How to become a Hindu

[PakLFC]

Sikhism deviated enough from typical Hinduism and Islam teachings to became a standalone religion. Sikhism borrowed teaching from Islam as well as Hinduism.
Sikhism is a monotheistic religion advocating the belief in One Universal God signified by the term Ik Onkar. In Sikhism, the overall concept of God is Waheguru considered to be shapeless, timeless , incomprehensible and invisible.
Sikh leader's conflict with Mughal rulers made them aligned more culturally inclined with Hinduism.

That is true but Muslim's do not call Sikh's an extension of Islam. As they don't accept our kalimah they are very much non Muslim's. It is the Hindu's who call Sikhs as being Hindu's.

The Sikh view of Islam is based on the Mughal's who oppressed and killed them. The know very little about Islamic theology.

 

[Romali_rotti]

According to Islam , Adam was first Human , and he is a prophet of Islam , so my main ancestor was a Muslim.

How is Adam your ancestor, Law of genetics would say you are not from the same race of human. Makes no sense. Converts from the sub continent are not genetically related to the Jews or Arabs of that time

 

[MenInG]

How is Adam your ancestor, Law of genetics would say you are not from the same race of human. Makes no sense. Converts from the sub continent are not genetically related to the Jews or Arabs of that time

What makes you think Adam was an Arab?

 

[Romali_rotti]

What makes you think Adam was an Arab?

Just a guess..

Whichever race he was, he is not connected to any humans from the sub continent , genetically anyway...

 

[Champ_Pal]

What makes you think Adam was an Arab?

Adam obviously spoke Arabic. As soon as Adam was created, he sneezed and said Alhamdulilah.

 

[sweep_shot]

Adam obviously spoke Arabic. As soon as Adam was created, he sneezed and said Alhamdulilah.

Alhamdulillah means "Praise be to God". You can say that in any language. There is no evidence that language of Adam (PBUH) was Arabic.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Alhamdulillah means "Praise be to God". You can say that in any language. There is no evidence that language of Adam (PBUH) was Arabic.

He also said AsSalamuAlaikum to angels. Is that not Arabic?

 

[sweep_shot]

He also said AsSalamuAlaikum to angels. Is that not Arabic?

Assalamu alaikum can be said in other languages too. Again, there is no evidence that language of Adam (PBUH) was Arabic (please see the video above).

Not all prophets spoke Arabic. Language of Jesus (PBUH) was something else; Aramaic possibly.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Assalamu alaikum can be said in other languages too. Again, there is no evidence that language of Adam (PBUH) was Arabic (please see the video above).

Not all prophets spoke Arabic. Language of Jesus (PBUH) was something else; Aramaic possibly.

Adam said AssalmuAlaikum and it is Arabic. It is said differently in other languages like Hebrew.

I am not talking about Jesus or Moses. I am specifically talking about Adam.

 

[sweep_shot]

Adam said AssalmuAlaikum and it is Arabic. It is said differently in other languages like Hebrew.

I am not talking about Jesus or Moses. I am specifically talking about Adam.

You seem to be purposefully being thick. For the last time, please see the video from post #246.

 

[Champ_Pal]

You seem to be purposefully being thick. For the last time, please see the video from post #246.

That Sheikh is saying it is not useful to us to know which language Adam spoke. Nice answer Sheikh.

You tell me now. Is "Assalamu Aaikum" Arabic or not?

 

[Champ_Pal]

[MENTION=141306]sweep_shot[/MENTION], the real word is the Hebrew greeting "shalom aleichem". Muslims adopted the Jewish greeting and made it their own.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Moses is one of the primary figure in Abrahamic faith. His time period was around 1500 BC.

Hinduism is full of hybrid gods. Face of animal over human body. Early avatar of Lord Vishnu is good example of that. In Ramayana ape-human hybrids characters plays major part.
Personally i believe in evolution. Apes and humans had common ancestor. "Lucy" is good example of that. One line stuck to trees and evolved into Apes. Other line preferred migration and evolved into humans.

