youngsters who are already in the team to perform before adding more lesser-hyped youngsters.

 

[b.lesner]

I knew something like this was going to happen because it was total mismatch Muhammad Wasim even at Northern used to play all out youngsters 90% and used to try all bench players before finals while Babar always says senior junior combination ( which in essence means TTFs like Malik and Wahab and those youngesters who are playing from past 4-5 years like Hasan, Shadab, Fahim and Shaheen etc) from the day he was made captain when he was made captain he asked for Shoaib and Hafeez against Bangladesh because he was afraid of loosing to them.

 

[Darkrai]

I knew something like this was going to happen because it was total mismatch Muhammad Wasim even at Northern used to play all out youngsters 90% and used to try all bench players before finals while Babar always says senior junior combination ( which in essence means TTFs like Malik and Wahab and those youngesters who are playing from past 4-5 years like Hasan, Shadab, Fahim and Shaheen etc) from the day he was made captain when he was made captain he asked for Shoaib and Hafeez against Bangladesh because he was afraid of loosing to them.

Without Shoaib Malik and Hafeez Pakistan was whitewashed by SL reserves and destroyed by Aus.

 

[moghul]

Pakistan cricket team culture is too crude to care about dressing room atmosphere. Babar is not an educated and sophisticated guy, not a captaincy material .

 

[Shafi]

Needs more superstars like Naseem, Musa, Rauf, Asif, Ahsan, Haider, Abdullah, etc.

More likely S khan, Imran Sr, Shehzad, Akmal brothers, Ifti, khasif...

 

[Darkrai]

More likely S khan, Imran Sr, Shehzad, Akmal brothers, Ifti, khasif...

Makes sense since all of them probably have better records than these guys.

 

[Savak]

When once is a generational talent of Pakistan like Naseem, Musa, Haider, Abdullah, etc. start performing and not humiliate Pakistan by creating the worst bowling records in the history of the game and looking like club cricketers.

Idk maybe he wants the potential world-beating youngsters who are already in the team to perform before adding more lesser-hyped youngsters.

Lol but Abbas and Wahab hardly set the world on fire in NZ, Abbas deliveries don't even carry to the keeper anymore and Seiffer smashed Wahab for 20 in one over. Everyone knows what Malik did in the 2019 WC.

I don't blame Wasim for standing his ground if the captain is demanding TTF's.

 

[Mamoon]

Will this be the new excuse when these talentless and mediocre emerging players inevitably fail?

 

[Nov15]

Babar is easily the most important personality in Pak cricket. He should kick Mohammad Wasim out like Kohli booted Kumble.

 

[Shafi]

Will this be the new excuse when these talentless and mediocre emerging players inevitably fail?

So you want to recall players from 70s, 80s or 90s? Many may fail but some may turn out to be decent. You have to move on and keep looking rather than your negative attitude towards new players.

 

[Shafi]

Babar is easily the most important personality in Pak cricket. He should kick Mohammad Wasim out like Kohli booted Kumble.

Babar is no where near Kohli. Just because we fans hyped him over the moon but the reality is he has neither leadership skill or batting skill like Kohli. He is a decent batsman. Not more than that. Any top 4 team has 3-4 better and impact players than Babar

 

[saeed5646]

Will this be the new excuse when these talentless and mediocre emerging players inevitably fail?

Well you wanted wahab,ifti out of team but on the contrary you are supporting babar azam now who want these 2 in the team

 

[saeed5646]

Babar is easily the most important personality in Pak cricket. He should kick Mohammad Wasim out like Kohli booted Kumble.

Kohli is on different level in term of captaincy and batting.

 

[arunpsm]

Kohli is on different level in term of captaincy and batting.

There are very visible groupisms in Ind cricket too, and it may affect the performance of players, team in different ways. Point i am trying to make is - Kohli or Babar or anyone, these are practical issues everywhere

 

[gazza619]

I heard that Babar wanted the clueless/braveless/fitnessless ‘Haris Sohail’ in the team.

