How can India recover from the humiliating ICC ODI World Cup 2023 final loss?

It funny when your team is losing Matches and series left , right but still criticized India who was played the world cup Final .

This is called minnow mentality. It was normally associated with Bangladeshi fans previously when they used to get happy if India was beaten by SENA teams as their own team is incapable of doing it. Sad to see how much Pakistan team and its fans have fallen that they are now getting happy bcoz India couldn't win the finals even though the same India absolutely destroyed their own team twice in last 2 months. Please tell me if this is not minnow mindset, what is?
 
This is called minnow mentality. It was normally associated with Bangladeshi fans previously when they used to get happy if India was beaten by SENA teams as their own team is incapable of doing it. Sad to see how much Pakistan team and its fans have fallen that they are now getting happy bcoz India couldn't win the finals even though the same India absolutely destroyed their own team twice in last 2 months. Please tell me if this is not minnow mindset, what is?

Indian fans were also happy when Pakistan lost final against England in ICC T20I World Cup 2022. Because their own team couldn't beat world class teams
 
This is called minnow mentality. It was normally associated with Bangladeshi fans previously when they used to get happy if India was beaten by SENA teams as their own team is incapable of doing it. Sad to see how much Pakistan team and its fans have fallen that they are now getting happy bcoz India couldn't win the finals even though the same India absolutely destroyed their own team twice in last 2 months. Please tell me if this is not minnow mindset, what is?
Its basically a reaction to the unethical Indian board and arrogant and self centered indian cricket fans, media and some of the former players. The Indian team players like Kohli and Bhumrah etc are well liked and even loved by Pakistanis. The politicisation by the board, fans and former players have ruined it for you guys. Ab jab her taraf se chapairein pur rahi hein to pareshan kyon ho rahey ho? You guys should have expected all this.
 
I think the Aussie players showed them their true worth. They were sitting in the dressing room with their feet on the trophy they won at the Modi Stadium. This is really what they thought of this world cup and beating the hosts in the final. Humiliation after humiliation piled on top.
 
152-0. Legend says Babar and Rizwan's bats were flaming fire that night in Dubai 🔥❤️‍🔥

True. PAK were favourites for that Cup. Before PAK bowling attack gave up a record 177 in Dubai when Mathew Wade showed Shaheen his real auqaat :misbah
 
Indian fans were also happy when Pakistan lost final against England in ICC T20I World Cup 2022. Because their own team couldn't beat world class teams
Chalk and cheese comparison. India beat Pakistan in that very same tournament. Also Pakistan only reached semi finals bcoz Netherlands unexpectedly defeated SA, else they were not deserving side after losing against Ind & Zim in group stages.

It is not the same case here as India was undefeated in all games and beat Pakistan along the way as well. So there can't be any cricketing logic for Pak fans to celebrate. However if its to take out frustrations on BCCI and their mishandling of things, that is fair but a different discussions all together.
 
The question is will India's selectors move on from some of the senior players and bring through a younger generation who don't have the mental scar tissue from losing tournament finals.

You ideally want a gradual transition instead of letting them all retire around the same time. Not like India's short of batting talent anyway. Bowlers won't be easy to replace.
 
Indian fans were also happy when Pakistan lost final against England in ICC T20I World Cup 2022. Because their own team couldn't beat world class teams
There are countless occasions where Indian supporters (and unsurprisingly some Pakistan supporters) were celebrating the losses of Pakistan cricket team, whether bilateral or ICC tournaments.

Indian's WC final humiliation is no exception and must be criticised, dissected, and yes, celebrated - regardless of tournament form, which is of course completely irrelevant and only serves as a consolation empathy for Indian supporters.

India's humiliation is proof that success does not depend on Money, IPL, or Engineering - and we must be reminded of this fact through jubilation!
 
The question is will India's selectors move on from some of the senior players and bring through a younger generation who don't have the mental scar tissue from losing tournament finals.

You ideally want a gradual transition instead of letting them all retire around the same time. Not like India's short of batting talent anyway. Bowlers won't be easy to replace.

Bowlers like Shami did not become Shami overnight. But they invested in him for the long term and he has had a 10 year multiformat career

In India, the domestic system is still not good enough to develop even the quicks who have potential.

Only those who make it to the national side seem to progress.

