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How can India recover from the humiliating ICC ODI World Cup 2023 final loss?

MMHS said:
Was this humiliation really? They lost to the best team in the world - more than that the team with momentum.

But yes, recovery will be tough - not only mentally but player for player, next WC India will be mushing at least 5/6 of their best ODI players ever - Kohli, Sharma, Bumrah, Shami, Jadeja, Ashwin…. Probably Siraj & KL as well. It’ll not be easy / they’ll dominate weaker teams just like now, but not against full strength Australia, SAF, England or New Zeeland.

Might struggle to make SF in SAF in 4 years … India will get world class batsmen, but replacing Kohli & Sharma …. But, more than batting, those 20 overs of Bumrah & Shami are priceless.
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Agree. I feel they won't get another bumrah and kohli most likely. Shubman gill to step in kohlis shoes and be better than him?
 
ataullah said:
Agree. I feel they won't get another bumrah and kohli most likely. Shubman gill to step in kohlis shoes and be better than him?
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Jaiswal ,gill , Rituraj,pant and Kishan for batting ,many more youngsters coming through domestic
Bumrah and Siraj will be there along with prasidh Krishan ,mayank , Tyagi - they are fast bowler
Sundar ,Ravi Bishnoi, kuldeep , Axar Patel - Spinners .
So India will find proper player for next world cup.
 
sweep_shot said:
I believe they have a 5-match T20 series (against the Aussies) coming up in less than a week.

So, I expect them to move on quickly. Modern cricket is quite fast-paced.
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Next month's we are playing a full series with South Africa in South Africa ( 3 t20 ,3 odi and 2 test)
Looking forword to test series but why the hell South Africa cricket cut one test .
 
MMHS said:
Was this humiliation really? They lost to the best team in the world - more than that the team with momentum.

But yes, recovery will be tough - not only mentally but player for player, next WC India will be mushing at least 5/6 of their best ODI players ever - Kohli, Sharma, Bumrah, Shami, Jadeja, Ashwin…. Probably Siraj & KL as well. It’ll not be easy / they’ll dominate weaker teams just like now, but not against full strength Australia, SAF, England or New Zeeland.

Might struggle to make SF in SAF in 4 years … India will get world class batsmen, but replacing Kohli & Sharma …. But, more than batting, those 20 overs of Bumrah & Shami are priceless.
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Let the likes of OP get their jabs. His tea..... I mean Australia have earned it for him :rabada2 We actually lost to a quality team for a change unlike the teams we have been losing to in the last 9 years in KO's.

We will have to rebuild regardless. Kohli, Sharma, Shami - all are done.

Need to focus on white ball for a change and plan for 2027 starting now instead of planning just a year ahead.


We have the batting talent to develop a strong Top 6.

But a bowler like Shami is hard to find. Also , the attack needs a bit of variety.
 
This was, is, and will be one of the most humiliating defeats not just for India, but in the history of ODI WC!

Save the 'Indian got to the final'

1. Pitch doctoring.
2. Dubious tosses for Indian captain.
3. Denying VISAs for oppostion fans.
4. Crowd intimidation and disrespect.
5. Playing at home.
6. Direct support from GoI via Jay Shah.
7. Over confidence.
8. Presentation plan for Indian win only.
9. Internet trolls unleashed.
10. All the money in the world - richest board.
11. All the grass root systems in the world - talent galore.

The only one single saving grace was that Tendulkar witnessed his ODI century record broken, but as the ambassador of this WC, his career losing curse continued with India losing - in the final - the trend continues!

The best part? Modi upstaged on his home soil.

BCCI/GoI Orchestrating a WC was all about making life and competition easier for India, but in the end, the truth prevailed, India are chokers.

Aur khelo IPL!

😂😂😂
 
Technics 1210 said:
This was, is, and will be one of the most humiliating defeats not just for India, but in the history of ODI WC!

Save the 'Indian got to the final'

1. Pitch doctoring.
2. Dubious tosses for Indian captain.
3. Denying VISAs for oppostion fans.
4. Crowd intimidation and disrespect.
5. Playing at home.
6. Direct support from GoI via Jay Shah.
7. Over confidence.
8. Presentation plan for Indian win only.
9. Internet trolls unleashed.
10. All the money in the world - richest board.
11. All the grass root systems in the world - talent galore.

