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I am in a batting slump, admits Joe Root

Joe Root has denied that being England captain is affecting his batting after he endured his least productive Test match with the bat since September 2017.

Root admitted that his form is poor and he was having a “rough time” as England sank to a crushing defeat by New Zealand by an innings and 65 runs in the first Test at the Bay Oval.

The 28-year-old’s average has dropped from 54.36 when he took over the captaincy in July 2017 to 47.34 and he now averages below 40 since being appointed. It is that slump and the manner of the loss in Mount Maunganui that raise fresh questions over whether he is the right man to lead England.

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However, he insisted it was “an easy excuse” to say his captaincy had led to his poor form with the bat. “I’ve had a rough time in terms of scores,” he said. “I’m working hard. You have to go through a bit of a dip. The fact I’m captain, it’s an easy excuse to use. I’m going to have to keep trusting my game because I’ve got a lot in the bank. I must not overthink things and just try to find that rhythm which allows me to get my innings off and running.”

Root said that England would continue with their policy of attritional batting despite numerous wickets falling to indisciplined shots. He said that watching New Zealand bat 14 hours for a score of 615 for nine declared confirmed that the approach was the right one. “It’s proven to work,” he said, but added: “It’s going to take time.” Whether it works for Root himself, as a free-flowing batsman who when playing well often scores his first 20 runs quickly, remains to be seen.

“That ball [which he got out to in the second innings] was treated with too much respect,” he said. “Sometimes when you find yourself in a situation like that you can get a bit too insular, too negative, and that’s where I found myself: trying to find your way into an innings, not give anything away.”

Root said England decided on their change of approach during the Ashes and while it may work, his own form has been ropey throughout that period: he is averaging 26.5 since July.

“There was a period during the Ashes where we looked to try to find ways of managing on a good surface against a very disciplined attack,” he said. “It’s evolved from that and it’s clear here that it’s a method that works.

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“We want to play in a way very different to how we’ve played in our conditions and it’s going to take time. We’ve got a couple of new guys in the team, some fresh faces that are at the start of their careers, and we have to learn from these experiences.

“It’s always tough when you play abroad but if we continue to play in this manner and not be too harsh on ourselves then we will become more consistent [and] score runs more frequently. The way we played on the first day, that’s how we want to go about it. It’s a lesson that has to be learnt fast.”

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/...cuse-for-my-poor-form-says-joe-root-n8qhhpp3b
 
He should slump himself back into the runs buy relinquishing the captaincy. My vote is for Burns who has been an effective skipper for Surrey.
 
The problem with Root is very simple, he still looks and speaks like a boy.

There is nothing assertive about him, in fact, I would say he is more in the insecure and fickle side. He himself can neither decide nor assert which position he will play in a Test XI. He is sticking with T20 when the stats suggest he is not suited for the format. I mean the guy is so soft spoken, he would effectively be useless when it comes to sledging.

This is why Captaincy doesn't work with him; you need a strong personality/character, and England captaincy simply does not suit his boy-ish personality.
 
You're not in any slump.

You're tracking perfectly normally for an England player - you'll end up with an average of 43 and be good in 1 format out of 3, while somehow getting a knighthood along the way for beating Australia in a home series.
 
After England's first Test defeat to New Zealand, Nasser Hussain looks at Joe Root's slump with the bat, the effect the captaincy is having and why a team batting policy is not the answer to the current problems…

England haven't got as many world class players as we'd like in the batting department, let's be honest. Since the retirement of that wonderful batting line-up of Alastair Cook, Andrew Strauss, Jonathan Trott, Kevin Pietersen etcetera, there has been a decline in our red-ball batting

I think we have two world-class batsmen in our side at the minute and they are Ben Stokes and Joe Root. And over the last five years or so, certainly before this year, Root has been absolutely phenomenal.

He is one of the great players that we have produced in red-ball and white-ball cricket, he is an outstanding player and, for me, more important than his captaincy is that Joe goes back to batting as well as he has done in the past.

