How can India recover from the humiliating ICC ODI World Cup 2023 final loss?

they have a contract to hold every alternate world cup
one of them they will surely win
maybe a bit more pitch tampering next time
 
I know this is a feel good thread from @Major after hyping his no.1 team for months & months only to see it getting humiliated by India twice in a big stage by 229 runs and 36/8 respectively and also losing to Afghanistan in the process. However there was nothing humiliating about this loss of India. This Indian team was by far the best and most consistent team in the tournament and only got beaten by a better side on the day. Looks like fans of a certain team has faced so many humiliating defeats in recent past that they forgot to distinguish it against a respectable loss. It is unfortunate that we got crashed at the final hurdle but this Indian team can absolutely hold their head high. We will breach that final hurdle in CT 2025 in Gaddafi Stadium god willing.
 
I know this is a feel good thread from @Major after hyping his no.1 team for months & months only to see it getting humiliated by India twice in a big stage by 229 runs and 36/8 respectively and also losing to Afghanistan in the process. However there was nothing humiliating about this loss of India. This Indian team was by far the best and most consistent team in the tournament and only got beaten by a better side on the day. Looks like fans of a certain team has faced so many humiliating defeats in recent past that they forgot to distinguish it against a respectable loss. It is unfortunate that we got crashed at the final hurdle but this Indian team can absolutely hold their head high. We will breach that final hurdle in CT 2025 in Gaddafi Stadium god willing.
India winning CT 2025 in gaddafi stadium maybe in EA cricket 2005 on playstation 2.
the indian govt wont let the team come to pak
 
That is phenomenal. A true reflection of a world class team and I would happily take them over what any other team except England and Australia have managed in ICC tournaments in this period.
Agreed phenomenal level of choking even SA are not capable of achieving such a prestigious award in choking.
 
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From being bossed/bullied by the Australian team of 1999-2007,

To completely turn it around and become a nation that regularly competes at the highest level in the past two decades.

Well done. Keep going. You will get over the line and you will reap the rewards of your efforts one day.
 
Growing up, watching Australia regularly boss/dominate/bully south Asian cricket teams in world cricket made me always want someone to step up from South Asia and challenge this might of the Australian cricket fraternity.

India did it. India stepped up. India lead the way and showed that it can be done if you have the cojones to do it.

They deserve respect, not ridicule from those who don’t have the guts to do what they have!
 
Another thing that will not change,

India will continue to have the right system and structure in place to ensure that they qualify for Finals, Semi finals for ICC championships on a regular basis. Whilst others will continue to depend on rain and results/upsets of other nations in those tournaments.

Choro yaar.

Who are you trying to teach?

Most of the people on this forum were hidden and waiting for India to fail so they can somehow feel good.

Reminds me of a tale in my youth.

We had a grade 5 bully when I was in 2nd grade and he used fo bully all the kids.

One day he was beaten up by a Grade 8 bully and everyone was screaming, clapping and cheering for grade 8 bully.

It was then my teacher stopped me and said you cannot feel good about someone else doing something for you.

If the bully was troubling you, you should have united together and made a change among yourselevs so he wouldnt bully you.

By letting someone else control your emotions, you are still in the same place.

Weak and inefficient.

I walked out of class that day and have never let others control my thinking again.

Inko khush rehny du.

Their level is just this.

We have other things to think about.
 
they have a contract to hold every alternate world cup
one of them they will surely win
maybe a bit more pitch tampering next time
I am expecting changes in WC format very soon. IPL like playoffs taking into account the choking propensity of the most highly paid cricketers in the world.
And if that doesn't work then every WC can be organised in India with desi pitch curators
 
India winning CT 2025 in gaddafi stadium maybe in EA cricket 2005 on playstation 2.
the indian govt wont let the team come to pak

Think for ICC trophy an exception will be made under sports quota. I have a feeling ICT will travel to Pakistan for Champions Trophy 2025.

Regarding cricket, Indian players have always enjoyed Pakistani pitches...2004, 2006 series are all fond memories. Those flat decks are exactly what our players need. That is why I said we will lift the trophy in Gaddafi Stadium in CT 2025 if all goes well. I have no hope for T20 WC next year though as T20 cricket does not suit India and neither I consider it as proper cricket.
 
So, India never recovered from 2003 final and still went on to win 2007 World T20 and 2011 World Cup?

Cool. Looks like some good times ahead :)

No India never recovered from the 2003 final this is why all the Indian commies and shows kept referring to 2023 Final as the revenge final.

I mean if India had not recovered from 2003, why call it a revenge?

Now, not only Ponting's century in 2003 will haunt India, so too will Head's 137! :LOL:

Still, India's biggest rival is Australia - or so the myth goes. . . . .
 
Choro yaar.

