ICC World Cup 2023: South Africa (311/7) inflict a massive 134-run defeat over Australia (177 all out)

[gazza619]

Aussies chasing this the Pakistan way. Who would have thought

 

[jnaveen1980]

Warner should still look for singles though. He is kinda stuck.

 

[Devadwal]

Yes, it will swing more in under lights but for short period of time.

That's is enough for any quality bowlers to get 1 or two wickets upfront

 

[jnaveen1980]

Boult in some places will be deadly.

 

[VForVendetta]

This is the problem with bowling captains. Only one great bowling captain existed and it was imran khan.

Kapil, Akram, Walsh, Vettori were all very good captains.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Aussies chasing this the Pakistan way. Who would have thought

I don't think they will take that long. Probably 5 or 6 overs. Marsh will still back himself to go after the bowling when there is something on offer.

 

[Aseem_Khan]

Marsh is Hack

 

[soso_killer]

This is the weakest SA fast bowling I have ever witnessesed in a tournament. It's shocking, as we were always used to seeing domination from SA fast bowlers. Not a single one of this guy gives me any hope. Nortje will be sorely missed. Rabada himself has probably forgotten when was the last time he used be a deadly loi bowler, Lungi is a pure trundler in such conditions. On top of that Bavuma either took inspiration from Imam or dreamt about Gavaskar/Boycott & played a tuktuk masterclass which caused SA those 20 runs you mentioned. I would say it's Australia's match to lose.

"Weakest I've ever seen" seems to be the buzzwords going around on here. As for Bavuma, he's the reason we're in this world cup in the first place.

Ultimately it's not Bavuma that cost us the 20 runs as the wicket was nipping about, two paced and turning. Don't let how QdK played fool you, he's the kind of player that can take the pitch out of the equation, there's very few of those players going around.

Therefore Bavuma did his job and hung around to minimize the chance of a collapse. We were 240/3 or so after 43 overs after all. I'm not going to blame the middle order either but give credit to Australia with how they bowled at the death (which was to be expected).

 

[jnaveen1980]

What a peach.

 

[Nado_]

This Jansen has got some skills I can’t lie

 

[jnaveen1980]

Still banana swing on offer. Jansen is exploiting. SA should bowl him for 5 overs or until he is tired.

 

[Asad T]

This Jansen has got some skills I can’t lie

Yes, he is 6 foot 9. quick, and most importantly, he can swing it both ways

 

[Devadwal]

South Africa at WC23 so far: No fifties, four hundreds, no scores of 110 or more

 

[jnaveen1980]

No timing whatsoever. Ball was just pinging from the bat of QDK

 

[jnaveen1980]

Ngidi has definitely has some gas in this match. Putting in a lot of effort.

 

[Devadwal]

Very good bowling so far ,need one wicket to control things

 

[Savak]

Wicket looks slow, two paced now. Ball is not coming on to the bat. Chasing 300 plus will be difficult here

 

[tauseef_mahmood]

If Aus loses today, who willing they will be to thrash Pak team? though, I think they can chase this.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Very high class bowling. Good speeds. Movement. bounce.

 

[Devadwal]

Excellent bowling by South Africa .

 

[GLORY OF '92]

Top bowling this. If only SA could sort out the choking they'd be joint favs with India

 

[Devadwal]

Boundry on no ball ,now free hit time .this delivery release all the pressure

 

[soso_killer]

The younger generation of cricket fans sees a platform laid and assume a competitive total has to be 350+. It's much more nuanced than that. The wicket AND quality of the bowling attack must always be taken into account.

Yes, an argument can still be made that South Africa is still 20 runs short. These two arguments shouldn't be mutually exclusive. But I'd rather have a competitive total on the board with a platform laid for the middle/lower order to launch.

I mean when was the last time South Africa posted a competitive total against a good side in a WC (especially with a good bowling attack)?

 

[Aseem_Khan]

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[tauseef_mahmood]

Top bowling this. If only SA could sort out the choking they'd be joint favs with India

No, India are not favourites.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Hard part is sustaining this. Warner is master of seeing off tough phases in a scratchy way

 

[soso_killer]

Rabada and Jansen should have share the new Ball .

Rabada has been awful for a while

 

[Devadwal]

Gone, South Africa earn this wicket by great bowling .love this team

 

[jnaveen1980]

Stupid Marsh

 

[soso_killer]

When did Ngidi become a fast bowler. 144 kph. Both of them are cranking it up.