Thanks brother, your posts have been very informative, much appreciated.

When I stated belief in ONE God , it wasnt pointing to the Abrahamic but in general. Egyptians worshipped one god, the Sun God. Before them going back to Mesopotamia , there was also one god which was worshiped.

Interesting, is this actually in the historic texts, HIndusim says God made monkeys evolved into humans?

Even you stated there is one God in Hinduism.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Thanks brother, your posts have been very informative, much appreciated.

When I stated belief in ONE God , it wasnt pointing to the Abrahamic but in general. Egyptians worshipped one god, the Sun God. Before them going back to Mesopotamia , there was also one god which was worshiped.

Interesting, is this actually in the historic texts, HIndusim says God made monkeys evolved into humans?

Even you stated there is one God in Hinduism.

Evolution does not fit into any religious faith. That is why evolution is science and faith is blind trust. One offers proof, the other offers nice bedtime stories.

 

[jeetu]

Thanks brother, your posts have been very informative, much appreciated.

When I stated belief in ONE God , it wasnt pointing to the Abrahamic but in general. Egyptians worshipped one god, the Sun God. Before them going back to Mesopotamia , there was also one god which was worshiped.

Interesting, is this actually in the historic texts, HIndusim says God made monkeys evolved into humans?

Even you stated there is one God in Hinduism.

You are correct regarding Sun God and Egyptians. Egyptians had concept of monotheism around Sun God "Ra". However it wasn't dominant belief for long and soon polytheism took over. Egyptian kings even gave themselves title of living God.

Jainism and Buddhism went with alternate view of Transtheism. They believe that the universe was not created, and will exist forever.

Creation of universe in many older religion has the concept of Cosmic Egg. The universe comes into existence by "hatching" from the egg.
With minor variation , this concept is seen in Zoroastrian , Greek , Egyptians , Hinduism and many more. However this is not the only creation myth in Hinduism , but Cosmic egg might have been the earliest line of thought.
The most accepted form of creation in Hinduism currently centers around Lord Brahma. The universe was created by lord Brahma, the creator who made the universe out of himself. After Brahma created the world, it is the power of Vishnu which preserves the world and human beings. As part of the cycle of birth, life and death it is Shiva who will ultimately destroy the universe. The process of creation all over again. Thus a cyclic universe.

According to some religious text Lord Brahma has a lifespan of 311.04 trillion years. This is also the lifespan of the current universe. When the universe undergoes dissolution, Brahma attains liberation. After that a new Lord Brahma will be born and cycle starts again.

Hinduism doesn't conform with scientific evolution theory. One of the Purana claims that Manu was the first human. Manu was son of Lord Brahma.

The Supreme Divine Power or number 1 Hindu god is the ultimate supreme being which is formless and genderless. Whose three main forms are Brahma the creator, Vishnu the sustainer and Shiva, the destroyer.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Moses is one of the primary figure in Abrahamic faith. His time period was around 1500 BC.

Hinduism is full of hybrid gods. Face of animal over human body. Early avatar of Lord Vishnu is good example of that. In Ramayana ape-human hybrids characters plays major part.
Personally i believe in evolution. Apes and humans had common ancestor. "Lucy" is good example of that. One line stuck to trees and evolved into Apes. Other line preferred migration and evolved into humans.

You are correct regarding Sun God and Egyptians. Egyptians had concept of monotheism around Sun God "Ra". However it wasn't dominant belief for long and soon polytheism took over. Egyptian kings even gave themselves title of living God.

Jainism and Buddhism went with alternate view of Transtheism. They believe that the universe was not created, and will exist forever.

Creation of universe in many older religion has the concept of Cosmic Egg. The universe comes into existence by "hatching" from the egg.
With minor variation , this concept is seen in Zoroastrian , Greek , Egyptians , Hinduism and many more. However this is not the only creation myth in Hinduism , but Cosmic egg might have been the earliest line of thought.
The most accepted form of creation in Hinduism currently centers around Lord Brahma. The universe was created by lord Brahma, the creator who made the universe out of himself. After Brahma created the world, it is the power of Vishnu which preserves the world and human beings. As part of the cycle of birth, life and death it is Shiva who will ultimately destroy the universe. The process of creation all over again. Thus a cyclic universe.