No thank you!!!

 

[Energy]

Have said many times that Babar is not the type of person that can take the challenge and responsibility of leading youngsters - instead he is in his comfort zone when surrounded by experienced cricketers who all do their own thing and Babar remains the chota of the group.

It takes nothing away from Babar the batsman and he will retire as a Pakistan legend, but I will be very surprised if we see any youngster develop under him. The moment between Shadab, Hassan and Sarfaraz during the PSL was one of my favorite ones.

It doesn't matter if the youngsters are not good enough, but they are still a much better bet over the likes of Ifti, Haris, Wahab, Yasir who are all washed up and will not offer anything of note going forward and are only good in selective conditions.

 

[b.lesner]

Without Shoaib Malik and Hafeez Pakistan was whitewashed by SL reserves and destroyed by Aus.

Who were the top 4 batsman youngesters???

Ahmed Shehzad, Umar Akmal and Sarfraz etc Misbah genius selection

 

[OMB]

I can only imagine what will be going through wasim and dhani when captain is publicly naming them and showing zero confidence in their ability

Very Awkward indeed. They were already under pressure to perform which is always there for any new player but not they have become part of management politics.
Poor ethics and poorer communication protocols.

 

[Devadwal]

I heard that Babar wanted the clueless/braveless/fitnessless ‘Haris Sohail’ in the team.

No thank you!!!

Whatever i have seen Haris untill now he looks solid batsman . watched his batting in 2019 world cup & some shots he played were pure class but don't know what happened to him now

 

[Hawkeye]

Babar seems to be thinking in a selfish way.

He thinks he can win matches by retaining his besties, who are terrible at cricket.

People like Yasir Shah etc.

Bad.

 

[Shoaibbtt]

Babar seems to be thinking in a selfish way.

He thinks he can win matches by retaining his besties, who are terrible at cricket.

People like Yasir Shah etc.

Bad.

Yasir will be refreshed and come back stronger, might as well use this time to rest and enjoy Ramadan with the family.

 

[dildilpak]

While Babar’s viewpoints on team selection should definitely be heard, he literally threw those two young cricketers under the bus just to prove his point against Mohd Wasim. Thats not done, especially for a captain who should be encouraging all young cricketers & definitely not disparaging them publicly like he did.

This is the most annoying part about Pakistan cricket team - nobody has any sense/brains of what to say. This is not a good start for a young captain who probably still doesnt have complete respect/control over his dressing room.

 

[Darkrai]

Who were the top 4 batsman youngesters???

Ahmed Shehzad, Umar Akmal and Sarfraz etc Misbah genius selection

Who would your top 4 have been?

 

[Markhor]

Babar should first concentrate on not missing straight balls from average spinners.

He should obviously be consulted on selections, but he shouldn't have leaked his concerns like this.

 

[Darkrai]

Babar should first concentrate on not missing straight balls from average spinners.

He should obviously be consulted on selections, but he shouldn't have leaked his concerns like this.

Maybe he wouldn't have to if the childish selector picked up his phone and listen to him.

 

[dildilpak]

Maybe he wouldn't have to if the childish selector picked up his phone and listen to him.

Yeah sure, Babar could & should have made public his issues with Wasim. But why name the young cricketers whose selection he is against & demoralise them?

 

[Darkrai]

Yeah sure, Babar could & should have made public his issues with Wasim. But why name the young cricketers whose selection he is against & demoralise them?

He simply wants the players to mature a bit and perform in the domestic first. Otherwise, oh they'll be demoralized when they are getting destroyed at international level just like Naseem, Musa, Rauf, etc.

 

[cricketAXEpert]

Many fail to understand that Babar isn't wrong in what he said.

The example of Naseem lies in front of us. A very good prospect, who needed to spend time in domestic to learn his trade, is now much worse than he was when he came.

Would you risk losing another good prospect in Mohammad Wasim Jr. or Shahnawaz Dhani? They need more time in the FC system. Same with Arshad.

