How would you compare Kamran Ghulam to Mohammad Nawaz and Imad Wasim?

[LegbreakGoogly]

I thought Kamran Ghulam was the guy who was realy expolusive batter in his under-19 days. and today seeing him bowl , he looks a better spinner then atleast Imad. whats your say guys. could he be the allrounder we are looking for?

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

great potential with the bat and a natural athlete

I actually like him more then Nawaz, but he hasnt had the same amount of opportunities.

He is a better batsman and nawaz the better bowler.

both are quite raw though

 

[LegbreakGoogly]

Also he has the ability to smash big in the later overs. Which we lack these days in loi's.

 

[#GreenRoars]

Kamran Ghulam, i always rated him highly. But in all domestic tournaments, he didnt impress much. Though he has potential, no doubt about it and have the capability to perform better than both Imad and Nawaz.

But currently, Imad and Nawaz are ahead of him.

 

[Muhammad Saad]

Hussain Talat and Amir yamin are the only players worthy of being called an allrounders also Kamran Ghulam is not far behind too , hopefully he will learn how to turn it more in future.

 

[Boycottisno2]

Mohammed Nawaz is the person who will be permanent fixture in Pak team for next 10 years....

You cannot dump someone after a match or two..... like it usually happen in Pak cricket previously ....

Go Nawaz Go

 

[Bewal Express]

A little improvement since the U19 days, pace was a little quicker(which it needed to be) and an arm ball has been developed and really well bowled but the bread and butter of sharp spin isn't there and I suspect never will be. At this point in time he is on par with the the other 2 but not better.

 

[The Last Of The Stars]

I like him, bowled a great spell today, can be a superior batting all rounder than Nawaz and Hafeez, but should prove himself in the upcoming domestic season, especially List A and FC.

 

[Faisalsq092]

Seemed a better prospect than many during his U-19 days but have a gone a bit off radar recently. Always thought he might be getting a chance much before Nawaz.

 

[Hawkeye]

We've started investing in mediocrity like Nawaz and Imad.

Kamran has potential.

 

[Justcrazy]

Pakistan need players who can perform at top levels. Just need to give proper opportunities to those who are already selected.

 

[street cricketer]

Isn't he the one who idolises Sir Jaddu?

He will be a fine player.

 

[Ellipsism]

Kamran is one of those guys that has loads of potential and talent but never performs. He's the Umar Akmal of the Pakistan Domestic set up.

 

[JibranAnsari]

Has pretty good stats in t20 and list A. Has a batting average if fifty in first class.

 

[hur rizvi]

Needs to play some consistent cricket to get in contention

 

[Greenstorm]

He is certainly a better prospect than imad and I consider him as one of the best fielders in Pakistan.

 

[DRsohail]

[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] for me this guy is better for t20 than the likes of nawaz and Asghar.

 

[Abdullah719]

[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] for me this guy is better for t20 than the likes of nawaz and Asghar.

For some reason Peshawar benched him in the National T20 Cup. He only played the last two matches and didn't do too well.

Has had a good season in the Quaid-e-Azam Trophy with the bat though.

 

[DRsohail]

For some reason Peshawar benched him in the National T20 Cup. He only played the last two matches and didn't do too well.

Has had a good season in the Quaid-e-Azam Trophy with the bat though.

he di well with the ball .was spinning it against faisalabad but his batting was not good,may be lack of confidence,
should have been in psl,but Misbah destroyed his chances by giving him just one match in psl 2 and then no one bothered to pick him.

 

[pkwdpassion]

Kamran Ghulam has had a pretty below average Natl T20 cup he played in 2 matches and made very low scores. Nawaz has had a better tournament compared to him. Ghulam was good with the bowling though turning the bowl in match against Faisalabad with helpful spin conditions. He was difficult to playalso has a superior average than Nawaz in first class, despite this fact Nawaz also turns the bowl, is mentally tough and a good fielder. In T20 match against Sri Lanka he alone took 2 catches and one direct hit to dismiss three Sri Lankans. Sarfraz gave him the last over against Peshawar in the PSL playoffs and he pulled it off.

 

[DRsohail]

Kamran Ghulam has had a pretty below average Natl T20 cup he played in 2 matches and made very low scores. Nawaz has had a better tournament compared to him. Ghulam was good with the bowling though turning the bowl in match against Faisalabad with helpful spin conditions. He was difficult to playalso has a superior average than Nawaz in first class, despite this fact Nawaz also turns the bowl, is mentally tough and a good fielder. In T20 match against Sri Lanka he alone took 2 catches and one direct hit to dismiss three Sri Lankans. Sarfraz gave him the last over against Peshawar in the PSL playoffs and he pulled it off.

thats after 2 years with the national team on off.and regularly playing psl under sarfarz while the other have been completely ignored,,nawaz batting has not improved much .

 

[MMHS]

[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] for me this guy is better for t20 than the likes of nawaz and Asghar.

No idea of KG, but heard that his hitting ability is good.

