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Chappell launched a scathing attack on the Pakistan skipper while watching Australia take the visitors to task in the first session of the New Year's Test.

Misbah, 42, dismissed suggestions he should stand down before the match, telling reporters he wasn't ready to retire.

But Chappell said on Macquarie Radio it shouldn't have been up to Misbah to decide.

"This business that it's 'up to Misbah' whether he wants to play or not – that's rubbish - it's up to the selectors," Chappell said.

"Is Misbah good enough to be in the cricket team? No, not at the moment.

"His captaincy is very ordinary and his batting is horrible – he should have been out.

"Particularly in a dead series.

"The man's 42 – give somebody who you think has got a bit of a future in the game a match at the SCG and find out something about them.

"But this business of waiting to see when Misbah wants to retire – rubbish - sack him if he's not good enough."

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket...ulhaq-before-sydney-test-20170103-gtl4ua.html
 
Butt out Chapelli, cricket is different in different countries and you dont get to tell others how to manage thier own business.
 
Chappell usually gives his atrocious suggestions but this was an obvious one if Misbah was to retire ,if he ll be playing in Windies then dont think so.
 
The way he said it was wrong,it's not his place to tell us how to go about our business.

But he's right,Misbah should have retired.
 
Chappel gives free advice to every visiting side on what to do and what no do even if nobody asks his opinion
 
Thats not how things are done in subcontinent though.

If you are a captain or senior player, you are entitled to a send off series, at a time and place of your choosing.

For some even fixtures are altered for a dream farewell :srt
 
Bob Willis and Chappell are similar in the way they blurt out what comes to mind.
 
Fantastic!

Australia owes Ian Chappell a huge amount - he really introduced the mentality of quitting at the top, not hanging on til you reach Rock Bottom.

Misbah and Younis have no "right" to decide when to leave.

It is the responsibility of the selectors to dump them unceremoniously NOW that the players themselves have failed to jump before they can be pushed.

Misbah really sucked all the Oxygen out of this team at Sydney.

From the first Grandpa misfield to the negative fields and bowling plans. Plus of course the completely unsuitable squad for the conditions.

He used to be a decent player and skipper. He's just an embarrassment now who is dragging his team down.
 
Unfortunately Chapelli doesn't understand the subcontinent seniority culture.

He is a radical on that side ,imagine Sachin retiring before we reached our #1 ranking don't think we would had reached,Sachin had good away tours till 2010 and this guy wanted himto retire in 2007,cant imagine winning VB series as well.
 
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What he doesn't know is that Misbah wanted to retire last year after the England tour, his goal was to play his final series against India. It was the PCB that made him stay on for the southern tours.
 
Spot on Chappel. But Pakistani chairman is going to request Misbah to request misbah with folded hand's to plz continue till 2022.
 
He is a radical on that side ,imagine Sachin retiring before we reached our #1 ranking don't think we would had reached,Sachin had good away tours till 2010 and this guy wanted himto retire in 2007,cant imagine winning VB series as well.

Agreed, he was very much wrong there as Sachin was just 33-34 then. But Misbah is officially 42 now, no point in extending his career.
 
Chappell is spot on. There are no fairy tale endings in sport (Steve Waugh quote)...except in the sub-continent where players are allowed to choose the timing of their departure. Australians are much harsher about this -- from the time of sacking of Bill Lawry onwards they have no hesitation in axing time expired players. "Seniors" are just like everyone else -- perform or get dropped.

I'm a huge Misbah fan, we owe him an immeasurable debt of gratitude but he should have gone after Melbourne.
 
Chappell is spot on. There are no fairy tale endings in sport (Steve Waugh quote)...except in the sub-continent where players are allowed to choose the timing of their departure. Australians are much harsher about this -- from the time of sacking of Bill Lawry onwards they have no hesitation in axing time expired players. "Seniors" are just like everyone else -- perform or get dropped.

I'm a huge Misbah fan, we owe him an immeasurable debt of gratitude but he should have gone after Melbourne.

We definitely let Ponting and Clarke hang around a bit too long to the teams detriment.
 
Honest comments from chappie but stuff like that dosn't happen in Pakistan. We don't just throw away our captain like that unless he has some beef with the managment
 
Chappell is spot on. There are no fairy tale endings in sport (Steve Waugh quote)...except in the sub-continent where players are allowed to choose the timing of their departure. Australians are much harsher about this -- from the time of sacking of Bill Lawry onwards they have no hesitation in axing time expired players. "Seniors" are just like everyone else -- perform or get dropped.

I'm a huge Misbah fan, we owe him an immeasurable debt of gratitude but he should have gone after Melbourne.

