[PICTURES] Will Mohammad Amir and Imad Wasim play under Babar Azam as captain?

Will Mohammad Amir and Imad Wasim play under Babar Azam as captain?


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seriously look at what your claiming.

Imad does poorly: He deserved to be dropped.

Shaheen does poorly as captain: Oh well ummm I think it's unfair he got booted

Edit: Imad does poorly

Well yes he deservedthe boot.

Shaheen has an awful 2023 and 2024

well he should be pur captain, oh man, why was he dropped, his awful 2023 defo warranted captaincy.

@160KPH
That’s such a weak comparison.

Imad has played 55 ODIs, 66 T20Is, and 347 T20s. That’s a massive sample size. And even more importantly we got to see how he performs in international tournaments and we saw him get out performed by Shadab Khan in every single one.

Shaheen on the other hand got to captain one 5 match series against New Zealand.

And even beyond that, you can’t compare captaincy performances to player performances. If Imad was made captain for the 5 match series against New Zealand, then he also should have got a longer run because captaincy involves much longer term changes.
 
Bro you should know by now. Your arguments have to be clear, he only understands literal language.
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What part of ‘Asif Ali is a better captain option’ than Babar means Asif Ali is a better batsman than Babar?

(Although Asif for what he offers is indeed a better T20 batsman than Babar for what he offers )
Here we go @mominsaigol. Now write an essay to your friend.

Keep us updated on sharjeel how he performs against teams like wing 999 ao hospital.

The irony is you guys were mocking Babar for playing Ramadan tournaments last year which he didn't play but your heros in amir and sharjeel played lol. Tbf to sharjeel he needs to get his act together as the way he's performing he might not even play these tournaments. What will be next after this over 60s?
 
The irony of you talking about comprehension. So you have given up on him being a better batsmen now. At least some progress. You option hurts who told that anyone takes your opinion seriously?
You are intentionally misinterpreting me or misquoting me whilst fasting? The Asif Ali captain thread is there. Go and read what I said.

That being said. Yes Asif is 100% more likely to score 30 off 14 balls to win a game at the back end for Pakistan in comparison with Babar who might play the whole innings, he not out and still unable to achieve this.
 
That’s such a weak comparison.

Imad has played 55 ODIs, 66 T20Is, and 347 T20s. That’s a massive sample size. And even more importantly we got to see how he performs in international tournaments and we saw him get out performed by Shadab Khan in every single one.

Shaheen on the other hand got to captain one 5 match series against New Zealand.

And even beyond that, you can’t compare captaincy performances to player performances. If Imad was made captain for the 5 match series against New Zealand, then he also should have got a longer run because captaincy involves much longer term changes.
Let me rephrase

On what basis of THAT SAMPLE SIZE was imad dropped when that sample size includes victories vs Afghanistan, Ireland and other stuff.

Shaheen's sample size includes him flunking all of 2023 and 2024, failing in 2022 amd getting smacked for 3 sixes in 2021,

So where was his boot? Or are you gonna flip flop and say shaheen deserves to be dropped?
 
Bro they won’t understand

These are die hard Rizwan fans you are arguing with. Imad did their icon dirty in 2019 by benching him for Chadwick Walton, and still lifting the PSL. It was nothing personal to Rizwan, it’s just cricket and how it should work. They see Imad as Netanyahu or Modi
Imad fans were crying when I bought out his 100% loss record for Pakistan saying it's 2 matches but are fine Shaheen getting just 1 series.
 
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You are intentionally misinterpreting me or misquoting me whilst fasting? The Asif Ali captain thread is there. Go and read what I said.

That being said. Yes Asif is 100% more likely to score 30 off 14 balls to win a game at the back end for Pakistan in comparison with Babar who might play the whole innings, he not out and still unable to achieve this.
Someone thinks Babar can score 30 of 14 in the death against good bowling? Pfftttt hahaha.
 