Who are you trying to teach?

Most of the people on this forum were hidden and waiting for India to fail so they can somehow feel good.

Reminds me of a tale in my youth.

We had a grade 5 bully when I was in 2nd grade and he used fo bully all the kids.

One day he was beaten up by a Grade 8 bully and everyone was screaming, clapping and cheering for grade 8 bully.

It was then my teacher stopped me and said you cannot feel good about someone else doing something for you.

If the bully was troubling you, you should have united together and made a change among yourselevs so he wouldnt bully you.

By letting someone else control your emotions, you are still in the same place.

Weak and inefficient.

I walked out of class that day and have never let others control my thinking again.

Inko khush rehny du.

Their level is just this.

We have other things to think about.
Hmmm interesting.

So I assume you are angry that others are letting their emotions being controlled?
 
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Growing up, watching Australia regularly boss/dominate/bully south Asian cricket teams in world cricket made me always want someone to step up from South Asia and challenge this might of the Australian cricket fraternity.

India did it. India stepped up. India lead the way and showed that it can be done if you have the cojones to do it.

They deserve respect, not ridicule from those who don’t have the guts to do what they have!
Cojones this cojones that :)

How many cojones did it exactly take to choke on the biggest stage in their home.
 
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Hmmm interesting.

So I assume you are angry that others are letting their emotions being controlled?

Are you a zen master or something? :)
The irony in that post. Poor Pakistanis are also crying because India lost. We never see the same energy from these posters for our country.

Any self respecting Pakistani wouldn't have been supporting India yesterday.
 
Hmmm interesting.

So I assume you are angry that others are letting their emotions being controlled?

Are you a zen master or something? :)

To be frank, I tend to keep my emotions in check even when Pakistan is winning or losing.

I am not angry at all.

Everyone has a right to celebrate mediocre thoughts and mediocrity.

Keep going.

This post clearly wasnt for you.
 
To be frank, I tend to keep my emotions in check even when Pakistan is winning or losing.

I am not angry at all.

Everyone has a right to celebrate mediocre thoughts and mediocrity.

Keep going.

This post clearly wasnt for you.
Too much pretentiousness to take in one go. I'll take a small break and read the rest of it :)
 
The irony in that post. Poor Pakistanis are also crying because India lost. We never see the same energy from these posters for our country.

Any self respecting Pakistani wouldn't have been supporting India yesterday.
Lol exactly.

Pakistan fans like these ones truely have no self respect. They write romantic odes for a rival team, they indulge in unrequited love expeditions for India and are just desperate to be accepted.

This is the story from Pakistani youtubers to former players to fans.

That's why Pakistan cricket is where it is. Zero self respect
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This will take some time. You cant compare this with 2003. During 2003 everyone knew Aus would win. Here it was like a sort of upset if Aus would win (not really sure it that makes sense). Imagine all the people yesterday in the stadium, this loss will hurt them for a long, long time.
 
We will breach that final hurdle in CT 2025 in Gaddafi Stadium god willing.

Champions Trophy is a trophy that nobody remembers, tis all aobut the world cups. You can wait for another 4 years.
 
The irony in that post. Poor Pakistanis are also crying because India lost. We never see the same energy from these posters for our country.

Any self respecting Pakistani wouldn't have been supporting India yesterday.
Nailed it.

It seems some Pakistanis are more upset on PP than Indians losing the WC final.
 
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Choro yaar.

Who are you trying to teach?

Most of the people on this forum were hidden and waiting for India to fail so they can somehow feel good.

Reminds me of a tale in my youth.

We had a grade 5 bully when I was in 2nd grade and he used fo bully all the kids.

One day he was beaten up by a Grade 8 bully and everyone was screaming, clapping and cheering for grade 8 bully.

It was then my teacher stopped me and said you cannot feel good about someone else doing something for you.

If the bully was troubling you, you should have united together and made a change among yourselevs so he wouldnt bully you.

By letting someone else control your emotions, you are still in the same place.

Weak and inefficient.

I walked out of class that day and have never let others control my thinking again.

Inko khush rehny du.

Their level is just this.

We have other things to think about.
Absolutely spot on!
You have other things to think about.
The forthcoming humiliation in Australia being one of them.
 
Choro yaar.

Who are you trying to teach?

Most of the people on this forum were hidden and waiting for India to fail so they can somehow feel good.

Reminds me of a tale in my youth.

We had a grade 5 bully when I was in 2nd grade and he used fo bully all the kids.

One day he was beaten up by a Grade 8 bully and everyone was screaming, clapping and cheering for grade 8 bully.

It was then my teacher stopped me and said you cannot feel good about someone else doing something for you.

If the bully was troubling you, you should have united together and made a change among yourselevs so he wouldnt bully you.

