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Ian Chappell says Pakistan should have sacked captain Misbah-ul-Haq before Sydney Test

Misbah deserves an honorable exit, not a humiliating one.

Misbah has Captain only 10 test out of 50 outside Asia, what was his record their?? 2-8, only silver lining for Misbah is draw series in England, which happens on warmer than usual summer, otherwise things could be worse for him... He could never match the level of Imran, who was way more aggressive and understand fast bowling.

Misbah is very poor Captain of Fast bowlers all those 6 years, he does not know how to attack batsmen. Bowlers are not that great but that's half the story. He was taking out slip after first over, really?? - You are not going to get Warner out by spreading the field, you have to get him out, that's the only plan, their is no plan B. He did not get that after MCG... This is not all of Warner we will see, in ODI, the only plan has to be to get him out, you cannot control run rate anyway in AUS, go for wickets or get the epic Phanti

Misbah and YK both are weakest link in batting ATM, we all knew this two years ago, Pakistan gets these tour to ENG,NZ,AUS all in one Calendar year, you have to prepare for then two years in advance. We are debuting openers and one down during that year, what that tells you?? - Fast bowlers were not ready for these tour, And so was Captain Misbah, for him these are some Alien species which he has seen this year for the first time :facepalm:
 
Nah deserves the same kind of treatment given to the likes of Saeed Ajmal, Junaid Khan and co. No emotions in Cricket

Ajmal - the chucker who cheated his way to the top.

Junaid - lost form, got injured, got another chance, wasn't good enough. He threatened to quit Pakistan and play for England, but quickly back-tracked.

Misbah - the man who restored dignity to Pakistan cricket and took them to the number ranking in Tests.

I don't see any similarities between the three.
 
But by hanging on until an absurd age he has made that impossible.

People tend to forget how last year went. Even in England, he made a century in the first innings of the First Test - while Anderson and Stokes were absent - but then averaged 28.00 for the rest of the series.

Time waits for no batsman. Misbah was never going to survive in Australia.

And the insane decision to pick both Younis and Misbah has just focussed attention on their selfishness in obstructing the development of younger players.

I love the idea that Misbah has somehow been a hostage, playing on against his will. Michael Vaughan nailed it in the UAE a year ago: he is a cricket tragic who can't even hold a conversation on other topics, and doesn't want to accept that doing what he loves is coming to an end.

Nope, just like many other Pakistani players, the M is not some unique jazeera who deserves out of the world respect.

Misbah has Captain only 10 test out of 50 outside Asia, what was his record their?? 2-8, only silver lining for Misbah is draw series in England, which happens on warmer than usual summer, otherwise things could be worse for him... He could never match the level of Imran, who was way more aggressive and understand fast bowling.

Misbah is very poor Captain of Fast bowlers all those 6 years, he does not know how to attack batsmen. Bowlers are not that great but that's half the story. He was taking out slip after first over, really?? - You are not going to get Warner out by spreading the field, you have to get him out, that's the only plan, their is no plan B. He did not get that after MCG... This is not all of Warner we will see, in ODI, the only plan has to be to get him out, you cannot control run rate anyway in AUS, go for wickets or get the epic Phanti

Misbah and YK both are weakest link in batting ATM, we all knew this two years ago, Pakistan gets these tour to ENG,NZ,AUS all in one Calendar year, you have to prepare for then two years in advance. We are debuting openers and one down during that year, what that tells you?? - Fast bowlers were not ready for these tour, And so was Captain Misbah, for him these are some Alien species which he has seen this year for the first time :facepalm:

I repeat - one match is not the end of the world. Whether Misbah should have retired earlier doesn't matter anymore. That's irrelevant. However sacking him before the Sydney Test would have been pointless humiliation and it would not have achieved anything.

Now if he insists on continuing after this tour, then PCB will be justified in forcing him out, but I don't think Misbah will get to that stage. He will quit before the Caribbean tour.
 
I repeat - one match is not the end of the world. Whether Misbah should have retired earlier doesn't matter anymore. That's irrelevant. However sacking him before the Sydney Test would have been pointless humiliation and it would not have achieved anything.

