ICC World Cup 2019 : Points table, Net Run Rates, qualifying scenarios & Stats thread

[Hasan2K8]

Windies and SL can go ahead of BD if they win their 6th game. Windies need to smash NZ. SL got England - goodluck to Lanka. Even if Pak wins against SA they will remain below BD, because of their RR.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Why not number 1?

Australia can lose to England and New Zealand on current form. South Africa has to win at some stage, might be against Australia where they click as a team knowing that they can't qualify and playing without pressure.

Because it is very unlikely that , assuming Australia is beaten by NZ, NZ can't beat both of Pakistan and Windies on current form. . India can also beat BD. That would mean Australia don't have to win any more games. They would be through. You are assuming, for example, that SA would finally click and beat OZ. Much more likely that BD, NZ and SA would click and beat PAK on current form.

 

[Visaal-E-Yaar]

Windies and SL can go ahead of BD if they win their 6th game. Windies need to smash NZ. SL got England - goodluck to Lanka. Even if Pak wins against SA they will remain below BD, because of their RR.

What if we bowled out SA for 58 and chase down in 3 overs.

 

[MSHKing]

Australia only has to win 1 game out of 3 to qualify. They have to play against ENG, NZ and SA. I think, they will beat either SA or NZ and will go through.

 

[Mehndi155]

Eng has to win 2 from 4 games to qualify.
Sl
India
Aus
Nz
If england lose three games agains india australia nz which is very much possible we can be through.

 

[Arsalan Pro]

Because it is very unlikely that , assuming Australia is beaten by NZ, NZ can't beat both of Pakistan and Windies on current form. . India can also beat BD. That would mean Australia don't have to win any more games. They would be through. You are assuming, for example, that SA would finally click and beat OZ. Much more likely that BD, NZ and SA would click and beat PAK on current form.

When did I say that Pakistan and Bangladesh can't lose their remaining games?

The whole purpose of that post was to find the best possible outcome for the teams below Top 4, assuming them to win all their games and to sneak in there in place of one of the teams, I know it's unlikely, but everything is possible.

 

[Hasan2K8]

England most likely to hammer SL. We might have an issue against the last 3. What if England lose their last 3 matches? Imagine England miss out on the top 4!!

 

[PakWC'11Champs]

There is just no way I see Pakistan doing anything unless they win all 4.
And the fact that they have won just ONE Game in the last 15, makes it almost impossible they win 4 straight. So lets say 1 %.
Then add that rain has been washing out games. The odds of having all 4 games played, even lower.

I give us no chance to do this. We simply don't have the momentum. If the England win could not change the fate, nothing will. We beat one of the best teams in the world, in their own home. Then we come out and have Australia, and play flat for first 40 overs. Sure we fought back and made it look like we may even take a W, but it was still a poor poor start. Then India? A joke performance. The only players that have looked like they are here to play are Amir and Babar. Everyone else looks like they are not fit to be playing at this level.

 

[Donal Cozzie]

Be realistic lads the group stage is finished.

Australia/India//England considering their form and the sides they have yet to face are absolutely home and hosed. Only side who you think might slip up would be NZ and they have come through every test so far.

NZ need 1 win or a wash out to end whatever tiny tiny chance Bangladesh has. None of the rest even have a chance.

 

[GLORY OF '92]

Be realistic lads the group stage is finished.

Australia/India//England considering their form and the sides they have yet to face are absolutely home and hosed. Only side who you think might slip up would be NZ and they have come through every test so far.

NZ need 1 win or a wash out to end whatever tiny tiny chance Bangladesh has. None of the rest even have a chance.

You seem adamant even though all the rest still actually have a chance.....

 

[Abdulm123]

i was hopeful... this wc is dead now. Get rid of this bull 2 balls rule and 30 meter boundaries that my brother that plays in u7 can easily clear.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

Very less chance now but umeed pai dunya qaim hai. Lezzz see.

 

[Abdulm123]

And to the ICC, stop taint licking BCCI and ECB, give poor and impoverished boards like WICB and PCB and BCB and support smaller countries and promote the game more within locals of countries who are unfamiliar with the sport. All ICC seems to care about is spoiling England and India and is obsessed with promoting cricket in America. For gods sake no white americans actually play the damn sport its just a bunch of Indian and Pakistani rejects regrouping. Everyone in America is trash. Do it for the future of the wc and the sport before it dies out and turns into a dead rubber game appealing to brain dead 12 year olds who think this is what cricket is all about. This is what the IPL has done to us.

