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How do PP'ers rate Younis Khan as a ODI batsmen?
Hereby the stats of his ODI career:
Innings:255
Runs: 7249
Average: 31.34
Strike rate: 75.29
50's: 48
100's: 7
 
Goli mar bheje mai! That was Younis’ mentality of why despite his poor ODI stats, he was discarded from the team. He liked to settle in and then score lage runs but in ODI’s you need to strike big from the word go. Younis couldn’t do that and he ultimately hurt his legacy with the WC 15 saga and his abrupt retirement.
 
Ranks slightly above Chris Martin, but a little below Glenn McGrath for me in terms of usefulness as an ODI bat...
 
He would make Ahmed Shehzad look like AB when he was batting at the crease. Terrible player. What a shame he played the 2011 world cup instead of Malik.
 
Not the best no - but some stats bullies here making him he's one of the worst ODI batsman which although maybe true he wasn't as bad as Misbah who played all his games in the present era whereas the former played throughout the 2000s from his debut in 2000. But most important point folks are missing is that he has played some genuine match winning innings (not match saving), something which Misbah failed to do even once and couldn't score a ton to save his life.

Give the legend a break... Deserves more respect.
 
Not the best no - but some stats bullies here making him he's one of the worst ODI batsman which although maybe true he wasn't as bad as Misbah who played all his games in the present era whereas the former played throughout the 2000s from his debut in 2000. But most important point folks are missing is that he has played some genuine match winning innings (not match saving), something which Misbah failed to do even once and couldn't score a ton to save his life.

Give the legend a break... Deserves more respect.
O'really :D
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In case the previous link doesn't work ~ https://i.imgur.com/bqJBX38.png

FYI he did quite well against his favorite team, just not in ICC tournaments though.
Deserves more respect than Misbah because on his day he could win matches.

Perhaps as an Indian this perception can be changed if you were aware and actually watched the following winnings in a high run chase:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFLWCNYqpOI
You can't judge him based on his record against just one nation.
 
In case the previous link doesn't work ~ https://i.imgur.com/bqJBX38.png

FYI he did quite well against his favorite team, just not in ICC tournaments though.You can't judge him based on his record against just one nation.

Perhaps you need to work on your comprehension skills since I made it clear that he wasn't the best because he's not that good but my point is the same posters who are roasting him like yourself will make Misbah some sort of ODI legend.

He deserves respect for some of the matches he won for Pakistan such as that run chase in Mohali.
 
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Perhaps you need to work on your comprehension skills since I made it clear that he wasn't the best because he's not that good but my point is the same posters who are roasting him like yourself will make Misbah some sort of ODI legend.

He deserves respect for some of the matches he won for Pakistan such as that run chase in Mohali.

Every batsman will have some innings of note, even Shehzad does.

Younis was a good ODI batsman for a couple of years in the pre-2010 but his overall record is awful for a specialist batsman. The antics he pulled to be part of the ODI teams also don't help the cause.
 
Perhaps you need to work on your comprehension skills since I made it clear that he wasn't the best because he's not that good but my point is the same posters who are roasting him like yourself will make Misbah some sort of ODI legend.

He deserves respect for some of the matches he won for Pakistan such as that run chase in Mohali.
Why would I do that, Afridi was the last ODI legend you had. Flawed as he was, he'd won Pak more games than Misbah+Younis combined.

You could easily argue that he lost you more games than he'd won for Pak, an avg of 25 (barely) & S/R under 70 is just beyond belief. If you are happy that he contributed immensely against India, except ICC tournaments, then be happy, who am I to burst your bubble?
 
The most selfish odi player ever

The worst odi player to play over 200 games

An utter failure who though he was amazing and blackmailed his way into the 2015 World Cup

He also has one of the worst records in WCs of all time
 
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Younis Khan. After wanting to open vs India in the 2015 WC. Picture speaks a 1000 words.

Man we've come far after 2 years.
 
He wasn't a good ODI batsman.

It's surprising why he never managed to do well. A batsman of his quality should have been much better in the shorter format.
 
Every batsman will have some innings of note, even Shehzad does.