What amazes me - and this has been missed over the past couple of days - is that Joe hasn't been through this sort of mini-slump, as he calls it, before. It is amazing how consistent he has been and we've actually marvelled at that consistency over the years. I would look up in the commentary box and he is 40 not out again, he very rarely gets out for low scores.

This is part of a development as an international cricketer, you go through these phases whoever you are. I think Sachin Tendulkar probably did it when he was on 99 hundreds but Joe is going through it now. Let's not presume that the captaincy is affecting his batting, that is an easy assumption to make.

Look at Virat Kohli, Kane Williamson, Ricky Ponting, Mike Atherton, Graham Gooch or whoever and it shows that you can bat just as well as captain. At the moment though, I see Joe as being a little bit weighed down by the expectation and the pressures of captaincy, just in his body language.

When he speaks to Ian Ward at the cart, in a white-ball game he is full of energy, he is bubbly, he is cheeky and he has no responsibility apart from scoring runs. Even when they had a bad-ish day and he's got runs, he's still in love with the game and has that buzz about him.

In Test match cricket even when they've had a reasonably good day, I see a lad who is trying to be captain and looks like the weight of the world is on his shoulders, like he is trying to overcomplicate and overthink when actually Joe plays at his best when he is not overcomplicating or overthinking.

That is another thing but when I watched Joe bat in the summer, I didn't think he needed an overhaul of his technique which is what he has gone away and done a little bit. I thought he just needed a bit of tinkering, he was just a little bit out of sync with his movement, he was getting a bit planted rather than tap-and-go.

I might be wrong, Joe knows his game better than anyone and he might think he needs these extravagant movements that he is doing.

The double-whammy is doing all that and having the captaincy. If he is going to stay as captain then he is going to need help, Chris Silverwood as head coach is going to need to alleviate the pressure and with two or three days between Tests, he needs to say to Joe "go away and work on your batting, we need Joe Root the world-class batsman back. I'll look after the various other things, you go and work on your batting."

Ashley Giles might well have been talking in response to a question when he said Joe would still be captain for the next Ashes series and in his position, of course you have to back your captain, you can't just say "well, we'll see". But I don't think you can back your captain for a series that is still 25 Test matches away, especially given what they have beforehand.

A five-Test tour of India for a start, look what happened to Alastair Cook at the end of that. What you need and this is what Duncan Fletcher used to say about me when I was going through a bad patch, "oh Nass is a bit of an all-rounder, it's not just his batting, he's got the captaincy as well" so Joe needs one of his two disciplines to fire.

At the moment, neither is particularly firing. Which is the most important? For me, it is his batting. That is the one you most want to fire and for that to happen you need him to go back to enjoying his cricket, not overcomplicating or overthinking it.

'Play the situation'
I also think it can confuse the whole team if you have some kind of team policy of needing to bat time. No, you don't need to bat time, you need to get runs. It is not how long you bat, it is how many you get.

I applaud the fact that they have gone back to the more old-fashioned occupy-the-crease openers in Rory Burns, Dom Sibley, Zak Crawley, Joe Denly or whoever but that middle-order has been dynamic for England and has rescued them over the last few years. The likes of Root, Stokes, Jos Buttler, Jonny Bairstow, Moeen Ali have been brilliant.

Stokes' innings at Headingley, for instance, wasn't just occupying the crease. That was application, playing the situation, batting for the next day when he first came in and then when Jack Leach came in, smash it. Buttler has done it on a number of occasions, occupy the crease and then smash when it gets down to batting with nine, 10 and 11.

I couldn't have gone and told Atherton or Alec Stewart how to bat, they know how to bat. It is about getting runs and at that level you shouldn't be telling people "we're going to occupy the crease." You have got to his level, how have you got runs? Play that way. Get runs, that is all that counts.

Play the situation, play what is in front of you. We need to produce cricketers who can think for themselves and play the situation. That is why I held Stokes up as the template the other day. Over the last year or two, Stokes - in any format - has played the situation absolutely perfectly. That should be the template of how we want our cricketers to perform.

