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ICC World Cup 2023: Pakistan (200/1) keep their hopes of a Semi-Final berth alive with a 21 runs DLS win over New Zealand (401/6)

CrIc_Mystique said:
but beauty also comes with a price. i wish we'd plant more trees and really care for the environment.
the way delhi is going with the pollution levels....the less said the better...bombay is also heading there...so is mid central gujarat with all the chemical industries sprouting up
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It's amazing how polluted Bombay has become despite the sea next to it. Imagine if there were paddy farmers outside Bombay burning stuff - how much worse would it be?
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Every milestone and boundary by PAK has been cheered.

Not as much as NZ but still.
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at least it has been cheered, and you are in stadium.
if pak media was to be believed, pak was playing onthe dark side of the moon and all the cheers were reserved for the opposition...:)
 
Pak needs to win this to keep hopes alive. NZ might be the team falling off the top 4 position. Australia have to easy games against BD and Afghanistan to come so Aus is basically through.
 
Visaal-E-Yaar said:
Babar can't even bat with 100 SR.
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Look it would be fine if he could do what Van der Dussen did the other night against NZ. It was even slower and cumbersome than Babar’s knock right now but the difference is Van der Dussen knows how to accelerate and go on. He wound up on 130 odd in 110 which in that game was amazing. If Babar converts to 120 off 95 he’s done a job but he definitely has to go after it in a massive chase like this. If he gets out for 60 odd off 65 it’s just not good enough.
 
Varun said:
It's amazing how polluted Bombay has become despite the sea next to it. Imagine if there were paddy farmers outside Bombay burning stuff - how much worse would it be?
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yeah....hopefully our politicians wake up and stop the stubble burning in the gurgaon ncr areas....else Delhi will be a joke ....and we want to host the olympics in 2040 or something....hopefully they will host in banglore or some place other than delhi unless there is an extreme makeover or global warming kicks in with a vengence and that place improves
 
hass said:
Look it would be fine if he could do what Van der Dussen did the other night against NZ. It was even slower and cumbersome than Babar’s knock right now but the difference is Van der Dussen knows how to accelerate and go on. He wound up on 130 odd in 110 which in that game was amazing. If Babar converts to 120 off 95 he’s done a job but he definitely has to go after it in a massive chase like this. If he gets out for 60 odd off 65 it’s just not good enough.
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As soon as babar try to hit 6 he will caught 10 yards outside cricle.
 
Markhor said:
What on earth is a bowling team meant to do on this ground ? There's absolutely no margin for error.
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Just imagine if Imam was playing instead of Fakhar then we would be saying something completely different.
 
PakFan2010 said:
Rained off match is not good enough for Pak. NRR doesn't improve enough. SL will lose badly to New Zealand.

We need the rain to stop and for Fakhar to smash 200 off 140 balls.
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Once we conceded 400 it was never about NRR any longer.

As I said earlier - we need a miracle to chase this in 50 overs let alone 35 LMAO 🤣

Get the win and move on to the final round of games..
 
msb314 said:
Not sure I understand Babar’s criticism on this forum today. We were never going to chase this in 35 overs (this will be the 2nd highest chase in 50 overs of all time if we get there lol 😂)

We are above par score anyway so not sure what the problem is..

Can someone explain?
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Not sure what's there to explain.

We are above par score Inspite of babar not because of him. Going at under 100 sr when chasing a mammoth 400 is absolutely criminal. It's a one man batting effort, Babar hasn't put in his shift at all.
 
msb314 said:
Once we conceded 400 it was never about NRR any longer.

As I said earlier - we need a miracle to chase this in 50 overs let alone 35 LMAO 🤣

Get the win and move on to the final round of games..
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IF Fakhar continues batting like this, we will chase 400 in 40/45 overs.
 
Meanwhile in match of aus vs eng....wotta catch by Jonny Bairstow off Stoinis...a top 10'ner surely
 
IF the game doesn't start again, we win on D/L....but how is the nrr affected then? Maybe it's our advantage due to the good fast start we made in the 1st 20 overs?
 
