ICC World Cup 2023: Pakistan (200/1) keep their hopes of a Semi-Final berth alive with a 21 runs DLS win over New Zealand (401/6)

[heddie19]

He clearly mentioned odi lol.

First of in test babar frequently gets embrassed by saud and Abdullah.

In odi he's an embrassment if he plays against even semi decent attacks. His game against afg was a comedy and a tragedy cause he's the biggest bunny of spin. Dudes lucky you have sodhi bowling and fakhar took all spin pressure off.

In t20, he's obv gonna outscore everyone, he's a god damn opener . And even then he vanished for an entire world cup cause no more c string bowling lol.

How many matches, runs and tons Saud and Abdullah have got under their belt?
Babar has scored 4 consecutive 50s against Afghani spin in last 4 games?
What are you smoking bro?

The other teams play t20 without openers? LOL

He was the top run scorer of 21 T20 WC and scored runs in WC 22 when it mattered.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Bro try to stop them. Run onto the pitch or something. Do it for your bros at PP

Chinnaswamy Sub Air drainage

Unless, there's more rain , match is continuing

 

[Buffet]

Less overs may actually make it possible to chase runs. 400 runs are a bit too much.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Have any sixes been hit towards where yor are sitting?

Yeah. Fakhar nailed one. The one where Chapman dived near the boundary.

 

[hamzie]

Chinnaswamy Sub Air drainage

Unless, there's more rain , match is continuing

make it rain then

 

[Syed1]

I see. Thanks for that explanation.

I know that there is a movement in India to subjugate Urdu. I don’t know whether it is popular but I know it certainly exists. For instance, they target Bollywood as being “Urduwood” because of Bollywoods use of Urdu over Hindi. I assumed that this use of J over Z was because of that movement.

Nevertheless, I understand that different people in different parts will pronounce words in different ways.

I understand pronunciation part but what's so difficult in typing 'Z' instead of 'J'.


Unless Indians genuinely believe it is jaJba and not jaZba

 

[ExpressPacer]

Wow just checked we are chasing 400 and captain dosti yaari isn't even batting at 100 SR after playing 50 balls.


Have we ever produced a more overhyped player? King of useless runs.

Imam Ul Haq enters the chat

 

[shariqnoor]

Iftikhar needs to play an absolute blinder otherwise very difficult. The same kind of innings he played against NZ in Pakistan.

 

[SalimBhai]

How many matches, runs and tons Saud and Abdullah have got under their belt?
Babar has scored 4 consecutive 50s against Afghani spin in last 4 games?
What are you smoking bro?

The other teams play t20 without openers? LOL

He was the top run scorer of 21 T20 WC and scored runs in WC 22 when it mattered.

If fakhar goes send in chacha or Agha. Match starting in 25 minutes

 

[aukhan]

Babar’s tuk tuk will cost us now.
Fakhar will be forced to take more chances to compensate for him.

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

Take it easy bro. I’m just genuinely curious why Indians have such a hard time pronouncing Z. Don’t have to get your socks in a twist.

But I guess that’s the type of insecurity 800+ year of rule causes among some.

if '800 years of rule 'is your signature non cricketing comment, am happy it brings the sunshine in your existence.

for the record - '800 years of rule' was never over entire india - there are heaps of places and my antecendents are from one of those places where that '800 years of rule never extended'....

and lastly just like the skeleton is the basis of a human body with the various external features differring....sanskrit/prakrit/pali/hindi is the skeleton of urdu which 'acquired' persion, turkish and arabic words.....sanskrit is the latin of the east, an ancient language that '800 years of rule' never managed to extinguish....and this post is going to be deleted - i can bet on it

i guess you will sleep happier with your 800 years....codswoddle'

 

[UzmanBeast]

If Pakistan manage to chase this down, it will be a bailout for the pace attack (except Wasim who was excellent again).

The likes of Shaheen and Haris have failed to step up whenever it mattered. Just goes to show again how pace is nothing in ODI cricket if one does not have the bowling IQ to remain consistent, patient, and set up batsmen.

