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How would people react if Vijay Shankar makes it to Team India?

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It is mind boggling.

As bad as India's fast bowling reserves are, even their Under 19s have better pacers than trundlers like Vijay Shankar. It is an embarrassment to see someone as genuinely mediocre like Vijay Shankar represent India at the highest stage and in a tournament final.

Meaning no disrespect but India can certainly field better bowlers.
 
I was watching Gurbani bowl in the Irani Cup and boy he is a mini version of Bhuvi. Same swing and if Gurbani can add pace like Bhuvi did, he can be handy.
 
shariqnoor said:
I was watching Gurbani bowl in the Irani Cup and boy he is a mini version of Bhuvi. Same swing and if Gurbani can add pace like Bhuvi did, he can be handy.
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His effort ball was 125kmph. Please , we have Unadkat.
 
Faster delivery is the variation ball for the Indian bowlers it seems.
 
WengerOut said:
His effort ball was 125kmph. Please , we have Unadkat.
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Yes I know. Bhuvi was quite similar when he started. That's why I'm saying, if he can add pace. Without pace, he's going to be rubbish.
 
I think its a curse for both india and pakistan. For every good batsman we get 100 trundlers and Pakistan get 100 hacks for every good bowler. :inti
 
Shankar is playing the role of all rounder. Not as a pure bowler like Unadkat.

Shankar is a batsman that can bowl medium pace.

People need to explore a bit more about the players before commenting.

It’s unfortumate that Shankar never got to bat in this meaningless cup.
 
TBF if speed guns are to be trusted India's U-19 are bowling faster than these trundlers.
 
Vijay Shankar is playing as batting allrounder. In domestic cricket he is part timer who bowls rarely when needed. Infact he overachieved in this series as he won us a match with his bowling. Can't expect to bowl full spell from a part timer like him.
 
Spectrum said:
Vijay Shankar is playing as batting allrounder. In domestic cricket he is part timer who bowls rarely when needed. Infact he overachieved in this series as he won us a match with his bowling. Can't expect to bowl full spell from a part timer like him.
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Please don't provide facts and context. let the good people of PP enjoy something.
 
Spectrum said:
Vijay Shankar is playing as batting allrounder. In domestic cricket he is part timer who bowls rarely when needed. Infact he overachieved in this series as he won us a match with his bowling. Can't expect to bowl full spell from a part timer like him.
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Good, then what about Siraj, Thakur and Unadkat. What are they playing as? Spinners?
 
Apparently he's a batsman first and foremost, and a part-time bowler.

The bigger issue is how every Indian bowling talent nowadays has the slower off-cutter/knuckle ball as their stock delivery. While Shami and Umesh had issues with control, they atleast had a proper stock seamer.

If this isn't a sign that franchise T20 leagues are killing cricket don't know what is.
 
OP seems to have no idea about Indian cricket. Shankar is a very solid bat and a part time bowler.
 
ravisurya said:
OP seems to have no idea about Indian cricket. Shankar is a very solid bat and a part time bowler.
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He is playing out a maiden with the bat right now.

Indian cricket getting humiliated.
 
Lol don't get the logic of sending a batsman who had never batted in the tournament ahead of Dinesh Kartik in a final. This is going to destroy this guys' confidence in his first innings.
 
The guy is as mediocre with the bat as they come and a terrible bowler.. In short he is a garbage player it feels like T20 internationals has become a place to give mediocrity a chance... Compared to him Pandya feels like second coming of kallis
 
This happens when you have mediocre players like MSK Prasad and co. As selectors.
 
Feeling sad for Agend Vijay. He almost completed his mission of losing the match for India. Damn you DK!
 
I just checked his IPL stats, and he has been downright poor in IPL. I thought IPL was the holy grail for T20 selection for India.
 
Still stand by my comment that this was the last place to throw a completely inexperienced young player to the wolves in a pressure situation. Almost Arsene Wenger-esque.

Apart from that is this guy the best India has to offer though? Looked quite ordinary!
 
cricketjoshila said:
This happens when you have mediocre players like MSK Prasad and co. As selectors.
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Exactly WTH was this, DK and Washington are fine but Shankar? Also he selected trundlers although tbf he is from Andhra and not TN,almost seemed like Venkatesh Prassad was the selector.
 
Why didnt India try out Nagarkoti and mavi? Those 2 are future stars and this was the perfect series to try them out.
 
aloo paratha said:
Why didnt India try out Nagarkoti and mavi? Those 2 are future stars and this was the perfect series to try them out.
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They haven’t played domestic so probably selectors didn’t give them a look.. After 1-2 seasons in domestics if they perform well they will get their chance or maybe if they have exceptional IPL they will be fast tracked into the team..
 
