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ICC World Cup 2023: Pakistan (200/1) keep their hopes of a Semi-Final berth alive with a 21 runs DLS win over New Zealand (401/6)

bones said:
To all those criticising Babar's decision to field - now will you step up one by one and acknowledge it was the right call.

Whenever there is a chance of rain, you generally want to chase so you're ahead of the rate.

You know who you are. Step up and admit you were wrong.
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good point. as an indian i feel sometimes Babar gets unfair criticism, decent bloke ....wonderful to watch - easy on the eye...leave him alone - he is awesome
 
Smbhayi said:
Lol why are you so against rizwan.. and how is rizwan responsible for fakhar bad form? After scoring 91 vs Australia he played another 18 games at opening and his highest score is 36 (that's the only time he cross 30 btw).. don't you think that warrent an action?
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Rizwan stole his mobile. In reality Rizwan has been playing well this year so it does not go in line with his narrative about Rizwan performances.
 
CrIc_Mystique said:
at least it has been cheered, and you are in stadium.
if pak media was to be believed, pak was playing onthe dark side of the moon and all the cheers were reserved for the opposition...:)
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That level of hostility is only when PAK plays IND in IND.

Today , the most hostile chant I heard was the crowd chanting 'Kohli, Kohli" at Rauf when he was running in to try and unsettle him I guess , lol.

Apart from that the crowd was not hostile at all.
 
bones said:
To all those criticising Babar's decision to field - now will you step up one by one and acknowledge it was the right call.

Whenever there is a chance of rain, you generally want to chase so you're ahead of the rate.

You know who you are. Step up and admit you were wrong.
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Can’t lie I laughed when I saw we won the toss and got slapped up for 400 but if Pakistan win this game even through DLS I will hold my hands up and say he was spot on. Humility is really important for fans to have and many are ready to lay their frustrations heavy (mostly justified) but very few have it in them to put their hands up and say they had it wrong.
 
mominsaigol said:
Who mentioned sarfraz? When did I mention sarfraz?

Keep sticking to that one game he played and again have amnesia over the next 4 consequective games he failed to perform in against semindecent attacks.

This is the issue with such medicore players.

Shehzad was the same, he consistently failed in many many games but after playing 100 games the one game he performs in which is the Bangladesh Asia cup semi final along with fawad alam, all sons are forgiven.

If you give someone 100+ games they'll eventually perform in one or 2, like nasir jamshed against 2012 India.

Rizwan has 100x more match losing innings then his winning ones.

He cost us aus semi final by taking 10 overs to get a meager 60, had he batted faster we'd win, its his fault we are 30 runs short.

He cost us the final against Sri Lanka by playing 55 of 49 and forcing every one else to bat at 9 an over when the atarget was only 159.

He failed an entire 2022 t20 wc.

He failed 4x in a row in this cup alone. On what basis is he replacing fakhar as a t20 opener besides glorified stat padding.

The guy bullies minnows and after playing 75+ games against quality attacks he has one good innings in 2021 against India and one good innings in 2023 against Sri Lanka.?

So? Shehzad, Yk in odi and other past failures had occasional wins due to playing that many games.

Look at fakhar, sure he fails and doesn't perform, but when he does, Pakistan either win, or get very very close such as his 194 against sa. When rizwan performs we still lose 90% of the time minus 3 exceptions on his 8 year career atm which are India and Sri lanka and new Zealand.
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Bro, don’t have the time to search - from memory, I can recall Riz winning at least 5-6 games for PAK including that 151/0 …. Not sure who else has done more in last 3/4 years.
 
Forecast is no good. Even if it starts, it will stop again. Need to stay ahead of DL, that's it.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
That level of hostility is only when PAK plays IND in IND.

Today , the most hostile chant I heard was the crowd chanting 'Kohli, Kohli" at Rauf when he was running in to try and unsettle him I guess , lol.