Nawaz is a bang average player with very limited capacity but every tool in disposal, who'll look greater the lower the level goes, because he can do everything at a lower level. For example, he will be the ultimate Value for Money player in Dhaka League - in 14 matches, he'll score 400+ runs from No. 5 at 50+/100+ stats and then bowl full 140 overs for 25+ wickets at <25/4.5 sort of stats; make that same 14 matches against BD national team, his stats will have multiple times discounts. In short, we are talking about the bowling heavy version of MoHa.

Asghar has the potential to be specialist spinner, provided that Captain & Coach trusts him. At the moment, he doesn't bat, so chances are high that on rank turners Arthur would pick Imad for his potential of 18/19 batting average while on less spin friendly wickets (say Test wickets of UAE), he'll carry drinks for Abbas.

I won't pick Asghar for ODI because that needs multiple skills - in Test, he can bowl 75 overs or in T20 he can bowl 4 overs between 7-15 overs & don't bother for batting in either case.

 

[DRsohail]

No idea of KG, but heard that his hitting ability is good.

Nawaz is a bang average player with very limited capacity but every tool in disposal, who'll look greater the lower the level goes, because he can do everything at a lower level. For example, he will be the ultimate Value for Money player in Dhaka League - in 14 matches, he'll score 400+ runs from No. 5 at 50+/100+ stats and then bowl full 140 overs for 25+ wickets at <25/4.5 sort of stats; make that same 14 matches against BD national team, his stats will have multiple times discounts. In short, we are talking about the bowling heavy version of MoHa.

Asghar has the potential to be specialist spinner, provided that Captain & Coach trusts him. At the moment, he doesn't bat, so chances are high that on rank turners Arthur would pick Imad for his potential of 18/19 batting average while on less spin friendly wickets (say Test wickets of UAE), he'll carry drinks for Abbas.

I won't pick Asghar for ODI because that needs multiple skills - in Test, he can bowl 75 overs or in T20 he can bowl 4 overs between 7-15 overs & don't bother for batting in either case.

trust me this guy name Kamran has upper ceiling than Nawaz in both departments and even he is a good fielder. under proper guidance he would have been regular in our Loi.even in u19 days he was better than the captains buddy.

 

[MMHS]

trust me this guy name Kamran has upper ceiling than Nawaz in both departments and even he is a good fielder. under proper guidance he would have been regular in our Loi.even in u19 days he was better than the captains buddy.

How those two are buddies - one is born in Karachi, another one Rawalpindi; one is officially 23, another one 30; one is spinner, another one WK (can't be long term bowling camp mate).

It can be (buddy of Sarfraz), but my hunch is Nawaz's biggest fan is Arthur & I have explained the reason. Last year, same time I had a disgusting task of arguing with Junaids - who unveiled a 35+/<38 average Test all-rounder with 10 Test hundreds out of Nawaz, and I know the school of such thoughts .... Aussies showed that at Gabba recently.

 

[CadPakFan]

Won't do too much harm to give him a go, has good potential, seems much better than Nawaz and Imad.

 

[Hasan123]

Needs to perform consistently at domestic level. He certainly has the talent.

 

[DRsohail]

How those two are buddies - one is born in Karachi, another one Rawalpindi; one is officially 23, another one 30; one is spinner, another one WK (can't be long term bowling camp mate).

It can be (buddy of Sarfraz), but my hunch is Nawaz's biggest fan is Arthur & I have explained the reason. Last year, same time I had a disgusting task of arguing with Junaids - who unveiled a 35+/<38 average Test all-rounder with 10 Test hundreds out of Nawaz, and I know the school of such thoughts .... Aussies showed that at Gabba recently.

bits and pieces,understand the logic of junaid who was willin to take usman qadir to aus over yasir for his batting abilities,

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Kamran Ghulam is only spinner in Pakistan who can bowl a knuckleball like Rangana Herath.

He is having an excellent season with both bat and ball.

Was unfairly dropped from PSL with very few chances.


He is far better than Imad and Nawaz, is super fit, athletic and brilliant fielder.



Inzamam-ul-Haq must keep an eye on this Lad.

 

[Abdullah719]

Domestic cricket performances so far this season:

 

[Nasty Naz]

His batting in LOI doesn't really jump off the page 45.26 average in FC with 4 hundreds in 17 games is pretty good. Meanwhile, his stats in FC haven't been great but they have been in LOI.

He's been batting well in List A this season though and hitting at a great strike rate too. Certainly has more upside with his batting than Nawaz or Imad.

 

[DRsohail]

Guy is doing wonders this year. Should be picked in PSL.

 

[moghul]

Kamran Ghulam is only spinner in Pakistan who can bowl a knuckleball like Rangana Herath.

He is having an excellent season with both bat and ball.

Was unfairly dropped from PSL with very few chances.


He is far better than Imad and Nawaz, is super fit, athletic and brilliant fielder.



Inzamam-ul-Haq must keep an eye on this Lad.

Inzi cannot keep an eye on more than one left hander at a time .