The only one single saving grace was that Tendulkar witnessed his ODI century record broken, but as the ambassador of this WC, his career losing curse continued with India losing - in the final - the trend continues!

The best part? Modi upstaged on his home soil.

BCCI/GoI Orchestrating a WC was all about making life and competition easier for India, but in the end, the truth prevailed, India are chokers.

Aur khelo IPL!

😂😂😂
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Ponting sticking the foot in with the comment about India doctoring pitches was *chef's kiss*
 
Oh I should add, this loss for India was an utter humiliation for so call "We want the best for Pakistan" fans who were relishing Pakistan loses while celebrating India's wins, in particular over Pakistan!

I have changed my opinion, 2023 WC is one of the best ever!

:LOL: :LOL: :LOL:
 
DeadlyVenom said:
They won't recover from this. It's the end.

When you pull every trick in the book and still dont win then you know its time to give up.
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Truth. This was their best chance. No weaknesses on paper in batting or bowling.

But paper doesn’t factor in Qadr and mental toughness.
 
India will never recover from this. India still has not recovered from the 2003 WC final loss, and I will not even mention the CT17 final.

100s of Millions of Indian fans today - emotionally and psychologically scarred for life.
 
It was a bad loss. But not humiliating. India were the best team in the tournament until today.
The team balance was not correct and it was waiting for someone to come and expose them. No team was able to do it until today by Aus. But it was the finals unfortunately and there are no second chances in finals.

Australia are a darn tough team and they played like champions. India will have to address the team balance issue soon. You cannot win major tournaments without major world class all rounders.
 
English media in on the act (DT) 🤣🤣🤣

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It was supposed to be a coronation, with the Prime Minister handing the trophy to a nation’s heroes. But instead, India froze and Australia claimed the greatest World Cup triumph.

Australia won their sixth World Cup by out-playing and out-maneuvering India, stunning a crowd of 92,000 and spoiling a priceless photo opportunity for Narendra Modi, who ended up presenting the trophy to Pat Cummins in a half empty stadium.

Virat Kohli’s runs and records, more in a World Cup than anyone ever before, the 10 wins in a row, Mohammamd Shami’s 24 wickets, all the pitch antics and the advantages tilted towards India came to absolutely zilch.

www.telegraph.co.uk

India vs Australia result: Travis Head leads Aussies to Cricket World Cup final victory

It was supposed to be a coronation, with the Prime Minister handing the trophy to a nation’s heroes.
www.telegraph.co.uk www.telegraph.co.uk
 
Devadwal said:
Jaiswal ,gill , Rituraj,pant and Kishan for batting ,many more youngsters coming through domestic
Bumrah and Siraj will be there along with prasidh Krishan ,mayank , Tyagi - they are fast bowler
Sundar ,Ravi Bishnoi, kuldeep , Axar Patel - Spinners .
So India will find proper player for next world cup.
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Bumrah will be past his prime cometh the next 50 over CWC..wont be as much threatening and he is prone to injuries as well. do not forget he has to play 4 ipl seasons before next wc.. Siraj is mere shadow of Bumrah in terms of quality ..All the batting talent you are mentioning ..none of them can ever be as good as Kohli or Rohit..India has consistently played cwc knockouts because of these two legendary batsmen coming good in league stages...and it is highly unlikely that anyone else from India matching it in future
 
It will be very difficult to recover from this. This is probably even worse than the beating they took from Pakistan in the final of the 2017 Champion’s Trophy.

This whole tournament was designed to be a coronation. They scheduled the match against Pakistan in Narendra Modi stadium where fans yelled “Jai Shri Ram” at Rizwan because why? Because Rizwan is a practicing Muslim? Then they scheduled the final of the World Cup in the same location and had the prime minister the stadium is named after in attendance. Don’t forget all the other things they included such as the fly over show in the beginning of the match.