According to some religious text Lord Brahma has a lifespan of 311.04 trillion years. This is also the lifespan of the current universe. When the universe undergoes dissolution, Brahma attains liberation. After that a new Lord Brahma will be born and cycle starts again.

Hinduism doesn't conform with scientific evolution theory. One of the Purana claims that Manu was the first human. Manu was son of Lord Brahma.

The Supreme Divine Power or number 1 Hindu god is the ultimate supreme being which is formless and genderless. Whose three main forms are Brahma the creator, Vishnu the sustainer and Shiva, the destroyer.

Same as the Islamic concept of God

You are a credit to Hinduism bro, learnt a lot from your posts. No more questions atm.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

How is Adam your ancestor, Law of genetics would say you are not from the same race of human. Makes no sense. Converts from the sub continent are not genetically related to the Jews or Arabs of that time

They are all humans rotti bhai. Do you think cats dogs or fish worry about genetics?

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Thanks, interesting.

Belief in one God was around at the time of the Egyptian empire and evidence also shows long before.

yep. That is why Egyptian and Indian civilisations are one of the oldest in the world. The concept of Morality, Life and Death, Written words/text and language development are well documented in these.

 

[happydavy]

Tha amount of time so many Pakistanis spend in disbelieving Hinduism (perhaps a guilty complex somewhere that their forefathers weren't brave enough to resist the conversion by mughals), if they spend equal time actually believing in what they preach, which is Islam then it would be a prosperous and happy nation.

 

[SalimBhai]

Thanks brother, your posts have been very informative, much appreciated.

When I stated belief in ONE God , it wasnt pointing to the Abrahamic but in general. Egyptians worshipped one god, the Sun God. Before them going back to Mesopotamia , there was also one god which was worshiped.

Interesting, is this actually in the historic texts, HIndusim says God made monkeys evolved into humans?

Even you stated there is one God in Hinduism.

The ancient Egyptians worshipped over 1,400 different gods and goddesses in their shrines, temples, and homes.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Tha amount of time so many Pakistanis spend in disbelieving Hinduism (perhaps a guilty complex somewhere that their forefathers weren't brave enough to resist the conversion by mughals), if they spend equal time actually believing in what they preach, which is Islam then it would be a prosperous and happy nation.

What has being brave enough got to do with people accepting Islam in Bengal, Pakistan or Afghanistan? Which parts of India resisted any real physical threat other than those?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

When you want to take up citizen ship of another country you renunciate your existing citizenship. That’s how it works with religion too.

Hinduism has similar rule. You need to start with a blank slate. First you need to be clear that you have left your existing belief system. Come back when you denounce your existing religion and then maybe we can set you up with someone. Won’t work on a cricket forum. Give some clarity on the above and then will hook you up to the right sources.

Just a blanket rhetoric won’t work. You need to be clear on that aspect that you renounce existing belief system. Have you?

I have been offfered this advice from a Hindu poster on another thread, which was not really about the topic, but we can discuss here as it may be enlightening. I will reply myself when I have given it some thought.

 

[Technics 1210]

I have been offfered this advice from a Hindu poster on another thread, which was not really about the topic, but we can discuss here as it may be enlightening. I will reply myself when I have given it some thought.

Frankly his advise is perhaps the reason why the rate of conversions to Hinduism is at an all time low, Hinduism is just outright confusing. At least with Monotheism there is a consistent message, but with polytheism it's just all over the place.

How can anyone start with a 'blank slate' when one is looking to convert? It is simply illogical.

This might also explain the foundations of the caste system; but I dare not ask.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Frankly his advise is perhaps the reason why the rate of conversions to Hinduism is at an all time low, Hinduism is just outright confusing. At least with Monotheism there is a consistent message, but with polytheism it's just all over the place.

How can anyone start with a 'blank slate' when one is looking to convert? It is simply illogical.

