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ICC World Cup 2023: This is already a great World Cup and could be the GOAT of all World Cups!

Lol no match so far rain affected . How many game were washout or rain shortened in England 2019 world cup?
 
The Cricket World Cup 2019, with three rained out matches within a week, already has the most number of no result/abandoned games since the tournament started in 1975. Just in a week forget about full world cup .
 
If Netherlands win today, this World Cup will be in reckoning for the greatest ever.
 
Wow Netherlands are giving taught time to South Africa only can happen in India ( ODI)
What a Amazing cricket in this world cup . Pitch were superb
 
Southern Afrikaan six down.

They will be the eventual winners so what a performance this by the oranges.
 
Any team can beat any one in this World Cup.

No one is safe.

I repeat, no one is safe.

This World Cup semis fight will go down to the last few matches.
 
There is actually a good balance between bat and ball comparatively which is being exploited by everyone.

Way better than 2015 for now.
 
JaDed said:
There is actually a good balance between bat and ball comparatively which is being exploited by everyone.

Way better than 2015 for now.
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Not sure, if there is a good balance because we haven't seen a team defended a small total successfully. Pitches are offering support for the batsmen and the spin bowlers but there is very little help for the fast bowlers.
 
hassan918 said:
Not sure, if there is a good balance because we haven't seen a team defended a small total successfully. Pitches are offering support for the batsmen and the spin bowlers but there is very little help for the fast bowlers.
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and yet 4 out of top 5 bowlers are fast bowlers. Santner is topping only due to his fifer against NED
 
So far from what I've seen of the world cup is that it's moderate. Bar India games, most of the other games are failing to generate quality atmosphere.

For me it's not a patch on 92, 96, 99, and 2019 world cups
 
aboveandbeyond said:
So far from what I've seen of the world cup is that it's moderate. Bar India games, most of the other games are failing to generate quality atmosphere.

For me it's not a patch on 92, 96, 99, and 2019 world cups
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96 few countries didnt play in Lanka, 1992, rain played a heavy role in PCt and England qualifying.
 
The best thing a out this world cup, is that its exposed the facade of accumulators and soft run scorers for good, thank god.

Bavuma, Smith, Root, Williamson, Babar

^^ All these guys being exposed and playing match losing innings through and through. 2023 wc is proving why modern day approaches that NZ, SA and India are taking are the way to go forward.

Enough of this 1990 era nonsense.
 
First time since 1992 that everyone's won at least one game in a World Cup!
Highly competitive!

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We are 3 weeks into the tournament, every team has played 4 matches already and we're not even half way through the it. It isn't just a long tournament it feels very long.

2011 was the same, 2015 was similar but because of the time difference I didn't bother watching many. 2019, was long too.

2007 was frankly the worst international tournament there's ever been for any sport ever. It was terrible.

Cricket isn't helping itself, it seems to me they want to kill the 50 over format for good with these never ending world cups. I don't disagree by the way - 2007 should have been the last 50 over WC.
 
We haven’t seen a close game yet. I hope that changes in the must win games. Atm most matches feel like a game of two halves, someone puts up a good score and the other team doesn’t come close.
 
Hard fought, game between 2 highly skilled sides after one of the biggest thrashings with SA almost dumping England out of the Cup . GOAT World Cup producing quality matches - no clear toss bias and an incredible variety of pitches and conditions :)
 
bones said:
We are 3 weeks into the tournament, every team has played 4 matches already and we're not even half way through the it. It isn't just a long tournament it feels very long.

2011 was the same, 2015 was similar but because of the time difference I didn't bother watching many. 2019, was long too.

2007 was frankly the worst international tournament there's ever been for any sport ever. It was terrible.

Cricket isn't helping itself, it seems to me they want to kill the 50 over format for good with these never ending world cups. I don't disagree by the way - 2007 should have been the last 50 over WC.
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Number of matches in each ODI Word Cup. 2023 WC will have 48 matches - joint 4th highest.

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This world cup has proved once again that this format is highly testing and competitive...
 