Now if he insists on continuing after this tour, then PCB will be justified in forcing him out, but I don't think Misbah will get to that stage. He will quit before the Caribbean tour.

I don't blame Misbah a whole lot for this situation, PCB is at bigger fault, they were begging him to stick around... Now a ****(aka Chapell) is spelling it out for them(What's wrong with keeping M&Y), they will listen and do what should have been done a long time ago... PCB was planning to keep him for 2 more years, they should have get rid of M&Y 2 years ago...

My point was that Misbah should have retired himself rather than waiting for being sacked or shamed by press or fans, there was no need for him to play dead rubber, let Sarfraz show his Captaincy skills, what worse could have happened, we would have lost another innings defeat, looks like that is going to happen anyway...

If Misbah continued after this series, loosing 6 tests in a row, he will be ruining his stature and will gain nothing
 
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Great comments made by Ian.

If he wanted to play this Test, then at least announce you are going to retire after this Test match, but he hasn't and that is where the problem is.

I'm guessing, he is going to stick around if he manages to score 40+ and delay his retirement.
 
I repeat - one match is not the end of the world. Whether Misbah should have retired earlier doesn't matter anymore. That's irrelevant. However sacking him before the Sydney Test would have been pointless humiliation and it would not have achieved anything.

Now if he insists on continuing after this tour, then PCB will be justified in forcing him out, but I don't think Misbah will get to that stage. He will quit before the Caribbean tour.

Misbah is a terrible captain. The only thing he has going for him is that he is calm and has the respect of most of his team mates, which is a big deal in Pakistan. However tactically he is probably the worst captain of all major test playing nations. Utterly defensive, lacking any imagination and charisma. It is not just one test, he has been like this throughout, even in the UAE where pitches really benefited Pakistan. His use of Yasir especially was some of the worst captaincy I have ever seen in international test cricket.
 
I am not sure if you have ever lead any project or a department etc. You as an employee are not paid to run-off in the middle of your assignment. You dont abandon ship in the middle and walk off to please one or 2 fans.

He was appointed captain for the series and he will complete his assignment. if he said something in the heat of the moment, he has clarified it.

His team need a leader not someone who runs off in the middle. Misbah is very close with his team and he will see this through.
I refer you to the case of Mike Denness.

If during the tour it becomes apparent that you are no longer good enough to play, you have a responsibility as captain to drop yourself, especially if the other selectors are too deferential to do so.

That does not mean running away like Shahid Afridi or even Graeme Swann. It means saying "as captain I have had to drop myself, but I'm still here, not shirking my responsibilities."
 
I hope Younus makes another 200 to save or win this test just like the 4th test in England. PCB should give him the captaincy until he retire. From which Azhar can learn a lot. Younus is a much better captain who should have been persisted with but that time we had the great mr. Ijaz butt the cobbler who destroyed a decade long cricket for Pakistan and it keeps going
Mmm.

So there is no lesson to learn here about having blokes in their forties - 40's ! - as skipper?

And Younis Khan since 2012 has played 21 Test innings outside Asia, and failed in 18 of them.
 
Poor comments.

Can you explain?

This is top international sports, it's not a testimonial series. Misbah clearly isn't up to it as a batsman or as a skipper. I know he looks cool and calm and everyone loves him for the press-up thing in England last year, but his tactics are abysmal and he's just a liability.

Professional sport is competitive and sometimes you have to make tough decision. Chappell is 100% correct is his comments.
 
Misbah, Afridi, Younis, Hafeez, we have long list of has beens who refuse to retire gracefully.
 
Can you explain?

This is top international sports, it's not a testimonial series. Misbah clearly isn't up to it as a batsman or as a skipper. I know he looks cool and calm and everyone loves him for the press-up thing in England last year, but his tactics are abysmal and he's just a liability.

Professional sport is competitive and sometimes you have to make tough decision. Chappell is 100% correct is his comments.

Not just that, but Pakistan will never return to the heights of the Imran era until this ridiculous deference to age and seniority is not just discarded but also mocked, belittled and humiliated to ensure that the sporting poison of gerontocracy never returns.
 
Zaheer Abbas is a perfect example of a Pakistani who got the captaincy ten years too late when he was no longer good enough to be selected.