Archer can't be the answer to every problem
If you're not getting runs then you can try to get a bit smart as a captain. Players are looking at you and because you're not getting runs you can think "I'll win this game by my captaincy" or try and be a bit smart and almost try and reinvent the wheel.

I think that is a dangerous road to go down.

When it comes to the results away from home, everyone is having a go at Root but this has been a problem for a long time. England away from home is the major thing on Giles' to-do list. Strauss did it as a captain but he never really solved it as a director of cricket in as much as away from home, our results have been poor.

We don't score enough runs, at home 350 is a good score and will win you Test match but away from home, as we've just seen, 350 can leave you vulnerable and you can end up losing.

Stuart Broad and Jimmy Anderson have been phenomenal at home but away from home with a finger spinner and medium-quicks, however much Root shuffles it, he is still going to have the same pack of cards.

We saw that in Australia in the last Ashes so England need to start looking at quicker, skiddier bowlers. We had Darren Gough and Craig White with slingier actions, who tried to reverse it and take the pitch out of the equation.

Root does need to learn to use Jofra Archer a bit better but I'm getting a bit fed up of everything either being Archer's fault or Root's fault for how he uses Archer. "Archer should take the new ball", "Henry Nicholls has been peppered the night before so Archer should start the next morning", "we need a go-to enforcer, we'll have Archer", "we need someone to clean up the tail, that's Archer". Then he ends up bowling 42 overs and people wonder why his speeds are down!

It has got to be a balanced attack where other people contribute. If you look at the two best attacks at the moment, Australia have got Mitchell Starc, Josh Hazlewood, Pat Cummins, James Pattinson all backed up by Nathan Lyon, with India there is Jasprit Bumrah, Mohamed Shami, Umesh Yadav and Ishant Sharma backed up by two very good spinners.

With us, it seems to be Archer or bust and he will go bust if we keep going down that road.

Root needs to learn that if he does have this extra pace available, how and when to use it. There is plenty there to build on, plenty of opportunities and I wouldn't write off Joe as a captain.

After this second Test in Hamilton, his next tour is South Africa. It is not an easy tour but South Africa are vulnerable at the moment. They are probably a side you'd want to see at the moment if you are struggling, albeit preferable at home.

There are opportunities for Joe to start winning games but A, he needs to get better and B, English cricket needs to give him a better set of cards to help him improve

https://www.skysports.com/cricket/n...portant-than-his-captaincy-say-nasser-hussain
 
England captain Joe Root has dropped out of the top 10 of the Test batting rankings for the first time since August 2014.

Root, 28, has fallen to 11th after a disappointing performance in England's first-Test defeat by New Zealand, where he scored two and 11.

The Yorkshire player's average in 2019 is 27.40 from 10 Tests, compared with 47.35 over his career as a whole.

Root was the world's number one batsman in August 2015.

Root has scored 16 hundreds in 87 Tests, but only three have come in his past 29 matches and he did not score a century in this summer's Ashes series against Australia.

His figures have also dropped since he took over the England Test captaincy in 2017. He averages 39.70 since succeeding Alastair Cook, compared with 52.80 beforehand.

After Monday's defeat at the Bay Oval, Root said he was "not too worried", adding that the captaincy was not to blame for his form.

"Sometimes players go through phases of their career where they are not as consistent or make the scores they would like," Root said.

"I'm not too worried about it and this game in particular I found two dreadful ways to get out - but I'm not far away."

All-rounder Ben Stokes is now the highest-ranked England player in the batting rankings after climbing to a career-high ninth, having already been third in the all-rounder rankings.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/50556341
 
You're not in any slump.

You're tracking perfectly normally for an England player - you'll end up with an average of 43 and be good in 1 format out of 3, while somehow getting a knighthood along the way for beating Australia in a home series.

England have won a Test series in India, Australia and South Africa in this decade in addition to winning the World Cup. They have spent time at the top of the rankings in all three formats as well.

No team comes close to the heights they have scaled in this decade. India are a distant second.
 
England have won a Test series in India, Australia and South Africa in this decade in addition to winning the World Cup. They have spent time at the top of the rankings in all three formats as well.