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You are intentionally misinterpreting me or misquoting me whilst fasting? The Asif Ali captain thread is there. Go and read what I said.

That being said. Yes Asif is 100% more likely to score 30 off 14 balls to win a game at the back end for Pakistan in comparison with Babar who might play the whole innings, he not out and still unable to achieve this.
Read your posts again and even your latest posts. Why would I need to misquote you? Just say I want Asif Ali over Babar I know you are itching to say it.
 
Imad deserved to be booted for his bad performance but shaheen deserved to be captain for his bad performance.

Same logic can apply for rizwan with his chocking nonsense, it doesn't change anything, I can just swap shaheen for rizwan.

Wouldn't make you look less hypocritical
You’re trying to compare captaincy performance to player performances when they’re completely different things.

Imad deserved to be removed for his bad performances over the span of a long period of time. Including him being outplayed by his replacements/alternatives in both internationals and PSL.

Shaheen on the other hand was captain for one series. I also don’t think Rizwan should be in the T20 team, and definitely not as an opener.

You’re just trying to paint me in a certain way even though I will be consistent with the things that I’m saying. Rizwan’s SR as opener is too low and it was also too low in the PSL that just finished.
 
Someone thinks Bobby can score 30 of 14 in the death against good bowling? Pfftttt hahaha.
I can use Abdullah Shafique to get Babar’s 50 off 37 balls

I can’t use Babar Azam to get me 30 off 14 balls though.

I can actually ask Asif Ali to play for himself and make sure he gets 50 off 40 balls from the word go.
 
I can use Abdullah Shafique to get Babar’s 50 off 37 balls

I can’t use Babar Azam to get me 30 off 14 balls though.

I can actually ask Asif Ali to play for himself and make sure he gets 50 off 40 balls from the word go.
Asif Ali won't last that long.
 
You’re trying to compare captaincy performance to player performances when they’re completely different things.

Imad deserved to be removed for his bad performances over the span of a long period of time. Including him being outplayed by his replacements/alternatives in both internationals and PSL.

Shaheen on the other hand was captain for one series. I also don’t think Rizwan should be in the T20 team, and definitely not as an opener.

You’re just trying to paint me in a certain way even though I will be consistent with the things that I’m saying. Rizwan’s SR as opener is too low and it was also too low in the PSL that just finished.
So why do you want rizwan as captain then? You just said so earlier you think rizzu shpuld be captain? And now you want him to sit out?

Again shall I quote you shaheen's sample size as a player for the 2nd time?

Again answer my question, on basis of which selected sample size?
 
Read your posts again and even your latest posts. Why would I need to misquote you? Just say I want Asif Ali over Babar I know you are itching to say it.
Yes, I don’t mind Asif Ali as captain over Babar. I want someone who plays for the team first.
 
Let me rephrase

On what basis of THAT SAMPLE SIZE was imad dropped when that sample size includes victories vs Afghanistan, Ireland and other stuff.

Shaheen's sample size includes him flunking all of 2023 and 2024, failing in 2022 amd getting smacked for 3 sixes in 2021,

So where was his boot? Or are you gonna flip flop and say shaheen deserves to be dropped?
Bro what are you even talking about at this point?

Shaheen was an amazing bowler who got rushed back from injury and has not performed nearly as good as he used to perform pre injury. Even though he’s not been as good as he was before, he still ends up being our highest wicket much of the time.

Imad wasn’t suffering from injury when he was getting out played by Shadab Khan. You can’t just compare every single situation without providing the context.

But also literally go look up my old posts. I wanted Shaheen to be dropped/rested for 2023 WC and the Australia Test series. I said this many many times. When he came back it was clear he was rushed back way too quickly. Also Shaheen was absolutely amazing in the 2022 T20 WC. Just because he got hit for 3 sixes right after Hasan Ali dropped a catch doesn’t mean he was good the rest of the tournament.
 