Younis was a good ODI batsman for a couple of years in the pre-2010 but his overall record is awful for a specialist batsman. The antics he pulled to be part of the ODI teams also don't help the cause.

He had his moments in the 2000s which is why he does a bit more respect than we see on this thread but agreed his antics didn't help and should have retired after 2011 WC .
 
Why would I do that, Afridi was the last ODI legend you had. Flawed as he was, he'd won Pak more games than Misbah+Younis combined.

You could easily argue that he lost you more games than he'd won for Pak, an avg of 25 (barely) & S/R under 70 is just beyond belief. If you are happy that he contributed immensely against India, except ICC tournaments, then be happy, who am I to burst your bubble?

Going by the double standards some have set here there is a need for consistency. If Misbah is to be respected in ODIs than so does Younis Khan because unlike the former he actually won some games for Pakistan.
 
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The most selfish odi player ever

The worst odi player to play over 200 games

An utter failure who though he was amazing and blackmailed his way into the 2015 World Cup

He also has one of the worst records in WCs of all time

Good point, I forgot his World Cup record... 22/70 stats in FOUR World Cups with two fifties against SL and Kenya.
 
Misbah is a much better LOI batsman than younis. Misbah was a very flawed ODI batsman but he was still better than younis in ODIs and absolutely leagues above younis is t20s. Misbah has played some very good t20 innings that could've been replicated in ODIs if only he didn't bat so defensively in that format. Younis on the other hand just didn't have he ability to be a decent LOI batsman.
 
Overall an average ODI player.

However I think it's harsh to call him the worst to play over 200 ODIs ...

He was below average for sure. Let's do this ,

Entire list of players who played 200+ ODIs who were not a keeper. Just eliminated them to keep the list shorter.

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Try to find 5 players in this huge list who were worse than YK. Worse is subjective and you can argue with 1-2 names here, but he was surely one of the worse to play 200+ ODI games.
 
He was below average for sure. Let's do this ,

Entire list of players who played 200+ ODIs who were not a keeper. Just eliminated them to keep the list shorter.

Try to find 5 players in this huge list who were worse than YK. Worse is subjective and you can argue with 1-2 names here, but he was surely one of the worse to play 200+ ODI games.
If you tighten the criteria a bit, he's the third worst ever, worst for a specialist (batter) non keeping/bowling player.Batting records _ One-Day Internationals _ Cricinfo Statsguru _ ESPN Cricinfo.jpg
www.stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engin...alval2=hundreds;template=results;type=batting
 
Alongside Cook and Rahane.. A lot behind Dravid.

Dravid's rating was higher in pretty much entire career than peak rating of YK. YK made it to highest ranking of 17 in his entire career. While Dravid was not a top 10 material himself, he was mostly ranked in 10-20 in his career. YK's peak got him highest rank of 17.

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Dravid was far superior batsman than YK in ODI. Problem is that Dravid was playing for Indian line up filled with gun batsmen. He looked poor in comparison, but no way he was inferior to YK.
 
McCullum was comfortably a better player than YK in ODI. I won't call him inferior due to having similar Avg, because his SR was 20 point higher than YK. Then Afridi is left in contention and he was not a pure batsman.
I was talking about avg as the differentiating factor, overall though he's easily the worst, taking everything else into account.
 
I was talking about avg as the differentiating factor, overall though he's easily the worst, taking everything else into account.

Well, I provided a huge list and let's see anyone can pick 3-4 names who should be rated below YK in ODI. PPers are not right all the time, but I recon here PPers may be right on target.
 
Well, I provided a huge list and let's see anyone can pick 3-4 names who should be rated below YK in ODI. PPers are not right all the time, but I recon here PPers may be right on target.
I think you're being optimistic, you'd have to go back 30 to 40 years before we see anyone who's been consistently as bad as Younis over the years.
 
Although he's played less matches Shafiq is worse than Younis in ODIs both were given a long rope without any results for some reason.
 
Easily the worst specialist batsman to play so many ODI's.