JaDed said:
Exactly WTH was this, DK and Washington are fine but Shankar? Also he selected trundlers although tbf he is from Andhra and not TN,almost seemed like Venkatesh Prassad was the selector.
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You nailed it brother and reminded me of the 90s bunch
 
He's had 2-3 years of good performance in domestic cricket. His averages
- close to 50 in FC cricket
- Batting average of 36 and bowling average of 30 in List A

Did well in limited opportunities in IPL 2017 and did well for India A in the chances he got. He hit 5 6s in an over vs NZ A last year. We are trying to develop him as a batting all rounder. Got nervous today and bottled it with both bat and ball
 
Put Pujara, Laxman in the same position. You would ask how did Pujara, Laxman get into India. It was a slogging situation. This guy is not a slogger. A proper batsman taking his time. Expecting him to slog against a slower ball specialist Fiz was not going to work. He is not great. But he is deifnitely not as bad as you sound. His bowling is mediocre i agree.
 
That was a beastly over from Fizz. When one can't read his hand, one will squat flies with the bat. Bigger issue is the ego on the guy. Why couldn't he just connect and give the strike to Pandey? He went for glory shots and almost the game. His bowling was terrible too and he won't play for India again
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Put Pujara, Laxman in the same position. You would ask how did Pujara, Laxman get into India. It was a slogging situation. This guy is not a slogger. A proper batsman taking his time. Expecting him to slog against a slower ball specialist Fiz was not going to work. He is not great. But he is deifnitely not as bad as you sound. His bowling is mediocre i agree.
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Maybe he scored his runs in domestics against Unadkat or Thakur. When u can't even touch the ball, you can't be called a batsman
 
rhony said:
That was a beastly over from Fizz. When one can't read his hand, one will squat flies with the bat. Bigger issue is the ego on the guy. Why couldn't he just connect and give the strike to Pandey? He went for glory shots and almost the game. His bowling was terrible too and he won't play for India again
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He just panicked
 
rhony said:
Maybe he scored his runs in domestics against Unadkat or Thakur. When u can't even touch the ball, you can't be called a batsman
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Fiz has done the same to main Indain batsmen as well at the start of his career. Probably Shankar seeing him for the first time had trouble picking his slower ones.
 
rhony said:
That was a beastly over from Fizz. When one can't read his hand, one will squat flies with the bat. Bigger issue is the ego on the guy. Why couldn't he just connect and give the strike to Pandey? He went for glory shots and almost the game. His bowling was terrible too and he won't play for India again
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Thankfully selectors and team managements do not have such short term vision. Same guy won a MoM in his last match for his bowling and had three good matches. He can bowl 135 (and with some work can go upto 140) , for a batting all rounder that is good enough. And he's a proper batsman who can hit big and play technically when needed. Could not handle the pressure of the final
 
cricketindiafan said:
Thankfully selectors and team managements do not have such short term vision. Same guy won a MoM in his last match for his bowling and had three good matches. He can bowl 135 (and with some work can go upto 140) , for a batting all rounder that is good enough. And he's a proper batsman who can hit big and play technically when needed. Could not handle the pressure of the final
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A sane post. This guy is still a rookie. If anyone we have to blame here it is Manish Pandey. He was dancing on one leg most of the time before connecting a few.
 
Shankar's batting is not as bad as you guys making it up. Yes! It was a big match final and he was batting for the first time and he panicked. I will not rule him out too early. It's just 1 high pressure match that he batted for the first time. His bowling needs a lot of work though. Unadkat, Thakur and Siraj should nowhere be near the national team ever. Shankar is someone we need to give a little time to and Sundar looks ready already.

Sundar, Shankar, Raina and Karthik - should be given more chances before World Cup 2019.
 
Tyler Durden said:
Shankar's batting is not as bad as you guys making it up. Yes! It was a big match final and he was batting for the first time and he panicked. I will not rule him out too early. It's just 1 high pressure match that he batted for the first time. His bowling needs a lot of work though. Unadkat, Thakur and Siraj should nowhere be near the national team ever. Shankar is someone we need to give a little time to and Sundar looks ready already.

Sundar, Shankar, Raina and Karthik - should be given more chances before World Cup 2019.
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Shankar will not make it because Pandya is there,what shocks me is Shankar is born in Tirunelvelli and still doesn't have the courage to perform on big stage.
 
JaDed said:
Shankar will not make it because Pandya is there,what shocks me is Shankar is born in Tirunelvelli and still doesn't have the courage to perform on big stage.
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Turunalvelli is also famous for halwas. So don't be suprised when shankar gives you halwas like today :P But on a serious note, it was his first game as a batter and to his bad luck, it was a big stage final. So it's understandable that any girl with nerves of steel would panick! Let's not judge his batting abilities just by watching one game.
 