 

[mominsaigol]

Out side minnows, who else has plucked trees for PAK in last 4-5 years?

FZ has played two blinders this WC, but before that in last one year I can recall much of him…. Probably Kiwi reserves.

Innings building at #4 is a different skill, if you think that these PSL groomed T20 players will come & replace someone batting at 50/90 stats in middle order…. That too against non-minnows, can’t convince you. We have to agree to disagree here.

Guy has other issues - foppish character, doesn’t have a sense of what is appropriate & what not in a cricket field, has a tendency to self boasting & stealing credit, a bit loyalist & has his favourites- for that, he is a disaster as Captain. But as a player, he is the mvp of PAK white ball game - he is an all rounder actually for that he handles two roles.

Ok, if not him - who’ll keep for PAK? Surely if he is playing, hd should bat at 4 as he’ll be useless at 6/7 & doesn’t need to be in top 3. So, who you think should be the white ball WK & then we can find his batting position compared to MR.

Give haris a long rope and 100+ matches and he's surpassing rizzu since haris was the one who rescued him in t20 wc.

Rizzu was a complete failure from 2015 to 2018. He had 3 years to develop before those 2 100's against d string aus.

Since then he's the pinnacle of mediocrity. You're comparing a player who has 100× games under his belt to a raw newbie who ironically still did better then him in a tournament.

As for keeping, Sarfraz isn't better then rizwan as a batsmen but he plays for the team and has more clutch innings and match winning innings then rizzu has ever had or done.

The fact an old and unfit sarfi replaced rizwan in test and top scored is enough to justify.

These insane stat pads is what causes the delusion of rizzu being good.

Rizzu and Babar are the 2 biggest frauds in Pakistan cricket his past decade, followed by imam and misbah

 

[Major]

@Nikhil_cric any chance of rain still?

 

[FollowThru]

Target for 32 overs would be around 250.

 

[Rana]

Bro try to stop them. Run onto the pitch or something. Do it for your bros at PP.

Lol maybe ask Rizwan to go and tell the umpires I’m the greatest cricketer to never win a World Cup so let us go through

 

[hamzie]

@Nikhil_cric any chance of rain still?

@Nikhil_cric please say yes

 

[Rana]

Target for 32 overs would be around 250.

How did you work that out?

 

[Nikhil_cric]

@Nikhil_cric any chance of rain still?

Very good chance of rain. It's pitch black if not for these artificial lights

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Lol maybe ask Rizwan to go and tell the umpires I’m the greatest cricketer to never win a World Cup so let us go through

Anything will do bro.

Tell them about Sharjeel chakka of Mitchl Starc 8 years ago.

Whatever it takes!

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Very good chance of rain. It's pitch black if not for these artificial lights

Love you bro keep delivering the good news

 

[Syed1]

Very good chance of rain. It's pitch black if not for these artificial lights

Somebody bump the rain dance thread lol

 

[mominsaigol]

How many matches, runs and tons Saud and Abdullah have got under their belt?
Babar has scored 4 consecutive 50s against Afghani spin in last 4 games?
What are you smoking bro?

The other teams play t20 without openers? LOL

He was the top run scorer of 21 T20 WC and scored runs in WC 22 when it mattered.

When it mattered? He disappeared the entire tournament and had a catch drop respite by NZ, it mattered the most in the final, what happened then?

He's an opener, he'll obviously score high, his 39 of 34 was match losing in 2021 wc, also ill check the stats in a bit cause I can't verify if you're telling the truth or not.

His 50 in the previous game was embrassing and made us lose the game. Below par score and weak 50 in general.

Saud and Abdullah are raw. You're comparing an experienced batsmen to raw newbies, shows how desperate you are for the argument.

Today if fakhar hadn't played and we got washed put, Babar would be the sole reason for the defeat.

 

[Buffet]

Target for 32 overs would be around 250.

It's easy to get them with 9 wickets in hands. Full match here would have been awesome given how Fakhar was going.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

@Nikhil_cric please say yes

Like I said , theres a very high chance of rain.

 

[Fazzy321]

Whole Pakistan needs to do rain dance right at this moment!