Shoaib Malik was 10 times better as Pakistan's number 3 then YK, he also kept more deserving players out of the team, players like Saeed AnwarJnr and Saeed bin Nasir who both averaged over 42 in List A cricket.
 
His average would be lower than 30 if it weren't for piyush chawla, praveen kumar in 2007-8.
 
Younis wasn't just cut out for ODI's. He was a great test player but could not crack the shorter format. It is similar to how Bevan could not succeed in tests.
 
Much better than Misbah.

As if that's an achievement. But keep on celebrating one mediocre player being better than another one for the side you support.

You two made me LOL 😂

Misbah could stick around for longer post-2010.

But when YK and Misbah were younger back in 2007-09. YK was head and shoulders above Misbah. Case in point - the 321 Mohali chase and the 309 Karachi chase.
 
At least asad shafiq had a good 2011 wc

Younis khan will argue he always batted at number 7 because of wasim akram etc but so did all other pakistani batsmen when they started their career
His batting in ODI made azhar alis shot selection look good
 
Quite ordinary and would not make Top 40 batsmen for India or Australia in ODI cricket
 
He was decent in the first half of his career when he batted down the order, and he had a really good purple patch in 2007-08. Apart from that, he was horrendous.
 
Underachieved if I'm honest. To have played so many games and have a average just over 31. If you take out the hundred against Eng in 2006, India 07 & 08 and the one against New Zealand in 2014.
 
He should have been much, much better than what he achieved. At least an average of 35-38 with a strike rate of 80+
 
It is a real shame to think players like Shoaib Malik and Hafeez were better ODI cricketers than Younis Khan. Younis Khan should have dominated ODI cricket for Pakistan the way Jayawardene did for Sri Lanka.
 
Younis was a scratchy starter, and they usually don’t do well in ODIs.

Jayawardene was poor in the middle-order but he was brilliant as an opener. Sri Lanka should have played him at the top of the order more frequently especially when they struggled to find a partner for Dilshan.
 
Very poor especially after leaving the captaincy. Younis was a slow starter and when his reflexes slowed simply couldn't up the pace.

Wouldn't say he was the worst ever ODI batsmen or even in the top 5 though. There were folks like Michael Slater who averaged 24 at a SR of 60 after 42 ODIs without a single hundred, despite having a reputation for being an attacking batsman.
 
shoaib mohammed is probably the worst odi batsman i have seen from pak. in comparison, his test record is right up there and quite possibly, his batting average is the highest or the second highest for pakistani opener. says a lot about pakistan cricket that ramiz has played more test matches than shoaib did. rumour was that imran did not think highly of shoaib and that was the end of that. despite all that, i have always seen him with a positive attitude.
 
One of the worst of all time considering the fact that he played 265 ODIs, got a few 100s in JAMODIs but what's the point of those? Everyone blames Misbah for the Mohali knock but YK was much worse that day, destroyed Pakistan's momentum against harmless bowling. After a decent start his 12 (32) was criminal.
 
your hypocrisy is now visible to all. So please can you explain to us all how is YK such a great ODI batter.
 
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Acha rana jee, how is YK with an average of 31 & strike rate of 75 a proper number 3 ODI batter. Would you be kind enough to explain.
 
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Acha rana jee, how is YK with an average of 31 & strike rate of 75 a proper number 3 ODI batter. Would you be kind enough to explain.
You don’t get to ask me any questions

I don’t discuss cricket seriously with those who are proven to be clueless.
 
your hypocrisy is now visible to all. So please can you explain to us all how is YK such a great ODI batter.
Although I feel it’s not appropriate for me to engage in cricketing discussion with you because its pointless, I still feel that because of all the mods edits and deleting of posts, there should be some clarification from where this shot off from. Below is my post that was deleted in another thread,

“Younis Khan in Test cricket has played some of the unreal innings that guys like Babar+Rizwan will never play even as a combined entity.