By letting someone else control your emotions, you are still in the same place.

Weak and inefficient.

I walked out of class that day and have never let others control my thinking again.

Inko khush rehny du.

Their level is just this.

We have other things to think about.

This idea that you can't laugh at rivals for losing is absurd, if Australia had lost do you think England fans would have been lenient?
 
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To answer the post. They'll recover quite easily as they now have a decent system in place that works for them. We are in no position to worry about them. We should be looking at these teams and trying to fix our own system but a board run by politicians who live in 1999 will never succeed.
 
Lol exactly.

Pakistan fans like these ones truely have no self respect. They write romantic odes for a rival team, they indulge in unrequited love expeditions for India and are just desperate to be accepted.

This is the story from Pakistani youtubers to former players to fans.

That's why Pakistan cricket is where it is. Zero self respect
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Feel bad for such people they have to look outside their country to get approval from their rivals. Such fans are not Pakistani fans no matter how many essays they write in explanation.

Take Kohli’s 50 yesterday. The same posters who are going gaga over it are the same posters who will be criticising if a Pakistani batsmen played it. It would have been along the lines soft runs, impact less runs, got out when the going got tough choked etc.
 
I know this is a feel good thread from @Major after hyping his no.1 team for months & months only to see it getting humiliated by India twice in a big stage by 229 runs and 36/8 respectively and also losing to Afghanistan in the process. However there was nothing humiliating about this loss of India. This Indian team was by far the best and most consistent team in the tournament and only got beaten by a better side on the day. Looks like fans of a certain team has faced so many humiliating defeats in recent past that they forgot to distinguish it against a respectable loss. It is unfortunate that we got crashed at the final hurdle but this Indian team can absolutely hold their head high. We will breach that final hurdle in CT 2025 in Gaddafi Stadium god willing.
if only you said this when @Devadwal made a something similar thread.

but, i get it, its ok if an indian does it.

Anyways, some countries hold ICC titles, some dont.
 
You resorted to a made up story because you are upset that Pakistani's are happy that India lost?

Did you have any made up tales of bullying when Indians mocked Pakistan for getting knocked out?

This idea that you can't laugh at rivals for losing is absurd, if Australia had lost do you think England fans would have been lenient?
They have other things to think about.

In other words they want to get the topic back onto Rizwan lol
 
if only you said this when @Devadwal made a something similar thread.

but, i get it, its ok if an indian does it.

Anyways, some countries hold ICC titles, some dont.

@Devadwal it makes sense losing an ODI (that lasts only for 300 balls) by 229 runs is utterly humiliating, especially for a ranked 1 ODI team. Pakistan was everyone's favourite going into the Asia cup but that defeat against India changed everything. They subsequently went onto lose by India again and Afghanistan in world cup, crashed out in group stages and sacked their captain/coaching staff/selectors. So that thread absolutely made sense and OP got vindicated. However India's defeat in finals of a world cup was anything but humiliating. They just got beaten by a better side on the day. You intention of drawing parallel with that thread itself is humiliating.
 
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@Devadwal it makes sense losing an ODI (that lasts only for 300 balls) by 229 runs is utterly humiliating, especially for a ranked 1 ODI team. Pakistan was everyone's favourite going into the Asia cup but that defeat against India changed everything. They subsequently went onto lose by India again and Afghanistan in world cup, crashed out in group stages and sacked their captain/coaching staff/selectors. So that thread absolutely made sense and OP got vindicated. However India's defeat in finals of a world cup was anything but humiliating. They just got beaten by a better side on the day. You intention of drawing parallel with that thread itself is humiliating.
so losing another final and winning runner up medals is not humiliating for India?

Congrats on the runner up medals for the last 10 years
 
I keep saying they should rename the stadium in ahmedabad to runners up stadium.
 
so losing another final and winning runner up medals is not humiliating for India?

Congrats on the runner up medals for the last 10 years

No it is not humiliating at all. Indian team has played brilliant cricket throughout the tournament and were easily the most consistent team. They only lost to a better team on the day. Lets be honest, you are also aware of this and admitted to have only created this thread bcoz you couldn't digest @Devadwal 's thread.

Indian cricket is miles ahead of Pakistan as proven by recent encounters. Don't worry about we have not won any ICC trophy for 10 years as it will come sooner or later. Atleast we are reaching finals regularly - WTC finals, WC finals etc. Pls focus on your team
 
No it is not humiliating at all. Indian team has played brilliant cricket throughout the tournament and were easily the most consistent team. They only lost to a better team on the day. Lets be honest, you are also aware of this and admitted to have only created this thread bcoz you couldn't digest @Devadwal 's thread.