Jonty said:
So I guess best result here is for the rain to continue. NRR doesn’t matter here. Take the 2 points and hope SL can pull a miracle
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NRR will matter - if SRL indeed pulls the miracle, then PAK will need to beat Poms inside 30 overs or by 100+ margin and hope SRL does damage to NZ RR as well. The best way to make up NRR is in the head to head because that’s double cut.
 
msb314 said:
Once we conceded 400 it was never about NRR any longer.

As I said earlier - we need a miracle to chase this in 50 overs let alone 35 LMAO 🤣

Get the win and move on to the final round of games..
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Yeah, people talking about NRR are seriously deluded

Chasing 400 is ridiculously difficult and unlikely let alone trying to chase it in a way to significantly impact NRR

I'd be delighted for it to just keep raining, take the 2 points and see what the next set of games bring
 
t_kaay said:
IF the game doesn't start again, we win on D/L....but how is the nrr affected then? Maybe it's our advantage due to the good fast start we made in the 1st 20 overs?
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Pakistan will have very slight improvement of nrr
 
MMHS said:
NRR will matter - if SRL indeed pulls the miracle, then PAK will need to beat Poms inside 30 overs or by 100+ margin and hope SRL does damage to NZ RR as well. The best way to make up NRR is in the head to head because that’s double cut.
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NRR won't matter if NZ loses against Pak and SL.

PAK will just need to beat England and will go through on points.
 
Geordie Ahmed said:
Yeah, people talking about NRR are seriously deluded

Chasing 400 is ridiculously difficult and unlikely let alone trying to chase it in a way to significantly impact NRR

I'd be delighted for it to just keep raining, take the 2 points and see what the next set of games bring
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Wow man not seen you in years
 
t_kaay said:
IF the game doesn't start again, we win on D/L....but how is the nrr affected then? Maybe it's our advantage due to the good fast start we made in the 1st 20 overs?
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Think we will actually get negative nrr even if we win on drl. 160/21 < 401/50 .

Someone correct me if this is wrong.
 
t_kaay said:
IF the game doesn't start again, we win on D/L....but how is the nrr affected then? Maybe it's our advantage due to the good fast start we made in the 1st 20 overs?
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If no more play, PCT NRR will fall.
8/over was scored against PCT and they scored at 7.5.
 
mominsaigol said:
You don't get it. Fakhar and saim were playing in the same game yet babar still forced himself and rizwan to play at opening.

And wdym no one will say, I just had a poster telling me rizwan > fakhar in opening 💀.

Babar and rizwan will go down as the biggest frauds in Pakistan history.

On paper statically rizwan is the best wk bat for pak and Babar is the best batsmen Pakistan has ever produced

But if our legends did that they'd all be > Babar and rizzu, cause any idiot can nudge and nudge and stat pad that way by playing risk free.

Babar and rizwan and imam, These 3 play for themselves, not the team. If Babar and rizwan played for the team, They'd instantly move down the order cause they know full well fakhar and saim are the men who can actually give the starts. It's better to have 2 anchored at 3 and 4 in t20 incase of a collapse at opening.

Not have a god damn anchorer in t20 opening to kill the rr.

And Babar and rizwan aren't stupid they know this full well but refuse to depart for milestones
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Lol why are you so against rizwan.. and how is rizwan responsible for fakhar bad form? After scoring 91 vs Australia he played another 18 games at opening and his highest score is 36 (that's the only time he cross 30 btw).. don't you think that warrent an action?
 
Ofcourse this match isn't about nrr anymore but chasing 400 requires batting at high sr. Fakhar has done all the hard work and babar has just refused to put in his weight. Pathetic batting by babar.
 
I believe they can use artificial light for day games as well …
 
MMHS said:
NRR will matter - if SRL indeed pulls the miracle, then PAK will need to beat Poms inside 30 overs or by 100+ margin and hope SRL does damage to NZ RR as well. The best way to make up NRR is in the head to head because that’s double cut.
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I’m sure if pak wins this and beats England and if New Zealand also lose to Sri Lanka then we are through
 
Geordie Ahmed said:
Just busy and this place is too active to keep up regularly

Though need to be more active when talking about football
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@Geordie Ahmed good to see you posting. Hope all is well. Who would have thought 10 years ago, one day Newcastle would be one of the top 4 clubs in PL, with plenty of funds to invest. Delighted for ya.
 