This might also explain the foundations of the caste system; but I dare not ask.

I also raised a genuine topic about whether the Caste system was right all along quite some time back, but yes I think there is some troubling history which links caste to Hindu scriptures. Manusmitri in particular was quite brutal, but a refection of the age it was revealed I would venture.

 

[Champ_Pal]

For starters, to become a Hindu, just pick a deity and find the essence of the deity (love, compassion, peace) within yourself. You do not have to recite anything or byheart any mantras or pray at certain times. Do it at your own convenience or you do not have to do anything at all. You are officially a Hindu.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

For starters, to become a Hindu, just pick a deity and find the essence of the deity (love, compassion, peace) within yourself. You do not have to recite anything or byheart any mantras or pray at certain times. Do it at your own convenience or you do not have to do anything at all. You are officially a Hindu.

And following one of those deities will make you become a cow vigilante. Which deity is that?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

For starters, to become a Hindu, just pick a deity and find the essence of the deity (love, compassion, peace) within yourself. You do not have to recite anything or byheart any mantras or pray at certain times. Do it at your own convenience or you do not have to do anything at all. You are officially a Hindu.

So could I follow a deity called Allah and eat cow meat and still be considered a Hindu?

 

[RexRex]

I have been offfered this advice from a Hindu poster on another thread, which was not really about the topic, but we can discuss here as it may be enlightening. I will reply myself when I have given it some thought.

Why does Islam no longer appeal to you that you're desperate to convert to Hinduism?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Why does Islam no longer appeal to you that you're desperate to convert to Hinduism?

Where did I say I was desperate to convert to Hinduism? I was only asking how if I wanted to.

 

[Justcrazy]

Adam said AssalmuAlaikum and it is Arabic. It is said differently in other languages like Hebrew.

I am not talking about Jesus or Moses. I am specifically talking about Adam.

There was Arab at that time. The words here are taken in essence , no one knows what language Adam spoke.

 

[Justcrazy]

For starters, to become a Hindu, just pick a deity and find the essence of the deity (love, compassion, peace) within yourself. You do not have to recite anything or byheart any mantras or pray at certain times. Do it at your own convenience or you do not have to do anything at all. You are officially a Hindu.

Is that mentioned in Hindu literature or its your opinion ?

 

[Champ_Pal]

Is that mentioned in Hindu literature or its your opinion ?

There are no scriptures that define what a Hindu is. Hinduism is an evolving religion. If it finds something working , it will adopt it even if it from some other religion.
Hindu pantheon of Gods allow a Hindu to choose the deity they want to worship and become a bhakt or devotee of that God. It’s a pick and choose religion. No matter who you decide to worship, the goal is to find the goodness of God within one’s self. Look inward and seek. Not outward.

 

[Champ_Pal]

So could I follow a deity called Allah and eat cow meat and still be considered a Hindu?

There are many Hindus in Tamilnadu that eat beef. But in general, eating beef is frowned upon in India. It is an agrarian country after all.

Yes, try to find Allah SWT within yourself. You can pray or not pray at all. Just light a candle on his name and Meditate on his name.

There is no satan or iblees to worry about. They don’t exist in Hinduism. Evil is within us. Control the evil within ourselves and fill it with the devotion of Allah SWT. You are a Hindu if you do that.

You may find this strange. There are Hindus who only pray to either Vishnu or Shiva. They don’t believe in any other God. They don’t celebrate any festival that does not pertain to their God. Yet they are Hindus.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

There are many Hindus in Tamilnadu that eat beef. But in general, eating beef is frowned upon in India. It is an agrarian country after all.

Yes, try to find Allah SWT within yourself. You can pray or not pray at all. Just light a candle on his name and Meditate on his name.

There is no satan or iblees to worry about. They don’t exist in Hinduism. Evil is within us. Control the evil within ourselves and fill it with the devotion of Allah SWT. You are a Hindu if you do that.

You may find this strange. There are Hindus who only pray to either Vishnu or Shiva. They don’t believe in any other God. They don’t celebrate any festival that does not pertain to their God. Yet they are Hindus.