Anyway I'm going to sleep, I'd love to continue for s few more hours, but it's exactly 2:20 am in my local region. Toodles.
 
Didn't asif murder afghani bowling or some teams bowling in 2021? Where got 24 in an over? Against quality bowling?
Indeed, 2 of Pakistan’s most important wins are attributed to him in 2021

He also ensured Pak got over the line v India in one of the Asia cup group games.
 
Imad is good enough to make the Pakistan squad and is good enough to be picked for pakistan xi only in t20 thou.
 
So why do you want rizwan as captain then? You just said so earlier you think rizzu shpuld be captain? And now you want him to sit out?

Again shall I quote you shaheen's sample size as a player for the 2nd time?

Again answer my question, on basis of which selected sample size?
Bro Shaheen has been our highest wicket taker since his debut and he was insanely good in the T20 WC in 2022. He was player of the match when we beat India 152/0 in the 2021 WC as well and pretty good that whole tournament.

The fact you have to focus on just 3 balls rather than focusing on how his entire tournament went just proves my point even more.
 
Didn't asif murder afghani bowling or some teams bowling in 2021? Where got 24 in an over? Against quality bowling?
Karim janat is a quality bowler. Thanks for letting me know. I didn't know about this world class bowler.
 
Yes, I don’t mind Asif Ali as captain over Babar. I want someone who plays for the team first.
Asif Ali wouldn't make any of the teams at this world cup but yes according to you he's a better batsmen than Babar.
 
Karim janat is a quality bowler. Thanks for letting me know. I didn't know about this world class bowler.
Trent Boult and Southee?

Can Babar score 24 off one over at the back end against Karim Janat? That too in a World Cup knockout sort of game?

I think Babar will get 7-10 runs in the over if he is put up against the challange
 
Guys you are just ruining this thread, have bumped asif ali one for you plz use that for relevant discourse.
 
Trent Boult and Southee?

Can Babar score 24 off one over at the back end against Karim Janat? That too in a World Cup knockout sort of game?

I think Babar will get 7-10 runs in the over if he is put up against the challange
Ah now NZ are a good team. I thought they were because Babar and rizwan scores against them. Hitting a couple of sixes means he's better than Babar.
 
Ah now NZ are a good team. I thought they were because Babar and rizwan scores against them. Hitting a couple of sixes means he's better than Babar.
Ok for me to win my argument with you…


No NZ are a terrible team!!
 
Selection committee member and senior team manager Wahab Riaz speaking during the presser:

“The decision to include Imad Wasim and Mohammad Amir was a straightforward one, given their availability for selection and considering Haris Rauf's injury and Mohammad Nawaz's current form. Both Amir and Imad possess undeniable match-winning capabilities, and we trust they will consistently deliver strong performances to bolster the team's objectives.
 
Wahab Riaz in a press conference today cited reasons for return of Imad Wasim and Mohammad Amir in the squad:

"The decision to include Imad Wasim and Mohammad Amir was a straightforward one, given their availability for selection and considering Haris Rauf's injury and Mohammad Nawaz's current form."

"Both Amir and Imad possess undeniable match-winning capabilities, and we trust they will consistently deliver strong performances to bolster the team's objectives,"
 
They willy nilly will play now under him although they would have loved to work under SSA.
 
Easy

I’ll repeat it for @PakEngFan ’s comprehension

Even now, I recon Asif Ali will be a better captain for Pakistan instead of selfish Babar Azam.

I know this opinion hurts, but I truly believe it.

The same Asif Ali who played for Faisalabad Wolves and is said to be a friend of Misbah? Are you sure you want to support this guy
 
Who says Misbah’s friends are all bad cricketers?
Uhhh, bro, Asif Ali is probably gonna make things worse.

Appointing him is like appointing chacha as captain.

Best to go for imad wasim as captain.
 
Not sure how long Imad will hold back if not played in the XI?
 
For those who had doubts about Amir playing under Babar's captaincy.....