 

[Itachi]

And to the ICC, stop taint licking BCCI and ECB, give poor and impoverished boards like WICB and PCB and BCB and support smaller countries and promote the game more within locals of countries who are unfamiliar with the sport. All ICC seems to care about is spoiling England and India and is obsessed with promoting cricket in America. For gods sake no white americans actually play the damn sport its just a bunch of Indian and Pakistani rejects regrouping. Everyone in America is trash. Do it for the future of the wc and the sport before it dies out and turns into a dead rubber game appealing to brain dead 12 year olds who think this is what cricket is all about. This is what the IPL has done to us.

PCB is poor?

 

[Abdulm123]

PCB is poor?

didn`t mean to add pcb lol.

 

[ab041937]

England most likely to hammer SL. We might have an issue against the last 3. What if England lose their last 3 matches? Imagine England miss out on the top 4!!

I don't see England losing against Australia. When Aussies couldn't stop Bangladesh from scoring a near 350, how do you suppose they can stop Bairstow, Butcher, Stokes, Morgan & company from pummeling their bowlers into submission?

 

[zulfiqar]

I don't see England losing against Australia. When Aussies couldn't stop Bangladesh from scoring a near 350, how do you suppose they can stop Bairstow, Butcher, Stokes, Morgan & company from pummeling their bowlers into submission?

Yeah it's not likely that England would lose any of their games - India is their toughest opponent! But Aus can go down to SA if SA decide to turn it up! Aus can also lose to NZ if NZ have a great day.. WI can also beat NZ as they showed in the warm-up game (Windies just need to bat first!). All possibilities open.

 

[zulfiqar]

I don't see England losing against Australia. When Aussies couldn't stop Bangladesh from scoring a near 350, how do you suppose they can stop Bairstow, Butcher, Stokes, Morgan & company from pummeling their bowlers into submission?

Yeah it's not likely that England would lose any of their games - India is their toughest opponent! But Aus can go down to SA if SA decide to turn it up! Aus can also lose to NZ if NZ have a great day.. WI can also beat NZ as they showed in the warm-up game (Windies just need to bat first!). All possibilities open.

 

[Donal Cozzie]

You seem adamant even though all the rest still actually have a chance.....

The top four are clocking nearly 2 points a game. All the rest are clocking less than 1.

It would require one team to play well well above what they have shown not once not twice but four times, AND for one of the current top four to play well below their level not once not twice but four times also.

Its like in football a team being second, 10 points behind with 5 games to play and the team in first have won five on the trot. Sure, its technically doable, but realistically its all over.

 

[Itachi]

The top four are clocking nearly 2 points a game. All the rest are clocking less than 1.

It would require one team to play well well above what they have shown not once not twice but four times, AND for one of the current top four to play well below their level not once not twice but four times also.

Its like in football a team being second, 10 points behind with 5 games to play and the team in first have won five on the trot. Sure, its technically doable, but realistically its all over.

Will agree with this.

If situation of pak were, "win 4 and enter semi" I would say it was doable.

But now, another team just need to win one from the rest of the 4 and its all over.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

England most likely to hammer SL. We might have an issue against the last 3. What if England lose their last 3 matches? Imagine England miss out on the top 4!!

As long as they beat SL, they can lose their last 3 and still qualify as long as PAK, BD and WI lose arleast 1 game each. Ditto with Australia. These two are almost through.

 

[latecut]

Some people here are fantasizing that teams that are in top four will suddenly start losing all their matches, whereas teams that cannot win if their lives depend on that will suddenly start winning. Such miracles are not going to happen. The teams that are in top four in the point table are there because they know how to win. Teams that are languishing at the bottom are there because they belong there. Every team plays everyone in this format so no team can have any excuse of not getting to play any "easy" opponent.

 

[Savak]

Some people here are fantasizing that teams that are in top four will suddenly start losing all their matches, whereas teams that cannot win if their lives depend on that will suddenly start winning. Such miracles are not going to happen. The teams that are in top four in the point table are there because they know how to win. Teams that are languishing at the bottom are there because they belong there. Every team plays everyone in this format so no team can have any excuse of not getting to play any "easy" opponent.

Well we need a combination of them losing and their matches being rained off. For e.g. If India, Australia, NZ, England lose a game from here or two and then have a few fixtures rained off and are not able to maximize their points. If teams like Bangladesh, WI, Pakistan will all their games from here, they may have a chance of sneaking in by a miracle.

 

[Itachi]

Well we need a combination of them losing and their matches being rained off. For e.g. If India, Australia, NZ, England lose a game from here or two and then have a few fixtures rained off and are not able to maximize their points. If teams like Bangladesh, WI, Pakistan will all their games from here, they may have a chance of sneaking in by a miracle.