Indian cricket is miles ahead of Pakistan as proven by recent encounters. Don't worry about we have not won any ICC trophy for 10 years as it will come sooner or later. Atleast we are reaching finals regularly - WTC finals, WC finals etc. Pls focus on your team
they might be miles ahead of us, but the fact is, we hold an ICC title and the ones that are miles ahead dont.

Sooner or later? 10 years is a very long time espeically when you write about being miles ahead.
 
No it is not humiliating at all. Indian team has played brilliant cricket throughout the tournament and were easily the most consistent team. They only lost to a better team on the day. Lets be honest, you are also aware of this and admitted to have only created this thread bcoz you couldn't digest @Devadwal 's thread.

Indian cricket is miles ahead of Pakistan as proven by recent encounters. Don't worry about we have not won any ICC trophy for 10 years as it will come sooner or later. Atleast we are reaching finals regularly - WTC finals, WC finals etc. Pls focus on your team
I am told there is a concept in Hinduism called Karma. I think Karma may have a huge part to play here. Perhaps Indian Board should focus on its cricket and not interefere with the rights of Pakistan as a cricket host and a respect it as a cricketing nation and fulfill its committment as a full ICC member to other ICC members. Unless the leadership of the sport in India is morally and ethically unambiguous, this Karma concept will keep coming back to haunt their team.

They should simply develop the sport in their country and encourage the development and progress of the sport in other nations rather than using strong arm tactics to stunt other nations based on business or political decisions. If their board spent as much time trying to improve the sport and their team, I am sure they would have more silverware to show for their efforts by now.
 
Fans of small cricket teams can do nothing apart from finding joy and peace in other’s defeats, especially those who are and always will be better than them.

Apart from 1-2 tournaments, India have made the semifinals of every tournament in the last 20 years. This is what consistency looks like. This is what happens when you develop a high performance culture.

Consistently being ranked in the top 2-3 inside and outside tournaments is much better than fluking a tournament and then playing like a clown 90% of the time.

I would happily swap Pakistan’s fluke CT 2017 trophy with India’s consistency and success over the last 10 years.

Every single Pakistani fans, no matter how much chest-thumping they are doing, would happily swap places with India cricket.

When you know you can’t be as good as someone you have two options: accept their superiority and learn from what makes them superior or try to weigh them down and seek solace in their failures. Unfortunately, Pakistani fans have chosen the latter which sums up their mentality.

The harsh truth is that India’s so-called failures tower over Pakistan’s successes. India will keep making semifinals and finals and will eventually start sinking tournaments again too, while Pakistan will be doing hehe and haha after getting booted out of the tournaments in group stages more often than not and getting absolutely pummeled by India more often than not.
Majority of Pakistanis know that Indian cricket is better than Pakistan. But Indian Cricket being so mighty still cant tolerate not so mighty cricket faternity like Pakistan. Trolling fans are one thing..but their ex cricketers cannot hide their happiness on losses of Pakistan. They have enough to celebrate their own victories over the years but end up dancing when Pakistan loses makes them what? petty and cheap at best? i can guarantee you , if Indian Team had come to Pakistan for Asia cup ..90% Pakistanis would have been cheering for India to win it yesterday. You do not get to bully someone and expect to have admiration for you just because you do something good. Pakistanis being happy over India's defeat is only a natural response and this has nothing do with how good they are and how bad we have been in cricket
 
Looks like a lot of Indian cricket wellwishers who went missing during India’s winning streak have come out of their closets after India’s loss. No surprises though.
Funny how some people are encouraging and guiding Indian fans on how to feel!
Yes, could have been better, but happy enough with the Runners Up medal - better than the wooden spoon you are left with, any day.
 
I am told there is a concept in Hinduism called Karma. I think Karma may have a huge part to play here. Perhaps Indian Board should focus on its cricket and not interefere with the rights of Pakistan as a cricket host and a respect it as a cricketing nation and fulfill its committment as a full ICC member to other ICC members. Unless the leadership of the sport in India is morally and ethically unambiguous, this Karma concept will keep coming back to haunt their team.

They should simply develop the sport in their country and encourage the development and progress of the sport in other nations rather than using strong arm tactics to stunt other nations based on business or political decisions. If their board spent as much time trying to improve the sport and their team, I am sure they would have more silverware to show for their efforts by now.

Some of it that you are saying makes sense as BCCI need to be more pragmatic and stop arm twisting smaller boards. Hopefully they will send the team to Pak for CT2025. However this has nothing to do with Karma and Indian cricket team's on field performance. We simply got outplayed by a better side yesterday and in WTC finals. If Karma was so strong and injustice is done against Pakistan, why is good Karma not hitting on Pakistan team?
 