All these young bowlers don't need international exposure right now.

Babar probably knows what's wrong with the team better than us, and the only reason he would criticise selections is if they don't fix a glaring issue. For one, there is no player named who will solve our weak middle order batting in T20Is, which was exposed against SAF. Nobody wants to talk about that, but we tried 3 players and all three produced failing results? Is that not a sign that we need to cut back on the experimentation and go with a proven player in Malik? Or will we wait until the night before the WC and draft him into the squad?

I don't know what Mohammad Wasim's issue is, but he needs to be more considerate about what the captain is saying.

Babar is right. When it comes to selection, PCB makes emotional selections along with some sifarishi players. We have literally selected newbies for all 3 formats based on an incomplete PSL played at a single venue. Half a tournament played at a single venue gives little to no track record.
And something weird is going on with Imad Wasim, he is being gradually fazed out of the side. Different excuses are being given (he was not played against SA home series as well). Imad who was a captain and the top all rounder in ICC rankings before Misbah took over. Chacha Iftikhar Ahmed, Asif ali and Mohd Nawaz are all Misbah favorites.
No way Mohd Nawaz is even an equal to Imad Wasim in Batting.

 

[shamaan]

Babar should have made his opinion known with wasim and not with the media.wasim squad was more than decent baring 1/2 players.instead of backing the youngesters hes thrown them under the buss wonder what it will do to thier confidence

 

[shamaan]

Many fail to understand that Babar isn't wrong in what he said.

The example of Naseem lies in front of us. A very good prospect, who needed to spend time in domestic to learn his trade, is now much worse than he was when he came.

Would you risk losing another good prospect in Mohammad Wasim Jr. or Shahnawaz Dhani? They need more time in the FC system. Same with Arshad.

All these young bowlers don't need international exposure right now.

Babar probably knows what's wrong with the team better than us, and the only reason he would criticise selections is if they don't fix a glaring issue. For one, there is no player named who will solve our weak middle order batting in T20Is, which was exposed against SAF. Nobody wants to talk about that, but we tried 3 players and all three produced failing results? Is that not a sign that we need to cut back on the experimentation and go with a proven player in Malik? Or will we wait until the night before the WC and draft him into the squad?

I don't know what Mohammad Wasim's issue is, but he needs to be more considerate about what the captain is saying.

Yes just continue with malik,abbas,iftikhar until another 20 years no problem.wasim stated if the test series was against south africa dahani may not have made the squad he proberly in the squad due to it being Zimbabwe.

Whos job is on the line babar or wasim more ?

 

[msb314]

I heard that Babar wanted the clueless/braveless/fitnessless ‘Haris Sohail’ in the team.

No thank you!!!

Haris Sohail is our best ODI batsman after Babar. His inclusion in the ODI team is a no brainer..

 

[shamaan]

Haris Sohail is our best ODI batsman after Babar. His inclusion in the ODI team is a no brainer..

I rather rather invest in saud.when was the last time we played odi with haris in the team?

 

[msb314]

Babar is no where near Kohli. Just because we fans hyped him over the moon but the reality is he has neither leadership skill or batting skill like Kohli. He is a decent batsman. Not more than that. Any top 4 team has 3-4 better and impact players than Babar

Since you are so confident - can you name these 3-4 better batsman from every top 4 team?

 

[msb314]

I rather rather invest in saud.when was the last time we played odi with haris in the team?

Sure invest in Saud by all means but not in an away tour to SAF of all places..

 

[Saj]

If I was one of those players, I'd think I want to change the skipper's opinions by performing, doing well and winning matches for my team if given the chance.

 

[the Great Khan]

Id fire Babar Azam from the cuptaany. i see a typical Lahore street kid who has zero idea how to lead a team..we are doomed..(I sound like Mamoon)..lol.

 

[shamaan]

Sure invest in Saud by all means but not in an away tour to SAF of all places..