And now Misbah has followed suit.
 
Zaheer Abbas is a perfect example of a Pakistani who got the captaincy ten years too late when he was no longer good enough to be selected.

And now Misbah has followed suit.

Misbah wasn't good enough earlier on to receive the Test captaincy, just because he has had a miserable couple of months to end his tenure doesn't mean his captaincy will be hailed in a negative light. For many, he is only second to Imran and I agree with that.
 
I refer you to the case of Mike Denness.

If during the tour it becomes apparent that you are no longer good enough to play, you have a responsibility as captain to drop yourself, especially if the other selectors are too deferential to do so.

That does not mean running away like Shahid Afridi or even Graeme Swann. It means saying "as captain I have had to drop myself, but I'm still here, not shirking my responsibilities."

His performance has been poor but not so bad to be fired at this stage. Pakistan nearly won the Brisbane test with a great fightback, lost the second test in the last two sessions. Pakistan threw it away in both tests, should have been 1-0 up going into the final test. If Australia had dominated Pakistan every session Misbah could be sacked but this didn't happen.
 
His performance has been poor but not so bad to be fired at this stage. Pakistan nearly won the Brisbane test with a great fightback, lost the second test in the last two sessions. Pakistan threw it away in both tests, should have been 1-0 up going into the final test. If Australia had dominated Pakistan every session Misbah could be sacked but this didn't happen.
Again, you have responded to the wrong question.

The question now at this point should not be "should he be sacked as captain?"

The question for me is "is his batting so poor currently that HE should drop himself from the starting eleven?"

And the answer is clearly "Yes".

And that is the risk you take when you select a very very old batsman to skipper a tour of Australia.
 
Again, you have responded to the wrong question.

The question now at this point should not be "should he be sacked as captain?"

The question for me is "is his batting so poor currently that HE should drop himself from the starting eleven?"

And the answer is clearly "Yes".

And that is the risk you take when you select a very very old batsman to skipper a tour of Australia.

This is the whole point of the topic, it's the selectors who should decide
 
His performance has been poor but not so bad to be fired at this stage. Pakistan nearly won the Brisbane test with a great fightback, lost the second test in the last two sessions. Pakistan threw it away in both tests, should have been 1-0 up going into the final test. If Australia had dominated Pakistan every session Misbah could be sacked but this didn't happen.

Thanks for that, I needed a good laugh.
 
This match is feeling like junior club cricketers vs seniors.

Every ball by Pakistan is going through the motions.
 
His performance has been poor but not so bad to be fired at this stage. Pakistan nearly won the Brisbane test with a great fightback, lost the second test in the last two sessions. Pakistan threw it away in both tests, should have been 1-0 up going into the final test. If Australia had dominated Pakistan every session Misbah could be sacked but this didn't happen.

This is the whole point of the topic, it's the selectors who should decide
On tour the selectors are not part of the process. They have picked the squad, then Mickey and Misbah choose the starting eleven.

And there is a long history of underperforming skippers not quitting, but dropping themselves.

And I consider that after the MCG Test, Misbah had a responsibility to omit himself from the starting eleven.

Mickey could not do it, and anyway I think Mickey wanted to keep Azhar away from the job - Shaharyar Khan has already leaked to us all that Mickey doesn't want Azhar as skipper.

Mickey always knew that he'd have to bide his time and let Misbah do it his way until he exited.

And Mickey is probably happy to inherit a core of Azhar, Sami, Shafiq, Babar, Sarfraz, Yasir, Wahab and Amir, with Hafeez, Younis, Misbah, Zulfiqar, Sohail and Imran having removed themselves permanently from the selection equation.

Getting rid of six has-beens is a great start for Mickey before he even takes over the reins. And the last thing he needs is to be lumbered with Azhar as a skipper with the leadership qualities of a paper bag.
 
Thanks Mr. Chappell for speaking up for Pakistan cricket.

Its pity people in Pakistan put personalities before the country, whether is politics or spots.

And only in Pakistan a 42 year player who is failing again and again as captain and as batsman, is left to decide whether he himself wants to continue and bring more humiliation to country or will he stop , no one knows what is the the selector's job.