They should pick those with potential and invest in them for the long term like they did with Ishant , Umesh, Bhuvaneshwar and Shami back in 2014.

Kuldeep Sen, Umran, Mohsin Khan, Kartik Tyagi and a few others need to be invested in similarly .
 
Chalk and cheese comparison. India beat Pakistan in that very same tournament. Also Pakistan only reached semi finals bcoz Netherlands unexpectedly defeated SA, else they were not deserving side after losing against Ind & Zim in group stages.

It is not the same case here as India was undefeated in all games and beat Pakistan along the way as well. So there can't be any cricketing logic for Pak fans to celebrate. However if its to take out frustrations on BCCI and their mishandling of things, that is fair but a different discussions all together.

India also didn't deserve this world cup because they couldn't handle pressure in the final against Australia. What matters is how you absorb pressure. And Pakistan showed it in CT17
 
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But when will Pakistan avenge India in ODI World Cups.

In two months time, my statement that sums up Pakistan cricket will still hold true:

“The last time Pakistan DID NOT lose a Test match in Australia, Javed Miandad was still playing international cricket” 🤡


The fact you can't give any legit reason why India keep bottling in ICC tourneys says it all.

Go dry your tears 🤣

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How India will recover from the 'humiliating' world cup final loss?
The same way India recovered from the 'humiliating' loss in the CT 2017 final and beat Pakistan black and blue in the 2018 Asia Cup.
The same way India recovered from the 'humiliating' loss in the 2022 T20 World cup, and beat Pakistan black and blue in the Asia Cup 2023 and the World cup 2023.
Same way...
Asia Cup? The tournament that most Indian fans claimed was pointless and useless?

🤣🤣
 
I find it odd that India won all games, and in the one game that Modi decided to show up, they lost.

Maybe they should had not invited someone.
 
Some saying England have what it takes on the basis of winning one world cup in its 50 year history, on their home turf. And on either side of that one tournament victory have been nowhere near the knockouts, whilst being badly exposed in almost all others.

Apart from the one title, England haven't made a single semi final since 92. Pakistan had the title in 92, and since then have a final and a semi final to their name. That makes Pakistan more consistent than England overall. It's undisputed.

But we are being made to believe that England has what it takes. This sounds like inferiority syndrome.

On topic: I've recovered from the humiliating loss our neighbours had to endure last fine weekend. I listened to lehraa doh song on repeat.
 
If India was winning due to pitch tampering, how did they play so well in Asia Cup? Beating Pakistan by 229 runs, getting SL team all out for 50 runs etc. Were the pitches were tampered in that tournament as well?

How is it so difficult for your countrymen to just accept Indian team has played terrific cricket in last two months and only found Aussies too good in the finals. People like you will continue to give excuses so that it can mask your own team's performance and you can go home with a smirk in the face. This attitude will lead no where and more 229 runs & 36/8 humiliations awaits in future.
This is not about Pakistan despite what your brain might tell you. This is about India with full control over world cricket.
Pakistan have their own problems which we can discuss on a separate thread. This thread is not about Pakistan but India.

They celebrate Dhoni 91 as GOD like innings on the ground fully soaked with dew but OK with their commentator billeting heads and maxwell innings. Either accept that India only won 2011 WC due to dew or stop crying when things are on the other side. India were 2 down early before the due set in in 2011
 
This is called minnow mentality. It was normally associated with Bangladeshi fans previously when they used to get happy if India was beaten by SENA teams as their own team is incapable of doing it. Sad to see how much Pakistan team and its fans have fallen that they are now getting happy bcoz India couldn't win the finals even though the same India absolutely destroyed their own team twice in last 2 months. Please tell me if this is not minnow mindset, what is?
Maybe you are new to the real El Classico in Cricket. Fans from both countries do the same so why are you singling out Pakistani fans only? You don't have to go too far. In this world cup even though ndia was doing well, fans seemed more happy when Pakistan was losing their matches against other teams. Will you also call this a minnow mentality? :inti
 
India also didn't deserve this world cup because they couldn't handle pressure in the final against Australia. What matters is how you absorb pressure. And Pakistan showed it in CT17

You are digressing from the topic but as a mark of respect lets agree to disagree. No where did I say India deserve to win this world cup. I have said this multiple times that we got outplayed by a better team on the day. My issue is fans are hell bent on calling it a humiliation when it is clearly not just bcoz their own team got humiliated. The only ICC trophy India got really humiliated was in 2021 WT20 right after covid.
 