The next home tour after that is alot harder its against england.how long can haris sohail play for with his knees.pakistan should do well against south africa they aint that strong

 

[Indiafan]

Babar should have made his opinion known with wasim and not with the media.wasim squad was more than decent baring 1/2 players.instead of backing the youngesters hes thrown them under the buss wonder what it will do to thier confidence

But Wasim was not picking his calls and then later told him he didnt want his opinions

 

[dildilpak]

He simply wants the players to mature a bit and perform in the domestic first. Otherwise, oh they'll be demoralized when they are getting destroyed at international level just like Naseem, Musa, Rauf, etc.

I get the logic of that, just dont see why their names had to be publically announced. The knowledge that the captain does not have their back could be humiliating for them. In any case, i hope they take this positively & come back stronger.

 

[moghul]

If I was one of those players, I'd think I want to change the skipper's opinions by performing, doing well and winning matches for my team if given the chance.

If I ever get a chance. Good luck with that.

 

[hur rizvi]

Not good from Babar. Even if he wants to go public this is definitely not the way. You can't just name selected players' names to make your point.

Captaincy in my opinion is the worst thing that has happened to Babar in his career. His batting form has started to down and with such kind of fights he'll only harm himself as a player.

 

[Babeikh]

If I was one of those players, I'd think I want to change the skipper's opinions by performing, doing well and winning matches for my team if given the chance.

This.

Let's be clear - this is the NATIONAL TEAM we are talking about. It is not the school U14s or the U15 B team where the teacher has to give everyone a chance and be nice and try not to hurt the poor kid's feelings. If you don't have the mental strength and capacity to hack it then you shouldn't be there and part of 'hacking it' is that people are going to criticise you and say you aren't good enough and question your selection - now you can respond to that in two ways:


1. As Saj suggested above. Prove it. Show your mettle.
2. Whinge, whine, feel sorry for yourself, blame person A, blame person B, blame the rickshaw driver who took you to nets that day back when you were 12, blame the dhaba walla who gave you food poisoning on the morning of your trial, blame some random politician who was peddling his influence to get his bhanja in the team etc

We know what the easy option is but doing anything at the highest level in the world requires hard work, determination, bouncing back from set backs, people talking about you (and not always in a good way) etc. Those that choose option 1 are the ones who are most likely to have long and successful careers. Those that choose option 2 would not have made it for long either way.

 

[Shafi]

Since you are so confident - can you name these 3-4 better batsman from every top 4 team?

India: Rohit, Kohli, Pant, Rahane
Eng: Root, Butler, Morgan, Roy
NZ: Willamson, Guptil, Taylor
Aus: Warner, Smith, Labus

 

[gazza619]

Whatever i have seen Haris untill now he looks solid batsman . watched his batting in 2019 world cup & some shots he played were pure class but don't know what happened to him now

Haris Sohail is our best ODI batsman after Babar. His inclusion in the ODI team is a no brainer..

Our current best batsmen in ODIs after Babar are Imam and Rizwan.

Haris Sohail has been mostly unfit for the past year. He failed in NZ. I was a fan of him but to make a comeback he cannot rely on his performances in 2019. He needs to score tons of runs in domestic cricket and prove his form and fitness.

 

[Babeikh]

India: Rohit, Kohli, Pant, Rahane
Eng: Root, Butler, Morgan, Roy
NZ: Willamson, Guptil, Taylor
Aus: Warner, Smith, Labus

Lol if you seriously think all these guys are better than Babar

 

[Shafi]

Babar needs to be innovative and brave in order to be successful

 

[observer1]

People are reading way too into these comments.

He made some valid points and I'm inclined to believe there was no malice behind them.