Only in Pakistan dropping a player for his age and lack of performance at 42 is consider a humiliation, in other countries they call it dropping from the tam

Only in Pakistan some people are more concerned about "humiliation" of an aged player but have no consideration for the humiliation of the country with repeated defeats due to his captaincy and batting.

Only in Pakistan people take the defeat in a test match so casually that they are willing to keep Misbah for one more test by saying, " so what, its just one test, sky will not fall if we lost".

For me its always country first, no one is bigger than the game or the country, and Misbah is no exception.
 
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Thanks Mr. Chappell for speaking up for Pakistan cricket.

Its pity people in Pakistan put personalities before the country, whether is politics or spots.

And only in Pakistan a 42 year player who is failing again and again as captain and as batsman, is left to decide whether he himself wants to continue and bring more humiliation to country or will he stop , no one knows what is the the selector's job.

Only in Pakistan dropping a player for his age and lack of performance at 42 is consider a humiliation, in other countries they call it dropping from the tam

Only in Pakistan some people are more concerned about "humiliation" of an aged player but have no consideration for the humiliation of the country with repeated defeats due to his captaincy and batting.

Only in Pakistan people take the defeat in a test match so casually that they are willing to keep Misbah for one more test by saying, " so what, its just one test, sky will not fall if we lost".

For me its always country first, no one is bigger than the game or the country, and Misbah is no exception.

More to the point, Pakistan took the first two Tests Down to the wire, in spite of having elderly passengers at Numbers 4 and 5 in the batting order.

Younis, Misbah and Inzamam made these defeats happen by their absurd delusion that 40+ batsmen can cope in Australia.
 
On tour the selectors are not part of the process. They have picked the squad, then Mickey and Misbah choose the starting eleven.

And there is a long history of underperforming skippers not quitting, but dropping themselves.

And I consider that after the MCG Test, Misbah had a responsibility to omit himself from the starting eleven.

Mickey could not do it, and anyway I think Mickey wanted to keep Azhar away from the job - Shaharyar Khan has already leaked to us all that Mickey doesn't want Azhar as skipper.

Mickey always knew that he'd have to bide his time and let Misbah do it his way until he exited.

And Mickey is probably happy to inherit a core of Azhar, Sami, Shafiq, Babar, Sarfraz, Yasir, Wahab and Amir, with Hafeez, Younis, Misbah, Zulfiqar, Sohail and Imran having removed themselves permanently from the selection equation.

Getting rid of six has-beens is a great start for Mickey before he even takes over the reins. And the last thing he needs is to be lumbered with Azhar as a skipper with the leadership qualities of a paper bag.

The selectors , cricket board anyone in charge of the captain can sack him at any stage.

After England Misbah was always going to get the gig, the rebuilding can start after this series.
 
I'm just repaying the favour for Steve Smith allowing Pakisan to score more than 450 in the 4th innings.

Three day matches reduce the gate revenues, Smith had to do something to provide the spectators with something to watch.
 
The selectors , cricket board anyone in charge of the captain can sack him at any stage.

After England Misbah was always going to get the gig, the rebuilding can start after this series.
Well done.

Three winnable series outside Asia this year against teams on horror runs of defeats. And you haven't won any of them.

Won 2 Drawn 0 Lost 7
 
More to the point, Pakistan took the first two Tests Down to the wire, in spite of having elderly passengers at Numbers 4 and 5 in the batting order.

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You do know Pakistan only took 6 wickets in the second test and were beaten by an innings even with a full day lost to rain.
 
You do know Pakistan only took 6 wickets in the second test and were beaten by an innings even with a full day lost to rain.
I sure do.

I know that their batsmen lost in two sessions a match in which 14 wickets had fallen to the bowlers in the first four days, in 300 overs.

A match in which Mohammad Amir, Sohail Khan and Mitchell Starc coped better with the bat than Misbah or Younis.
 
Well done.

Three winnable series outside Asia this year against teams on horror runs of defeats. And you haven't won any of them.

Won 2 Drawn 0 Lost 7

All three teams had their ideal home conditions . Drawing in England was a very good result, NZ were always going to be too good for Pakistani batsmen in those conditions, Australia are a rejuvinated team after making changes and beating SA in the final test.