Tyler Durden said:
Turunalvelli is also famous for halwas. So don't be suprised when shankar gives you halwas like today :P But on a serious note, it was his first game as a batter and to his bad luck, it was a big stage final. So it's understandable that any girl with nerves of steel would panick! Let's not judge his batting abilities just by watching one game.
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Was that a typo :)) ,not judging him but he would have to do a lot more to be in blue again,this was his golden opportunity,Karthick and Washington took it.
 
JaDed said:
Was that a typo :)) ,not judging him but he would have to do a lot more to be in blue again,this was his golden opportunity,Karthick and Washington took it.
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My bad! That was indeed a typo ;) Yes! he has a lot to do to get back in the national side again. Sundar is ready and I wouldn't mind having him in the playing 11 in place of Chahal or Kuldeep or even Pandya based on the pitch. Sundar is a clever lad!
 
Sir Vijay Shankar truly deserve that man of the match award. Without his contributions, we wouldn't have witness this epic match.
 
People judging Shankar based on 1 inning and that too this was the first time he was batting in the entire tournament and to husband bad luck, it was a slogging situation with a lot of score board pressure.

Shankar deserves a few more chances before he can be ruled out.

Tough for Shankar as Pandya will take the AR spot. Shankar has to wait for another meaningless tournament or bilateral series.

Pandey is the useless one. After all these matches, he still cannot hit big shots.
 
troodon said:
People judging Shankar based on 1 inning and that too this was the first time he was batting in the entire tournament and to husband bad luck, it was a slogging situation with a lot of score board pressure.

Shankar deserves a few more chances before he can be ruled out.

Tough for Shankar as Pandya will take the AR spot. Shankar has to wait for another meaningless tournament or bilateral series.

Pandey is the useless one. After all these matches, he still cannot hit big shots.
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Very true,he did perform somewhat well in the entire series but again big stage issues, this is the easiest of big stage,it was laid out for him.
 
If he hadn't scored that boundary on the 4th ball and crossed over on the 5th ball, karthik wouldn't have had a chance to do a Miandad on the last ball of the game.. :bm
 
Give him a break. Today was not his day. He was batting for the first time in the series I think - poor guy couldn't handle the pressure.

On the plus side, he seems like a strong lad. Sooner or later, he will connect a few and the rest would be history
 
He still managed almost a run a ball 17 where the so called super stars YET AGAIN failed to deliver on a knock out stage. One has to be very amateur- ish in terms of cricketing knowledge to blame a new guy like this.
It seems the OP never played in any level of professional cricket and is judging a kid...
 
How do guys like these make it to the Indian Cricket Team? By performing in domestic cricket consistently.
Give him a break! Yeah, it was not his day and he almost made a meal out of the chase and it happened to be a Final. But the guy was not selected in the team through a fluke knock in some domestic tournament, but by performing consistently in his first class career.
One game and that too in his first international series is too short a time to judge him. He may well turn out to be a dud, but to label him that without giving him enough chances would be reactionary and unfair.
How did Stuart Broad turn out to be after getting hit for six 6's in a World Cup knockout match?
Calm down, fellas!
 
Wow what an over reaction thread. Vijay Shankar just batted once in this entire series. We cannot call for his head because he failed in one game. People can have such games in their careers where you become nervous and miss the plot completely. Remember Zaheer Khan in 2003 WC finals and the ICC Knock out trophy finals? Give him a break, he will come through. We cannot be throwing good talents just after one good performance.
 
giri26 said:
Wow what an over reaction thread. Vijay Shankar just batted once in this entire series. We cannot call for his head because he failed in one game. People can have such games in their careers where you become nervous and miss the plot completely. Remember Zaheer Khan in 2003 WC finals and the ICC Knock out trophy finals? Give him a break, he will come through. We cannot be throwing good talents just after one good performance.
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Failed is an understatement. Dude couldn't put bat to ball. Calling him a good talent is an abomination. He looks a decent fielder. He is a trundler if ever there was one and a big time blind slogger. Not sure if his game suits ODIs where he gets to play in as per some posters here but he isn't cut out for T20s.
 
lehen said:
He still managed almost a run a ball 17 where the so called super stars YET AGAIN failed to deliver on a knock out stage. One has to be very amateur- ish in terms of cricketing knowledge to blame a new guy like this.
It seems the OP never played in any level of professional cricket and is judging a kid...
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You are actually not serious are you?

He gave away 48 runs and then scored 1 run off 5 balls when chasing 35 of 18. This was one of worst performances ever by anyone in international cricket. Of course questions will be asked how someone so bad made it to the team.
 
He shouldn't be anywhere near the team. Atrocious will be a mild description.
 
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