 

[UzmanBeast]

Babar is right. When it comes to selection, PCB makes emotional selections along with some sifarishi players. We have literally selected newbies for all 3 formats based on an incomplete PSL played at a single venue. Half a tournament played at a single venue gives little to no track record.
And something weird is going on with Imad Wasim, he is being gradually fazed out of the side. Different excuses are being given (he was not played against SA home series as well). Imad who was a captain and the top all rounder in ICC rankings before Misbah took over. Chacha Iftikhar Ahmed, Asif ali and Mohd Nawaz are all Misbah favorites.
No way Mohd Nawaz is even an equal to Imad Wasim in Batting.

Imad skipped the SAF home series, he wasn't dropped for that. He made himself unavailable.

I don't know what's going on but sooner or later we'll see why he was dropped.

 

[UzmanBeast]

Yes just continue with malik,abbas,iftikhar until another 20 years no problem.wasim stated if the test series was against south africa dahani may not have made the squad he proberly in the squad due to it being Zimbabwe.

Whos job is on the line babar or wasim more ?

Babar is the national captain, if he wanted someone else his choice should be respected.

Is Wasim going to win us matches?

There has been no competent middle order batsman capable of handling pressure and rotating strike apart from Malik, and that's the only reason I'd take him to the WC.

 

[shamaan]

Babar is the national captain, if he wanted someone else his choice should be respected.

Is Wasim going to win us matches?

There has been no competent middle order batsman capable of handling pressure and rotating strike apart from Malik, and that's the only reason I'd take him to the WC.

Should be taken into consideration but not a MUST we pick his choices.does other countries captain have an overall say in the squad ?.and who said he wont be in the WC squad?.

He wasnt just happy about malik non inclusion he also wanted Khushdil in the squad!.

Babar should make his voice none behind closed doors.

 

[CleverSir]

If he was smart. He would address this issue on the first morning of camp. If this is all true then, tell the players that while he was pushing for certain players it is now in the past. The guys with him now are his players and he will support them fully and they should give him 100%. Thats it. Then move on. If anyone has an individual problem they can take it up individually with him. I hope he doesn't let it linger. Again, that will go back to how he is as a captain in the dressing room.

 

[kingusama92]

Babar is the national captain, if he wanted someone else his choice should be respected.

Is Wasim going to win us matches?

There has been no competent middle order batsman capable of handling pressure and rotating strike apart from Malik, and that's the only reason I'd take him to the WC.

I disagree.

Captains shouldn't go around asking for specific names. That's silly.

Instead, they should focus on the types of players they want in their XI. For example, "I need an aggressive opener. Wasim, find me the best one in domestic cricket based on your scouting."

That's logical.

It becomes thoroughly ridiculous when a captain starts asking for specific players as that makes the chief selector nothing more than the captain's yes-man.

 

[Indiafan]

I disagree.

Captains shouldn't go around asking for specific names. That's silly.

Instead, they should focus on the types of players they want in their XI. For example, "I need an aggressive opener. Wasim, find me the best one in domestic cricket based on your scouting."

That's logical.

It becomes thoroughly ridiculous when a captain starts asking for specific players as that makes the chief selector nothing more than the captain's yes-man.

Babar clearly said his issue was that the chief selector didn't even pick up his many calls and then said your input is not required. How can your imaginary scenario happen if the chief selector doesn't even pick up the captain calls and ignores him?

 

[kingusama92]

Babar clearly said his issue was that the chief selector didn't even pick up his many calls and then said your input is not required. How can your imaginary scenario happen if the chief selector doesn't even pick up the captain calls and ignores him?

Muhammad Wasim seemed like he did maintain communication with Babar Azam (his interview yesterday).

However, if it is true he ignored Babar (at any stage) then that is indeed poor.

Just like Babar shouldn't force specific players, Wasim should also take the time to listen to any input that's provided by Babar Azam. There is no doubt having both on the same page is not only good for the selection process but also for their jobs.

Based on my understanding of how things work in Pakistan cricket, a lot of the issues stem from two things:

1. Captains thinking their word is final ("Cause that's how Imran Khan used to do it!")
2. Chief selectors letting their ego get in the way (also nepotism with some of the previous selectors)

The next part is just my opinion but...