And then, despite the hostile crowd, the last minute pitch changes, and the entire program being created to highlight the Indian cricket team, they all failed and choked in the absolutely worst possible way when it mattered the most. Nothing saved them. Not the absolute domination they exhibited in the group matches. Not finally getting past, a badly injured, New Zealand side. Not Kohli selfishly going to his 50th century even though it reduced the score the team ultimately scored.

At the end of the day, they had all these supposed “legends.” Bumrah was supposed to be as good Wasim Akram. Kohli was supposed to he the greatest ODI batsmen of all time. The crown was supposed to be passed from Kohli to Gill. This was supposedly a team as great as the legendary West Indies side and the legendary Australian side. The entire side was crushed by a batsmen who just rejoined the side after a broken hand - Travis Head.

What was supposed to be a team coronated as a legendary side will now be remembered as group stage and bilateral series bullies who managed to win absolutely nothing of substance.
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
Bumrah will be past his prime cometh the next 50 over CWC..wont be as much threatening and he is prone to injuries as well. do not forget he has to play 4 ipl seasons before next wc.. Siraj is mere shadow of Bumrah in terms of quality ..All the batting talent you are mentioning ..none of them can ever be as good as Kohli or Rohit..India has consistently played cwc knockouts because of these two legendary batsmen coming good in league stages...and it is highly unlikely that anyone else from India matching it in future
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Yes Indian cricket won't produce a stronger line up than this. They had everything going their way. Pain must be unbelievable.
 
Fact of the matter is, you can have your self proclaimed GOATs but when it really mattered not one Indian player stepped up to lead the team to the win.

For us, Cummins was outstanding in the final. Top class leadership and bowling and led from the front. Not one Indian players matched that level on the biggest stage so the humiliation is tenfold.
 
Technics 1210 said:
India will never recover from this. India still has not recovered from the 2003 WC final loss, and I will not even mention the CT17 final.

100s of Millions of Indian fans today - emotionally and psychologically scarred for life.
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So, India never recovered from 2003 final and still went on to win 2007 World T20 and 2011 World Cup?

Cool. Looks like some good times ahead :)
 
In a week people will forget it.

The next series starts on 23rd. Barely 3 days remaining.
 
GLORY OF '92 said:
Yes Indian cricket won't produce a stronger line up than this. They had everything going their way. Pain must be unbelievable.
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At least one Pakistani realises this.

This defeat is as painful as it gets for an Indian supporter. This was their World Cup for the taking.

I also think its an overall horrible day for the sport of cricket.

There are many people trolling Indian fans, but people just need to stop. This is like Pakistan facing that 1999 World Cup final loss in a 100,000 Gaddafi Stadium crowd, if that happened I doubt hardly anyone would be able to talk much

But anyways, I don't think anyone who is reading this will care...
 
The same way they recovered from 36 all out to win a series vs Australia in Australia.

The more pertinent question is

When is the next time Pakistan will get thrashed and then look to see India getting thrashed so a similar thread can be made again?
 
Bilal Ahmad15 said:
At least one Pakistani realises this.

This defeat is as painful as it gets for an Indian supporter. This was their World Cup for the taking.

I also think its an overall horrible day for the sport of cricket.

There are many people trolling Indian fans, but people just need to stop. This is like Pakistan facing that 1999 World Cup final loss in a 100,000 Gaddafi Stadium crowd, if that happened I doubt hardly anyone would be able to talk much

But anyways, I don't think anyone who is reading this will care...
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Bilal Ahmad15 said:
At least one Pakistani realises this.

This defeat is as painful as it gets for an Indian supporter. This was their World Cup for the taking.

I also think its an overall horrible day for the sport of cricket.

There are many people trolling Indian fans, but people just need to stop. This is like Pakistan facing that 1999 World Cup final loss in a 100,000 Gaddafi Stadium crowd, if that happened I doubt hardly anyone would be able to talk much

But anyways, I don't think anyone who is reading this will care...
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I don't know why it should be a bad day for the cricket world. Australia were the better team and won the game fairly. The arrogance just went to the home team's head, that's why everyone is having fun here.
 