Minnow mentality is winning 10 games in a row, being outright favourites to win the world cup and then producing the biggest choke of all time but then saying atleast we made the final.

Gee whiz, maybe us Aussies just have higher standards/expectations.
 
Minnow mentality is winning 10 games in a row, being outright favourites to win the world cup and then producing the biggest choke of all time but then saying atleast we made the final.

Gee whiz, maybe us Aussies just have higher standards/expectations.
No one can match the Aussies when it comes to winning mentality. They just never give up. :inti
 
You are digressing from the topic but as a mark of respect lets agree to disagree. No where did I say India deserve to win this world cup. I have said this multiple times that we got outplayed by a better team on the day. My issue is fans are hell bent on calling it a humiliation when it is clearly not just bcoz their own team got humiliated. The only ICC trophy India got really humiliated was in 2021 WT20 right after covid.
You are missing the point the reason why people are saying India got humiliated is because despite what you might believe its no secrete they were rigging the pitches to suit their own game plus were playing at home and control all of cricket.

To top it off their commentators starting crying with 80odd runs still left to defend. The Indian team itself is good and capable of winning or doing good without the help they get due from their powerful board but yet couldn't win it.
 
You are missing the point the reason why people are saying India got humiliated is because despite what you might believe its no secrete they were rigging the pitches to suit their own game plus were playing at home and control all of cricket.

To top it off their commentators starting crying with 80odd runs still left to defend. The Indian team itself is good and capable of winning or doing good without the help they get due from their powerful board but yet couldn't win it.

There was no pitch tampering. I know embarrassing statements came from Padosi land like swing balls being given to India, Toss should be shown on spider cam and why Rohit throws the coin so far, pitches being changed during mid innings etc but none of those were true. That is why I gave Asia cup example before. It was not been played in India right? How come we still beat Pak by 229 runs and got SL all out for 50? Were pitches changed and swing wala ball were given to India even then? lol

Stop this drama mate...you know as well as I do that these conspiracy theories has no base. Even during the final when Cummins won the toss and asked India to bat first, people were calling it fixing (check the match thread).

India has played superb cricket in last 2 months only to be beaten by a better team on the day. There is nothing humiliating about it and we are proud of the team.

#JaiHind
#JaiBharat
 
Have the tears stopped yet? 🤣 can't wait for the next icc Tourney choke, I said this would happen as well

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The tears will stop once IPL starts and within those shenanigans...... all will be forgotten. lol
 
There was no pitch tampering. I know embarrassing statements came from Padosi land like swing balls being given to India, Toss should be shown on spider cam and why Rohit throws the coin so far, pitches being changed during mid innings etc but none of those were true. That is why I gave Asia cup example before. It was not been played in India right? How come we still beat Pak by 229 runs and got SL all out for 50? Were pitches changed and swing wala ball were given to India even then? lol

Stop this drama mate...you know as well as I do that these conspiracy theories has no base. Even during the final when Cummins won the toss and asked India to bat first, people were calling it fixing (check the match thread).

India has played superb cricket in last 2 months only to be beaten by a better team on the day. There is nothing humiliating about it and we are proud of the team.

#JaiHind
#JaiBharat
If you are saying they didn't rig the pitches or dont control most of cricket you are either living behind a very big stone or wearing glass that are tinted blue. Even Ponting clearly said that this pitch back fired on India. His team won but still wanted to point out the rigging.

The thread is not about Pakistan or SL and nobody is saying this Indian team cant win without rigging pitches but BCCI likes to give as mush help as possible hence embarrassment.

I see you were not able to explain why Indian commentators were shamelessly crying about the due when all of India has glorified on of the most famous innings played under due Dhoni 91 in 2011.
 
One way to recover will be to win the Test series in South Africa at the end of the year. It would be India's first ever test series win in South Africa, the only team India is yet to defeat away from home(I believe). I'm sure that would lift this team's spirit as well as those of their fans.

It is only a two match test series though, unforgivably. Inexplicably. I hope it's not the BCCI gerrymandering a short test series where India is less likely to win, to aid India's W-L record for the World Test Championship standings. But it wouldn't surprise me if it is :(. The BCCI's shameless and small-minded honchos know the price of everything but the value of nothing. They don't understand that we want to watch exhilerating cricket first, win or lose. Particularly Test cricket.