How is this not the GOAT World Cup ? Another quality match with the 3rd big upset and we are not even HALFWAY through.

Laughable to suggest that the dross 2019 edition was better than this.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
How is this not the GOAT World Cup ? Another quality match with the 3rd big upset and we are not even HALFWAY through.

Laughable to suggest that the dross 2019 edition was better than this.
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This is not an upset, wait and watch where Pakistan end up.
 
Imagine had Afghanistan not lost to bangladesh. 3 wins out of 5 .. they would have been in serious contention for semi finals
 
This is by far the worst world cup. Not even a single close game.

All games are one sided. This world cup has not seen one thriller game.

Pitches have been decent for some of the matches.But it seems like only one team come to compete other team completely find itself out of the contest after few overs.
 
Great to see the minnows doing so well in this WC.

Plus pitches have turned out to be very different than usual, so ‘win the toss, win the match’ has suddenly gone for a toss, which means weaker teams cannot hide behind the toss anymore. Love the unpredictability in this WC.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
How is this not the GOAT World Cup ? Another quality match with the 3rd big upset and we are not even HALFWAY through.

Laughable to suggest that the dross 2019 edition was better than this.
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I have a dirty feeling about India vs Sri Lanka :srt

The only thing going for 2019 was it featured arguably the greatest final ever.
 
Stewie said:
The greatest of all World Cup was 1999. Nothing compares in quality due to all the legends and greats of the game plus the competition and some of the most memorable games and upsets in its duration. The overall even contests between bat and ball and basically all skills equally shining (batting, fast bowling, spin bowling, fielding).. nothing since then compares personally
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Came to this thread to write exactly this. Definitely the best, marred only by the one sided final.
 
Stewie said:
The greatest of all World Cup was 1999. Nothing compares in quality due to all the legends and greats of the game plus the competition and some of the most memorable games and upsets in its duration. The overall even contests between bat and ball and basically all skills equally shining (batting, fast bowling, spin bowling, fielding).. nothing since then compares personally
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Had some great games (mostly two Aus vs SA), anything else? But it did have a dumb rule of the points carrying over. I remember India suffered because of losing to Zim.
 
Even the commies lamenting the lack of competitiveness in their tournament.

Some astonishing cricket been played, no doubt, but a GOAT WC needs GOAT games - these could be GOAT to some people. Afghanistan (for brilliant wins over England and Pakistan), Netherlands for that incredible win over SA. Indians will no doubt be enjoying the dominance but there really hasn't been any drama, any competition - largely blowouts.

Not a GOAT for me as a sensible (IMO) fan of the game, removing any loyalties to Pak.
 
Sunzi said:
Even the commies lamenting the lack of competitiveness in their tournament.

Some astonishing cricket been played, no doubt, but a GOAT WC needs GOAT games - these could be GOAT to some people. Afghanistan (for brilliant wins over England and Pakistan), Netherlands for that incredible win over SA. Indians will no doubt be enjoying the dominance but there really hasn't been any drama, any competition - largely blowouts.

Not a GOAT for me as a sensible (IMO) fan of the game, removing any loyalties to Pak.
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As a Pak fan, I think a GOAT tournament needs the "big" nations to compete and have a meaningful presence in the tournament - England and Pak have failed so far in that regard. Australia are picking up but looked scratchy prior to the match with Pak. After the partnership the rest of the line up didn't show much and 380 should have been 420, maybe more at one stage.
 
Still not a single good game. All the games are one sided.

Many pitches have been disgrace some were decent but teams are not able to compete.
Lackluster event so far.

Almost half the tournament is over not even a single close game.
 
Change the ball from 2 balls to 1 ball. Matches on these pitches would have turned lot closer (esp. India vs Australia, India vs NZ, Pak vs Afghanistan, Ned vs Srilanka...)
 
ODI cricket is slamming one slow nail after another into it's own coffin.

As far as I'm concerned the day ODI cricket is wiped off the calendar completely, the better for everyone. We'l have the shorter version that rarely disappoints and we'll still have Test cricket.
 