Michael Clarke had a fairytale ending, was injured and past his prime yet still got to captain Australia and win the world cup in his homecountry.
 
Unfortunately Chapelli doesn't understand the subcontinent seniority culture.

Good.

Because Chappell is right, and the Asian seniority culture explains why the countries are poor and backward and their cricket teams always lose when they venture out of Asia.
 
Michael Clarke had a fairytale ending, was injured and past his prime yet still got to captain Australia and win the world cup in his homecountry.

He ended his career after a test beating against England in the Ashes -- the ultimate loss for an Australian captain
 
Good.

Because Chappell is right, and the Asian seniority culture explains why the countries are poor and backward and their cricket teams always lose when they venture out of Asia.

You are speaking as if England wins big outside its home.Only South Africa has decent numbers outside their den offlate and over there players retire themselves.
 
You are speaking as if England wins big outside its home.Only South Africa has decent numbers outside their den offlate and over there players retire themselves.
England in the last six years have won away series in Australia, India, South Africa and the West Indies.

I will never, ever accept that people should be respected in life for their seniority. It's absurd.

But to respect seniors in sport! What a joke!

It's a recipe for being beaten by younger mediocrities.

As Pakistan is currently proving.
 
Butt out Chapelli, cricket is different in different countries and you dont get to tell others how to manage thier own business.
I always thought you were a Dinky Di Aussie.

I'm surprised that you are defending other cultures' right to choose mediocrity.

Ask Imran Khan. (The real one). He practically worships Ian Chappell.
 
[MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] eng lost last windies tour 1:0 and recent tour is drawn 1:1
 
[MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] eng lost last windies tour 1:0 and recent tour is drawn 1:1

Ha ha, serves me right!

I'll just have to cherish those away wins in Australia, India and South Africa instead.
 
Ha ha, serves me right!

I'll just have to cherish those away wins in Australia, India and South Africa instead.

India was the only.major victory and you cant hold that anymore as the touring cycle jus got finished, England winning in Aus or Sa is like Asian sides touring each other.

Agree in the seniority culture overall
 
fantastic stuff from Chappell. Loved every word of this interview.. He is absolutely spot on. Misbah is a stubborn and selfish player who should have announced his retirement if he had any dignity before the start of this test.
 
fantastic stuff from Chappell. Loved every word of this interview.. He is absolutely spot on. Misbah is a stubborn and selfish player who should have announced his retirement if he had any dignity before the start of this test.
Exactly.

Every word of that recording was spot on. The reason why people like Imran Khan have listened to Ian Chappell for the last 40 years is because his analysis is brave but accurate and he says what other people are too polite to say.

And Misbah knows it. His body language since Christchurch has been as horrible as his captaincy.
 
It is up to the PCB, the PCB wanted him to stay on and he has. Pakistan have historically not been very good at discarding seniors when the time is right.

You can make an argument either way. One could also say it would be a mistake having a captain deserting a Test tour mid-series and giving a young replacement a baptism of fire, and these same pundits would've branded him a coward.
 
Pakistan is the only country where players play into their real age of 40's.

Is it because of the money and financial security that they are all so desperate to hang on till they are pushed over the edge?
 
Exactly.

Every word of that recording was spot on. The reason why people like Imran Khan have listened to Ian Chappell for the last 40 years is because his analysis is brave but accurate and he says what other people are too polite to say.

And Misbah knows it. His body language since Christchurch has been as horrible as his captaincy.

I don't think it's about the age. Misbah travelled 6 years ago to Australia as well and had similar results as a batsman. he is just trying to avoid the backlash after such horrible results and plus his horrible batting and the way his captaincy is being exposed. I doubt Misbah had any plans to retire like people are saying he wanted to. If he really did then he would have announced his retirement before this game. Misbah just like YK is eyeing on the series against WI where they will get flat pitches ordinary bowlers and pretty ordinary batsmen to captain against and may be looking at easy wins and then we have some easy series at home.

This is why I feel Chappell's comments looks so great. How can you allow such players to carry on who fail on such important tours? The next few series we have are for trying youngsters not allowing them to increase their averages and feats. I would despise every moment of Pak playing next teams with these two featuring in our team. There is always limits of torture a fan can go through.
 
India was the only.major victory and you cant hold that anymore as the touring cycle jus got finished, England winning in Aus or Sa is like Asian sides touring each other.

Agree in the seniority culture overall

Highly dubious.

English and Australian climates are extremely different
 
It is up to the PCB, the PCB wanted him to stay on and he has. Pakistan have historically not been very good at discarding seniors when the time is right.