We simply got outplayed by a better side yesterday and in WTC finals. That is a fact.
The other fact is since 2015 we have won almost every World cup game except 2 SF and 1 Final.
That's still a great achievement .Reaching every ODI world cup knockout ( without having to depend or NRR's and other multiple results going your way) is not bad at all.
 
Some of it that you are saying makes sense as BCCI need to be more pragmatic and stop arm twisting smaller boards. Hopefully they will send the team to Pak for CT2025. However this has nothing to do with Karma and Indian cricket team's on field performance. We simply got outplayed by a better side yesterday and in WTC finals. If Karma was so wrong and injustice is done against Pakistan, why is good Karma not hitting on Pakistan team?
Because they are at fault too. they let the others dictate terms and dont do justice to their own people. pakistan cricket is dictated by the governing party and PM and the leadership keeps changing and there is no consistency. so there is no question that our cricket is suffering because of it.

If Pakistan had strong leadership and made difficult decisions and stood by them rather than giving in to other boards, I am pretty sure our teams results on the field will reflect that strong leadership off the field.
 
The WC will only be in memory of fans until the next series. Casual Indian fans have extremely short memory. They mostly live in the moment.
 
And this is how Indian fans will recover. Not to mention the abuse some Australian players are getting from these fans on social media. :inti
 
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they might be miles ahead of us, but the fact is, we hold an ICC title and the ones that are miles ahead dont.

Sooner or later? 10 years is a very long time espeically when you write about being miles ahead.
He is confused between supporting England and India.
 
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After seeing some of the videos on Youtube, it is clear that some of the players will never recover! At least half the Indian team will be excluded in the next WC in SA - and said players will go to sleep every night for the rest of their lives thinking how they missed out such an easy opportunity to win the WC, that too at home!

For me, seeing Kohli ignore his childhood superstar Tendulkar (no handshake or words), blanking Jay Shah, and walking past Shastri (no post award interview) - was the ultimate summation of a dishonourable discharge!
 
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Let’s be honest - no matter how much last 10 years this that and CT this that our fans do, the reality is that the CT and the T20 WC are insignificant trophies.

The only trophy that actually matters is the ODI WC. It is on par if not better than winning a Test series in AUS/ENG/IND.

There is a reason why Cummins called the ODI WC the pinnacle of cricket in his post match interview.

Even the WTC is a bit of a forced affair and it doesn’t take precedence over winning a Test series in a top country.

If you ask Australian players to choose between beating India in a WTC Final in England and winning a Test series in India, they would pick winning a Test series in India.

The WI won a CT and two T20 WCs in 12 years between 2004-2016, yet, in this period, no one viewed them as one of the biggest forces in cricket.

On the other hand, a team winning two or three ODI WCs in the space of 12 years will be remembered as a legendary team.

In the trophy that matters, Pakistan haven’t even made a final in 24 years and their fans run their mouths like the ODI WC was made for them.

No one in Australia even talks about the CT wins in 2006 and 2009 or their T20 WC in 2021. In Limited Overs, the only legacy they care about is their 6 ODI WCs.

The CT is such a joke of a tournament that the ICC have tried hard to scrap it and it is so pointless that winning it doesn’t even make you the champion of the format.

The T20 WC was not even called a “World Cup” until 2021. It used to be the World T20.

Let Pakistan win an ODI WC again or at least make a final and then run your mouth.
 
so CT and World T20 dont matter, yet India could not win either in 10 years.

So India cant win what matters and they also cant win what does not matter.

than what is the purpose of India cricket than?
Lets not forget the World Test Championship too. LOL!
 
No matter how much we sugarcoat this is a tough one to take. Ind has to acknowledge they have a mental block in the finals. Got to address and take it head on. The other thing is - the way it is now - all the icc events will be one by the big 3 aus ind eng for the foreseeable future . Its just the way it is. And winner medals dominated by aus eng ind in that order. Reaching to a point where every icc final will be between one of these 3 teams with aus prevailing in majority.

The next t20 WC in 2024 should see one of these 3 teams winning it. An odd surprise can happen sure but for the most parts icc events will see these 3 teams in the final with aus leading the score. NZ and sa will be a step below as the perennial bridesmaids. For ind to exercise the demons - they have a great chance still with 24t20 wc, 25 CT, 27 odi WC. They need to have a mindset change and try to win all these 3 events.. not going to be easy with eng revamping and aus being aus...
 
The Indian Team, Star Sports, Ex players and the overall country of India was celebrating even before actually winning the final themselves. The fact they were not mentally prepared for Australia winning and had made no preperations for Australia winning told everything.

Next time the likes of Virender Sehwag, Irfan Pathan, Akash Chopra, Wasim Jaffer and go should keep their mouths shut and not disrespect other cricketing nations without provocation.
 
Not sure why are you responding on behalf of @Major as he is totally capable of responding himself.