Highly unlikely. Its not like Pakistan lost just one or two matches.

 

[MMHS]

View attachment 92814

View attachment 92813

Beautiful table - two sets of neighbors together

I think, mathematically even AFGs are not out of WC yet, but as predicted top 4 are well ahead. I think, that rained off game between IND-NZ eventually can be very crucial - eventually, I think the table will be 1. ENG, 2. IND, 3. AUS, 4. NZ

ENG V NZ
IND V AUS

That was my prediction as well, long back. SAF is in a bit transition, therefore they are struggling, but in a WC in UK, top 5 are well ahead of bottom 5. If This WC was in IND this time, BD would have replaced NZ in top 4, but other 3 are solid as ever in any condition.

 

[zulfiqar]

Some people here are fantasizing that teams that are in top four will suddenly start losing all their matches, whereas teams that cannot win if their lives depend on that will suddenly start winning. Such miracles are not going to happen. The teams that are in top four in the point table are there because they know how to win. Teams that are languishing at the bottom are there because they belong there. Every team plays everyone in this format so no team can have any excuse of not getting to play any "easy" opponent.

You have to remember that some of the big teams have ALL of their big games ahead. For example, England have beaten South Africa and lost to Pakistan. On current form yes, they're favorites to win other games too but just based on that you can't say that they will go on to beat Aus, Ind, NZ and it's not beyond them to lose all 3 of those. Same with Australia.. they've lost to India but haven't faced England or NZ yet: it's totally possible for them to drop these two games. Just giving you an example.

 

[light]

I thought BD loosing today closed the gate for BD/PAk/WI/SL ... SA is almost out. In what scenerio does any of these teams even qualify? I can see BD still might have a slight chance left but surely WI/PAK/SL should be out of contention with AUS winning this one?

 

[BDfanforever]

I thought BD loosing today closed the gate for BD/PAk/WI/SL ... SA is almost out. In what scenerio does any of these teams even qualify? I can see BD still might have a slight chance left but surely WI/PAK/SL should be out of contention with AUS winning this one?

WI have NZ, IND, SRL, AFG--> They could potentially win all 4. They have the bowling lineup to blow away at least NZ, SRL, AFG for sure.

 

[Usergame]

Not sure why people keep thinking Pakistan will win their last four games. It will be a comeback of epic proportions if we manage to do that, specially under a defeated Sarfraz right now.

A wounded South Africa, a confident New Zealand and a fiesty Bangladesh await us. Not sure why fans are so confident.

Here's to being hopeful since we are fans, but realistically speaking this will be the greatest heist Pakistan would ever have pulled off in their history.

It is more realistic that pakistan will lose to afganistan than them winning the last 4 games

 

[Usergame]

WI have NZ, IND, SRL, AFG--> They could potentially win all 4. They have the bowling lineup to blow away at least NZ, SRL, AFG for sure.

Did you mean batting? Westindies have one of the weakest bowling lineups in the world cup. Survive their opening bowlers (who are also inconsistent) and the rest are cannon fodder.

 

[Itachi]

WI have NZ, IND, SRL, AFG--> They could potentially win all 4. They have the bowling lineup to blow away at least NZ, SRL, AFG for sure.

Lol WI lost against minnows.

And India is yet to lose a game in this world cup.

Its very unlikely that WI could beat india.

 

[Hawkeye]

So what's the scenario now for Pak?

Any charts or spreadsheets? Haven't seen after the BD loss.

 

[DeadlyYorker]

So what's the scenario now for Pak?

Any charts or spreadsheets? Haven't seen after the BD loss.

Paks chances are droped from 1% to 0.25% its not even worth discussing till pak win thier next fixture...

 

[Obaidd]

If Eng lose to SL today they will have to win two of their next three matches:: Ind, NZ, Aus.

Pak has to win all four.

 

[Arsalan Pro]

So what's the scenario now for Pak?

Any charts or spreadsheets? Haven't seen after the BD loss.

For Pakistan to qualify without depending on NRR, they would want one of the following to happen along with winning all of their games.

1) England to win against only 1 of India, Australia, New Zealand and Sri Lanka. England will be eliminated.

2) Australia to lose to all of England, New Zealand and South Africa and they will be eliminated.

3) New Zealand to lose to all of England, Australia, Pakistan and West Indies and they will be eliminated.

 

[Hawkeye]

For Pakistan to qualify without depending on NRR, they would want one of the following to happen along with winning all of their games.