It's such a shame because India already doesn't play good Test cricket at home, cos the BCCI prepares bunsen burners that end the games in 2/3 days. In addition to being such a poor cricketing spectacle, it also means the only time India get tested is when they play abroad. Despite the results, the last two Indian test series in South Africa has been some of the best cricket I've watched in recent years. But we get just two games amongst all the useless Bi-lateral Limited Overs cricket this time...


Some of you Pakistani fans have said how watching PCT is like a bad relationship you can't quit. I can't tell how much watching India and BCCI's endless nonsense sometimes makes me feel the same. :inti

anyways, sorry for the rant.
 
There was no pitch tampering. I know embarrassing statements came from Padosi land like swing balls being given to India, Toss should be shown on spider cam and why Rohit throws the coin so far, pitches being changed during mid innings etc but none of those were true. That is why I gave Asia cup example before. It was not been played in India right? How come we still beat Pak by 229 runs and got SL all out for 50? Were pitches changed and swing wala ball were given to India even then? lol

Stop this drama mate...you know as well as I do that these conspiracy theories has no base. Even during the final when Cummins won the toss and asked India to bat first, people were calling it fixing (check the match thread).

India has played superb cricket in last 2 months only to be beaten by a better team on the day. There is nothing humiliating about it and we are proud of the team.

#JaiHind
#JaiBharat

Pitch doctoring was mentioned by Ponting and Cummins too.

I think there's little doubt the BCCI meddled with the pitches during this tournament because it's a borderline tactic when you're controlling the pitches at the stadiums.

The rest I agree were silly like the cricket balls or the rigged toss.
 
The tears will stop once IPL starts and within those shenanigans...... all will be forgotten. lol
They are multi millionaires with so much to enjoy and look forward to. The disappointment will soon subside for them. Faster than most of us.
 
Maybe you are new to the real El Classico in Cricket. Fans from both countries do the same so why are you singling out Pakistani fans only? You don't have to go too far. In this world cup even though ndia was doing well, fans seemed more happy when Pakistan was losing their matches against other teams. Will you also call this a minnow mentality? :inti

Minnow mentality is when your team gets smacked all over the place and fail to even make the semis by choking in league games vs South Africa, England and Afghanistan and getting outplayed by other superior teams like Australia and India and you still have the audacity to criticize another team who won 10 out of 10 games comfortably and clinically and had just a bad day at office vs another champion team who had the benefit of conditions.

That's the proper definition of minnow mentality and we all know which set of fans falls in that category.
 
Minnow mentality is winning 10 games in a row, being outright favourites to win the world cup and then producing the biggest choke of all time but then saying atleast we made the final.

Gee whiz, maybe us Aussies just have higher standards/expectations.

Minnow mentality is not making the semis even once in three editions and making fun of a team that made semis and finals each time.

This suits Bangladeshi fans, whose team are never in contention for any trophies and have to be happy with losses of others.

But for a pedigreed team like Pakistan, if their fans have to find happiness in losses of rivals, you have to think about your team.
 
Minnow mentality is when your team gets smacked all over the place and fail to even make the semis by choking in league games vs South Africa, England and Afghanistan and getting outplayed by other superior teams like Australia and India and you still have the audacity to criticize another team who won 10 out of 10 games comfortably and clinically and had just a bad day at office vs another champion team who had the benefit of conditions.

That's the proper definition of minnow mentality and we all know which set of fans falls in that category.

Papua New Guinea fans are making fun of pakistani team for getting knocked out before Semis.

PNG fans claim, their team has never been knocked out of the ICC World Cup in round one.
 
Minnow mentality is not making the semis even once in three editions and making fun of a team that made semis and finals each time.

This suits Bangladeshi fans, whose team are never in contention for any trophies and have to be happy with losses of others.

But for a pedigreed team like Pakistan, if their fans have to find happiness in losses of rivals, you have to think about your team.

Sports always involves banter between rivals which makes following sports fun. If you can't take the heat, then maybe you should get out of the kitchen.

If the tables were turned, you Indian fans would be doing the same, but are now acting like you have some sort of higher moral compass, which as a neutral, is quite hilarious to watch.