Azadoo76 said:
I don't know why it should be a bad day for the cricket world. Australia were the better team and won the game fairly. The arrogance just went to the home team's head, that's why everyone is having fun here.
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I have my reason for saying why this result is bad for cricket, but I wont explain about it here, I might make a thread about it
 
Dr_Bassim said:
The same way they recovered from 36 all out to win a series vs Australia in Australia.

The more pertinent question is

When is the next time Pakistan will get thrashed and then look to see India getting thrashed so a similar thread can be made again?
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Next month in Australia where 0-3 is a given :srini
 
Two great teams met in the finals. Aussies won this round but India did really well in all the matches except the finals.
Both teams are destined for further glory based on the form and recent successes.
Proud of our boys - great team. great teamwork.
 
Azadoo76 said:
I don't know why it should be a bad day for the cricket world. Australia were the better team and won the game fairly. The arrogance just went to the home team's head, that's why everyone is having fun here.
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I don't think they were arrogant. India played bold cricket throughout and fans being appreciative cant be called arrogance. Everyone knows aussies read the pitch better and executed bowling plans and fielding placements better.
 
Savak said:
They act that way. Deep down they must be 😂🤣 all the way to the bank.
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No one feels bad for any team except their own.
It is only when their own barrel is empty people start looking for scraps elsewhere
 
So how will we recover from this ?

We will recover by watching the Pakistan tour of Australia:ROFLMAO:

Just joking btw. This one is going to hurt for sometime.....
 
Honestly, India need to start their new cycle now.

Clean out of players who won't be playing next WC and start preparing for 2027 now with the new generation. The more time they get to play and management to evaluate these players the better it will be for India.
 
sweep_shot said:
I believe they have a 5-match T20 series (against the Aussies) coming up in less than a week.

So, I expect them to move on quickly. Modern cricket is quite fast-paced.
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India will beat up on a Matthew Wade captained side and tell themselves the world cup was a blip.
 
Aman said:
Honestly, India need to start their new cycle now.

Clean out of players who won't be playing next WC and start preparing for 2027 now with the new generation. The more time they get to play and management to evaluate these players the better it will be for India.
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India - and in fairness most teams - are not capable of this.

Players should always play to win no matter what. Selectors however should accept the risk of losing ultimately meaningless bilaterals and instead take the opportunities to build a squad.
In between world cups, India select to win every match. In between world cups, Australia select to build a squad to win the next world cup - if we lose because the selectors aren't good enough - the information or experience we gained about that player was worth it.

Cummins has played what 10 games in the two years before this world cup?
Hazlewood has been playing ODI cricket for a decade and is a dual world cup winner and has played what 90 games?

The only team to follow this approach was England after 2015 and see how that went.
 
Convict said:
India - and in fairness most teams - are not capable of this.

Players should always play to win no matter what. Selectors however should accept the risk of losing ultimately meaningless bilaterals and instead take the opportunities to build a squad.
In between world cups, India select to win every match. In between world cups, Australia select to build a squad to win the next world cup - if we lose because the selectors aren't good enough - the information or experience we gained about that player was worth it.

Cummins has played what 10 games in the two years before this world cup?
Hazlewood has been playing ODI cricket for a decade and is a dual world cup winner and has played what 90 games?

The only team to follow this approach was England after 2015 and see how that went.
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England won a World Cup in 2019 with that approach.
 
Convict said:
India - and in fairness most teams - are not capable of this.

Players should always play to win no matter what. Selectors however should accept the risk of losing ultimately meaningless bilaterals and instead take the opportunities to build a squad.
In between world cups, India select to win every match. In between world cups, Australia select to build a squad to win the next world cup - if we lose because the selectors aren't good enough - the information or experience we gained about that player was worth it.

Cummins has played what 10 games in the two years before this world cup?
Hazlewood has been playing ODI cricket for a decade and is a dual world cup winner and has played what 90 games?

The only team to follow this approach was England after 2015 and see how that went.
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Been a long time mate. Congrats on the sick win.

Where do you think it ranks in Aussie cricket history?
 
Aman said:
Been a long time mate. Congrats on the sick win.

Where do you think it ranks in Aussie cricket history?
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It's hard to contextualise it yet. All the world cups wins are highs but this probably ranks 5th in them which is slightly unfair but you can't separate 1999, 2003 and 2007 from the combined achievement of winning back to back to back world cups. And for what it meant for cricket in Australia and coming back from our dark age, the 1987 world cup is number 1.