1) England to win against only 1 of India, Australia, New Zealand and Sri Lanka. England will be eliminated.

2) Australia to lose to all of England, New Zealand and South Africa and they will be eliminated.

3) New Zealand to lose to all of England, Australia, Pakistan and West Indies and they will be eliminated.

Wow.. thank you!

Have to pray for SL victory today.

 

[ab041937]

Yeah it's not likely that England would lose any of their games - India is their toughest opponent! But Aus can go down to SA if SA decide to turn it up! Aus can also lose to NZ if NZ have a great day.. WI can also beat NZ as they showed in the warm-up game (Windies just need to bat first!). All possibilities open.

Australia only needs 1 points from 3 matches now. To assume that the team which has come so close to qualifying will now start faltering & bottle up in the next 3 matches is stuff of fantasies. If SA does turn up against Australia even then Australia has cushion of 2 more matches. Even a rained-off match will give them that sole point.

 

[SportsWarrior]

Beautiful table - two sets of neighbors together

I think, mathematically even AFGs are not out of WC yet, but as predicted top 4 are well ahead. I think, that rained off game between IND-NZ eventually can be very crucial - eventually, I think the table will be 1. ENG, 2. IND, 3. AUS, 4. NZ

ENG V NZ
IND V AUS

That was my prediction as well, long back. SAF is in a bit transition, therefore they are struggling, but in a WC in UK, top 5 are well ahead of bottom 5. If This WC was in IND this time, BD would have replaced NZ in top 4, but other 3 are solid as ever in any condition.

With no rains they would have walked into the semi finals even now. The one team which should be very upset about rains is BD. They would have beaten SL and India most probably beaten NZ

 

[Ronaldo7]

With no rains they would have walked into the semi finals even now. The one team which should be very upset about rains is BD. They would have beaten SL and India most probably beaten NZ

Lol no. The one team who'd be upset would be pak. They lost an easy point vs Sri lanka.

 

[DeadlyYorker]

Lol no. The one team who'd be upset would be pak. They lost an easy point vs Sri lanka.

Yeh had pak got that 1 point which was stolen from pak by bcci is the differrnce why pak is at 5 match 3 points almost bottem of the table

 

[Hasan2K8]

SL point of view. They’ll think points lost to Pak and BD too. A Coin has two sides!

 

[Ronaldo7]

Yeh had pak got that 1 point which was stolen from pak by bcci is the differrnce why pak is at 5 match 3 points almost bottem of the table

Are you alright?
BD has 2 more points but has played 1 more match. I don't see why that 1 point would help then more than us.

 

[DeadlyYorker]

Are you alright?
BD has 2 more points but has played 1 more match. I don't see why that 1 point would help then more than us.

That ineed is true ,while bd has 2 more points ,pak actually has to go and win to actually get to same stage, not to mention i never talked about bd, its SL who lost total 2 points.
And when ur comparing to bd just look at your nrr before you talk about having same points,having achieved worst nRR

Having said, dont think any of bd,pak,wi,lanka seems to have anychNce at qualifying

And i dont resort to cheap comebacks like are you ok.talk sense in your points made

 

[Ronaldo7]

That ineed is true ,while bd has 2 more points ,pak actually has to go and win to actually get to same stage, not to mention i never talked about bd, its SL who lost total 2 points.
And when ur comparing to bd just look at your nrr before you talk about having same points,having achieved worst nRR

Having said, dont think any of bd,pak,wi,lanka seems to have anychNce at qualifying

And i dont resort to cheap comebacks like are you ok.talk sense in your points made

Cheap? )
What was "cheap" in my so called "comeback"?

 

[DeadlyYorker]

When there nothing good to argue , likes of you oy comes up with are you ok? Correcting grammer, rather than actually discuss the topic.

 

[Ronaldo7]

When there nothing good to argue , likes of you oy comes up with are you ok? Correcting grammer, rather than actually discuss the topic.

How's me asking you "are you ok" considered as me trying to correct your grammar? )

 

[DeadlyYorker]

Plz read the comment and highlight likes of you and may be you will understand

 

[Obaidd]

If Eng lose to SL today they will have to win two of their next three matches:: Ind, NZ, Aus.

Pak has to win all four.

Called it first here. Only on PakPassion. *bow*

 

[salman24]

If SL win, England will have to win 2 out of the games against AUS, IND and NZ which is not easy.