You can make an argument either way. One could also say it would be a mistake having a captain deserting a Test tour mid-series and giving a young replacement a baptism of fire, and these same pundits would've branded him a coward.

oh really? Then please select poor Shahid afridi. and I'm really feeling sorry for him to resign from T20I captaincy when people like Misbah despite horrible results and average performances are allowed to decide their own future. Why poor Hafeez was forced to resign after his team failed in the world cup? Similarly why Afridi? It's about becoming man enough and taking your responsibility. Who would care if Misbah and YK go to WI and Bangladesh and score 6 centuries on trott when they have failed to average more than single digit on these very important tours. Teams lose but their vital players ,players with experienced perform. Look India failed but players like Sachin,Dravid,Kohli make sure they prove that they really beong in the world class category by scoring runs and not average in single digiti and have audacity to still play for the country because you are experienced.
 
oh really? Then please select poor Shahid afridi. and I'm really feeling sorry for him to resign from T20I captaincy when people like Misbah despite horrible results and average performances are allowed to decide their own future. Why poor Hafeez was forced to resign after his team failed in the world cup? Similarly why Afridi? It's about becoming man enough and taking your responsibility. Who would care if Misbah and YK go to WI and Bangladesh and score 6 centuries on trott when they have failed to average more than single digit on these very important tours. Teams lose but their vital players ,players with experienced perform. Look India failed but players like Sachin,Dravid,Kohli make sure they prove that they really beong in the world class category by scoring runs and not average in single digiti and have audacity to still play for the country because you are experienced.

I don't understand the double standards on here.

When Graeme Swann made his decision to retire midway through the 13/14 Ashes when it was clear his performances were suffering, his elbow injury was causing problems and felt he was a liability on the team - people here still to this day brand him a coward and quitter.

Yet if Misbah, a captain no less, retired mid-series after feeling he was a liability it'd would've been an act of selflessness ?

Captains have additional responsibility to stick it out with their players not leave the moment the going gets tough. His successor, likely to be Azhar or Sarfraz, would be on a hiding to nothing.

Its better to give Azhar or Sarfraz the West Indies tour as their first assignment as captain, which is relatively easier and let them select their own squad than give them a baptism of fire at the SCG vs a rampant Australia in a dead rubber.
 
100% correct

this business with Misbah (and Younis) of letting them leave what they want is total rubbish

Misbah is clearly not good enough to be in the National team so he shouldn't be there

No job in the WORLD pays for past performances, Pakistan Cricket shouldn't either
 
One dead rubber means nothing. The world didn't end because Misbah played at Sydney. Let the man retire in peace.
 
Agreed. I just hope he actually retires, and doesn't linger on.

I don't think he will retire after this match.

If he doesn't, then PCB should force him behind closed doors. Just like they forced him to retire from T20s in 2012.

Sacking him before the Sydney Test would have been an extremely disrespectful move, and I'm glad that sense prevailed.
 
Highly dubious.

English and Australian climates are extremely different

Might be, but it's still far more closer when compared to Asian conditions. Your pacers are still going to be your strike bowlers regardless of whether you tour England, South Africa or Australia unlike in Asia where you need your spinners to step up.
 
Might be, but it's still far more closer when compared to Asian conditions. Your pacers are still going to be your strike bowlers regardless of whether you tour England, South Africa or Australia unlike in Asia where you need your spinners to step up.

The point is that while they're not Asian conditions, Australia isn't particularly easy for English players to adapt to and vice versa.

As simple geography shows, you can't lump England and Australia together the same way you can say India and Pakistan have a similar climate and conditions
 
I don't understand the double standards on here.

When Graeme Swann made his decision to retire midway through the 13/14 Ashes when it was clear his performances were suffering, his elbow injury was causing problems and felt he was a liability on the team - people here still to this day brand him a coward and quitter.

Yet if Misbah, a captain no less, retired mid-series after feeling he was a liability it'd would've been an act of selflessness ?

Captains have additional responsibility to stick it out with their players not leave the moment the going gets tough. His successor, likely to be Azhar or Sarfraz, would be on a hiding to nothing.

Its better to give Azhar or Sarfraz the West Indies tour as their first assignment as captain, which is relatively easier and let them select their own squad than give them a baptism of fire at the SCG vs a rampant Australia in a dead rubber.

There are two schools of thought here. One group considers Sawnn made the right decision and expected Misbah to follow the same because there was no point of him playing. The other thinks Swann was coward and Misbah is doing the right thing.

but just look at the likes of Rizwan benched carrying drinks for last year or so who has not got opportunity to represent for Pakistan, what will be going through his mind?How much respect he will have for Misbah?
What about Azhar Ali the next captain? I'm sure he would have love to take the responsibilities and take control of proceedings, how much is he going to enjoy Misbah's decision?
What about Misbah motivating players to perform? How will players be motivated by a captain whose own performance has been a joke and who is only continuing his career because he is a senior?How much motivation youngsters will inspire from Misbah when they read headlines featuring Chappell's such comments?