Since ever?

 

[GLORY OF '92]

No, India are not favourites.

Ko jee

 

[VForVendetta]

"Weakest I've ever seen" seems to be the buzzwords going around on here. As for Bavuma, he's the reason we're in this world cup in the first place.

Ultimately it's not Bavuma that cost us the 20 runs as the wicket was nipping about, two paced and turning. Don't let how QdK played fool you, he's the kind of player that can take the pitch out of the equation, there's very few of those players going around.

Therefore Bavuma did his job and hung around to minimize the chance of a collapse. We were 240/3 or so after 43 overs after all. I'm not going to blame the middle order either but give credit to Australia with how they bowled at the death (which was to be expected).

The reason almost nobody rates this attack highly is because no one inspires any assurance to win a big match. I don't get any confidence from these guys that Donald, Pollock, Ntini, Steyn, Morkel used to provide. They have been really poor for quite some time in tournaments even though generally they are good in bilaterals.
Bavuma will struggle in almost all of the big five matches, you will disagree certainly which is understandable. But he has a certain ceiling & he can't go beyond that.
Ultimately these boys can prove your faith right by knocking the Aussies away.

 

[King_Babar]

SA bowling is most underrated one in this WC.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Everyone

Since ever?

Most of the time i have seen him he was bowling only at 125 to 135.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Delhi ground was too small and made SA bowling look bad. Also Kusal mendis was in the zone.

 

[Asad T]

Australia lose their 1st wicket, Marsh out for 7(15)
Australia are 27/1 after 5.5. overs
The required run rate is 6.45

The ball is still moving but with dew kicking in soon, you would think the pitch should get easier as the night progresses.

 

[Devadwal]

This is really good pitch which initially I thought it was a patta

 

[jnaveen1980]

This match will throw teams into confusion now. Bat first or field first. Until now field first is the favored call.

 

[jnaveen1980]

This is really good pitch which initially I thought it was a patta

May be it was a case of local boy QDK throwing Australia off their plans.

 

[Nado_]

South Africa are not messing about !

 

[tauseef_mahmood]

Ko jee

Bas meri Marzi

 

[sindhiboy]

This is really good pitch which initially I thought it was a patta

its a slowish pitch with variable bounce, south africa made an above par total.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Can Smith produce an innings of life time here?

 

[tauseef_mahmood]

Can Smith produce an innings of life time here?

He will have to Warner is gone

 

[Devadwal]

Warner gone so is Australia hope .

 

[Amjid Javed]

This Aussie team looks so poor

 

[kron]

Great bowling by ngidi. He upped his pace for sure.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Australia is stupid to lose wickets now. Dew will come by 20th or 25th over. Just stay there take it deep. Maxwell, Stoinis are there to come.

 

[Devadwal]

Very impressive bowling by Ngidi. I know Jansen is quality Bowler but don't have same thought about Ngidi

 

[Swashbuckler]

This is a 250-260 pitch, like Chennai. Aussies dropping half a dozen catches, has it happened before?

 

[kron]

This Aussie team looks so poor

It's not over until its over with Aussies though.

Last 8 times since 2019 when Aussies chased 300 plus scores, they only won once. So ominous signs.

 

[kron]

This is a 250-260 pitch, like Chennai. Aussies dropping half a dozen catches, has it happened before?

Yea 280 290 aus could have restricted SA to

 

[jnaveen1980]

Australia will have to contend with Shamsi and Maharaja as well now. It is not hard to go after wristies and finger spinners with asking rate against you.

 

[Nado_]

Delhi ground was too small and made SA bowling look bad. Also Kusal mendis was in the zone.

Their lines were all over the place , feeding him leg side gifts but today they are bang on the money

 

[GLORY OF '92]

Australia look poor weirdly.

Only maxwell and muscle man can win this now

 

[Syed1]

Cannot remember the last time Aussies sent over such a weak side to a WC. I've been watching WC cricket since 96 and this team seems the weakest since then

 

[jnaveen1980]

They should have played like Test match for 10 overs. This pitch is not like Delhi pitch or Hyderabad pitch where batting got better and better.

 

[soso_killer]

Everyone


Most of the time i have seen him he was bowling only at 125 to 135.