No team comes close to the heights they have scaled in this decade. India are a distant second.

We have won a world cup and Champions trophy too in this decade, albeit our away record isn't as bright as England's but have done way better at home. With due respect to you 'Distant Second' is a bit of an exaggeration. Now I am not a stats and spreadsheet guy but I am pretty sure we have similar win loss ratio in all formats or perhaps even better.
 
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We have won a world cup and Champions trophy too in this decade, albeit our away record isn't as bright as England's but have done way better at home. With due respect to you 'Distant Second' is a bit of an exaggeration. Now I am not a stats and spreadsheet guy but I am pretty sure we have similar win loss ratio in all formats or perhaps even better.

For me the highs matter more than consistency. For example, I wouldn’t mind Pakistan winning the World Cup, winning Test series in places like India, Australia and England and then lose a few matches at home or to lowly sides.

India have been incredibly consistent in this decade, but they haven’t hit the peaks of England. They would have had they won in South Africa or England.

What England have achieved in this decade cannot be downplayed. Winning Test series in Australia, India, South Africa and winning the World Cup is everything that a cricket team can dream to achieve today.
 
For me the highs matter more than consistency. For example, I wouldn’t mind Pakistan winning the World Cup, winning Test series in places like India, Australia and England and then lose a few matches at home or to lowly sides.

India have been incredibly consistent in this decade, but they haven’t hit the peaks of England. They would have had they won in South Africa or England.

What England have achieved in this decade cannot be downplayed. Winning Test series in Australia, India, South Africa and winning the World Cup is everything that a cricket team can dream to achieve today.

Fair enough although I still have reservations about 'Distant second' considering they lost at home against SL, lost 3 tests to Pakistan and lost to WI away and those are pretty damn lows. No downplaying at all just think that maybe they are not as far ahead of India in terms of performance as you think they are. I agree that we haven't hit as many peaks as England in terms of winning away, full credit to them and winning in SA was particularly impressive.
 
Ben Stokes: England Test captain Joe Root backed by players, says all-rounder

Test captain Joe Root is "England's best player" and has the "full support" of his team-mates, says all-rounder Ben Stokes.

Root, 28, has been criticised after the tourists' defeat by New Zealand in the opening match of their two-Test series.

He made two and 11 at the Bay Oval and has dropped out of the top 10 of the Test batting rankings for the first time since August 2014.

"We stick together and we hold our hands up together," said Stokes.

Root's average in 2019 is 27.40 from 10 Tests, compared with 47.35 over his career as a whole.

Since succeeding Alastair Cook as Test captain in 2017, the Yorkshire batsman's average has fallen from 52.80 to 39.70.

"He is England's best player and he knows he has got the full support of us in the changing room," added 28-year-old Stokes.

"The pressures of being England Test captain are huge. It can be one of the most criticised jobs in England at times - sometimes unfairly, I would say.

"There are 11 guys out on the field in a game who contribute to a win or loss. It doesn't all fall on the captain."

Stokes also revealed how England coach Chris Silverwood sought his advice about whether he should fly home following a family bereavement.

The second Test at Seddon Park starts on Thursday (22:00 GMT) and Silverwood will leave after day two, with assistants Graham Thorpe and Paul Collingwood, along with Root, taking over for the remainder of the tour.

"Family always comes first, no matter where you are in the world or what situation the team finds itself in," said Stokes.

"He asked my opinion and I said: 'From my point of view, you need to get yourself back home.'

"We do all the tactical analysis so, once we get going, the onus will be on the players. Chris going home won't be a distraction to us."
https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/50569979
 
This suggests that he is not captaincy material. He can't captain and keep his own performance high. Either way, he isn't a spectacular captain. Give it to Stokes.
 
You're not in any slump.

You're tracking perfectly normally for an England player - you'll end up with an average of 43 and be good in 1 format out of 3, while somehow getting a knighthood along the way for beating Australia in a home series.

Spot on. They all progress up to a point and gradually regress. Trott, Cook, Root. Strauss was averaging 50 at some point ended up with 40.
 
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