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Think imad should retire again. It’s sad. Babar is not picking him over Shadab and prefers to play with Abrar. And it’s not like the nawaz situation where he was just worse than imad. You could even argue the merits of this decision, if you don’t assume imad will perform with the bat as good as specialist batsmen.
 
I can understand Amir being rested after one match.

Imad though he deserves a chance. But why risk picking him when Shadab Khan tells good jokes and loves Biryani to?
 
We seriously need to know why is Imad warming the bench? Why is he in the squad when Babar is refusing to pick him? Is Imad injured? How come Urooj has not asked Babar the reasons for dropping Imad for the third game in a row? What the hell is going on?
 
Babar obviously can't let go of whatever grudge he has against Imad.

The end result is a richly deserved humiliation. Can't bat nor captain against a C string NZ team. Embarrassing stuff.
Kinda reminds of misbah's treatment of sarfraz. Oh look I found another uncanny resemblance.

Another pakistanincaptain having issues with a karachi born superstar.
 
Even yesterday Amir should have bowled the second over, but Babar decided to go with Naseem Shah. I have no idea what Babar is trying to do?
 
Kinda reminds of misbah's treatment of sarfraz. Oh look I found another uncanny resemblance.

Another pakistanincaptain having issues with a karachi born superstar.
Tbh bro, I think Imad isn’t fully fit at the moment or they are somehow trying to shield him at Pindi (even though I don’t think Maddy needs any hiding from the management).

But if there is something sinister at play, I wouldn’t be surprised with this guy Babar Azam. He doesn’t like or Rate Amir and Imad so it’s not beyond him to play it dirty with them. Their whole relationship dynamics changed the more Rizwan got involved in Pakistan cricket
 
Tbh bro, I think Imad isn’t fully fit at the moment or they are somehow trying to shield him at Pindi (even though I don’t think Maddy needs any hiding from the management).

But if there is something sinister at play, I wouldn’t be surprised with this guy Babar Azam. He doesn’t like or Rate Amir and Imad so it’s not beyond him to play it dirty with them. Their whole relationship dynamics changed the more Rizwan got involved in Pakistan cricket
What does rizwan have to do with this? I thought the war was imad/ Amir vs Babar?
 
What does rizwan have to do with this? I thought the war was imad/ Amir vs Babar?
The whole feud/beef began with Rizwan crying to play for KK when Imad didn’t change his team under outside pressure with Rizwan taking Sarfaraz’s spot in the Pakistan team. Imad won the PSL without Rizwan, he couldn’t care less if Rizwan was opening for Pakistan.
 
The whole feud/beef began with Rizwan crying to play for KK when Imad didn’t change his team under outside pressure with Rizwan taking Sarfaraz’s spot in the Pakistan team. Imad won the PSL without Rizwan, he couldn’t care less if Rizwan was opening for Pakistan.
Oh that, I didn't form a link tbh, Imad and sarfraz ignored rizwan for a good reason. Just like the 100 is ignoring him for an even better reason.
 
Imad is from islo bro stop with your flat earth esque conspiracy theories
No, he was born in Swansea, he isn't from Islamabad, He's from swansea and represents karachi as a cricket nation. Him growing up in an Islamabad region means nill.
 
@Major please read this comedy because I shouldn’t be the only person to enjoy this stuff 😂
The person you're tagging is the guy who asked for India to be banned in totality and told me i need to stop a high five culture yet will gladly support and comment against this high five culture.

So go on ig
 
He has no link to Karachi lol.

It's like calling Babar a pathan coz he plays for Zalmi.

Be sensible instead of making it ethnic basis.
Babar got reappointed captain due to Peshawar connections and to naqvi just to let you know.

@Rana figured it out against Mamoon.

I said represent as a cricket nation, never mentioned ethnicity. Edit: Just realised I used the word Born, My bad.
 
The person you're tagging is the guy who asked for India to be banned in totality and told me i need to stop a high five culture yet will gladly support and comment against this high five culture.