MMHS said:
My friend - no way you can convince me that Rizwan at 4 is costing PAK …. Even in this WC, so far he has played the most clutch innings. We have seen many blasts - most of those batting first and no one yet has finished a big chase, let alone 344 being not out. Yes, SRL bowling isn’t great, but he came at 60/2 or so.

As I said, if required find a new WK and play Riz as specialist No. 4, but till 2027, there is no one better at 4 in PAK ….. and trust me, I do follow PAK domestics.

And, to think that alternative is Sarfraz …… blasphemous…..
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Who mentioned sarfraz? When did I mention sarfraz?

Keep sticking to that one game he played and again have amnesia over the next 4 consequective games he failed to perform in against semindecent attacks.

This is the issue with such medicore players.

Shehzad was the same, he consistently failed in many many games but after playing 100 games the one game he performs in which is the Bangladesh Asia cup semi final along with fawad alam, all sons are forgiven.

If you give someone 100+ games they'll eventually perform in one or 2, like nasir jamshed against 2012 India.

Rizwan has 100x more match losing innings then his winning ones.

He cost us aus semi final by taking 10 overs to get a meager 60, had he batted faster we'd win, its his fault we are 30 runs short.

He cost us the final against Sri Lanka by playing 55 of 49 and forcing every one else to bat at 9 an over when the atarget was only 159.

He failed an entire 2022 t20 wc.

He failed 4x in a row in this cup alone. On what basis is he replacing fakhar as a t20 opener besides glorified stat padding.

The guy bullies minnows and after playing 75+ games against quality attacks he has one good innings in 2021 against India and one good innings in 2023 against Sri Lanka.?

So? Shehzad, Yk in odi and other past failures had occasional wins due to playing that many games.

Look at fakhar, sure he fails and doesn't perform, but when he does, Pakistan either win, or get very very close such as his 194 against sa. When rizwan performs we still lose 90% of the time minus 3 exceptions on his 8 year career atm which are India and Sri lanka and new Zealand.
 
To all those criticising Babar's decision to field - now will you step up one by one and acknowledge it was the right call.

Whenever there is a chance of rain, you generally want to chase so you're ahead of the rate.

You know who you are. Step up and admit you were wrong.
 
Smbhayi said:
Lol why are you so against rizwan.. and how is rizwan responsible for fakhar bad form? After scoring 91 vs Australia he played another 18 games at opening and his highest score is 36 (that's the only time he cross 30 btw).. don't you think that warrent an action?
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Don't you think rizwan failing an entire t20 2022 world cup warrants an action?

Don't you think rizwan coating us a semi final and final warrants an action? Rizzu, Babar and imam are the first players I've seen who coat us games when they perform.

Others players coat games when they don't perform, if babar, rizzu and imam, we win games if they don't perform lol
 
Geordie Ahmed said:
Yeah, people talking about NRR are seriously deluded

Chasing 400 is ridiculously difficult and unlikely let alone trying to chase it in a way to significantly impact NRR

I'd be delighted for it to just keep raining, take the 2 points and see what the next set of games bring
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Yeah the NRR conversation with NZ is surely over. Would still like to know what the maths are though to leapfrog them as impossible as that is.
 
All Pakistani batsmen should go hard here.
 
had pak picked up its brain and wo. against afghanistan we would be in much better position hope babar is sacked not just from captaincy but from team as well he has.no clue on modern day batting he is poor man’s kane williamson
 
I think shortened game will benefit NZ more than Pakistan. Pakistanis are not the brightest going around. A shortened game will create panic where the batters would believe they need to smash everything. In the process they will collapse.

Full 50 overs allows them 3-4 overs of settling in before launching. Not easy to tee off right from ball 1.
 
Buffet said:
All Pakistani batsmen should go hard here.
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NZ bowling has no answer. THey have one of the worst bowling unit for this pitch. Santner was their only hope. Fakhar neutralized him. They kept getting away with weak bowling unit early on. Moment they faced tougher side it was exposed big time.
 
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