 

[ShahidDar08]

His height is the major cause, i think he's 5 feet tall, won't be effective as a bowler and as far as his batting is concerned I doubt he won't clear even 30 yard circle.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

[MENTION=138958]Khan12[/MENTION]

I am replying to your last post here

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...-10-2018-Day-1-Thread&p=10024256#post10024256

in this thread.


Look you have changed your argument after each post.


1. First you said that Kamran Ghulam should have been in playing eleven ahead of Zeeshan Ashraf whom you called a hack.


Zeeshan is fresh from 166 * innings in List A tournament. In his short List A career he averages 42+ with a SR of 98.



Than you shifted your point to


2. Number of bowling options available


And finally to


3. Kamran missing out because he is from kpk




a. Well Umaid Asif is an allrounder who has recently performed well for Pakistan A.

b. Wahab Riaz has played for Pakistan in all formats. When Lhr have picked a seasoned senior (top performer of last PSL) why would they bench him ?

c. Bilal Asif has reprrsented Pakistan in two formats if not three. Why would they bench him ?

d. Hassan Khan was picked not just for two three PSL stincts but has recently played in T10 league aswell. He is highly rated player.

e. Zafar Gohar missed playing Test for Pakistan because he overslept and is being taught a lesson for that otherwise he would have been in Pak playing eleven at the moment in atleast two formats. But he deserves a go in Lhr team for his current performances.



Kamran missed out solely due to a tough competition for places in playing eleven. He would be knowing that aswell.
Soon he will be given chance but those selected already in eleven should be given 2-3 matches atleast and than anyone should be dropped. Injurues can also happen.


Be patient kindly.



Kamran Ghulam deservedly got picked by IU and did not get optimum chances to show his metal or may be some one at IU got offended.



I rate him higher than Nawaz & Imad and he should continue producing the numbers required and aim for slot in Pakistan A. Only disadvantage is height which means he gets minimum bounce and can be easily hit out if he slightly misses his length. So he should further fine tune his bowling lengths. That's all.


If He remains focussed, determined, disciplined and keeps up the hardwork than I see him playing for Pakistan within next 24 months. (If he remains fit)

 

[Khan12]

[MENTION=138958]Khan12[/MENTION]

I am replying to your last post here

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...-10-2018-Day-1-Thread&p=10024256#post10024256

in this thread.


Look you have changed your argument after each post.


1. First you said that Kamran Ghulam should have been in playing eleven ahead of Zeeshan Ashraf whom you called a hack.


Zeeshan is fresh from 166 * innings in List A tournament. In his short List A career he averages 42+ with a SR of 98.



Than you shifted your point to


2. Number of bowling options available


And finally to


3. Kamran missing out because he is from kpk




a. Well Umaid Asif is an allrounder who has recently performed well for Pakistan A.

b. Wahab Riaz has played for Pakistan in all formats. When Lhr have picked a seasoned senior (top performer of last PSL) why would they bench him ?

c. Bilal Asif has reprrsented Pakistan in two formats if not three. Why would they bench him ?

d. Hassan Khan was picked not just for two three PSL stincts but has recently played in T10 league aswell. He is highly rated player.

e. Zafar Gohar missed playing Test for Pakistan because he overslept and is being taught a lesson for that otherwise he would have been in Pak playing eleven at the moment in atleast two formats. But he deserves a go in Lhr team for his current performances.



Kamran missed out solely due to a tough competition for places in playing eleven. He would be knowing that aswell.
Soon he will be given chance but those selected already in eleven should be given 2-3 matches atleast and than anyone should be dropped. Injurues can also happen.


Be patient kindly.



Kamran Ghulam deservedly got picked by IU and did not get optimum chances to show his metal or may be some one at IU got offended.



I rate him higher than Nawaz & Imad and he should continue producing the numbers required and aim for slot in Pakistan A. Only disadvantage is height which means he gets minimum bounce and can be easily hit out if he slightly misses his length. So he should further fine tune his bowling lengths. That's all.


If He remains focussed, determined, disciplined and keeps up the hardwork than I see him playing for Pakistan within next 24 months. (If he remains fit)

I didn't change my argument at all. I just made came up with up if they wanted to play him they could have. Plus you have ignored my whole post about 6 genuine bowling option in t20. Khurram manzoor averges over 50 in list a doesn't mean much. I saw zeeshan play and he looked awful and that's my assessment regarding him. Kamran ghulam is a much better batsmens then him. You said he was a wicket keeper then I said kamran or umar could have kept. So wahab should bat at 6 because he played for Pakistan. Umaid Asif is a bowling all rounder not a batting, plus he's too old wahab and bibal Asif have proved time and time again they are not international class. For the balance of the side kamran will look much better then then the names you have mentioned. I have said it few times being from kpk you don't get much supoort. Who is their right mind will rate Hassan Khan higher then kamran ghulam. I don't care whatever leagues Hassan Khan plays at the moment Mohammed Nawaz is a better player then him which is saying something. The fact is if kamran ghulam was from another province I am sure he would have already played for us.


I am aware of his height we shouldn't play him as a bowling all rounder rather a batting all rounder he bats much better then some in our national team.

 

[ShahidDar08]

All of them are average players.