 

[MenInG]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1720764741553967169

 

[UzmanBeast]

Give haris a long rope and 100+ matches and he's surpassing rizzu since haris was the one who rescued him in t20 wc.

Rizzu was a complete failure from 2015 to 2018. He had 3 years to develop before those 2 100's against d string aus.

Since then he's the pinnacle of mediocrity. You're comparing a player who has 100× games under his belt to a raw newbie who ironically still did better then him in a tournament.

As for keeping, Sarfraz isn't better then rizwan as a batsmen but he plays for the team and has more clutch innings and match winning innings then rizzu has ever had or done.

The fact an old and unfit sarfi replaced rizwan in test and top scored is enough to justify.

These insane stat pads is what causes the delusion of rizzu being good.

Rizzu and Babar are the 2 biggest frauds in Pakistan cricket his past decade, followed by imam and misbah

You are delusional if you think Sarfaraz is a match winner.

People like you propel an agenda to get your mediocre players back into the team so they can waste spaces and time.

If Babar and Rizwan are mediocre, then Sarfaraz is the equivalent of a tailender batting with their teeth.

 

[globetrotter]

Match resuming…. what’s target now?

 

[Nado_]

Babar needs to hit out and bring in Saud who can take it to the three spinners.

 

[kingusama92]

It will be a 41-over chase. The target is 342. We start at 6:20pm local time, so 20 minutes from now

 

[Syed1]

41 over game target 342

 

[t_kaay]

342 from 41 overs is being suggested as the target now

 

[GLORY OF '92]

41 overs target 342

 

[ExpressPacer]

if '800 years of rule 'is your signature non cricketing comment, am happy it brings the sunshine in your existence.

for the record - '800 years of rule' was never over entire india - there are heaps of places and my antecendents are from one of those places where that '800 years of rule never extended'....

and lastly just like the skeleton is the basis of a human body with the various external features differring....sanskrit/prakrit/pali/hindi is the skeleton of urdu which 'acquired' persion, turkish and arabic words.....sanskrit is the latin of the east, an ancient language that '800 years of rule' never managed to extinguish....and this post is going to be deleted - i can bet on it

i guess you will sleep happier with your 800 years....codswoddle'

Yes, you are right. Glad to know one of your ancestors is from the one village where the rule didn’t extend. Guess the rest of your ancestors though didn’t have that privilege which explains your insecurity.

On the subject though, I think Sanskrit is a beautiful language in its own right and I have respect for its contributions to Urdu. Having said that, I don’t think Sanskrit or Hindi needs to butcher Urdu words to display its own authenticity. Use Hindi/Sanskrit words instead of creating a new creole language.

 

[emranabbas]

Is the rain going to effect the outfield?

 

[rhony]

340 in 41 overs. It's a 180 run target in 19.3 overs with 9 wickets in hand. Possible

 

[hamzie]

game to restart in 20 minutes
iA rain will come before then

 

[kingusama92]

So they need 182 off 19.3 with 9 wickets.

That's quite possible.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Somebody bump the rain dance thread lol

C'mon. There should be a PP zoom call with a rain dance with @Major and @MenInG leading the way and it should be streamed live.

This much you can do for your team , no ?

 

[t_kaay]

180 odd from 20ish overs.....its basically a T20 game for Pakistan now

 

[shokz1408]

So 9 an over for next 20 overs 182 more runs hmmmmm

 

[Syed1]

Basically need 180 in the next 20. Kind of turned into a tough but doable T20 from an impossible ODI. All thanks to Fakhar. Captain dosti yaari tried his best to make us lose.

 

[IAJ]

This is a very gettable total for Pakistan. A complete T20 match from now

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

It will be a 41-over chase. The target is 342. We start at 6:20pm local time, so 20 minutes from now

i think pak have a red hot chance ina shortened chase scenario

 

[Major]

340 in 41 overs. It's a 180 run target in 19.3 overs with 9 wickets in hand. Possible

Na. We not playing t20 batters. If play is to start than we need a score that id below ten overs atleast.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Shorter match means Pakistan should win.