RamLakhan said:
Change the ball from 2 balls to 1 ball. Matches on these pitches would have turned lot closer (esp. India vs Australia, India vs NZ, Pak vs Afghanistan, Ned vs Srilanka...)
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They already tried this, what ended up happening was the art of reverse swing was almost killed and the art of bowling was almost made extinct by the endless barrage of boundaries.

Nothing can save this format, not even a close set of SFs and Finals.

This tournament is 45 days long - the worst part about it is - it feels so much longer. Every single ODI world cup I can remember dragged on and on with endless pointless matches. We're 3 weeks into this tournament and it feels like I've been watching A Sports - The Pavillion for 15 weeks.
 
viking2559 said:
Still not a single good game. All the games are one sided.

Many pitches have been disgrace some were decent but teams are not able to compete.
Lackluster event so far.

Almost half the tournament is over not even a single close game.
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The gulf between the teams is the yawning chasm, in most instances. and in some instances, the impossible happens. But true, there have not been any competitive games thus far.

maybe we will get one with south africa and australia, or india and south africa, or new zealand and pakistan.
 
Only T20s can be exciting on Indian Pitches (many IPL matches are super-exciting & close) especially when teams are evenly matched. Because playing conditions (especially 7:30pm night starts), ball, everything remains even throughout for both teams... Definitely far better than UAE pitches where we know what happened to teams batting first!

ODIs were always exciting and close in India till around 2000 with old rules (especially ball). For that matter ODIs were always great all over world including Sharjah!

So you can't blame pitches for this... Just because weather in England does some magic now and then, and change the complexion of the game doesn't mean that playing in England is great (and being unfair to some teams at the expense of making the games exciting)

We can't help the problems with ODIs with changed rules & conditions. And we can't blame the approach of batsmen & bowlers these days. The same approach has made Tests exciting todays (what about tests in olden days, they used to be boring like hell isn't it?)
 
captain.hansolo said:
The gulf between the teams is the yawning chasm, in most instances. and in some instances, the impossible happens. But true, there have not been any competitive games thus far.

maybe we will get one with south africa and australia, or india and south africa, or new zealand and pakistan.
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It's been very boring world cup so far. 24 matches are done today.

Conditions do play part as well and yeah there is a disparity between teams.

Mostly low scoring games are well competed and we haven't had seen many low scoring games in this world cup.

It's has just been an awful event.
 
Lol teams are scoring 400 for fun and then it becomes impossible for other team to chase.

It's been so so awful. 2019 was much better.
 
"Well, I had something like that light show happen at Perth Stadium during a Big Bash game," Maxwell said after his man-of-the-match knock of 106 off 44 balls in a team total of 399-8.

"And I just felt like it gave me shocking headaches and it takes me a while for my eyes to readjust and I just think it's the dumbest idea for cricketers."

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'Dumbest, Horrible Idea': Glenn Maxwell Fumes At World Cup Light Show, Says It Causes "Shocking Headaches" | Cricket News

Glenn Maxwell blasted mid-match, nightclub-style light shows at the World Cup as "the dumbest idea" on Wednesday, claiming they cause "shocking headaches".
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This has to be one of the most boring WC I have ever witnessed. I mean when you get a WC like 2019, hard to top it.
Also, there are no nailbitter matches, I can't even think about any close matches either. Most of the matches were convincing win. Even teams like BD/SL is flopping whereas in the previous WC, because of their competitive play, they made the WC exciting since it was geniuenly hard to predict even at the end of the last round robin who would make it to SEMI. This time around, with almost half the matches left for all teams, maybe 1 spot is up for grab (that too is a big maybe depending on if PAK wins all games) and rest are very easy to predict who will go through to semi.
 