Apart from that the crowd was not hostile at all.
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I wish Pak media and the life members of the 'lets bait india for all that is wrong with the world' brigade and several on this forum would read your post and do some self introspection
 
If we get back on we need to keep going hard to stay above DLS, in the likely case that rain comes again.

Forget 400, it's purely an over by over game now, scoring enough to stay ahead.
 
How can a day game become a day night game?

That is seriously messed up by ICC.
 
Rohit Sharma and Warner have most sixes in this WC, both at 20 from 7 games. Fakhar is playing his third game and have already 16 sixes. Can see him go pass them both today IA.
 
MMHS said:
Bro, don’t have the time to search - from memory, I can recall Riz winning at least 5-6 games for PAK including that 151/0 …. Not sure who else has done more in last 3/4 years.
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I have searched. Rizwan's 200 changes are against minnows.

His no of game costs whole performing is higher then game wins while performing. Same for Babar whereas fakhar when performance has a near perfect record only tarnished by one loss against sa which was extremely close.

Fakhar has done the most for Pakistan in the last 3/4 years. Not rizwan. In terms of test statistics, Saud and Abdullah have done the most in that format.

And in terms of all format batting, As much as I hate Babar, he's done the most stats wise.

Rizzu doesn't fit any category.
 
Theo_14 said:
@Geordie Ahmed good to see you posting. Hope all is well. Who would have thought 10 years ago, one day Newcastle would be one of the top 4 clubs in PL, with plenty of funds to invest. Delighted for ya.
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Indeed, going well for us and more importantly as a fanbase we have hope

Just need Pakistan to not be useless now :ROFLMAO:
 
ExpressPacer said:
So you also call Jazba “Jajba”?
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nope- and neither do majority of indians...besides - you missed the point entirely of sehwag praising one of your own....but then it is a sawaal of narrative...that you guys are hard wired with...cheers champ - a lot of us are enjoying the game and appreciating brilliance when we see it ....a pity your lenses are so clouded wth what your media drums you with
 
Wow just checked we are chasing 400 and captain dosti yaari isn't even batting at 100 SR after playing 50 balls.


Have we ever produced a more overhyped player? King of useless runs.
 
Confusion between groundstaff and officials
Groundstaff says cut off time is 7pm official says 7.40pm
 
bones said:
To all those criticising Babar's decision to field - now will you step up one by one and acknowledge it was the right call.

Whenever there is a chance of rain, you generally want to chase so you're ahead of the rate.

You know who you are. Step up and admit you were wrong.
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Doesnt apply to me as I didnt know who won the toss.

But hindsight is a great thing.
 
Geordie Ahmed said:
Indeed, going well for us and more importantly as a fanbase we have hope

Just need Pakistan to not be useless now :ROFLMAO:
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After Leeds defeating Foxes yesterday and with a Pakistan win today, this will be a very pleasing weekend.
 
No play would suit PCT. Any revised target will be roughly at 10/Over.

And NZ-SL will be at same venue with same, or worse, forecast.
 
FollowThru said:
No play would suit PCT. Any revised target will be roughly at 10/Over.

And NZ-SL will be at same venue with same, or worse, forecast.
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10 rpo with 9 wickets in hand for say 10 overs is easily doable.
 
1992 vibes here... Pakistan getting benefitted by rain and making shortcut entry to semifinals and then eventually.....?
 
heddie19 said:
These unaware ppl call themselves cricket fan. lol
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You're not a fan either?

I've noticed you dissappear when Babar is failing but will conveniently show up when he reaches a milestone.

It's disgusting that you're go go ga ga over babar so called 400 run chase anchoring but haven't once mentioned fakhar in the same light.

I told you multiple times, As virender sehwag said, fakhar zaman is the best Pakistani batsmen since 2017, not babar.
 
mominsaigol said:
You're not a fan either?

I've noticed you dissappear when Babar is failing but will conveniently show up when he reaches a milestone.

It's disgusting that you're go go ga ga over babar so called 400 run chase anchoring but haven't once mentioned fakhar in the same light.