So go on ig
The guy I’m tagging lives in Islamabad and I’m sure has seen Imad in Islamabad hundreds of times.

I literally played with Imad Wasim at Diamond Academy Islamabad and he’s been there for years.

And yet to continue to call him from Karachi? Mate, that is the most flat earther logic I have ever seen.
 
The guy I’m tagging lives in Islamabad and I’m sure has seen Imad in Islamabad hundreds of times.

I literally played with Imad Wasim at Diamond Academy Islamabad and he’s been there for years.

And yet to continue to call him from Karachi? Mate, that is the most flat earther logic I have ever seen.
From Karachi Kings yes, but I should let have used the word born, cause I associated sarfi and imad together.

But yes he represented KK as a nation and is now representing Islamabad United as a nation. Nothing wrong with what I claimed
 
From Karachi Kings yes, but I should let have used the word born, cause I associated sarfi and imad together.

But yes he represented KK as a nation and is now representing Islamabad United as a nation. Nothing wrong with what I claimed
Dude wth does “as a nation” even mean? Yes, Imad has played for KK the PSL franchise team - how does that mean that there’s any bias against him? So has Babar himself played for KK….
 
Dude wth does “as a nation” even mean? Yes, Imad has played for KK the PSL franchise team - how does that mean that there’s any bias against him? So has Babar himself played for KK….
Are you claiming theirs zero bias against imad atm? From Babar?
 
Are you claiming theirs zero bias against imad atm? From Babar?
I am saying that the bias, if any, does not exist because Imad played for KK. There could definitely be bias …but you made it all regional and said bull like “oh it’s because Imad is born in Karachi” … and then I told you he didn’t hit you kept digging your own grave instead of being a man and accepting you were wrong.

LOL you even said bs like “he has nil to do with Islamabad”
 
I am saying that the bias, if any, does not exist because Imad played for KK. There could definitely be bias …but you made it all regional and said bull like “oh it’s because Imad is born in Karachi” … and then I told you he didn’t hit you kept digging your own grave instead of being a man and accepting you were wrong.

LOL you even said bs like “he has nil to do with Islamabad”
Fair enough, but my og comment was directed towards misbah and sarfraz and I mixed up the 2 for an uncanny resemblance. But let it rest here mate.
 
The guy I’m tagging lives in Islamabad and I’m sure has seen Imad in Islamabad hundreds of times.

I literally played with Imad Wasim at Diamond Academy Islamabad and he’s been there for years.

And yet to continue to call him from Karachi? Mate, that is the most flat earther logic I have ever seen.
Man imad is actually my family relative, extended family actually.

The guy played his whole cricket from Islamabad region and played from shakil sheikhs islamabad diamond club and was backed by sheikh..


Its really funny the stuff some fans come up with. Making him a karachite lol
 
Man imad is actually my family relative, extended family actually.

The guy played his whole cricket from Islamabad region and played from shakil sheikhs islamabad diamond club and was backed by sheikh..


Its really funny the stuff some fans come up with. Making him a karachite lol
You love misbah over your own family? Huh??? I can understand if you were indifferent cause its extended family, but you despise and loathe your family member 💀.
 
You love misbah over your own family? Huh??? I can understand if you were indifferent cause its extended family, but you despise and loathe your family member 💀.
Yeh nice try bringing in misbah to hide your own embarrassment of imad being from karachi.

Whether someone is a family member or not doesnt matter, i support based on who i see as a good cricketer from my pov and you support who you see as good cricketer from your pov.

Everyone has their own pov, which should be respected and argument should be around that. Not that if i critisize some player who bring in some xyz
 
Yeh nice try bringing in misbah to hide your own embarrassment of imad being from karachi.

Whether someone is a family member or not doesnt matter, i support based on who i see as a good cricketer from my pov and you support who you see as good cricketer from your pov.