Assuming then Pak wins their games they will be through

 

[zulfiqar]

Well there we go - a table that has opened up and could open up even further if NZ drops to WI (like they did in warm-up) or if AUS drop to SA which they well could if SA plays for pride. Pakistan's only focus is to win the next game first. One step at a time.. SA v PAK promises to be a good game!

 

[Hasan123]

Pakistan and West Indies winning makes it more interesting.

 

[Rayyman]

Can Afghanistan beat India tomorrow?

 

[Mueez]

Called it first here. Only on PakPassion. *bow*

well done!

 

[Mueez]

Can Afghanistan beat India tomorrow?

Only if they bat first.

Rashid Khan will be eager to perform after the thrashing he got.

 

[BDfanforever]

If BD won against NZ, they would been ahead of England now lol

 

[The Viper]

 

[ahaseeb]

So can it happen guys ?

 

[Mkumar825]

Can Afghanistan beat India tomorrow?

Yes 100%

 

[Manager101]

So can it happen guys ?

Yes, now time for Pakistan to unleash the sleeping giants that has been sleeping for a long time. Its due now.

 

[Hasan2K8]

Can Afghanistan beat India tomorrow?

Lets hope Afg wins toss and bats first. Or else we might see 2019 WC’s first 400+ score.

 

[JaDed]

If BD won against NZ, they would been ahead of England now lol

With 7 pts?

 

[Hasan2K8]

West Indies has to beat New Zealand tomorrow. They are well capable of it. Come on Gayle and rest.

This WC has not seen a gaylestorm yet.

 

[hasanali]

If NZ drop tomorrow and we win out then we are favs to go through.

 

[BDfanforever]

With 7 pts?

By Monday.... lol

 

[Mueez]

West Indies has to beat New Zealand tomorrow. They are well capable of it. Come on Gayle and rest.

This WC has not seen a gaylestorm yet.

Gayle double-century anyone?

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

Afg and Wi winning tomorrow is needed for this WC

 

[Hasan2K8]

Gayle double-century anyone?

Gayle yet to unleash properly, sets hope the suns out tomorrow too. I got a feeling windies will beat NZ.

 

[Ronaldo7]

I'm not saying it's likely but Ind is now likely to top the group and IF pak qualify for the semis...


















Ind vs pak in the semis.

 

[Hasan123]

It's still unlikely we will qualify. I don't trust this team to win 4 games in a row. England only need 1 win , same with Australia and NZ.

Let's see what happens.

 

[basitirfan]

Yeah just met the team manager. He was clueless about England’s position and our chances of going into the semis. Goes to show that people are just wanting to make money but not care one bit about the team’s chances

 

[Mkumar825]

Reminder for Pak fan - Pakistan have won 4 of their last 24 ODIs.

 

[Obaidd]

Yeah just met the team manager. He was clueless about England’s position and our chances of going into the semis. Goes to show that people are just wanting to make money but not care one bit about the team’s chances

Shocking.

 

[hasanali]

It's still unlikely we will qualify. I don't trust this team to win 4 games in a row. England only need 1 win , same with Australia and NZ.

Let's see what happens.

We have to win out. If we do that, we have a chance. If WI wins tomorrow that chance becomes much bigger.

 

[K4Kohli]

England even if go through the group stage. I think they will choke in either semis or finals. It would be either Australia or India lifting the cup

 

[Ronaldo7]

It's still unlikely we will qualify. I don't trust this team to win 4 games in a row. England only need 1 win , same with Australia and NZ.

Let's see what happens.

Eng need two wins not one. They'll be on 10 points with one win

 

[Brilliance]

The question is CAN Pak win 4/4 ?

 

[Ronaldo7]

The question is CAN Pak win 4/4 ?

They can.
The question is WILL pak win 4/4?

 

[Obaidd]

England even if go through the group stage. I think they will choke in either semis or finals. It would be either Australia or India lifting the cup

No way India.

 

[DeadlyYorker]

Lets hope Afg wins toss and bats first. Or else we might see 2019 WC’s first 400+ score.

Not really ,indian team doesnt play with blastfromball1 mentality ,no matter what team thry face they will keep on safe tuktuk for first 10 overs,then control till 35-39 and then go berserk in last 11-12 overs...
This has been successful so far.and dont think as a team theyll change the way they play even against afg.

At best 360-370 , not that this team dont have it,but they r following a method of play and will keep on doing it.

 

[JibranAnsari]

in fact , pakistan don't have to win all 4.

if

england loses all three
Sl loses 2 out of their remaining three matches
BD loses 2 out of their remaining three matches
sa loses one of their remaining three matches
west indies loses 2 of their remaining 4 matches.

then pakistan goes into the semis.
how convenient