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ICC World Cup 2023: Heartbreak for Pakistan (270) as South Africa (271/9) win Match 26 by 1 wicket

The way SA chased today, don't see them winning the trophy. Feel confident about India's chances should we meet in a knockout this time.

Ind or NZ wouldn't have allowed SA to touch 200 today. If Pak had Naseem and a half decent captain it should have been a straightforward Pak victory, despite lack of quality spin.
 
Pak will need to win its rem

The way SA chased today, don't see them winning the trophy. Feel confident about India's chances should we meet in a knockout this time.

Ind or NZ wouldn't have allowed SA to touch 200 today. If Pak had Naseem and a half decent captain it should have been a straightforward Pak victory, despite lack of quality spin.
Captaincy can't be blamed today except for the Nawaz decision at the end. His bowling changes were on point and he was trying. Even bringing Usama to get rid of Markram was an inspired move. SA choked and Pak almost won. Razer thin margins with DRS etc.

I personally think India needs to bat first and score 350 and SA needs to chase convincingly against any team in the rest of the world cup to be called favorites. India's chasing ability is unparalleled but they were always chasing under par scores on the day. If India can chase a big total against SA or Eng or score 350+ batting first, we can say India are truly tested and are outright favs.
 
Captaincy can't be blamed today except for the Nawaz decision at the end. His bowling changes were on point and he was trying. Even bringing Usama to get rid of Markram was an inspired move. SA choked and Pak almost won. Razer thin margins with DRS etc.

I personally think India needs to bat first and score 350 and SA needs to chase convincingly against any team in the rest of the world cup to be called favorites. India's chasing ability is unparalleled but they were always chasing under par scores on the day. If India can chase a big total against SA or Eng or score 350+ batting first, we can say India are truly tested and are outright favs.
Captaincy is not the problem. The seamers had enough deliveries to target lower order. But the impact deliveries were less. Batmen were able to get behind each one of them.
 
Credit to both teams for giving a nail biter finally in a otherwise bland one sided world cup. This game had that T20/IPL feeling which put you on the edge of your seat. Also fair play to the crowd who were very supportive of both the teams. Good job.
 
This loss hurts more than v India or afghans. So close to keeping our hopes alive. Can’t believe the umpires call was at the endgame, the call essentially decided who was winning or losing that game. In a parallel universe that’d have been gone and Pak would have won the next 3 to qualify. Heartbroken after today’s loss.
 
Yorkers can easily turn into low full tosses until you have that art like malinga and gul.

The bowlers didn't have enough runs to take the risk. Wasim did bowl a couple of yorkers but both were down legside. Usama Mir and Rauf were also bowling in fear of giving a boundary so bowled safe lengths rather than wicket taking deliveries.
 
Captaincy is not the problem. The seamers had enough deliveries to target lower order. But the impact deliveries were less. Batmen were able to get behind each one of them.
Didn't see much reverse today. Maybe that's the reason.
 
The bowlers didn't have enough runs to take the risk. Wasim did bowl a couple of yorkers but both were down legside. Usama Mir and Rauf were also bowling in fear of giving a boundary so bowled safe lengths rather than wicket taking deliveries.
When in doubt I always question what the Aussies would do. Will they let the blood drip bit by bit or will they go for the jugular vein. I'm 100 percent certain Aussies would have gone for the kill. They would block all singles and bowl pin point Yorkers. That's the attacking move to win games. I'm not certain what other teams would do though. Aussies are willing to lose in order to win.
 
Yorkers can easily turn into low full tosses until you have that art like malinga and gul.
Well you either go for victory or don’t. I don’t think shamsi could have done anything to a low full toss anyway, so a yorker in that instance wasn’t that high risk.

Certainly better than a drag down from finger spinner! I mean honestly - what a pathetic ending
 
Malik highlighted the fact that when Markham got out, he had a word with Maharaj when he was going out to bat. Maharaj was probably told what to do.

In comparison no message was sent by the team management to the likes of Nawaz, Shaheen, Wasim Jr on the importance of batting the full 50 overs. In any case, these players are experienced professionals and should have known what to do in that situation.
 
Wasim Akram was livid saying when you are a professional with 5 years plus of playing experience, you should know these things by default. Moin blaming Nawaz and rightfully so i.e. he was the last recognized batsman at the crease and he should have taken responsibility to bat till the end and only attempting the calculated big shots in the last 2 overs
 
When in doubt I always question what the Aussies would do. Will they let the blood drip bit by bit or will they go for the jugular vein. I'm 100 percent certain Aussies would have gone for the kill. They would block all singles and bowl pin point Yorkers. That's the attacking move to win games. I'm not certain what other teams would do though. Aussies are willing to lose in order to win.
I agree, I was about to say that Pakistan cricket doesn't have Aussie levels of cricket expertise but then I remembered Javed Miandad was one of the shrewdest onfield tacticians 40 years ago. But it's easier to bowl yorkers or huge leg spins when you have 30 or so runs to play with. When you have only 11 then it becomes a bit harder.
 