For Australian cricket achievements over the last decade it is probably second to the 2013/14 Mitchell Johnson Ashes.

It is a rather impressive achievement from a team that on paper just looks like a good decent team. But cricket obviously isn't played on paper.
 
How can they recover ? They can't.

Aus took away both the WTC and WC from India. Travis Head is our daddy.
 
Convict said:
Exactly. Then rested on their laurels and just assumed that it would continue 4 years later.
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That part was wrong obviously. But it's a myth that Australia do well in World Cups when they don't have a strong bilateral record. 2019 was Australia going in with too many bilateral series losses and they couldn't do it in the actual tournament

Every time they go in to a tournament, they have enough wins and have players who have played quite a bit of ODI cricket in the 4 year cycle - this time Warner, Smith, Marnus , Zampa, Marsh, Starc had played enough ODI cricket between World Cups, especially considering Covid and the decline of bilateral ODIs in general.

That's half the first XI. What England did in the previous cycle is what Australia had been doing better than every other team , consciously or not, for the past 30 years.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
That part was wrong obviously. But it's a myth that Australia do well in World Cups when they don't have a strong bilateral record. 2019 was Australia going in with too many bilateral series losses and they couldn't do it in the actual tournament

Every time they go in to a tournament, they have enough wins and have players who have played quite a bit of ODI cricket in the 4 year cycle - this time Warner, Smith, Marnus , Zampa, Marsh, Starc had played enough ODI cricket between World Cups, especially considering Covid and the decline of bilateral ODIs in general.

That's half the first XI. What England did in the previous cycle is what Australia had been doing better than every other team , consciously or not, for the past 30 years.
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2018 and 2019 in particular were not good years for Australian cricket. We failed to build a good squad (just look at what was selected) and inevitably failed when it mattered.
It doesn't help that Australian cricket was all twisted up over self inflicted wounds due to sandpaper and lost a lot of focus. En

I never said that Australia do not have a strong bilateral record. Every selected XI does its best to win and any player in contention for selection is of a reasonable standard.
But the selectors focus is on building a squad - and we try a lot of different things in between world cups - some work, just as many don't.
 
The OP asks a good question, tbh.

I don't see how India can recover, either.

The one hope is for them to learn from the best - Pakistan. They do a good job of recovering from one mauling after another especially at the hands of India after hyping themselves for months in the build-up. Follow the best, Team India.
 
Convict said:
It's hard to contextualise it yet. All the world cups wins are highs but this probably ranks 5th in them which is slightly unfair but you can't separate 1999, 2003 and 2007 from the combined achievement of winning back to back to back world cups. And for what it meant for cricket in Australia and coming back from our dark age, the 1987 world cup is number 1.

For Australian cricket achievements over the last decade it is probably second to the 2013/14 Mitchell Johnson Ashes.

It is a rather impressive achievement from a team that on paper just looks like a good decent team. But cricket obviously isn't played on paper.
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More so about the odds against you with India on a great run with players peaking, hostile crowd and the pitch controversy with reports the Indian team had asked for a slow pitch,
 
Aman said:
More so about the odds against you with India on a great run with players peaking, hostile crowd and the pitch controversy with reports the Indian team had asked for a slow pitch,
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My view is that you can't separate 1999-2003-2007 from each other when looking at the context of Australian cricket achievements.
And 1987 is a great moment in Australian cricket history as it was the first real step out of our worst ever period.

This win is a great achievement by the team.
 
India always revovers and come back strongly. This time also they will bounce back.
But would love to see players like ruturaj, jaiswal getting chance as our batting greats are nearing the end of their careers. Also india must focus on some all rounders n groom them.
 
I still think the indian odi team is much better than australia's. This pitch was similar to the pitches in the early stage of the tournament where batting second was much easier. Aussies had the better conditions and India just had a bad day at the worst time possible.
 
I am still stunned that India again lost in a knockout game. They have renamed themselves as knockout chokers. They did not lose this time but were humiliated and distressed in front of a huge historic Indian crowd and the sitting PM. It must be extremely hard to forget this loss in the coming years.
 
