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ICC CT 2017 : Group A - New Zealand [291] vs Australia [53/3] - No result

Should be a high scoring, close match.

Hope Santner picks up a few wickets and Kiwis win it at the end!
 
Damn, that's the shot of the day.

Up and over against Cummins :))
 
Kiwis have gone back to Baz philosophy, just hit it as hard as you can. I am loving it, Hobbits for once are playing on par with big brothers.
 
Williamson needs to stand up in this tournament. Kohli and Smith have clutch knocks in icc tournaments. Time for Williamson to produce a big knock.
 
Williamson needs to stand up in this tournament. Kohli and Smith have clutch knocks in icc tournaments. Time for Williamson to produce a big knock.
Kane already has a clutch innings.... Eden Park 2015, he guided the side home against Australia.
 
I'm all for calling a hack a hack, Guptill is no hack in LOI's. He was our best player along with McCullum and Boult in the 2015 WC.

A hack is a hack in any format. Just because he plays most of his game on flat pitches, conducive to his "batting" style and does well, doesn't make him anything more than a hack. Ditto for Warner and Rohit.
 
McCullum calling out Kane's issues with running between wickets :))
 
Kane already has a clutch innings.... Eden Park 2015, he guided the side home against Australia.


For a player of his quality he should have more than that. It was a clutch knock but it was chasing a low score,NZ bowlers played a bigger role than Kane in that game.
 
A hack is a hack in any format. Just because he plays most of his game on flat pitches, conducive to his "batting" style and does well, doesn't make him anything more than a hack. Ditto for Warner and Rohit.
When I say hack, I mean zero technique and no ability against quality bowlers.

Guptill struggles in Test cricket, but he's proven himself against quality bowlers even when there's been a little bit there for the bowlers.
 
Guptill and Warner aren't hacks LOL. Yes they might struggle in bowling friendly conditions but they are far away from being hacks.
 
For a player of his quality he should have more than that. It was a clutch knock but it was chasing a low score,NZ bowlers played a bigger role than Kane in that game.
There was quite a bit there for the bowlers and Kane finished the game well. But I agree he needs more big knock, this knock was still clutch IMO.
 
When I say hack, I mean zero technique and no ability against quality bowlers.

Guptill struggles in Test cricket, but he's proven himself against quality bowlers even when there's been a little bit there for the bowlers.

There is a reason he struggles in test cricket and that reason is that he is a hack. He struggles in ODIs as well, when the ball moves around or turns off the pitch. Nothing wrong with it these days though, Pakistan would love to have a Guptill in their team.
 
I wonder whether this approach is due to the rain or whether this is the brand of cricket they're going to play in this tournament.
 
There was quite a bit there for the bowlers and Kane finished the game well. But I agree he needs more big knock, this knock was still clutch IMO.


Agreed. Today is a good chance on good batting pitch.
 
There is a reason he struggles in test cricket and that reason is that he is a hack. He struggles in ODIs as well, when the ball moves around or turns off the pitch. Nothing wrong with it these days though, Pakistan would love to have a Guptill in their team.
I've watched nearly every game Guptill has played, he's more than capable of scoring runs in LOI's when there's a bit there. It's Test cricket where he is completely hopeless, even then he has the odd innings where he has scored runs on a green top.
 
Cricket in England is the worst.

Horrible weather and dull atmosphere... I wish every tournament was hosted in Aus or NZ.
 
Cricket in England is the worst.

Horrible weather and dull atmosphere... I wish every tournament was hosted in Aus or NZ.

Agree, most boring, dull and pathetic atmosphere in the stadium.
 
England should be stripped of ODI status. No point playing in pathetic conditions.
 
Scheduling for this tournament has been awful. Cricket really needs to start being played under a covered stadium.
 
England should be hosting ICC tournaments in July and August at the peak of the summer not early June.

Last June was the one of the wettest ever recorded.

Pakistan's tour of England in July and August last year was hardly affected by rain. Alternatively, schedule reserve days.
 
England should be hosting ICC tournaments in July and August at the peak of the summer not early June.

Last June was the one of the wettest ever recorded.

Pakistan's tour of England in July and August last year was hardly affected by rain. Alternatively, schedule reserve days.

If they have to host it in June, they need to schedule more matches in the South-East and less in the Midlands and up North. I don't know why Lord's is not hosting any matches.
 
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] Minus that 237 from total then what were his numbers I would like to know
 
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] Minus that 237 from total then what were his numbers I would like to know

A 237 in a World Cup quarterfinal is more than enough to override any failures in the rest of the tournament.
 
