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ICC CT 2017 | Pakistan v South Africa | 7th June, 2017 | Birmingham | Pakistan innings

Well he was capable of being a half-decent FTB in Asia for a few years.

Right now he's struggling to even get bat on ball.

I believe in the horse for the course theory but not at an expense of better untested horses waiting in the stable to get a chance. He has scored on dead wickets to his credit but failed miserably in testing conditions.

You may choose to persist with a player who has promise like Azam in other conditions but fascination of sticking with a guy who could not put a bat in foreign conditions is beyond me. When this guy was owned like a clown in RSA against Steyn with all the experience behind him, he should have been done back then. But no, not for PCB clowns; that was not enough.
 
this should do it. Good win for PAK.

Nice to see [MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] recovered and not missing anymore.
 
atleast it have brought back some smile back on fans after india defeat it was terrible man

Absolutely.

The way Pakistan bowled and fielded against the No.1 team after a hammering from India was nothing short of remarkable. The amount of abuse and criticism the team has faced after India, many other teams would have laid down and died. Pakistan team showed real fight here. Win or lose this, fans have had some joy today.
 
Absolutely.

The way Pakistan bowled and fielded against the No.1 team after a hammering from India was nothing short of remarkable. The amount of abuse and criticism the team has faced after India, many other teams would have laid down and died. Pakistan team showed real fight here. Win or lose this, fans have had some joy today.

yeah Exactly i hope we make it to semifinal it will be great
 
Damn, England got this. They bossed this same bowling attack not long ago.

Don't see us beating them but here's a couple of crumbs for comfort - Cardiff is one of the spin friendly venues in England. Slow, low pitch and we did win there v England chasing 300 last August.
 
I want India to beat SA and SL, SL to beat Pak, so that all three Sl, Pak and SA are on 2 points with net run rate deciding the second team for semis which would mean the 2nd team to qualify for semis would be the team India bashed the least :yk
 
Absolutely.

The way Pakistan bowled and fielded against the No.1 team after a hammering from India was nothing short of remarkable. The amount of abuse and criticism the team has faced after India, many other teams would have laid down and died. Pakistan team showed real fight here. Win or lose this, fans have had some joy today.

Have to agree with this! The team looked so dejected after India match.
 
In hindsight....

South Africa should have bowled out Morkel....

Who cares.... south Africa never seem to be able to bring their A game to big tourneys.
 
Are you sure I really want to know when we will start loosing overs can you please reply

If we loose 5-6 overs it would be wonderfully beneficial

23 overs left , i think for each over they allot 4.2 minutes and we still have 123 minutes left so i guess i was wrong. We will start losing overs after 27 minutes
 
Absolutely.

The way Pakistan bowled and fielded against the No.1 team after a hammering from India was nothing short of remarkable. The amount of abuse and criticism the team has faced after India, many other teams would have laid down and died. Pakistan team showed real fight here. Win or lose this, fans have had some joy today.

yeah Exactly i hope we make it to semifinal it will be great

People always look too much into anamolies/flukes, I have no doubt we will make the semis my friends!
 
Yeah and handed power to bunch of socialist thugs, merit steps mean nothing when the system isn't place to check everyone.

Did I say that your government is run by saints? All I am saying that as opposed to Pak, Ind has taken more steps for a fairer system. Take it as a complement - I am very stingy when it comes to giving it to Indians :)
 
I dont trust Pakistan to see this home. I hope rain washes it out.
 
People always look too much into anamolies/flukes, I have no doubt we will make the semis my friends!

yeah man thanks god you did not lose hope and remain positive after india match

other wise i would have leave PP for few weeks if you was not their to defend pakistan team
 
In rain we trust by the current sight of it I dont see the game resuming before an hour if it resumes.
 
People always look too much into anamolies/flukes, I have no doubt we will make the semis my friends!

Considering buying tickets for the semi now but it seems it will be at cardiff.

Winner of Group A v second Group B?

Or do you think we can finish top? :inti
 
Considering buying tickets for the semi now but it seems it will be at cardiff.

Winner of Group A v second Group B?

Or do you think we can finish top? :inti

I don't think there's any way we finish at the top after how the match vs. India turned out. India would have to lose by wide margins against SL and SA and we would have to crush both teams by 150-200 runs. Don't see that happening.
 
thanks and i think as MMHS mention DLS will end the spell of Morkel and rabada or minimium over will be

remaining of them so agree

Use this one

https://www.easycalculation.com/sports/duckworth-lewis-calculator.php

DWL does help the NRR situation for a revised target, but not for such cases when match is stopped for good.

If I take PAK's revised target for 40 overs, it'll be around 200 - so the NRR impact in +0.80 (219 in 50 vs 200 in 40 or less). But, if the match is stopped now, PAK wins but NRR impact is minimum (219/50 vs 119/27) And the volume of run is half, so, it won't pull that 129 runs deficit much.

Any way, PAK won't ever make the cut on NRR after losing 1st match by 129, because SAF also knows the the equation & SRL won't make it 170 runs or 25 overs comfortable win for PAK.
 
It will take Atleast 30 mins to prepare the ground even if it stops Now, the inspections again and again. Chances are bleak.
 
You guys can celebrate. The odds on a Pak win shortening and shortening.

Why's this

Only reason is probably the players loosing the form in the middle when set

But if we only need about 75 it will help won't it
 
Considering buying tickets for the semi now but it seems it will be at cardiff.

Winner of Group A v second Group B?

Or do you think we can finish top? :inti

Think it will be a no.2 finish, no.1 could be unlikely due to RR depends on how awful we make Lanka look :akhtar
 
Use this one

https://www.easycalculation.com/sports/duckworth-lewis-calculator.php

DWL does help the NRR situation for a revised target, but not for such cases when match is stopped for good.

If I take PAK's revised target for 40 overs, it'll be around 200 - so the NRR impact in +0.80 (219 in 50 vs 200 in 40 or less). But, if the match is stopped now, PAK wins but NRR impact is minimum (219/50 vs 119/27) And the volume of run is half, so, it won't pull that 129 runs deficit much.

Any way, PAK won't ever make the cut on NRR after losing 1st match by 129, because SAF also knows the the equation & SRL won't make it 170 runs or 25 overs comfortable win for PAK.

Amazing and thanks bro
 
I don't think there's any way we finish at the top after how the match vs. India turned out. India would have to lose by wide margins against SL and SA and we would have to crush both teams by 150-200 runs. Don't see that happening.

If India lose both games they will be out if we beat Sri Lanka as along with us, South Africa will be on four points.
 
Why's this

Only reason is probably the players loosing the form in the middle when set

But if we only need about 75 it will help won't it

Odds are shortening because if match doesn't get started then Pakistan wins and even if does start Pakistan might get a reduced target with same number of wickets in hand. That's why.
 
Never before have I felt happier for rain in a Pakistan match, nor do I ever recall secretly wishing that it just washes out.
 
Jeez, the odds are nearly negligible Now. The match is very very unlikely to begin.
 
If Australia's match gets rained out ..... they can make Semi Final without winning a Match ..... !!!!
 
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