Choke Log

1. Shubman Gill - soft dismissal
2. Iyer - owned
3. Rahul - biggest stage, biggest tuk tuk choke since Misbah mohali
4. Jadeja - choke with both bat and ball, even in the field wasn’t as good as he normally he is
5. Suryakumar - listless
6. Bumrah - for the alleged best bowler in the world, got a gift decision from Smith and fairly harmless after initial spell and choke opening over. Another final with stage set, couldn’t conjure up any magic
7. Kuldeep - no penetration

The future doesn’t look bright

Special word for Rohit and Kohli. They came out really on it, I can’t fault Rohit’s batting. He led from the front and took the risks which was his role. Kohli started off imperiously but got stuck in a rut which got him out. Rohit’s captaincy wasn’t great either. He lost his bottle introducing Siraj too late.

I wouldn’t call both of theirs a choke like the others, but not their greatest day.
 
While being on a roll, Indian team looked like a dragon spitting fire but they had 2 weakness which was asked by journos to Rahul Dravid, the 6th bowler issue and lower middle order not being tested to which Dravid gave some overconfident answers
 
Major said:
This wasnt just a win, it was an absolute choke, where the undefeated Indian side lost the final.

This will psychologically damage our neighbors who had invited the PM and every Indian dignitary to the Modi stadium.

So question is, will India recover from this humiliating loss?
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Modi. Get rid of him and the team balance will be restored.
 
Nothing changes, India will continue to rake in over a billion dollars a year…whilst others keep relying on ICC handouts

Dunya Hai
Dhanda Hai
Chalta Hai
Chalta Hai
 
India reaching the finals of a home tournament doesn't mean much.
AAli98 said:
Forget the team how is Indian commentators/presenters going to recover has someone checked on gavaskar?
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AAli98 said:
Forget the team how is Indian commentators/presenters going to recover has someone checked on gavaskar?
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This is very true - I’ll be completely honest. There’s a lot to respect about the Indian team and their players.

But their cheerleading ex players and media deserve this
 
So good to see long term PAK fans like @Major back after a short hibernation. Was nowhere to be found in the aftermath of PAK exit. At least India's loss has given some solace to PAK fans especially in PAK with extreme inflation and all that

A longer hibernation period is expected starting from next month's PAK tour of Australia
 
This loss could have a long-term effect on them in future knockout games. It's a memorable loss due to where they lost and how they lost.

You go undefeated to the final and then lose.

That can scar any team and will continue to live with them until they win because it's going to get mentioned any time they make another knockout game.
 
Marooned said:
Cope hard :rp

Your team just choked hard. Again. Serial chokers 👑
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I hope you are coping well with the loss to Afghanistan too.
'Unplayable, best bowling attack in the world' couldn't even qualify for the semis. LOL.
 
sindhiboy said:
I still think the indian odi team is much better than australia's. This pitch was similar to the pitches in the early stage of the tournament where batting second was much easier. Aussies had the better conditions and India just had a bad day at the worst time possible.
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As I said a few days ago, recovering from 91/7 to chase down 290 would gave any team immense confidence. They showed that in the knockouts.
 
Another thing that will not change,

India will continue to have the right system and structure in place to ensure that they qualify for Finals, Semi finals for ICC championships on a regular basis. Whilst others will continue to depend on rain and results/upsets of other nations in those tournaments.
 
Another thing that will not change…

India will continue to be mentally and physically strong enough to compete with the best teams in the world be it in bilaterals or ICC events….whilst others will continue to neglect their shortcomings and do what it takes to improve them in order to compete.

Others will continue to be content with their mediocrity, whilst India will continue to strive in order to improve and become good enough to win against the best.

Harsh truth.
 
Money, infrastructure, power abuse, 1.4 billion cricket crazy population.
WHO DESERVES THIS HUMILIATION ?
 