Your team just produced the biggest choke of all time against us, and then proceeded to act in an unprofessional manner post game. Stop deflecting your failures onto another team.
 
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This would be a very good time to schedule a bilateral series against Pakistan under the guise of an olive branch to a belligerent neighbor.

Forcing a few of the Pakistani bowlers into retirement would be just the feel good story that Modi can leverage since his last attempt to co-opt the hoped for World Cup victory fell short.
 
I find it odd that India won all games, and in the one game that Modi decided to show up, they lost.

Maybe they should had not invited someone.
Mate, he arrived in the eighth over. We never took a wicket after that. Modi is a curse on the team and by extension the nation.
 
No one can match the Aussies when it comes to winning mentality. They just never give up. :inti

Is that why they haven't won the Border Gavaskar trophy since 2014 despite 2 of those series being at home ? The last time they won a Test series in India was 2004 so much for winning mentality.
 
Gambhir is accepting the reality that India lost the final against the Aussies fair and suqre.

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Gautam Gambhir on India’s loss in the Final of the ICC World Cup:

"A lot of people might not like it. I heard some of the experts saying that the best team has not gone on to win the World Cup. That's absolutely not true. That's one of the bizarre statements that I have heard. It's actually the best team that has won the World Cup. Let's be honest,"

"India won 10 matches and were in very good form, so they were favorites. But Australia had also won eight games in a row after losing the first two. Only the best team wins the World Cup. You cannot define it that way - that India won 10 matches but played one poor game. The reality is the semi-final and the final were the knockout matches. It did not matter whether you finished first or fourth [in the league stage],"

"It is easy to win six out of eight league matches. Winning two out of two when you know any mistake can cost you is difficult. Let's accept that the best team has gone on to win the World Cup. India did not play well, let's not run away from reality,"​
 
Minnow mentality is winning 10 games in a row, being outright favourites to win the world cup and then producing the biggest choke of all time but then saying atleast we made the final.

Gee whiz, maybe us Aussies just have higher standards/expectations.

Can you name a few minnows in the past worldcups that have managed that ?
 
Gambhir is accepting the reality that India lost the final against the Aussies fair and suqre.

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Gautam Gambhir on India’s loss in the Final of the ICC World Cup:

"A lot of people might not like it. I heard some of the experts saying that the best team has not gone on to win the World Cup. That's absolutely not true. That's one of the bizarre statements that I have heard. It's actually the best team that has won the World Cup. Let's be honest,"

"India won 10 matches and were in very good form, so they were favorites. But Australia had also won eight games in a row after losing the first two. Only the best team wins the World Cup. You cannot define it that way - that India won 10 matches but played one poor game. The reality is the semi-final and the final were the knockout matches. It did not matter whether you finished first or fourth [in the league stage],"

"It is easy to win six out of eight league matches. Winning two out of two when you know any mistake can cost you is difficult. Let's accept that the best team has gone on to win the World Cup. India did not play well, let's not run away from reality,"​
Wow! Gambhir always gives a strong reality check. The Amir of India.
 
Can you name a few minnows in the past worldcups that have managed that ?

You are being obtuse on purpose.

Who called India minnows? It's the mindset that Indian fans have adopted after the World Cup final choke that is of a minnow mentality.
 
You are being obtuse on purpose.

Who called India minnows? It's the mindset that Indian fans have adopted after the World Cup final choke that is of a minnow mentality.
Exactly. Glass half full mentality is minnow mentality. I am a glass half empty guy, I have a winner mentality.
 
Is that why they haven't won the Border Gavaskar trophy since 2014 despite 2 of those series being at home ? The last time they won a Test series in India was 2004 so much for winning mentality.
Tbf to them they do consider India as their final frontier, so they are aware..
 
Gambhir Dhoni Yuvi are not cheer leaders and that’s good, thats why they have two ICC trophies together, glad Gauti said what he said.
 
Who cares? It's still a tournament and India won it. I'll take that over losing to Afghanistan anyday.
You are right, losing to Afghanistan is much better than losing in a WC final at home and winning a choker tag. 😂
 
The question is will India's selectors move on from some of the senior players and bring through a younger generation who don't have the mental scar tissue from losing tournament finals.