This is why I feel Swann did the right decisions and so did Afridi. I do not care if it's cowardice or bravery but the fact is if you are not good enough anymore then you should leave,be it in the middle of the match for all I care...
 
Misbah deserves an honorable exit, not a humiliating one.

But by hanging on until an absurd age he has made that impossible.

People tend to forget how last year went. Even in England, he made a century in the first innings of the First Test - while Anderson and Stokes were absent - but then averaged 28.00 for the rest of the series.

Time waits for no batsman. Misbah was never going to survive in Australia.

And the insane decision to pick both Younis and Misbah has just focussed attention on their selfishness in obstructing the development of younger players.

I love the idea that Misbah has somehow been a hostage, playing on against his will. Michael Vaughan nailed it in the UAE a year ago: he is a cricket tragic who can't even hold a conversation on other topics, and doesn't want to accept that doing what he loves is coming to an end.
 
The point is that while they're not Asian conditions, Australia isn't particularly easy for English players to adapt to and vice versa.

As simple geography shows, you can't lump England and Australia together the same way you can say India and Pakistan have a similar climate and conditions

Sure the conditions are quite different among the countries outside asia and everyone acknowledges it. I think [MENTION=137142]JaDed[/MENTION]'s original point was that while there is definitely diversity in the conditions between England, Australia and South Africa, you still can't equate it to a win in asia as the conditions in asia are far more difficult and wider to bridge than the conditions outside asia within different countries.

Otherwise you wouldn't see these teams winning in other nations outside asia as often as they do. South Africa having a winning record in England since their readmission, England probably have the same in South Africa. South Africa have won 3 series on the bounce now in Australia while still not managing to beat the same team even once at home since their readmission.
 
I dont think he deserves to be sacked in the middle of a tour .
I think he should have done a Dhoni though , but the problem with that is he would have been critirized for that too .Cant please everyone anyway , especially SC fans .
 
I dont think he deserves to be sacked in the middle of a tour .
I think he should have done a Dhoni though , but the problem with that is he would have been critirized for that too .Cant please everyone anyway , especially SC fans .

............but he could have said this is my last test...instead of saying the 3 days to think speech was "just heat of the moment" comments..and that it's 2017 now. that was 2016. This is a massive u-turn which indicates he plans to play further.
 
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............but he could have said this is my last test...instead of saying the 3 days to think speech was "just heat of the moment" comments..

I am not sure if you have ever lead any project or a department etc. You as an employee are not paid to run-off in the middle of your assignment. You dont abandon ship in the middle and walk off to please one or 2 fans.

He was appointed captain for the series and he will complete his assignment. if he said something in the heat of the moment, he has clarified it.

His team need a leader not someone who runs off in the middle. Misbah is very close with his team and he will see this through.
 
Nah deserves the same kind of treatment given to the likes of Saeed Ajmal, Junaid Khan and co. No emotions in Cricket

Saeed Ajmal if we will recall was banned from bowling and he is also not the captain of the team. JK is another bowler who will get his chance.
 
............but he could have said this is my last test...instead of saying the 3 days to think speech was "just heat of the moment" comments..and that it's 2017 now. that was 2016. This is a massive u-turn which indicates he plans to play further.

He said he will make a decision in 2-3 days and he has. Which part of that is hard to understand? Did he say he is going to retire?
 
Butt out Chapelli, cricket is different in different countries and you dont get to tell others how to manage thier own business.

This idea of expert not being able to discuss or voice their opinion on cricket whether it is related to their respective country or other countries is "rubbish".
 
He said he will make a decision in 2-3 days and he has. Which part of that is hard to understand? Did he say he is going to retire?

the sound of his emotional speech really meant he would be announcing retirement or at best play the Sydney test as his last but continuing to play after the Aus tour as well was not many expected. I think PCB should have a deal with Misbah,that they will pay him 10% more just for a year just for announcing his retirement after this game. he can keep continuing his pay checks while some deserving youngster take his place.
 
Misbah should have announced Sydney was his last. That was the right thing to do.

Sacking him would be rude when the board had asked him to carry on earlier.
 
Though misbah has said it is heat of the moment comment.
I'm very siure he will retire after the SCG. I hope he doesn't like embarrassment. His reflexes are very poor and down.
 
fantastic stuff from Chappell. Loved every word of this interview.. He is absolutely spot on. Misbah is a stubborn and selfish player who should have announced his retirement if he had any dignity before the start of this test.