At the begging of his career he was bowling at 142-145+. Back issues then slowed him down (NOT to 125kph though). But ever since he's lost weight he has been cranking it up again. The COVID pandemic did him a world of good. Worked on his diet and fitness gradually.

NB. He was never out of shape (or fat), his natural weight was too much for his body to handle. (Think of Ruben Loftus Cheek at Chelsea. He also had to tone down to maintain fitness levels)

 

[jnaveen1980]

Look at the bounce he is getting. it is almost like Newlands with spice

 

[VForVendetta]

Game over probably for Aussies unless Smith pulls off a typical clutch knock only he can pull off or Maxwell goes completely berserk. Very very impressed by Lungi, he has seriously upped the ante, always great to see a SA pacer running hard & bowling 90+ mph. This could be the beginning of an exceptional run in the tournament for the proteas.

 

[Nado_]

Cannot remember the last time Aussies sent over such a weak side to a WC. I've been watching WC cricket since 96 and this team seems the weakest since then

I think their side is ok they been giving the opposition too many dropped catches .

 

[jnaveen1980]

Wankhede/ Bengaluru/ Delhi are harder to defend. Even at Hyderbad good bowling attacks can defend on the large ground.

 

[Visaal-E-Yaar]

Aus looks in hurry they need to take the game deep into 49th over

 

[Savak]

David Warner is so shockingly bad and past it. I am surprised that Cricket Australia did not take the call to move on from him.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Game over probably for Aussies unless Smith pulls off a typical clutch knock only he can pull off or Maxwell goes completely berserk. Very very impressed by Lungi, he has seriously upped the ante, always great to see a SA pacer running hard & bowling 90+ mph. This could be the beginning of an exceptional run in the tournament for the proteas.

They have to drag it to 20th to 25th over without any more damage at acceptable rate. Then dew will come. They have break it down into 30 overs + 20 overs. Stoinis on a good day can be lethal in the back end. He can manage 10-12 asknig rate easily.

 

[soso_killer]

Those who were moaning about Bavuma should take note, Marsh and Warner scored 20(42). This is a difficult wicket upfront. Spinners will decide this game one way or another

 

[jnaveen1980]

David Warner is so shockingly bad and past it. I am surprised that Cricket Australia did not take the call to move on from him.

Funny thing is he is their most inform batsman besides Warner in current set up. They also rarely play full strength side in bilateral. So their roles get muddled at some times.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Chasing 300 plus against good bowling is still difficult.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Not a single batsmen could time against Ngidi. 5th over 1 for 6

 

[jnaveen1980]

Now 117 kph. Thsi is going to be a nightmare of a chase for Australia. Australia simply could not disturb their bowling much like Kusal Mendis ddid albeit he played on a belter.

 

[Visaal-E-Yaar]

Aus is in same scenario in which pakistan was in vs sl chase.

 

[jnaveen1980]

That was a terrible ball from Ngidi. Smith is keeping it down like in tests Those balls went for six otehr day from Mendis.

 

[7sins]

Jansen very frustrating bowler gets regular wickets but at the end always ends up over 70 runs

 

[Devadwal]

Aus is in same scenario in which pakistan was in vs sl chase.

There is huge difference in condition and quality of attack and it's not even close

 

[jnaveen1980]

Aus is in same scenario in which pakistan was in vs sl chase.

But this is a seasoned by bowling line up. Srilankan average age of bowling unit is 21 or something. Very inexperienced. They will easily wilt under pressure.

 

[VForVendetta]

Cannot remember the last time Aussies sent over such a weak side to a WC. I've been watching WC cricket since 96 and this team seems the weakest since then

I wouldn't say they are weak, more like undercooked. Because their captain himself is undercooked, on top of that they hilariously replaced a genuine spinner with an accumulator at best batsman. There's a bit of similarity with the 11 squad as in the legends are older, exhausted & post their prime.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Australia still should back themselves here. You just need good 10 overs of passage. Sure bowling is good. Definitely you can rattle SA at some point.

 

[soso_killer]

We'll need someone to match Maxwell's bowling figures, be it a spinner or seamer. Ngidi went for 9 in his first 5, hopefully he doesn't tail off. If he finishes with 1/45 he would have done well. Hopefully Maharaj has a good game too

 

[Devadwal]

Why is cricbuzz and start sports showing that Ngidi is bowling but here rabada is bowling

 

[jnaveen1980]

Smith has the license to go at his own tempo for a while. Once he is set he can go big.