Pakistan has been more competitive in Australia compared to how Australia did in the UAE. Everyone is a lion in their den.
 
I totally agree with Chappel.
The whole team is suffering beause of selfish captain who rather than deservingly stepping down hurt the team by
1. poor selection (should have Asghar in place of Misbah)
2. Started with a mediocre fielding by himself that put the alreay low in confidence team further down.
3. I dont think players have any confidence in Misbah which is showing in their fielding. I think they have given up even before the game and esp after lunch on day 1).
4. Misbah seem to be destroying Yasir by having him bowl so long esp with hamstring. Turning an attacking bowler into a defensive one.

Just assess how many permanent quality player has Misbah given us in his career as a captain. Seems like his personal performance is his only priority.

It would have been much better with more fight with Sarfaraz being the captain.
 
I totally agree with Chappel.
The whole team is suffering beause of selfish captain who rather than deservingly stepping down hurt the team by
1. poor selection (should have Asghar in place of Misbah)
2. Started with a mediocre fielding by himself that put the alreay low in confidence team further down.
3. I dont think players have any confidence in Misbah which is showing in their fielding. I think they have given up even before the game and esp after lunch on day 1).
4. Misbah seem to be destroying Yasir by having him bowl so long esp with hamstring. Turning an attacking bowler into a defensive one.

Just assess how many permanent quality player has Misbah given us in his career as a captain. Seems like his personal performance is his only priority.

It would have been much better with more fight with Sarfaraz being the captain.

Well said. The result would have been totally opposite if Sarfraz were the captain. It's obvious players are not happy playing under a defensive and mediocre captain like Misbah. His poor field setting starting from 7th over onwards helped Australia in scoring fast. Misbah should have been dropped for good after his poor performance in 2011 WC semi final. PCB persisted with him despite his role in our defeat. Poor accountability has resulted in akmals, misbahs, and younis khans to have a free ride in the team leading our ranking to the lowest.
 
Misbah deserves an honorable exit, not a humiliating one.

Misbah had a chance then he became greedy. Dropping non-deserving player is no humiliation but becoming laughing stock of the world cricket is true humiliation.
 
Brilliant comments from the maestro, can't get more candid and explicit than this. He is one guy i would treat everything he says a gospel truth.
 
Mmm.

So there is no lesson to learn here about having blokes in their forties - 40's ! - as skipper?

And Younis Khan since 2012 has played 21 Test innings outside Asia, and failed in 18 of them.

Yes he failed in 18 inns ... same can be said about warner scoring 14 out of 18 centuries in AUS, but the world say he is one of the best test openers like sehwag, dilshan etc....I have seen ur comments on butt return, may be u r of the opinion on butt to comeback as captain, may be 1 in 1000 will give agree to that... At the moment to eradicate the defensive culture and misbahi mindset u need a captain who has an attacking mindset and the future captains to learn from him...Younis is the right person...

Right now MISBAHI mode of captaincy and style of play has left a large impact than what was expected...
 
Yes he failed in 18 inns ... same can be said about warner scoring 14 out of 18 centuries in AUS, but the world say he is one of the best test openers like sehwag, dilshan etc....I have seen ur comments on butt return, may be u r of the opinion on butt to comeback as captain, may be 1 in 1000 will give agree to that... At the moment to eradicate the defensive culture and misbahi mindset u need a captain who has an attacking mindset and the future captains to learn from him...Younis is the right person...

Right now MISBAHI mode of captaincy and style of play has left a large impact than what was expected...

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I have repeatedly said that I only wanted Salman Butt as a stopgap until the end of this Test. And not beyond.

Going forward I am clear that the captain should be appointed at roughly age 24-30 and that no player should be more than 35 years old and that no more than 2 should be 32 or older.
 
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I have repeatedly said that I only wanted Salman Butt as a stopgap until the end of this Test. And not beyond.

Going forward I am clear that the captain should be appointed at roughly age 24-30 and that no player should be more than 35 years old and that no more than 2 should be 32 or older.

this works for AUS, SA, ENG, NZL and even for india now... not for Pak... very tough....
 