I told you multiple times, As virender sehwag said, fakhar zaman is the best Pakistani batsmen since 2017, not babar.
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Did Sehwag mention the format? :D
 
Covers are off. If we start in half hour approx how many overs lost?
 
ExpressPacer said:
I literally don’t understand the problem Indian have with pronouncing “Z”. Is it some sort of washed up attempt to butcher Urdu words so you can pretend you’re speaking in Hindi?
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Off topic but because you asked - It’s possibly (not sure) more of a colloquial thing; probably local dialects influencing pronunciation.

A problem with pronouncing ‘Z’ isn’t an issue as far as I know. Neither is it an attempt to mangle Urdu words. As I said possibly the influence of local dialects.

Urdu language is remains an important part of our culture, but more as a high language with words intermingling with Hindi. Most people don’t speak it in their daily lives.
 
It will be a straight up T20 shoot out with 9 wickets in hand and a slippery ball.
 
There will be an inspection at 6pm local time - so in ten minutes from now.
 
All of the sudden we might see ball doing some strange things, so typical after a rain break
 
Horrible bowling performance from Pakistan.

Brilliant batting from Fakhar, what a player he has been for us.
 
New Zealand bowling three spinners only one of them being main line . Bring Saud in next!
 
heddie19 said:
Did Sehwag mention the format? :D
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He clearly mentioned odi lol.

First of in test babar frequently gets embrassed by saud and Abdullah.

In odi he's an embrassment if he plays against even semi decent attacks. His game against afg was a comedy and a tragedy cause he's the biggest bunny of spin. Dudes lucky you have sodhi bowling and fakhar took all spin pressure off.

In t20, he's obv gonna outscore everyone, he's a god damn opener 😭😭. And even then he vanished for an entire world cup cause no more c string bowling lol.
 
mominsaigol said:
I have searched. Rizwan's 200 changes are against minnows.

His no of game costs whole performing is higher then game wins while performing. Same for Babar whereas fakhar when performance has a near perfect record only tarnished by one loss against sa which was extremely close.

Fakhar has done the most for Pakistan in the last 3/4 years. Not rizwan. In terms of test statistics, Saud and Abdullah have done the most in that format.

And in terms of all format batting, As much as I hate Babar, he's done the most stats wise.

Rizzu doesn't fit any category.
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Out side minnows, who else has plucked trees for PAK in last 4-5 years?

FZ has played two blinders this WC, but before that in last one year I can recall much of him…. Probably Kiwi reserves.

Innings building at #4 is a different skill, if you think that these PSL groomed T20 players will come & replace someone batting at 50/90 stats in middle order…. That too against non-minnows, can’t convince you. We have to agree to disagree here.

Guy has other issues - foppish character, doesn’t have a sense of what is appropriate & what not in a cricket field, has a tendency to self boasting & stealing credit, a bit loyalist & has his favourites- for that, he is a disaster as Captain. But as a player, he is the mvp of PAK white ball game - he is an all rounder actually for that he handles two roles.

Ok, if not him - who’ll keep for PAK? Surely if he is playing, hd should bat at 4 as he’ll be useless at 6/7 & doesn’t need to be in top 3. So, who you think should be the white ball WK & then we can find his batting position compared to MR.
 
Cryin Out Loud said:
Off topic but because you asked - It’s possibly (not sure) more of a colloquial thing; probably local dialects influencing pronunciation.

A problem with pronouncing ‘Z’ isn’t an issue as far as I know. Neither is it an attempt to mangle Urdu words. As I said possibly the influence of local dialects.

Urdu language is remains an important part of our culture, but more as a high language with words intermingling with Hindi. Most people don’t speak it in their daily lives.
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I see. Thanks for that explanation.

I know that there is a movement in India to subjugate Urdu. I don’t know whether it is popular but I know it certainly exists. For instance, they target Bollywood as being “Urduwood” because of Bollywoods use of Urdu over Hindi. I assumed that this use of J over Z was because of that movement.

Nevertheless, I understand that different people in different parts will pronounce words in different ways.
 
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