In this case, I think we're looking at the wrong guys.

This seems more of a Misbah thing with Babar being used as a political tool. The guy is very shrewd when it comes to these matters as seen with how he neatly disposed of Mickey Arthur and took his job. Him getting into Babar's head is child's play.

 

[UzmanBeast]

Should be taken into consideration but not a MUST we pick his choices.does other countries captain have an overall say in the squad ?.and who said he wont be in the WC squad?.

He wasnt just happy about malik non inclusion he also wanted Khushdil in the squad!.

Babar should make his voice none behind closed doors.

Hussain Talat, Iftikhar Ahmed, Khushdil Shah, Asif Ali were 4 options I can remember from the top of my head. Those were players we tried in the middle order, and they didn't perform.

You look at the remaining options, which are: Sarfaraz Ahmed, Sohaib Maqsood, Shoaib Malik.

Now, Asif didn't deserve a spot on the team from my standpoint, so someone like Maqsood could have gone. Hits sixes and bats with a good strike rate and average.

Sarfaraz is already with the squad, so whether or not he plays comes down to Babar himself.

Shoaib Malik isn't with the squad at all.

Khushdil is a leg-side hack, so his inclusion on Babar's part makes no sense. He's had ample opportunities, but never capitalizes. He even flopped in the PSL. Time to move on from him.

I assume we'll know more after the SAF T20 series, so until then, the media will continue criticisizing the selections until these players perform well together in a good series.

 

[UzmanBeast]

I disagree.

Captains shouldn't go around asking for specific names. That's silly.

Instead, they should focus on the types of players they want in their XI. For example, "I need an aggressive opener. Wasim, find me the best one in domestic cricket based on your scouting."

That's logical.

It becomes thoroughly ridiculous when a captain starts asking for specific players as that makes the chief selector nothing more than the captain's yes-man.

No, I understand that giving specific names isn't a good idea, but given the types of players who were included, particularly Asif Ali, there were other options available.

Yes, Wasim has his own thoughts, but after the SAF series, I think that he should sit down and really ask Babar where the team is lacking and what type of player they need. Realistically, our team is pretty solid till #4, but our lower order is quite concerning. Too many changes, not many performers either. That's the area to focus on, and perhaps Sohaib Maqsood would be a good addition to the team.

Wasim did select about 80% of the squad perfectly fine, but there were some players who could have been in the team based on their performances, who were ignored for various unknown reasons.

At this point, we can only wait until the SAF series ends, before we can really question the places of people in the team.

The issue we're going to face, and I'll say it right here, is Shadab's lack of form and how he occupies a guaranteed slot on the team. His bowling will let us down, and he will play in place of Nawaz, who I would be more willing to play in SAF given that he's accurate. Usman might not feature, despite doing well against SAF at home.

 

[Saj]

Not having the best of times is Babar is he.

Differences with the Chief Selector.
Accusations about an alleged relationship with a lady.
Allegations of flouting Cocid-19 rules.

 

[shamaan]

Hussain Talat, Iftikhar Ahmed, Khushdil Shah, Asif Ali were 4 options I can remember from the top of my head. Those were players we tried in the middle order, and they didn't perform.

You look at the remaining options, which are: Sarfaraz Ahmed, Sohaib Maqsood, Shoaib Malik.

Now, Asif didn't deserve a spot on the team from my standpoint, so someone like Maqsood could have gone. Hits sixes and bats with a good strike rate and average.

Sarfaraz is already with the squad, so whether or not he plays comes down to Babar himself.

Shoaib Malik isn't with the squad at all.

Khushdil is a leg-side hack, so his inclusion on Babar's part makes no sense. He's had ample opportunities, but never capitalizes. He even flopped in the PSL. Time to move on from him.

I assume we'll know more after the SAF T20 series, so until then, the media will continue criticisizing the selections until these players perform well together in a good series.