Much easier to score 9 for 20 overs than 30 overs.

 

[Ali Active]

Pak is entertaining to say the least funny way of keeping fans right to the edge

 

[nish_mate]

Come on Pakistan.....


Note to all baiters and haters,- some loads of Indians cheer for Pakistan in neutral games

 

[globetrotter]

182 in 19 overs?

 

[batandballbattle]

So they need 182 off 19.3 with 9 wickets.

That's quite possible.

have to play it like a t20 now
fakhar holds the key, will be harder with a fresher pitch but hopefully he keeps middling it...

 

[RKhan_Cricket]

182 from 117 balls

 

[heddie19]

When it mattered? He disappeared the entire tournament and had a catch drop respite by NZ, it mattered the most in the final, what happened then?

He's an opener, he'll obviously score high, his 39 of 34 was match losing in 2021 wc, also ill check the stats in a bit cause I can't verify if you're telling the truth or not.

His 50 in the previous game was embrassing and made us lose the game. Below par score and weak 50 in general.

Saud and Abdullah are raw. You're comparing an experienced batsmen to raw newbies, shows how desperate you are for the argument.

Today if fakhar hadn't played and we got washed put, Babar would be the sole reason for the defeat.

Catches drops are part of the game. You saw recently how we gave Warner his form back?

You know who had multiple catches drops to score his only t20i ton against the same Afghanistan you were just mocking?

I don't understand what logic you try to give every time. It is against the soul of cricket.

Yes Saud and Abdullah are raw and really good in red ball so far. I am already a huge Abdullah fan, I would never try to argue on how much you'd wana praise him.

No one disagrees even a bit about Fakhar's blinder today but that is how Cricket is played. Agressor + Anchor. A perfect partnership with Fakhar to be given the most credit for.

 

[Syed1]

I do hope it starts raining again lol

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

I understand pronunciation part but what's so difficult in typing 'Z' instead of 'J'.

Unless Indians genuinely believe it is jaJba and not jaZba

You know what, it’s funny but this is also very likely. Many of us probably do.

See you grow up pronouncing it like that you’ll end up writing it like that.

Nothing wrong with it; language is always flexible and ever changing.

 

[rhony]

Na. We not playing t20 batters. If play is to start than we need a score that id below ten overs atleast.

Don't see much difference in batting line up in this game vs T20s. If Fakhar stays for 8 to 10 overs, the game's up

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

182 in 19 overs?

19.3 to be specific

182 from 117

 

[PakPremi]

Pakistan collapsed after rain against India after being 150 for 2 I believe in the Asia Cup. So not too confident now.

 

[GLORY OF '92]

Basically Fakhar and Ifti miracle.

Rest will crumble fast

 

[Major]

C'mon. There should be a PP zoom call with a rain dance with @Major and @MenInG leading the way and it should be streamed live.

This much you can do for your team , no ?

Hey your the one sitting in the stadium who will get wet

 

[mominsaigol]

You are delusional if you think Sarfaraz is a match winner.

People like you propel an agenda to get your mediocre players back into the team so they can waste spaces and time.

If Babar and Rizwan are mediocre, then Sarfaraz is the equivalent of a tailender batting with their teeth.

Again attacking and nitpicking to act as if you have some superior stance. That dopamine effect really does wonders doesn't it? Please let me have some of what you're having?

When did I say sarfraz is a full time match winner? Sarfi however factually has won us games, most importantly him and Wahab being the soke cause for Pakistan reaching quater finals in 2015 WC and sarfi being the prime reason for NZ victory in test and making a great test comeback.

Babar and rizwan have propogated actual match losing innings via their performances, big difference.

I never said I wanted sarfi back, I did however present a factual argument. The day rizwan is responsible for us winning a cup in any shape or capacity is the day I will concede.

Sarfraz led well in ct 2017, fakhar has played innings rizzu can only dream of,

^^ What exactly has rizwan done when the team needs him the most? Win against the 3rd weakest team of the tournament in a group stages and somehow that warrants bigger praise the ct victory and what falhar and sarfi have done over the years?