And if I was hurt from yesterday why would I log into this forum and engage with posters? I would rather hide just like you did since that 229 runs defeat game in Asia cup. But unlike you I am lion hearted just like my team, take defeats on the chin and move on. Don't hide for a month and wait for right opportunity.
They obviously didn't take defeat on thier chins.
 
The Indian Team, Star Sports, Ex players and the overall country of India was celebrating even before actually winning the final themselves. The fact they were not mentally prepared for Australia winning and had made no preperations for Australia winning told everything.

Next time the likes of Virender Sehwag, Irfan Pathan, Akash Chopra, Wasim Jaffer and go should keep their mouths shut and not disrespect other cricketing nations without provocation.
This is 100% right. Everyone was thinking that winning the final is just a formality and were ready to burst their Diwali crackers on 19th Novemeber. But they won't learn from this. I know this pretty well. :inti
 
And also FWIW- t20 is the future, tests only between ind aus eng - just have 3 marquee test series ashes, bord-gav trophy, ind-eng.. not viable in other countries. Odis too should be done with - too long and boring in this era. And I am a test and odi fanatic who is saying this. Scrap bilateral odis, WTC final should be just between aus ind eng as above as it's not viable for others... just have odi WC every 4 years, make CT T20.. the game has to survive in the modern era especially with soccer getting so popular even in Asia . Man fifa needs to get china and ind in every fifa WC somehow- will be a viewership juggernaut. Different matter that the ind soccer team will be thrashed lol.. imagine brazil vs ind jeez the scoreline would read 20-0 😀
 
so CT and World T20 dont matter, yet India could not win either in 10 years.

So India cant win what matters and they also cant win what does not matter.

than what is the purpose of India cricket than?

Indian team will not win a Wt20 anytime in near future as we are not meant for T20 cricket. It doesn't come naturally to us.

However, what do you mean by can't win Champions Trophy? There has only been 2 CT's that has been played in last 10 years and India won once in 2013 and reached finals undefeated in next one.

Purpose of cricket is not only defined by ICC trophies. Most Indian fans would swap multiple T20 WCs for those two test series win's down under.
 
I agree with the OP this was a humiliating defeat.

Losing is part of sport but to bottle it like rabbits in headlights while playing in your own conditions with your crowd in such a manner was very poor.

I dont feel sorry for the Indian fans, as their arrogance is always annoying but from a sporting pov what an ant-climax for them.

Modis face at the end was a sight :ROFLMAO:
 
Purpose of cricket is not only defined by ICC trophies. Most Indian fans would swap multiple T20 WCs for those two test series win's down under.

Actually, number of ICC trophy is the biggest indicator of a nation's greatness.

That is why Aussies are considered as the greatest cricket nation of all time (won 10 ICC trophies).

Test series is not anything special. Test series has been happening since 1877.
 
Don't think people realise how big of a bottle job this was from India. This WC was theirs for the taking. For some strange reason they decided to make the track slow and the match dependent on the toss. There is no way the groundman would have designed the pitch without getting input from the BCCI, Sharma and Dravid.

It takes mental strength to keep doing what you are successfully doing and not over thinking and completely change the winning formula on a big game.
 
I agree with the OP this was a humiliating defeat.

Losing is part of sport but to bottle it like rabbits in headlights while playing in your own conditions with your crowd in such a manner was very poor.

I dont feel sorry for the Indian fans, as their arrogance is always annoying but from a sporting pov what an ant-climax for them.

Modis face at the end was a sight :ROFLMAO:
Still much better than crashing out in the group stage after calling yourself the number 1 team with the number 1 batsman and number 1 bowling attack. There is no shame in losing a final especially after you have played sensational cricket all tournament. Anyone can have a bad day.
 
Still much better than crashing out in the group stage after calling yourself the number 1 team with the number 1 batsman and number 1 bowling attack. There is no shame in losing a final especially after you have played sensational cricket all tournament. Anyone can have a bad day.

You either win or you go home. There are no points for finishing second best. This Indian team bottled their biggest opportunity which they are not going to get again.
 
Still much better than crashing out in the group stage after calling yourself the number 1 team with the number 1 batsman and number 1 bowling attack. There is no shame in losing a final especially after you have played sensational cricket all tournament. Anyone can have a bad day.

Lets leave the diversion for the correct thread. :)

Its not a bad day, it was a bottle job, they lost their peanuts. India will never get a better chance of winning the World Cup but dont worry IPL is coming soon. :ROFLMAO:
 
Why is that? You have IPL. You are supposed to dominate T20.