Ajmal - the chucker who cheated his way to the top.

Junaid - lost form, got injured, got another chance, wasn't good enough. He threatened to quit Pakistan and play for England, but quickly back-tracked.

Misbah - the man who restored dignity to Pakistan cricket and took them to the number ranking in Tests.

I don't see any similarities between the three.

it's funny that if it wasn't for this chucker Misbah would have struggled to restore lost dignity because his batting we saw how many times made us lose single handedly with his limited or should I say selfish batting. It is a well established fact that if Misbah wasn't an ODI captain he would have struggled to make his place with the 60 strike rate batting coming at 5 iin any team.

There is no hidden secret that Misbah's test success as captain is largely to thanks to Ajmal,Yasir and Younis Khan. I have seen him choking even against Zimbabwe when we needed him to stay on the wicket.

His batting, we all know which conditions his 80% of runs and 90% 100s have been scored. We all know his test averages in England,NZ,Aus,SL,SA the aveaging in the 20s. We also know his struggles against Zim in Zim. We all saw his limitations as a batsman in ODIs.

You give captaincy to Azhar after Salman Butt scandal and we would have still achieved similar if not better results. The whitewashing English and Aus team on turning tracks is no difficult these days. We all saw how mediocre captain like Mathews with his rookie team white washed this same Aussie team. All you need is a good spinner and a few good ftbs.

A captain is also known by what kind of team he leaves after spending so much time leading the team. Misbah has always used players for short term success especially bowlers. Irfan,Gul,Zulifqar,Sohail,Imran Khan..the list goes on. Amir was selected straight away the moment his ban ended because we have had failed to produce better bowlers and instead were too happy playing the likes of Imran Khan,Gul,Irfan because they provided one wickets break throughs.

only in Pakistan a man can lead this team for such a long time despite his batting being mediocre outside flat roads of UAE and his captaincy looking all over the place the moment the only match winning bowler doesn't perform.
 
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I totally agree with Chappel.
The whole team is suffering beause of selfish captain who rather than deservingly stepping down hurt the team by
1. poor selection (should have Asghar in place of Misbah)
2. Started with a mediocre fielding by himself that put the alreay low in confidence team further down.
3. I dont think players have any confidence in Misbah which is showing in their fielding. I think they have given up even before the game and esp after lunch on day 1).
4. Misbah seem to be destroying Yasir by having him bowl so long esp with hamstring. Turning an attacking bowler into a defensive one.

Just assess how many permanent quality player has Misbah given us in his career as a captain. Seems like his personal performance is his only priority.

It would have been much better with more fight with Sarfaraz being the captain.

exactly. What confidence youngsters will inspire when they read such headlines in the newspapers and see their beloved captains motivating them with average in single digits on NZ and Aus tours.
 
All three teams had their ideal home conditions . Drawing in England was a very good result, NZ were always going to be too good for Pakistani batsmen in those conditions, Australia are a rejuvinated team after making changes and beating SA in the final test.

Pakistan has been more competitive in Australia compared to how Australia did in the UAE. Everyone is a lion in their den.

This English batting has to be terrible to be getting out to Yasir Shah's non turning flat deliveries at their home.
 
Whereas i do feel its time for a change of captaincy but then who would take over though? its very well saying that he should be replaced, by who? Azhar ali who will be similar in style to misbah? I think someone like Srfraz should be given a chance as I was impressed with him during the PSL tourney but I feel that too many people in the team will be against that.
 
Chappell calls a spade a spade, he doesn't mince words, speaks like a true whole hearted Aussie
 
Sacking him would have been embarrassing, our record is poor in Australia so we shouldn't have expected a miracle from Misbah to lead us to victory. I think he didn't announce his retirement yet because he wants the focus to be on the game and not the fact it's his last game.

I think he'll announce his retirement shortly after the conclusion of the game.
 
Chappelli needs to go back to writing clickbait articles about why kohli is a better captain/batsman/humanitarian than smith/dhoni
 
Chappel is harsh but not really wrong.

In any case, Misbah should call it a day after this test, and if he scores a century, then all the more reason to. He's not helping anyone by sticking around.
 
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