You ideally want a gradual transition instead of letting them all retire around the same time. Not like India's short of batting talent anyway. Bowlers won't be easy to replace.
Only Shami and Jadeja has to be replaced in bowling. Prasid /Tyagi can come for the party. Jadeja will be missed as an overall package even if Axar,Washington or Bishnoi comes in.
 
You are right, losing to Afghanistan is much better than losing in a WC final at home and winning a choker tag. 😂
Absolutely not, but you can expect such a mediocre mindset from fans of a team that hasn’t qualified for an ODI World Cup Final since 1999.
 
Absolutely not, but you can expect such a mediocre mindset from fans of a team that hasn’t qualified for an ODI World Cup Final since 1999.
Absolutely yes.

Pakistan - 2 ODI WC finals - 1 Win 1 Runner Up
India - 4 ODI WC finals - 2 Wins 2 Runner Up

Both have a 0.5 W/L ratio in WC ODI Finals.

Come back in 4 years. 🤣🤣
 
Absolutely yes.

Pakistan - 2 ODI WC finals - 1 Win 1 Runner Up
India - 4 ODI WC finals - 2 Wins 2 Runner Up

Both have a 0.5 W/L ratio in WC ODI Finals.

Come back in 4 years. 🤣🤣
Pakistan will remain stuck on 1 World Cup and might not even make another final before India wins a couple more.

We need to think about where our own team is heading before we worry about India.

India will be back in 4 years and so will we by extending our run of no World Cup finals to 28 years.
 
Also in Semis, Pakistan have played 6, won 2. India have played 8 and won 4.
in Semis Pak W/L 0.33, Ind 0.5
In finals, Pak 0.5, Ind 0.5

Both choke equally in finals, and Pakistan chokes a bit more in Semis. Otherwise hardly much separation between two perennial losers in WC.
 
Wins come and go but stigma of organising a tainted tournament will remain. That is one humiliation India will never be able to overcome.
Personally I think I will never be serious about any tournament organised in India henceforth
 
Minnow mentality is not making the semis even once in three editions and making fun of a team that made semis and finals each time.

This suits Bangladeshi fans, whose team are never in contention for any trophies and have to be happy with losses of others.

But for a pedigreed team like Pakistan, if their fans have to find happiness in losses of rivals, you have to think about your team.
Pakistan team does not compare to India no team does... India is the only team that rigs pitches to suit themselves in an ICC tournament. India is also the first team to lose an ICC WC at home since forever between the BIG 3.

People are criticizing the team that has all the resources in world cricket, rigged the pitches, played at home, had some great players and yet couldn't win the WC. It was also obvious for a long time that they will be needing to beat Australia at some point.

People are not criticizing NZ if they were then your comments will be valid. They are criticizing the world power in cricket who could not win at home even after using all their force. When you are a world power in a particular sport and use every advantage you can possibly get even unfairly then get used to getting criticized if you don't even win.
 
Looks like Indian cricket will lose a lot of its beverage sponsors as they keep losing their bottle 😉🤭
 
Best way for Indian fans to learn to get over the humiliation is to act like the person who is most use to getting humilated. That's to either go into hiding or change the subject as a diversion tactic.
 
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Minnow mentality is not making the semis even once in three editions and making fun of a team that made semis and finals each time.

This suits Bangladeshi fans, whose team are never in contention for any trophies and have to be happy with losses of others.

But for a pedigreed team like Pakistan, if their fans have to find happiness in losses of rivals, you have to think about your team.
🤣🤣 clearly you take any banter at all, we all know Indian fans are licking open wounds and diversion tactic is to bring up Pakistan or someone else 🤭
 
A couple of mammoth wins are req for India to get back in groove, for this purpose they need a short 2 game or 3 game ODI series
Since all other teams have just returned from WC so they need rest and unlike India they cannot field more than 1 team. There fore India should invite Rwanda and set upa t20 serie with Rwans
 
This wasnt just a win, it was an absolute choke, where the undefeated Indian side lost the final.

This will psychologically damage our neighbors who had invited the PM and every Indian dignitary to the Modi stadium.

So question is, will India recover from this humiliating loss?

Since when did losing to AUS become a matter of humiliation?
 
I think, us people from SC, we take cricket way too seriously. What could the reason be? Is it because cricket is the only major team-sport where our countries are among the top 10? Just too emotional, we need to calm down. Yes, a defeat in final hurts, but after a few hours life should go back to normal, maybe easier said than done.
 