Some of his ODI innings were elite too. When he was on, the guy was an absolute delight to watch. I firmly believe he was on course to become Pakistan’s solid number 3 who set the pace and tempo of the innings around the 2007-8 time (maybe even before it). I remember back then I was in total awe of players like Ponting because they were setting the tempo for their side by bossing it at 3. Punter always batted at a strike rate close to a hundred. He never really celebrated a 50, it wasn’t job done for him. He had that attitude. I wanted a player like that for Pakistan and for brief moments I thought YK was easing into this role.

Pakistan have had too many years of turbulence, politics and infighting as soon as Inzimam stepped away and then you had a slow crawl in of players like Misbah, whilst a drama queen like Hafeez was getting louder and louder with his stuck up attitude! Shoaib Malik as usual doing his “cloak and dagger” politics whilst falling out with everyone. Yousuf continuously living in a delusion of royalty within his head

All of these (although good cricketers) were kept in line during the Inzimam+Woolmer era! They were all let loose like a bunch of wild, toxic pendus and it basically ruined what could have been a great era for Pakistan cricket because the players were still top quality as they had fine batsmen and top class fast bowlers.

YK the proper no.3 ODI batter was lost in this period”
 
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Although I feel it’s not appropriate for me to engage in cricketing discussion with you because its pointless, I still feel that because of all the mods edits and deleting of posts, there should be some clarification from where this shot off from. Below is my post that was deleted in another thread,

“Younis Khan in Test cricket has played some of the unreal innings that guys like Babar+Rizwan will never play even as a combined entity.

Some of his ODI innings were elite too. When he was on, the guy was an absolute delight to watch. I firmly believe he was on course to become Pakistan’s solid number 3 who set the pace and tempo of the innings around the 2007-8 time (maybe even before it). I remember back then I was in total awe of players like Ponting because they were setting the tempo for their side by bossing it at 3. Punter always batted at a strike rate close to a hundred. He never really celebrated a 50, it wasn’t job done for him. He had that attitude. I wanted a player like that for Pakistan and for brief moments I thought YK was easing into this role.

Pakistan have had too many years of turbulence, politics and infighting as soon as Inzimam stepped away and then you had a slow crawl in of players like Misbah, whilst a drama queen like Hafeez was getting louder and louder with his stuck up attitude! Shoaib Malik as usual doing his “cloak and dagger” politics whilst falling out with everyone. Yousuf continuously living in a delusion of royalty within his head

All of these (although good cricketers) were kept in line during the Inzimam+Woolmer era! They were all let loose like a bunch of wild, toxic pendus and it basically ruined what could have been a great era for Pakistan cricket because the players were still top quality as they had fine batsmen and top class fast bowlers.

YK the proper no.3 ODI batter was lost in this period”
@gazza619

First of all, do not flatter yourself by falling under the impression that I was engaging on a serious cricketing discussion with you. This was me engaging with my bro @topspin who’s cricket knowledge and critique I rate alongside other great posters.

So before you go around trying to do a Rashid Latif on me by twisting words, making false implications and false narratives…just know that you are not anywhere near as smart as you think you are. You will not prevail. Losers never do unfortunately.
 
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3. Younis Khan
4. Mohammad Yousuf
5. Inzimam ul Haq


Name a stronger ODI (of course Test) middle order in the history of Pakistan cricket.

Anyone?
Please stop posting nonsense. The thread is about YK the ODI batter.

Explain to us how is YK a proper ODI batter as per your standards.
 
Please stop posting nonsense

You are allowed to say what you want.

If you think it’s invalid, prove me wrong.

Tell me a stronger middle order in the history of Pakistan ODI cricket? Batsmen 3-5. Go on.
 
You are allowed to say what you want.

If you think it’s invalid, prove me wrong.

Tell me a stronger middle order in the history of Pakistan ODI cricket? Batsmen 3-5. Go on.
Do not derail the thread. You claim YK as a ‘proper’ ODI batter. Tell us how.
 
He wasn't as bad as some of the people here are making out but aside from a couple of years around 2007 and 2008 he was an average ODI player, probably below average actually. It's a shame as he had the shots and the temperament to be an excellent all format player. His innings in the WC SF in 2011. I mean, I don't know what was going on there. Absolutely utterly ridiculous innings that was probably one of the leading causes of our defeat in that game.
 
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