Indian domestic season mostly has first class and List A games. So we produce more orthodox classical players than slam dang T20 ones. Also, genetically it doesn't suit us. That is why you will see classical players like Rohit Sharma, KL Rahul or even youngsters like Yasasvi Jaiswal try to hack in T20 cricket which is against their style of play or what they have learned from childhood. IPL has nothing to do with international cricket. In a league system, teams hire best resources scouting players around the world based on money available. In internationals, you have to restrict based on the place of your birth.

So I think we will not win any T20 WC in near future. However I have great hope from ODI events (CT & WC) and WTC...we should win few by end of this decade.
 
Pakistan hasn't seen a World Cup final in 24 years.

Haven't seen a semi final in 13 years.

That's humiliation.

There is no humiliation in Winning 10 in a row and losing the finals to a better team.
 
Lets leave the diversion for the correct thread. :)

Its not a bad day, it was a bottle job, they lost their peanuts. India will never get a better chance of winning the World Cup but dont worry IPL is coming soon. :ROFLMAO:

Yes the race is on to somehow make the India defeat in front of a home crowd, home conditions as something which was written in the stars.
 
Yes the race is on to somehow make the India defeat in front of a home crowd, home conditions as something which was written in the stars.

It would have been their greatest victory in history, surpassing 83 and 2011.

Im not sure what you think but the large crowd going silent, wasnt helping them. The pressure and of course the Aussie beast was far too much this time.
 
Pakistan hasn't seen a World Cup final in 24 years.

Haven't seen a semi final in 13 years.

That's humiliation.

There is no humiliation in Winning 10 in a row and losing the finals to a better team.
Indians were celebrating before the game even started! Ind definitely best team but were always due a bad performance and unfortunately for them it came in the final. Anything other than cup is a flop for India
 
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Yes the race is on to somehow make the India defeat in front of a home crowd, home conditions as something which was written in the stars.

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Still much better than crashing out in the group stage after calling yourself the number 1 team with the number 1 batsman and number 1 bowling attack. There is no shame in losing a final especially after you have played sensational cricket all tournament. Anyone can have a bad day.
India bottled it again in an ICC tourney, but to a mediocrity merchant like you it's always a bad day.

I wonder how many rotten eggs and tomatoes were thrown over weekend 🤭
 
Still much better than crashing out in the group stage after calling yourself the number 1 team with the number 1 batsman and number 1 bowling attack. There is no shame in losing a final especially after you have played sensational cricket all tournament. Anyone can have a bad day.
Same applies to your team. Shubman Gill best batsmen after Kohli in Asia. Rohit Sharma one of the great openers of all time. Virat Kohli the greatest cricketer ever. Rahul will walk into every team. SKY goat t20s player. Jadeja better all rounder then Imran( not to mention Ashwin who you also think is better then Imran was on the bench). Kuldeep the best Chinaman bowler of all time. Bumrah the greatest Indian fast bowler of all time by some distance followed closely shami and yet they still failed to win on custom made pitch. You can't make this up.

The is the greatest humiliation of all time.
 
Same applies to your team. Shubman Gill best batsmen after Kohli in Asia. Rohit Sharma one of the great openers of all time. Virat Kohli the greatest cricketer ever. Rahul will walk into every team. SKY goat t20s player. Jadeja better all rounder then Imran( not to mention Ashwin who you also think is better then Imran was on the bench). Kuldeep the best Chinaman bowler of all time. Bumrah the greatest Indian fast bowler of all time by some distance followed closely shami and yet they still failed to win on custom made pitch. You can't make this up.

The is the greatest humiliation of all time.
I honestly think they need to hire a pandit ji to sit down and do a pooja to ward off evil spirits. But im afraid if they do that, Jay Shah will drop dead.

Their team, insopite of all the talent and resources, has a lot of bad juju around it thanks to their unethical and immoral board. The players are all great and get a lot of respect from people across the border as well but the way their board controls cricket or tries to control cricket, is it any surprise the hate they continue to get?
 
It’s odd to see that some Pakistani fans are so willing to make excuses about other team’s failures but would never try to defend our team or any of its players.

Rauf was injured in the Asia Cup and did not even get to complete his overs the next day

Shaheen injured his knee badly and then injured it in the T20 WC

Naseem Shah was injured to the point that he required surgery

Yet still, no one takes the time to consider this context. But when it comes to the Indian cricket team, who had every single thing going for them, all of the most unbelievable excuses come out.
 
Same applies to your team. Shubman Gill best batsmen after Kohli in Asia. Rohit Sharma one of the great openers of all time. Virat Kohli the greatest cricketer ever. Rahul will walk into every team. SKY goat t20s player. Jadeja better all rounder then Imran( not to mention Ashwin who you also think is better then Imran was on the bench). Kuldeep the best Chinaman bowler of all time. Bumrah the greatest Indian fast bowler of all time by some distance followed closely shami and yet they still failed to win on custom made pitch. You can't make this up.