Pakistan and England made it boring with their below par performance. Had it not been the case, 6 teams would have been in contention. Afghanistan can still make it interesting.
 
light said:
This has to be one of the most boring WC I have ever witnessed. I mean when you get a WC like 2019, hard to top it.
Also, there are no nailbitter matches, I can't even think about any close matches either. Most of the matches were convincing win. Even teams like BD/SL is flopping whereas in the previous WC, because of their competitive play, they made the WC exciting since it was geniuenly hard to predict even at the end of the last round robin who would make it to SEMI. This time around, with almost half the matches left for all teams, maybe 1 spot is up for grab (that too is a big maybe depending on if PAK wins all games) and rest are very easy to predict who will go through to semi.
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They took spinners out of the equation in 2019. Spinners averaged 50 plus in 2019 world cup. That was completely unfair. Here both spinners and seamers get more or less equal purpose. The tracks were ultra flat. Just that the teams were evenly matched back in 2019. In 2023 gulf is wider. You could host matches at Timbuktu result is not going to be any different. Australia got beating of their life time just before world cup in SA. Same pattern happened here. Basically teams that have all the bases covered done well. People who rely on one department like batting, pace bowling were brutally exposed.
 
adi_62941 said:
It is the most boring WC till date after 2007. No close matches and very low competition between bat and bowl. I think it is a end of ODI format starting from this WC
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Yeah man. It seems like a gully mohalla tournament. Even gully mohalla matches are more interesting than this boring event.
 
Why are we not having two matches every day. This is unnecessary making this a long World Cup. It’s not even half way yet. Getting fed up actually.
 
Bhaijaan said:
Why are we not having two matches every day. This is unnecessary making this a long World Cup. It’s not even half way yet. Getting fed up actually.
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Broadcast money money.. its not like football that you have separate viewership markets and concurrent match won't impact ad revenue
 
ODIs today are a bit like Tests from 70s to 90s. Just like in those days batsmen had no intent to attack, they were ultra-defensive, add to that most inferior hosting nations (barring WI, England, Aus) used to prepare flat pitches so that their batsmen can play on and on and result in boring draws (look at the draw percentage in those days) OR dominant teams brutally winning against inferior teams!

ODIs today is just similar to those tests (only thing is we can't have "draws" in ODIs, hence only one-sided matches are the common thing!) On the other hand, tests today have become exciting because of the same reason (batsmens' attacking mode + combination of hosting nations creating home advantage in pitches) Even though some teams (like Pakistan) prepare flat pitches for tests still they end up losing most matches due to the intensity of cricket today!

Hence ODIs will get back to its older self only if 1 ball is used per match OR at least use 1 ball till 35th over and introduce a new ball from 36th over. In this way spinners/reverse swing will come into play during 25th to 35th over (and batsmen who have skills to combat this become important, instead of slogging all the time!) and pacers will have another crack at new ball + batsman can also attack the new ball during this period!

Day matches + single red ball was the reason why ODIs were popular back in the old days because there was a contest in that game compared to tests!
 
Low scoring thriller coming up with semifinal race on the line .

Can SL cause the 4th upset of the tournament ? :srini
 
This has been a horrendously organise BCCI party BUT some of the results have been fun no doubt. Upsets by Netherlands and Afghanistan have essentially ended the tournament for anyone outside the top 4. The only doubt being if Aus lose a couple games a long the way.

I have also enjoyed that fast bowlers have done ok by being clever, crafty, bowling cutters, offies and so on. Henry has been class, Bumrah pretty good and we even got a magic spell from Shaheen.

sadly as we all expected the batters have stolen the show on largely placid wickets and scoring in excess of 300 is far too much the norm and killed much of the joy of a bowling come back.
 
To Indian posters, Pakistan is not doing well guys. So accept it, this is the most boring WC. No logical reasoning is gonna change that.
 
WengerOut said:
To Indian posters, Pakistan is not doing well guys. So accept it, this is the most boring WC. No logical reasoning is gonna change that.
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Can you tell me why this World Cup has been exciting to you? I can list at least 5 World Cups which were better than this (1992, 1996, 1999, 2011, and 2019).
 
WengerOut said:
To Indian posters, Pakistan is not doing well guys. So accept it, this is the most boring WC. No logical reasoning is gonna change that.
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Add England and certain fans for Bangladesh .
Fact is india winning all the game so far also not digest for some fan's.
 