Everyone has their own pov, which should be respected and argument should be around that. Not that if i critisize some player who bring in some xyz
I said he played from karachi Kings lol, regardless,

Bro, I don't mind respecting Points of Views, but I've seem you get insanely aggressive with indian posters often making entire threads to spite them and just get aggressive in general with pakistani posters. You're not any different from the people who you claim bully you or adopt a bully culture.

You'll get respect if you give respect, but if many comments are akin to what pakengfan claim or comments such as Haha win a tournament first and have a mockery attitude towards them, you can't expect someone else to just say Okay sir.

They will fight back and obviously won't respect that opinion of adhominem if you will.

Even now, In this very comment You're words " Nice try" , that doesn't sound like a respected counter argument.

The tone of an argument how aggressive it is or how calm it is, is usually set by how people respond and in what manner they respond. Just remember that.
 
Amir and Imad playing under Babar’s captaincy now would be the ultimate humiliation for them.

If Babar is reinstated as captain, which would be the correct decision, these two losers should take their retirement back and to protect themselves from the embarrassment & trolling that they will be subjected to.


Off topic, should it be take their retirement back or take their retirement back, back?

They already took their retirement back when they came back to play for national team. Now they have to take back their decision to unretire to retire again.

Retire again solves the above conundrum. But that would be too easy.
 
Remember when they made Shan ODI VC and Babar benched him?

Now they brought back Imad to much fanfare and Babar kept him benched too.

People got to learn to fall in line.

Babar has outlasted PMs, CMs, Chairmen, new captains, selection committees, foreign coaches and local coaches.

Eventually they learn that Babar is unmovable.
 
Babar got reappointed captain due to Peshawar connections and to naqvi just to let you know.

@Rana figured it out against Mamoon.

I said represent as a cricket nation, never mentioned ethnicity. Edit: Just realised I used the word Born, My bad.
Peshawar connections? Peshawar is PTI area, there is no one in federal from PTI. PCB comes under Federal not KPK.

First the Imad belonging from Karachi and this lol.
 
Remember when they made Shan ODI VC and Babar benched him?

Now they brought back Imad to much fanfare and Babar kept him benched too.

People got to learn to fall in line.

Babar has outlasted PMs, CMs, Chairmen, new captains, selection committees, foreign coaches and local coaches.

Eventually they learn that Babar is unmovable.
Calm down mate.

Imad isn’t being purposely benched because Babar is playing politics. He is probably injured. The guy didn’t even participate in the Kakul rigorous training activities like the others.

IMO the management are doing the right thing by just keeping Imad and Amir in the squad and not really playing them. Just ensure they are in rhythm and deploy them directly into the World Cup if you can.
 
Peshawar connections? Peshawar is PTI area, there is no one in federal from PTI. PCB comes under Federal not KPK.

First the Imad belonging from Karachi and this lol.
Did imad play and captain KK yes or no? Does babar not get captaincy after repeated failures? Yes or no?
 
Did imad play and captain KK yes or no? Does babar not get captaincy after repeated failures? Yes or no?
so being the captain of a psl team automatically means you are born there and have a domicile there and have political connections of that area.

You keep digging yourself a grave here. First Imad being from Karachi and now Babar using political connections from an area which is not in federal and is at conflict with the establishment.

Establishment was nice enough to listen to PTI's one request, Kay yar Babar ko captain bana dou

:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
so being the captain of a psl team automatically means you are born there and have a domicile there and have political connections of that area.

You keep digging yourself a grave here. First Imad being from Karachi and now Babar using political connections from an area which is not in federal and is at conflict with the establishment.

Establishment was nice enough to listen to PTI's one request, Kay yar Babar ko captain bana dou

:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
Nope, I said he was born in Swansea and represented karachi Kings for a while. He's your family member that you despise, come on bro, know your family history.

Babar has political connections, 100%, no captain after being a joke would get reappointed. Peshawar is involved like it or not.
 
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