I agree, I was about to say that Pakistan cricket doesn't have Aussie levels of cricket expertise but then I remembered Javed Miandad was one of the shrewdest onfield tacticians 40 years ago. But it's easier to bowl yorkers or huge leg spins when you have 30 or so runs to play with. When you have only 11 then it becomes a bit harder.
But it's the only option Babar should have exercised.

Because there was always the risk of conceding singles and losing.

Should have brought extra men in and asked Keshav to hit over the top and bowled Usama.

If SA tailenders are good enough to score boundaries then fair enough.

On the other hand allowing risk free singles was probably a little dumb on the part of Pakistan.

Maybe not the main reason why you lost but certainly reduced whatever little chance of win that you had.

Babar is way too risk averse
 
Moin blaming Nawaz and rightfully so i.e. he was the last recognized batsman at the crease and he should have taken responsibility to bat till the end and only attempting the calculated big shots in the last 2 overs
Shaheen goes for an almighty slog one ball and defends next ball and gets out. His batting seems to have regressed.
 
But it's the only option Babar should have exercised.

Because there was always the risk of conceding singles and losing.

Should have brought extra men in and asked Keshav to hit over the top and bowled Usama.

If SA tailenders are good enough to score boundaries then fair enough.

On the other hand allowing risk free singles was probably a little dumb on the part of Pakistan.

Maybe not the main reason why you lost but certainly reduced whatever little chance of win that you had.

Babar is way too risk averse

I just always got the feeling we would lose it. It's a habit since Babar became captain that we lose the really tight games. I firmly believe even with this squad a decent captain would have squeezed out 5 to 6 wins.
 
Interesting theory I am hearing - was Shadab’s injury deliberately overstated so that he could be substituted? Everybody knew he was bowling pies and his real worth was his batting, so did Pak deliberately use concussion sub as a tactic to get a slightly better bowler once the batting was out of the way?
 
Interesting theory I am hearing - was Shadab’s injury deliberately overstated so that he could be substituted? Everybody knew he was bowling pies and his real worth was his batting, so did Pak deliberately use concussion sub as a tactic to get a slightly better bowler once the batting was out of the way?
Unsure. But India did that in test cricket if I recall correctly.
 
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It was a choker of a match from Pakistan. Batting first they should have crossed 300 and bowling 2nd they missed out on a big opportunity to bowl out SA.
 
Interesting theory I am hearing - was Shadab’s injury deliberately overstated so that he could be substituted? Everybody knew he was bowling pies and his real worth was his batting, so did Pak deliberately use concussion sub as a tactic to get a slightly better bowler once the batting was out of the way?
Rules were exploited. But it didn't help in the end.
 
Shadab Khan had injured his shoulder in the field. How come it was considered a concussion injury ? During the closing moments of the match, when Pakistan had a real chance, Shadab Khan was looking as animated and alert as any other spectator in the crowd.

It takes several days for a victim of concussion to recover. This fake concussion substitution left a bad taste in the mouth.
 
Shadab Khan had injured his shoulder in the field. How come it was considered a concussion injury ? During the closing moments of the match, when Pakistan had a real chance, Shadab Khan was looking as animated and alert as any other spectator in the crowd.

It takes several days for a victim of concussion to recover. This fake concussion substitution left a bad taste in the mouth.

Judging by the people who liked this post, I can see why this was posted.
 
Interesting theory I am hearing - was Shadab’s injury deliberately overstated so that he could be substituted? Everybody knew he was bowling pies and his real worth was his batting, so did Pak deliberately use concussion sub as a tactic to get a slightly better bowler once the batting was out of the way?

Try and watch games before commenting like this

We ALL saw how he fell.
 
Pakistan make first concussion sub in Cricket World Cup history

Pakistan made the first-ever use of the concussion substitute law in the history of the ICC Men’s Cricket World Cup against South Africa in Chennai on Friday.

Spin-bowling all-rounder Shadab Khan suffered an injury inside the first over of South Africa’s second innings at the Chidambaram Stadium and was unable to continue in the game.

And his replacement Usama Mir took a wicket in his very first over.

Shadab attempted a run-out, swooping in the circle and producing a diving throw that skimmed past the stumps.

But the athleticism of the move had a knock-on effect on Shadab, who hit the ground hard onto his right shoulder, with his head whipping down towards the rock-hard Chennai square.

It was unclear from replays whether Shadab’s head had struck the surface or whether he had suffered whiplash from the intense motion following his shoulder’s impact with the ground.