But what if I wanted to do all those things but call myself a Sikh? Would I still be a Hindu then or a Sikh?

 

[Nikhil_cric]

To be fair it's a bit redundant now. We are unique era where you can be whatever you want especially when you are in a very liberal, tolerant nation like Britain.

https://youtu.be/D2Hd4h_Uifw

I mean if you can be like the blokes above without any issues, is it really necessary to convert to any other religion in this day ad age in a European nation of all places.

 

[Champ_Pal]

But what if I wanted to do all those things but call myself a Sikh? Would I still be a Hindu then or a Sikh?

Call whatever you want. For a Hindu, you are a Hindu as your practices are no different to theirs. In your mind you can be a Sikh.

 

[DesiMunda]

Technically, if you have subcontinental ancestry, you're already a Hindu.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Call whatever you want. For a Hindu, you are a Hindu as your practices are no different to theirs. In your mind you can be a Sikh.

Then would it not be a good idea to have left the Babri Masjid standing then let the Muslims carry on doing their worship as they are, and the Hindus could just say to themselves, that's fine they are all Hindus at the end of the day.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Then would it not be a good idea to have left the Babri Masjid standing then let the Muslims carry on doing their worship as they are, and the Hindus could just say to themselves, that's fine they are all Hindus at the end of the day.

Sure why not. But Rightwing Hindu groups have organized themselves like Abrahamic faiths. They developed the physical approach and it happened since 1980 onwards. I strongly condemn Babri demolition.

Another point to consider is that the Arabic God is not included in the pantheon of Hindu Gods. Someday if Jesus/Yahweh and Allah are added to Hindu pantheon, there will be no issues. This should have been done centuries ago when modern Hinduism was still evolving. It has now become as rigid as Abrahamic faiths.

Even a Sufi Saint like Shirdi Sai Baba was added to the Hindu God's list. Hindus pray to him while Muslims have ignored him. He was given names like Sai-Ram, Sai Krishna etc while Sai Baba himself used to say Allah Malik Hain!! Hinduism is an inclusive religion.

 

[Stewie]

is there no concept of heaven and hell in hinduism? i was told there is not and that you go through incarnations to achieve moksha and when you achieve moksha.. what happens? Can someone clarify?

 

[Justcrazy]

There are no scriptures that define what a Hindu is. Hinduism is an evolving religion. If it finds something working , it will adopt it even if it from some other religion.
Hindu pantheon of Gods allow a Hindu to choose the deity they want to worship and become a bhakt or devotee of that God. It’s a pick and choose religion. No matter who you decide to worship, the goal is to find the goodness of God within one’s self. Look inward and seek. Not outward.

So you want to say a person can do whatever one wants to do. There is No scriptures , no guidelines , absolutely nothing. No base.

If it is so , then there is No religion.

But we find contrary to that in practical life. So where do those practical rituals come ?

 

[Colorblind Genius]

So you want to say a person can do whatever one wants to do. There is No scriptures , no guidelines , absolutely nothing. No base.

If it is so , then there is No religion.

But we find contrary to that in practical life. So where do those practical rituals come ?

It's so messed up that no one actually knows what it is.

I bet if you asked a Hindu 100 years ago ... he would NEVER tell you that "Hinduism is an evolving religion".

This is new concept to avoid the displaying of lack of knowledge. Nice and easy statement to cover it all.

 

[Champ_Pal]

So you want to say a person can do whatever one wants to do. There is No scriptures , no guidelines , absolutely nothing. No base.

If it is so , then there is No religion.

But we find contrary to that in practical life. So where do those practical rituals come ?

There are scriptures. But there is no rule that you have to study it and implement everything in it. There are tons of materials about how to lead one's life. You choose what best suits your life. There is no one size fits all like some religions.

Hinduism was never a religion. It transformed and organized into a religion after Islamic invasions. I have said it many times, Hinduism we see today is the union of several schools of thoughts about God or lack of God and how to attain salvation.