The is the greatest humiliation of all time.
To add:

1. Virat Kohli - Most runs in a single edition of the Men's Cricket World Cup (765 runs)

2. Virat Kohli - Highest run scorer in the 2023 WC (765)

3. Virat Kohli - Most centuries in ODIs (50)

4. Mohammed Shami - Highest wicket taker in 2024 WC - 24 wickets at an average of 10.70 and a strike rate of 12.20

5. Mohammed Shami - Fastest-ever to 50 wickets in World Cup (17 innings)

6. Rohit Sharma - Most centuries at the Cricket World Cups (seven)

7. Rohit Sharma - Highest number of toss wins in 2023 WC

8. Mohammed Shami - Best ODI bowling figures by an Indian (7/57)

9. Narendra Modi Stadium - Largest cricket stadium in the world - 132000 Capacity

Proving the adage that it is not the number of runs or wickets that matter, it is when the runs scored / wickets taken that matter.

Deserved humiliation is an understatement! This was more divine condemnation.


😂😂😂
 
Pakistan hasn't seen a World Cup final in 24 years.

Haven't seen a semi final in 13 years.

That's humiliation.

There is no humiliation in Winning 10 in a row and losing the finals to a better team.
funny how there is the better team in every final india has played in the last 10 years
 
Indians were celebrating before the game even started! Ind definitely best team but were always due a bad performance and unfortunately for them it came in the final. Anything other than cup is a flop for India

How can you or anyone decide what is success and what is flop for India?

The team has received plenty of support and praise for their performances even after the loss.

If most Indian fans think that what the team has done is ok, I don't know why the team and fans will be bothered by outside noise.
 
I honestly think they need to hire a pandit ji to sit down and do a pooja to ward off evil spirits. But im afraid if they do that, Jay Shah will drop dead.

Their team, insopite of all the talent and resources, has a lot of bad juju around it thanks to their unethical and immoral board. The players are all great and get a lot of respect from people across the border as well but the way their board controls cricket or tries to control cricket, is it any surprise the hate they continue to get?
There is no evil spirits when you have a team full of chokers, no need for anything else. Their fans(not all) some ex players and the board avery arrogant and they deserve the humiliation.
 
Every Indian was going on about REVENGE OF 2003. That was the narrative that was build.

What has happened in the last 10 years against 6 different oppositions, each time they will be labelled as revenge whenever India meets them (and losses to them) in the final
 
To add:

1. Virat Kohli - Most runs in a single edition of the Men's Cricket World Cup (765 runs)

2. Virat Kohli - Highest run scorer in the 2023 WC (765)

3. Virat Kohli - Most centuries in ODIs (50)

4. Mohammed Shami - Highest wicket taker in 2024 WC - 24 wickets at an average of 10.70 and a strike rate of 12.20

5. Mohammed Shami - Fastest-ever to 50 wickets in World Cup (17 innings)

6. Rohit Sharma - Most centuries at the Cricket World Cups (seven)

7. Rohit Sharma - Highest number of toss wins in 2023 WC

8. Mohammed Shami - Best ODI bowling figures by an Indian (7/57)

9. Narendra Modi Stadium - Largest cricket stadium in the world - 132000 Capacity

Proving the adage that it is not the number of runs or wickets that matter, it is when the runs scored / wickets taken that matter.

Deserved humiliation is an understatement! This was more divine condemnation.


😂😂😂
The best power play team middle order team. Best bowling averages. Batting averages. Lowest economy rates etc and yet they can't win. Next time they should ask ICC just to hand them the trophy.
 
The Indian Team, Star Sports, Ex players and the overall country of India was celebrating even before actually winning the final themselves. The fact they were not mentally prepared for Australia winning and had made no preperations for Australia winning told everything.

Next time the likes of Virender Sehwag, Irfan Pathan, Akash Chopra, Wasim Jaffer and go should keep their mouths shut and not disrespect other cricketing nations without provocation.
Sehwag Pathan and other ex- cricketers/trolls were very confident of a victory at home because they thought BCCI is powerful enough to pull this off.
They were not prepared for this HUMILIATION
 
Cmon Bro!

Remember no one remembers 2nd place, there o no moral victory - just a win.
If that was the case people won't be fighting for knockout places.


For me and most of the fans the requirement for the team was to play well and qualify for the finals.

The second requirement was to beat Pakistan.

They did both.

Winning the cup was always a 50-50 scenario on the day. Some Indian fans were like 60-40 Australia once they reached the finals.

That's why you don't see much if any backlash from the fans.

The OP created a thread to match the one created after the Asia Cup performance of Pakistan.

There is hell and heaven difference between the performance of India in the WC and Pakistan in Asia cup.
 
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