India in men's ICC events since winnning the Champions Trophy in 2013

T20 WC 2014

Runners-up

ODI WC 2015

Semi-finals

T20 WC 2016

Semi-finals

CT 2017

Runners-up

ODI WC 2019

Semi-finals

WTC 2021

Runners-up

T20 WC 2021

Super 12

T20 WC 2022

Semi-finals

WTC 2023

Runners-up

ODI WC 2023

Runners-up
 
Fans of small cricket teams can do nothing apart from finding joy and peace in other’s defeats, especially those who are and always will be better than them.

Apart from 1-2 tournaments, India have made the semifinals of every tournament in the last 20 years. This is what consistency looks like. This is what happens when you develop a high performance culture.

Consistently being ranked in the top 2-3 inside and outside tournaments is much better than fluking a tournament and then playing like a clown 90% of the time.

I would happily swap Pakistan’s fluke CT 2017 trophy with India’s consistency and success over the last 10 years.

Every single Pakistani fans, no matter how much chest-thumping they are doing, would happily swap places with India cricket.

When you know you can’t be as good as someone you have two options: accept their superiority and learn from what makes them superior or try to weigh them down and seek solace in their failures. Unfortunately, Pakistani fans have chosen the latter which sums up their mentality.

The harsh truth is that India’s so-called failures tower over Pakistan’s successes. India will keep making semifinals and finals and will eventually start sinking tournaments again too, while Pakistan will be doing hehe and haha after getting booted out of the tournaments in group stages more often than not and getting absolutely pummeled by India more often than not.
 
FearlessRoar said:
India in men's ICC events since winnning the Champions Trophy in 2013

T20 WC 2014

Runners-up

ODI WC 2015

Semi-finals

T20 WC 2016

Semi-finals

CT 2017

Runners-up

ODI WC 2019

Semi-finals

WTC 2021

Runners-up

T20 WC 2021

Super 12

T20 WC 2022

Semi-finals

WTC 2023

Runners-up

ODI WC 2023

Runners-up
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That is phenomenal. A true reflection of a world class team and I would happily take them over what any other team except England and Australia have managed in ICC tournaments in this period.
 
India has been dominant in ICC events since the 2013 Champions Trophy but has not emerged as victorious.

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This was the mother of all humiliations

You Indians did everything in your power to isolate pakistan and mistreated pakistan throughout the world cup

Every single Indian was 100 percent certain that india will win the worldcup only to get their hopes shattered

Must be a scene in narendra modi Stadium
130 thousand people crying together 🤣
 
emranabbas said:
This was the mother of all humiliations

You Indians did everything in your power to isolate pakistan and mistreated pakistan throughout the world cup

Every single Indian was 100 percent certain that india will win the worldcup only to get their hopes shattered

Must be a scene in narendra modi Stadium
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Pakistan did everything in its power to make itself a laughing stock in the World Cup.

Who told Pakistan to not win the World Cup? It would have been an epic victory after BCCI tried everything to “isolate” and “mistreat” them.
 
Mamoon said:
Pakistan did everything in its power to make itself a laughing stock in the World Cup.

Who told Pakistan to not win the World Cup? It would have been an epic victory after BCCI tried everything to “isolate” and “mistreat” them.
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Come on, man . Let's be fair. Justice as inspiration is not good enough. You need some talent to beat even Afghanistan these days.
Something Pakistan sorely lacks currently
 
Modi in his blue dress wanted to have an iconic photo, where he hands over the trophy to an Indian hero.

Instead, he had to give it to Cummins, and it was hilarious the way he tried to make a run for from the podium
 
Mamoon said:
Pakistan did everything in its power to make itself a laughing stock in the World Cup.

Who told Pakistan to not win the World Cup? It would have been an epic victory after BCCI tried everything to “isolate” and “mistreat” them.
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I don't think pakistan has become a laughing stock at all in the cricketing world, just maybe in India where your friends will laugh at pakistan regardless. If their isn't anything to laugh about your friends will create something just so they could laugh at pakistan


Nobody expected pakistan to reach the finals we only were only hoping we reach the semis and then finals but India have been chest thumping and were 100 percent certain they would win it but despite having everything in their power and all the fiddling they have done they still couldn't win it. That's pure humiliation


Let's not forget the billion doller industry and the IPL that you go on about what use is it? If you can't win a tournament,

The way you hype up India they should be winning every single tournament.
 
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