We do not have a manual to refer to in case of crisis. You can follow the Rama way or Krishna way or Shiva Or Buddha or Mahavir's way. They are all Yogis and great men of their time. Hence they are venerated and equated to God for the qualities they exhibited.

Rituals come from Brahmins. So only they perform all the rituals. A common Hindu who is not a Brahmin at best visits temple and observes fasting or celebrates festivals. All of the rituals are strictly restricted to Brahmins.

 

[Champ_Pal]

It's so messed up that no one actually knows what it is.

I bet if you asked a Hindu 100 years ago ... he would NEVER tell you that "Hinduism is an evolving religion".

This is new concept to avoid the displaying of lack of knowledge. Nice and easy statement to cover it all.

It is not messed up. There are lots of schools of thoughts about God and his/her nature. You choose what best suits you.

A 100 years ago, people were under occupation by foreign forces. Occupied since 15th century. They were lucky if they could follow the things they could do today.

In fact, it was a 100 years ago, reformist movements like Brahma Samaj and Arya Samaj were established. Hinduism was evolving right in front of their eyes.

 

[Champ_Pal]

is there no concept of heaven and hell in hinduism? i was told there is not and that you go through incarnations to achieve moksha and when you achieve moksha.. what happens? Can someone clarify?

There are no heaven and hell in Hinduism. Reward and Punishment is an imported thing from Christianity and Islam. Garuda Purana mentions it. It was a later invention. I consider it a joke. Poor Yamraj was made to be the torture boss in hell which he had nothing to do with.

There is only re-birth and moksha(nirvana). If you do bad karma, your soul will be born again. Life is a struggle. It is a punishment to be born again and again in this world and go through struggles. If your good Karma is strong, you will attain moksha and your Atman(soul) will be united with the Paramatma(eternal soul) of God.

 

[The_Odd_One]

A very learned Hindu once told me that Hinduism is a philosophy of life and not a religion. It does not matter if you pray to a specific God or do not pray to anyone, you can still be a Hindu.

In the end, it comes down to what you call yourself. Of course, a Muslim praying to Allah will not accept any other God so as long as you are Muslim, you cannot be Hindu.

 

[The_Odd_One]

So you want to say a person can do whatever one wants to do. There is No scriptures , no guidelines , absolutely nothing. No base.

If it is so , then there is No religion.

But we find contrary to that in practical life. So where do those practical rituals come ?

There are some universal values which are not specific to any religion. A religion should not have to teach you that killing another human is bad. It's something that comes naturally to you. Just because a religious book does not say it explicitly or there is no religious book, it does not mean that humans are free to kill each other for no good reason.

 

[KingKhanWC]

There are some universal values which are not specific to any religion. A religion should not have to teach you that killing another human is bad. It's something that comes naturally to you. Just because a religious book does not say it explicitly or there is no religious book, it does not mean that humans are free to kill each other for no good reason.

Why is killing bad? Does it come naturally to those who murder and continue with a smile with their lives?

 

[The_Odd_One]

Why is killing bad? Does it come naturally to those who murder and continue with a smile with their lives?

Ever heard of mental illness and chemical imbalance in the brain?

 

[KingKhanWC]

Ever heard of mental illness and chemical imbalance in the brain?

So all killers acc to you have a mental illness?

Never mind.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Why is killing bad? Does it come naturally to those who murder and continue with a smile with their lives?

People can kill out of anger or for self protection. They usually have a lot of remorse for their actions after the event. But someone who kills repeatedly and have no remorse is not normal. They are mentally disturbed.

 

[The_Odd_One]

So all killers acc to you have a mental illness?

Never mind.

You did not mention all killers. You mentioned killers who continue in their lives with smile. Yes, they are mentally sick.

 

[KingKhanWC]

You did not mention all killers. You mentioned killers who continue in their lives with smile. Yes, they are mentally sick.

You ever heard of self defence?

 

[Abel Reames]

There are some universal values which are not specific to any religion. A religion should not have to teach you that killing another human is bad. It's something that comes naturally to you. Just because a religious book does not say it explicitly or there is no religious book, it does not mean that humans are free to kill each other for no good reason.