It doesn't matter what your stats or numbers are if these 2 vanish when it counts. If fakhar didn't perform today, rn Babar and rizwan would be the reason for our loss had it been washed off cause we wouldn't be ahead of the rr, we'd be 60 runs behind lol

 

[Nado_]

Yes it’s like a 20 over game but we not going to get 6 over of opening powerplay . However we have advantage of two set batsman .

 

[emranabbas]

340 in 41 overs. It's a 180 run target in 19.3 overs with 9 wickets in hand. Possible

All depends on how the ball travels on the outfield after rain

 

[m.shah]

If babar had played little faster that would have been ideal.

 

[Kroll]

The rain break might have been detrimental as we may lose momentum not that Babar had any!

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

Is the rain going to effect the outfield?

Yes. Difficult to grip for bowlers

 

[Asif321]

So we can’t beat record of chasing 400 . Anyways easy now

 

[Buffet]

It's t20 game now with 9 wickets in hands.

 

[hitthestump]

182 in 19 overs?

At Bangalore this is a very gettable target.

Plenty of variables to consider though. NZ will come back with fresh bowling plans to Fakhar. We’ve lost momentum and there may be some change in the pitch from the rain.

Fakhar needs to chill for a couple of overs as you can always make it up on this ground once you’ve assessed the conditions.

 

[t_kaay]

Being a Pakistani supporter is so stressful......very shortly, we will either be on the verge of a thrilling victory, or have been bundled out for another 50 odd runs.......

 

[Shafi]

dahani who was dropped unfairly
ayub
danish
talat or khurram
no reason why all 4 cant play. will be better than this tukbar and co. and dahani wouldnt have done any worse than rauf.
danish can be the AR.

Cone On Dhani!!!! This guy will give 150 runs

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Hey your the one sitting in the stadium who will get wet

It's covered, for the most part. I won't be affected at all

 

[Nado_]

Question is will the wet condition suit us better or New Zealand might go against their spinners

 

[mominsaigol]

Catches drops are part of the game. You saw recently how we gave Warner his form back?

You know who had multiple catches drops to score his only t20i ton against the same Afghanistan you were just mocking?

I don't understand what logic you try to give every time. It is against the soul of cricket.

Yes Saud and Abdullah are raw and really good in red ball so far. I am already a huge Abdullah fan, I would never try to argue on how much you'd wana praise him.

No one disagrees even a bit about Fakhar's blinder today but that is how Cricket is played. Agressor + Anchor. A perfect partnership with Fakhar to be given the most credit for.

You put babar on the pedestal of kohli, and you vanish when babar doesn't perform.

That's enough to prove you're the biggest babar fan cause both babar and you have one thing in common, and that's coward ducking mentality

 

[Energy]

Rizwan, Saud, Iftikhar, Salman. That's 4 decent batters to follow after the current pair. Between them they should be able to last 19 overs and smash the spinners.

But NZ will be the happier team with this equation.

Pakistan will lose if they went into the rain break with the mentality of not wanting to come out as they were ahead on DLS. It's all in the mindset.

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

It's a T20 now

180 in 19 overs

Quite possible

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

The other issue/challenge is if rain returns we also need to be aware of the DLS score

So we can't just give wickets away as we'll end up falling behind

The coaching team need to have the calculator at the ready and keep the players constantly informed

 

[globetrotter]

Yes it’s like a 20 over game but we not going to get 6 over of opening powerplay . However we have advantage of two set batsman .

Set batsman rhythm disturbed due to Rain break, batsmen have to restart again

 

[mominsaigol]

Lol fakhar can get it. Imagine if fakhar gets out and we have our legendary t20 openers chase 180 in 19 . Allah khair karei

 

[t_kaay]

The other issue/challenge is if rain returns we also need to be aware of the DLS score

So we can't just give wickets away as we'll end up falling behind

The coaching team need to have the calculator at the ready and keep the players constantly informed

They normally have it shown on the scoreboard if rain has affected the game so hopefully they will always be aware of where they need to be.