Shaoib maqsood is what he was couple years ago he hasnt regressed but he hasnt gone better.maqsood batted in the top 4 in national cup and psl and wasim stated in one of the press conference were you play for domestic thats were you will likely play for Pakistan.

Thier will also be 1 or 2 decisions people will disagree in any squad.

Yes defonitely pakistan have a few players they are not sure on yet for example the oppening slot fakhar,sharjeel,babar,rizwan.
the number 5/6 spot haider ali,malik,asif ali,danish aziz.
The left arm spinner nawaz,imad tight call.
The new ball bowler, husnain,rauf,hassan ali

 

[Gotham Cronie]

I can only imagine what will be going through wasim and dhani when captain is publicly naming them and showing zero confidence in their ability

While Babar’s viewpoints on team selection should definitely be heard, he literally threw those two young cricketers under the bus just to prove his point against Mohd Wasim. Thats not done, especially for a captain who should be encouraging all young cricketers & definitely not disparaging them publicly like he did.

This is the most annoying part about Pakistan cricket team - nobody has any sense/brains of what to say. This is not a good start for a young captain who probably still doesnt have complete respect/control over his dressing room.

Yeah sure, Babar could & should have made public his issues with Wasim. But why name the young cricketers whose selection he is against & demoralise them?

I get the logic of that, just dont see why their names had to be publically announced. The knowledge that the captain does not have their back could be humiliating for them. In any case, i hope they take this positively & come back stronger.

Not good from Babar. Even if he wants to go public this is definitely not the way. You can't just name selected players' names to make your point.

Captaincy in my opinion is the worst thing that has happened to Babar in his career. His batting form has started to down and with such kind of fights he'll only harm himself as a player.

Did I miss where he went public?

 

[UzmanBeast]

Shaoib maqsood is what he was couple years ago he hasnt regressed but he hasnt gone better.maqsood batted in the top 4 in national cup and psl and wasim stated in one of the press conference were you play for domestic thats were you will likely play for Pakistan.

Thier will also be 1 or 2 decisions people will disagree in any squad.

Yes defonitely pakistan have a few players they are not sure on yet for example the oppening slot fakhar,sharjeel,babar,rizwan.
the number 5/6 spot haider ali,malik,asif ali,danish aziz.
The left arm spinner nawaz,imad tight call.
The new ball bowler, husnain,rauf,hassan ali

IMO if Asif Ali is getting 26 matches to prove himself in a role which he hasn't, someone like Sohaib can be tried again as well. He can hit sixes, and has some decent batting stats too.

The problem with the openers will need to be sorted, whereas Hasnain would be fine with the new ball as the death overs aren't his specialty.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

I am worried that Babar wanted Wahab Riaz, Mohd Abbass, Shoaib Malik to be selected. When are we going to move forward?

I feel that it was Misbah who is behind Babar.. It looks to me like Misbah wants the seniors who we all know has the liking for seniors and never want to try a youngster.. All knew how he gave debut to Haider Ali, and still no debut for Saud Shakeel and Kamran Ghulam..

I also believe that Nauman was given a go in tests because he was 35 yrs old....


Misbah would definitely want his buddy ifthikar ... Only Misbah wants him, whenever he is out of power , this guy gets dropped deservingly..

Im sure Misbah is annoyed of dropping Ifthikar from LOIs..

Misbah with all the bowlers available picked Imran Khan and Sohail Khan...People should never forget that....

 

[shamaan]

IMO if Asif Ali is getting 26 matches to prove himself in a role which he hasn't, someone like Sohaib can be tried again as well. He can hit sixes, and has some decent batting stats too.

The problem with the openers will need to be sorted, whereas Hasnain would be fine with the new ball as the death overs aren't his specialty.

He has been given enough opportunities he will proberly get this series to perform and will get dropped if he doesnt perform.as for maqsood hes been invited to the camp so lets see what wasim does.

As for new ball it depends becouse it seems like they prefer rauf but husnain should be given a series or two.