Indeed. You don't need religion to have morals. If you can't determine right from wrong then you lack empathy, not religion.

 

[The_Odd_One]

You ever heard of self defence?

People who kill in self defense are damaged for life. They don't continue on with a smile.

 

[KingKhanWC]

People who kill in self defense are damaged for life. They don't continue on with a smile.

Have you done tests on these people?

So according to the NUMBER 1 hardcore atheist, anyone who kills in self defence is mental.

 

[The_Odd_One]

Indeed. You don't need religion to have morals. If you can't determine right from wrong then you lack empathy, not religion.

There are locations like Australia where religion first reached in the 18th century. They didn't have any religion to follow that could guide them. Yet, they still had morales.

 

[The_Odd_One]

Have you done tests on these people?

So according to the NUMBER 1 hardcore atheist, anyone who kills in self defence is mental.

You are clearly trolling now by attributing things to me that I didn't say.

 

[KingKhanWC]

You are clearly trolling now by attributing things to me that I didn't say.

I wrote

"Why is killing bad? Does it come naturally to those who murder and continue with a smile with their lives?"

You wrote

"Ever heard of mental illness and chemical imbalance in the brain?"

You wrote

"People who kill in self defense are damaged for life. They don't continue on with a smile."

There have been millions of people in armies or police or security who kill people in self defence of themselves or others but so understand this is justified, hence they continue their life with a smile.

How old are you?

 

[Abel Reames]

You are clearly trolling now by attributing things to me that I didn't say.

The strawman.

 

[Stewie]

There are no heaven and hell in Hinduism. Reward and Punishment is an imported thing from Christianity and Islam. Garuda Purana mentions it. It was a later invention. I consider it a joke. Poor Yamraj was made to be the torture boss in hell which he had nothing to do with.

There is only re-birth and moksha(nirvana). If you do bad karma, your soul will be born again. Life is a struggle. It is a punishment to be born again and again in this world and go through struggles. If your good Karma is strong, you will attain moksha and your Atman(soul) will be united with the Paramatma(eternal soul) of God.

So there is a unitary concept of God, a singular creator?

 

[Champ_Pal]

So there is a unitary concept of God, a singular creator?

Hinduism has both monotheistic as well as polytheistic aspects.

If you believe in only one of Shiva or Vishnu or Durga, then you are monotheistic. But these gods are anthropomorphic and Durga is a female God.
If you believe in all the Gods, then you become polytheistic..

 

[IndoorCricket]

So there is a unitary concept of God, a singular creator?

There are many gods in hinduism. But the ultimate source is one.. Brahman. It is the supreme consciousness. Brahman is different from Bramha god.

From wiki :-

In Hinduism, Brahman (Sanskrit: ब्रह्मन्) connotes the highest universal principle, the ultimate reality in the universe.[1][2][3] In major schools of Hindu philosophy, it is the material, efficient, formal and final cause of all that exists.[2][4][5] It is the pervasive, infinite, eternal truth, consciousness and bliss which does not change, yet is the cause of all changes.[1][3][6] Brahman as a metaphysical concept refers to the single binding unity behind diversity in all that exists in the universe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahman

 

[PakLFC]

Some Hindu's love beef too They have no problem in consuming cow beef. They love their kebab's I learnt some interesting things about Hinduism after watching an hour of "Brahmastra".

 

[PakLFC]

The meditation concept in Hinduism is really good. Fascinating to see some sadhu's in the mountains meditating for years. It is so incredible if true. I have also read that most of them live on very little food and water. It is their mind that sustains them.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

There are some universal values which are not specific to any religion. A religion should not have to teach you that killing another human is bad. It's something that comes naturally to you. Just because a religious book does not say it explicitly or there is no religious book, it does not mean that humans are free to kill each other for no good reason.

So then there doesn't seem much point in becoming a Hindu then, we know all of this anyway, we can easily follow these same natural thought processes as Muslims or Christians.