The M should have been kicked out after the 2011 WC SF.
 
Though misbah has said it is heat of the moment comment.
I'm very siure he will retire after the SCG. I hope he doesn't like embarrassment. His reflexes are very poor and down.

You kidding me. He will milk it as much as possible embarrassment or no embarrassment.
 
If he doesn't, then PCB should force him behind closed doors. Just like they forced him to retire from T20s in 2012.

Sacking him before the Sydney Test would have been an extremely disrespectful move, and I'm glad that sense prevailed.

Nope, just like many other Pakistani players, the M is not some unique jazeera who deserves out of the world respect.
 
More than his batting, his atrocious captaincy has been hurting the team. Clueless outside of UAE.
 
We definitely let Ponting and Clarke hang around a bit too long to the teams detriment.

You should thank India for both of those. Ponting scored a double against us with one eye (couldn't see the ball vs SA) and Clarke scored a mammoth 100 with one leg.

I am pretty sure we are going to get Hashim amla, into form by gifting a couple of hundreds (thus prolonging his international career) when we go there next.
 
Misbah should have announced Sydney was his last. That was the right thing to do.

Sacking him would be rude when the board had asked him to carry on earlier.

Are you serious? Rude? Is this a tea party? People expected Misbah to carry on from where he left off in England. Sadly, his form has deteriorated so badly and so has his captaincy. Agreed, a captain is as good as his team, but MCG test should have been his last IMO. Selectors should have been bold to take that call.
 
Are you serious? Rude? Is this a tea party? People expected Misbah to carry on from where he left off in England. Sadly, his form has deteriorated so badly and so has his captaincy. Agreed, a captain is as good as his team, but MCG test should have been his last IMO. Selectors should have been bold to take that call.

I meant sacking him for Sydney.

You can't ask someone to lead a side for tough overseas tours and then sack them midway.
 
More than his batting, his atrocious captaincy has been hurting the team. Clueless outside of UAE.

Well his successor will be the same as he is trained to be misbah version 2. Pak once got a decent to good test captain in salman butt but he screwed it himself.
 
You kidding me. He will milk it as much as possible embarrassment or no embarrassment.

With Arthur, Rixon in place it is tough for Misbah to carry on. This SCG test will be his 6th straight loss unless they salvage a draw, after climbing to no.1
 
I meant sacking him for Sydney.

You can't ask someone to lead a side for tough overseas tours and then sack them midway.

I agree, sacking a captain mid tour is not on, but I think Misbah should have sat down. The captaincy is conditional. You cannot just sit with zero contribution. Someone has to pull the trigger. I think in this case Misbah was hoping selectors would pull the trigger and management was hoping Misbah would sit down.

On a similar note, I remember Azhar having a disastrous tour in 91-92 and he just blazed out of it with a super quick 100 in Adelaide and redeemed himself. Australia is a hard place to tour, espcially if you do not have bowlers. It was only because of Srini mama and Dhoni's 'I don't care what you think' attitude that he never felt the pinch I suppose.

I was seriously hoping this would be another case of a Captain retiring mid tour (like Dhoni did in 2014).
 
Yeah, which is even more worrying.

I hope Younus makes another 200 to save or win this test just like the 4th test in England. PCB should give him the captaincy until he retire. From which Azhar can learn a lot. Younus is a much better captain who should have been persisted with but that time we had the great mr. Ijaz butt the cobbler who destroyed a decade long cricket for Pakistan and it keeps going
 
Misbah should retire after this series. He has been shocking after 1st test at Lords.

He should take his buddy Younis Khan with him.

Time to groom youngsters. I have had it with these late 30s mental midgets who disintegrate every time they go down under.
 
I hope Younus makes another 200 to save or win this test just like the 4th test in England. PCB should give him the captaincy until he retire. From which Azhar can learn a lot. Younus is a much better captain who should have been persisted with but that time we had the great mr. Ijaz butt the cobbler who destroyed a decade long cricket for Pakistan and it keeps going

I'd much rather that Younis somehow miraculously makes those 221 runs soon and then retires along with Misbah. Their time is up.
 
I'd much rather that Younis somehow miraculously makes those 221 runs soon and then retires along with Misbah. Their time is up.

Unlike misbah. Younus will retire only on his own. If you kick him out he make his way back in. It is better to honour him giving the captaincy and then ask him to leave after a year or 2. Younus has more experince than Misbah to survive on tough tours technique wise.

I remember during Younus captaincy he had imran nazir and kamran as openers in LOIs. An attacking opening pair which we never saw with misbah.
 
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