Since when did losing to AUS become a matter of humiliation?
when you design a match presentation ceremony towards india winning and than have long faces when handing the trophy.

Even australia media were laughing at the way the ceremony was held
 
when you design a match presentation ceremony towards india winning and than have long faces when handing the trophy.

Even australia media were laughing at the way the ceremony was held

ahhh I see ... non-cricketing reasons.

And how is the Ind cricket team responsible for these ? You wanted RD and Rohit to stop the politicians?
 
It becomes a humiliation when the whole of India thought it was a forgone conclusion before final started and thought Aussies would roll over and have their bellies tickled.

Like who? Give me some reputed cricketers, journalists names and links to their articles
 
It becomes a humiliation when the whole of India thought it was a forgone conclusion before final started and thought Aussies would roll over and have their bellies tickled.


How did you reach this conclusion? You read the mind of whole of India?
 
Gambhir is accepting the reality that India lost the final against the Aussies fair and suqre.

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Gautam Gambhir on India’s loss in the Final of the ICC World Cup:

"A lot of people might not like it. I heard some of the experts saying that the best team has not gone on to win the World Cup. That's absolutely not true. That's one of the bizarre statements that I have heard. It's actually the best team that has won the World Cup. Let's be honest,"

"India won 10 matches and were in very good form, so they were favorites. But Australia had also won eight games in a row after losing the first two. Only the best team wins the World Cup. You cannot define it that way - that India won 10 matches but played one poor game. The reality is the semi-final and the final were the knockout matches. It did not matter whether you finished first or fourth [in the league stage],"

"It is easy to win six out of eight league matches. Winning two out of two when you know any mistake can cost you is difficult. Let's accept that the best team has gone on to win the World Cup. India did not play well, let's not run away from reality,"​
Thats why Gambhir was clutch player in ko games. He was the prime scorer in India's 2007 & 2011 WC wins along with Raina. Raina also is so so underrated - always performed at #6 #7 position which is always the most difficult. Raina also said to win KO games you need to handle the insane pressure and the nerves. From 2007 to 2014 the Ind middle order was so clutch with Raina yuvi and MSD. After 2014 Yuvis form and MSD's form totally went down. Yuvi was dropped but MSD also should have been dropped or retired after the 2015 WC sf loss.
 
Why? Did Pakistan manage to beat India?

Irrelevant, both went back to their homes without the glory. This is the mentality of Indians which sees them bottle it again in the final. Boys did well , Modi gives a hug and IPL starts soon, never mind the humiliation in another final.

Kaif saying the best team didnt win is childish and shows perfectly how sore losers Indian fans are.
 
I disagree with the notion that India beating Australia in the final was a foregone conclusion.

India have great respect for Australian cricket and why shouldn’t they - it has been the greatest cricket rivalry after the Ashes in this millennium.

They have had some epic battles across formats with so much at stake and with so much drama and controversy.

India were very, very confident and they didn’t expect to lose. That is for sure, but if you had asked any Indian fan to pick one team that could beat them in this World Cup, they would have picked Australia.

The only foregone conclusion in cricket is Pakistan getting a size 12 boot by India in World Cups. A legacy and heritage that shall continue forever.
 
This wasnt just a win, it was an absolute choke, where the undefeated Indian side lost the final.

This will psychologically damage our neighbors who had invited the PM and every Indian dignitary to the Modi stadium.

So question is, will India recover from this humiliating loss?

I will tell you what real humiliation is in Cricketing terms... losing to Afghanistan or Netherlands in ODI Cricket. Or never winning a single ODI in WC against your arch rivals

Or losing to BD, WI and SL in Test Cricket.
 
Irrelevant, both went back to their homes without the glory. This is the mentality of Indians which sees them bottle it again in the final. Boys did well , Modi gives a hug and IPL starts soon, never mind the humiliation in another final.

Kaif saying the best team didnt win is childish and shows perfectly how sore losers Indian fans are.

This the mentality of Pakistanis. Pakistan haven't reached the Semis in 3 editions and pakistanis are more concerned about taunting the runners-up.

No wonder Pakistan team is struggling in 2 out of 3 formats anf if this continues, the third format strugg isn't far away.
 
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