 

[JattMaula]

Genuine question. If I don't live in India, but I like many Buddhist philosophies, how could I actually become a Hindu while still enjoying the taste of meat?

You already are. Enjoy your meat.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

There's your answer folks. Everyone is a Hindu.

 

[JattMaula]

There's your answer folks. Everyone is a Hindu.

Not everyone. Just anyone who wants to be.

 

[Technics 1210]

So to summarise, Hinduism is a fusion of cultures, and not a religion?

 

[JattMaula]

So to summarise, Hinduism is a fusion of cultures, and not a religion?

It's a religion for some and culture for others.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Not everyone. Just anyone who wants to be.

So I guess you could have Proud Paedos of India group openly declaring their allegiance to Hinduism then.

 

[RexRex]

So I guess you could have Proud Paedos of India group openly declaring their allegiance to Hinduism then.

Are they not allowed to declare allegiance to other religions like Islam or Christianity ?

 

[Justcrazy]

Hinduism has both monotheistic as well as polytheistic aspects.

If you believe in only one of Shiva or Vishnu or Durga, then you are monotheistic. But these gods are anthropomorphic and Durga is a female God.
If you believe in all the Gods, then you become polytheistic..

Monotheism and polytheistic are 180 degree different , do you realize that ?

 

[Justcrazy]

There are scriptures. But there is no rule that you have to study it and implement everything in it. There are tons of materials about how to lead one's life. You choose what best suits your life. There is no one size fits all like some religions.

Hinduism was never a religion. It transformed and organized into a religion after Islamic invasions. I have said it many times, Hinduism we see today is the union of several schools of thoughts about God or lack of God and how to attain salvation.

We do not have a manual to refer to in case of crisis. You can follow the Rama way or Krishna way or Shiva Or Buddha or Mahavir's way. They are all Yogis and great men of their time. Hence they are venerated and equated to God for the qualities they exhibited.

Rituals come from Brahmins. So only they perform all the rituals. A common Hindu who is not a Brahmin at best visits temple and observes fasting or celebrates festivals. All of the rituals are strictly restricted to Brahmins.

So , you fundamentally believe that those people were Yogis and not God ?

 

[Justcrazy]

There are some universal values which are not specific to any religion. A religion should not have to teach you that killing another human is bad. It's something that comes naturally to you. Just because a religious book does not say it explicitly or there is no religious book, it does not mean that humans are free to kill each other for no good reason.

Can you specify who formulated these Universal values , and where can I get access to them? You gave example of killing , for hitmen this is business , they do not consider it wrong .

There are many people and groups , who have there own set of values.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Are they not allowed to declare allegiance to other religions like Islam or Christianity ?

I am not trying to understand about Christianity or Islam, there are plenty of threads about those religions. Obviously if I want to become a Hindu I would need to understand from a Hindu point of view why I would choose it.

 

[RexRex]

I am not trying to understand about Christianity or Islam, there are plenty of threads about those religions. Obviously if I want to become a Hindu I would need to understand from a Hindu point of view why I would choose it.

Well, everything is relative innit. Nothing exists in a vaccuum. Your query whether paedophilia is acceptable in Hinduism makes no sense given that no world religion out there has teachings/rules on this topic on what is age-appropriate. Paedophilia is very much a modern age concept.

Hence my reply to your pointless question..

 

[Champ_Pal]

So , you fundamentally believe that those people were Yogis and not God ?

Yes. They were actually men who walked in this earth. Due to their exemplary qualities, people called them as Avatars of God. When you venerate these men, you are essentially venerating the qualities of Gods.

Hinduism is a seeking religion. You seek God and try to find the God within yourself. You control your senses and overcome evil qualities like Kama(want), Lobha (greed), Mada (ego), Matsarya(Miserliness). If you win over your senses, you become a Yogi and venerated by the people. This concept of overcoming senses can be found in Buddhism and Jainism.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Monotheism and polytheistic are 180 degree different , do you realize that ?

Yes. I know that. both concepts are found in Sanatana Dharma.