Devadwal said:
Add England and certain fans for Bangladesh .
Fact is india winning all the game so far also not digest for some fan's.
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Bangladesh always lose badly in every WC.

I was referring to overall experience. Do you think this World Cup has been better than 1992, 1996, 1999, 2011, and 2019 ones? I don't think so.

Too many one-sided games in this World Cup. That was a turnoff.
 
sweep_shot said:
Can you tell me why this World Cup has been exciting to you? I can list at least 5 World Cups which were better than this (1992, 1996, 1999, 2011, and 2019).
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Not only this WC, for me ODIs are a mess these days. My point is, this WC is not different from 2019 WC. Only difference is the faster bowlers are travelling this time while it was the spinners last time.
 
sweep_shot said:
Bangladesh always lose badly in every WC.

I was referring to overall experience. Do you think this World Cup has been better than 1992, 1996, 1999, 2011, and 2019 ones? I don't think so.

Too many one-sided games in this World Cup. That was a turnoff.
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2019 was most pathetic I have seen where rain and flat wicket were effected most games .
 
Devadwal said:
2019 was most pathetic I have seen where rain and flat wicket were effected most games .
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2019 WC final was possibly the best World Cup match of all time.

2019 group stage matches were entertaining. There weren't many one-sided games. Also, crowds seemed more engaged.

I think 2019 WC was pretty good.
 
It’s been a pretty terrible World Cup.

The round robin style format doesn’t work. Needs to be canned. We already know the identity of the semi finalists and there’s so many games to go.

Add the bowling graveyard pitches, ridiculous dimensions and complete lack of full houses.

India have done a poor job.
 
hitthestump said:
It’s been a pretty terrible World Cup.

The round robin style format doesn’t work. Needs to be canned. We already know the identity of the semi finalists and there’s so many games to go.

Add the bowling graveyard pitches, ridiculous dimensions and complete lack of full houses.

India have done a poor job.
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I think they should make 2 groups.

Good news is they are supposed to do that for 2027 World Cup (14 teams; 2 groups). South Africa, Zimbabwe, and Namibia are the hosts.
 
sweep_shot said:
I think they should make 2 groups.

Good news is they are supposed to do that for 2027 World Cup (14 teams; 2 groups). South Africa, Zimbabwe, and Namibia are the hosts.
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That would be my preference.

2 groups of 7, top 3 go through into super sixes.

I don’t like doing a quarters as it makes the group stages too meaningless. You just have to not slip against the minnows and you’re through.
 
sweep_shot said:
2019 WC final was possibly the best World Cup match of all time.

2019 group stage matches were entertaining. There weren't many one-sided games. Also, crowds seemed more engaged.

I think 2019 WC was pretty good.
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You are talking about crowd .let's me explained you few thing .most Asian game had good crowd not becouse England fan's were there to watch the game but Desi dispora were watched the most of Asian game .
Tell me how many matches were rain effected in 2019 world cup .
Most important match were rain effected where certain team get the advantage of bowling in fresh overcast conditions .
Most ever useless world cup
 
Round Robin eliminates easy match ups for some sides. Fluke wins don't get rewarded in round Robin as much as it did in 2007 format. So many one sided games in the main round due to that. Some teams are very poor in preparation, some has adaptability issues ,some have form issues, some have bench strength issue. That is why some teams look woeful. NZ just with 3 main bowlers could win a few in India. But subcontinent sides looked inadequate. Afghanistan has done well though.
 
What if the top 4 is in this order?

India
SA
Aus
Pak

NZ have tough games coming in future.
 
Ab Fan said:
What if the top 4 is in this order?

India
SA
Aus
Pak

NZ have tough games coming in future.
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Both NZ and South Africa have tough game ahead so Australia will definitely finish at 2 or 3 but not 4 .
So it likely India vs South Africa or NZ semifinals .I don't want india to face Australia in semifinals as they are different beast .
 
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