But it was immediately clear that the 25-year-old was suffering from the incident, as he lay completely still while waiting for medical attention.

The Pakistan all-rounder left the field of play after initial tests and was later ruled unable to continue.

The concussion substitution rule meant that Usama Mir was allowed to take his place as an active member of the bowling attack.

The change is the first time that a concussion substitute has ever been used at an ICC Men’s Cricket World Cup.

Shadab's injury had occurred so early in the innings that he was yet to bowl a single delivery. And Usama Mir made an immediate impact upon his introduction, dismissing Rassie van der Dussen for 21 in his very first over.

Both bowlers are leg-break spinners, with Shadab having the better average and economy rate over the course of his ODI career.

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Shadab Khan had injured his shoulder in the field. How come it was considered a concussion injury ? During the closing moments of the match, when Pakistan had a real chance, Shadab Khan was looking as animated and alert as any other spectator in the crowd.

It takes several days for a victim of concussion to recover. This fake concussion substitution left a bad taste in the mouth.

Concussion "victims" can act perfectly normal, but for 48-72 hours after the head impact they may suddenly show bad symptoms, which may even be fatal

It is not like an Indian movie where people lie down after head impact and lose their memory

there was a footballer who hurt his head, walked off the field as a sub, and later passed away
 
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It was an excellent and outstanding performance by South Africa.

1. They lost the toss and had to chase which they are not comfortable at all. They are a different beast when batting first.

2. With the ball, SA started exceptionally well. They took wickets and controlled the flow of runs quite beautifully.

3. When Pakistan's middle order order put up the partnership then again SA were excellent in pulling them back. At one stage it appeared that Pakistan were all on their way to 300. However SA bowled them out in 47 overs. Pakistan were not allowed to bat 50 overs. Again brilliant effort to do this.

4. While chasing SAs batsmen started quite decently and always kept the required run rate under check even though wickets were falling. In fact even Makram got out as he wanted to be ahead of the game and not chasing the game. Quite a sound strategy in my opinion.

5. Finally when SA were 9 wickets down, everyone thought that Pakistan will win the game. But it was a cool and calculated partnership between their no #9 & no #11. Yes, you read that right - it was between their #9 & #11. There was no top order batsman guiding the no #11 but a number #9 guiding the no #11
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6. You know what was brilliant about the last wicket partnership. They coolly blocked the pace bowlers and took the game deep. They knew that there was no option but the last three overs had to be bowled by Pakistan's spinners. Think of this calculation in the heat of the battle. As soon as the spinner came Maharaj became Maharaj
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7. And finally all of these happened in Chennai which is the least favorable venue for SA considering the conditions and the pitch. SAs pace bowlers were not in equation at all. SA's batsmen as well prefer the ball coming nicely onto the pitch i.e. a Wankhede type pitch and not a Chennai type ones.

8. SA's spin attack is considerably weaker than their pace attack. But in fact Shamsi out bowled the Pakistan spinners and created a wreck by taking 4 wickets.

9. SA were missing their premier pace bowler - Kagiso Rabada.

All in all an outstanding performance considering that everything was against them - the pitch, the toss and the loss of their strike bowler.
 
Pakistan have been fined 20 per cent of their match fee for maintaining a slow over-rate against South Africa in a league match of the ICC Men’s Cricket World Cup 2023 on Friday.

Richie Richardson of the Emirates ICC Elite Panel of Match Referees imposed the sanction after Babar Azam’s side was ruled to be four overs short of the target after time allowances were taken into consideration.

In accordance with Article 2.22 of the ICC Code of Conduct for Players and Player Support Personnel, which relates to minimum over-rate offences, players are fined five per cent of their match fee for every over their side fails to bowl in the allotted time.

Babar pleaded guilty to the offence and accepted the proposed sanction, so there was no need for a formal hearing.

On-field umpires Alex Wharf and Paul Reiffel, third umpire Richard Illingworth and fourth umpire Richard Kettleborough leveled the charge.
 
Credit to both teams for giving a nail biter finally in a otherwise bland one sided world cup. This game had that T20/IPL feeling which put you on the edge of your seat. Also fair play to the crowd who were very supportive of both the teams. Good job.
Brother someone hacked your account, you are praising the Chennai crowd?

But to be honest Chennai crowd was great, supported all teams without things getting ugly. Just a wholesome positive vibe which suits a tournament as big as the world cup. Players also deserve respect and support from the crowd irrespective of nationality. And credit to Chennai curator for the pitches, most balanced ones in this tournament and helped quicks, spinners, good batting and the 250-280 score range which gives the most thrilling games.
 
This nail biting finish came about because of choking by South African batsmen while chasing. Similar totals were chased by non choking teams (New Zealand, India, Afghanistan) with ease.
 
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