Still raining here...pretty cloudy too. Can see another day of stop/start/stop/start.
 
You didn't notice that I put something extra at the end....

By the way, 2006 as well - at Mohali. In fact, in ODI, since 1999 SF, I am not sure if PAK-NZ had faced each other outside these 3 matches.

2011 World Cup?
 
But it was a home game still and remember what we did to same team in 2011 wc quarter, that's enough to show caliber of that team.
WI in 2011 were a pretty solid side, it was definitely no walk over like you make it sound.

IIRC they crushed Pakistan in the groups stages.
 
Tbh, NZ isn't any better. Nor is WI.
NZ is nowhere as bad and has every 5th or 6th game affected, and the matches that are rained out are mainly down to facilities. It seems like every 2nd game is affected in England which is asking for trouble when hosting ICC tournaments.
 
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Don't understand the need behind a major tournament being held in a country where daily rainfall is the norm. I can still tolerate the Champions Trophy being a rain-affected affair however, England better start investing in some retractable-roof stadiums for the World Cup in 2019 because having the entire World Cup washed out would certainly be a pity.
 
2011 World Cup?

Yes - that makes it clean sweep in this millennium. Something not new to PAK cricket - it's glory ended in 1999 apart from that T20 WC. Even, if I make a PAK all-time XV for Test & ODI - probably only player that'll make the starting XI is someone debuted on March 2000. Something correlated with a decision of ECB (TCCB then) in mid 90s, more than anything else. Though, we have people here extremely proud of PCB's successful PSL .....

Any way - is there any chance of play today? If so, Will has done a fantastic job :14:of opting to bat first in a possible D/L situation.
 
Don't understand the need behind a major tournament being held in a country where daily rainfall is the norm. I can still tolerate the Champions Trophy being a rain-affected affair however, England better start investing in some retractable-roof stadiums for the World Cup in 2019 because having the entire World Cup washed out would certainly be a pity.
I wonder how the same fans defending England as a host will react if Pakistan-India is rained out.
 
Honestly India, Australia and SA are the best places to host ICC tournaments.

ENG is still great place for cricket, but rain indeed is a problem, though 4 WC's were not affected much there. Personally, I liked cricket in AUS most, but in recent days their wickets have gone to worst - in ENG, still one can get a bit of swing & spinners can turn a bit with flight; AUS is almost like glass top these days.
 
ENG is still great place for cricket, but rain indeed is a problem, though 4 WC's were not affected much there. Personally, I liked cricket in AUS most, but in recent days their wickets have gone to worst - in ENG, still one can get a bit of swing & spinners can turn a bit with flight; AUS is almost like glass top these days.
English wickets are roads and every second game is rain affected.
 
India is the best place to host LOI cricket. Great crowds, good coverage, suitable weather for cricket (it does get very hot however) and reasonably well ambiance. The only problem is getting visas to watch a game.
 
Yes let's host a tournament again in NZ where many parts of the world has to wake up in the middle in the night to follow the cricket.
 
Yes - that makes it clean sweep in this millennium. Something not new to PAK cricket - it's glory ended in 1999 apart from that T20 WC. Even, if I make a PAK all-time XV for Test & ODI - probably only player that'll make the starting XI is someone debuted on March 2000. Something correlated with a decision of ECB (TCCB then) in mid 90s, more than anything else. Though, we have people here extremely proud of PCB's successful PSL .....

Any way - is there any chance of play today? If so, Will has done a fantastic job :14:of opting to bat first in a possible D/L situation.

I got the first reference to YK but what decision of the ECB in mid-90's are you talking about bro?
 
India is the best place to host LOI cricket. Great crowds, good coverage, suitable weather for cricket (it does get very hot however) and reasonably well ambiance. The only problem is getting visas to watch a game.

And there are too many diverse venues in India, it's like a world of it's own. South, East, North, West... All venues with a different flavor and crowd.
 
Yes let's host a tournament again in NZ where many parts of the world has to wake up in the middle in the night to follow the cricket.
At least they'll be something to watch in the highlights when you wake up in the morning.
 
ENG is still great place for cricket, but rain indeed is a problem, though 4 WC's were not affected much there. Personally, I liked cricket in AUS most, but in recent days their wickets have gone to worst - in ENG, still one can get a bit of swing & spinners can turn a bit with flight; AUS is almost like glass top these days.

English wickets have changed a lot in the last two years though. I think they have the highest RPO in ODIS for any country over the last two years.
 
england is worst place to play odi trounament..
half of the matches will be rain affected
 
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