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The American that PTI supporters approve of. The type who Khan ran to asking for help when he knew his time was up in Pakistan.Is the narrator American?
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The American that PTI supporters approve of. The type who Khan ran to asking for help when he knew his time was up in Pakistan.Is the narrator American?
Why post crap and then run. You claimed that violence was used against Noora, so tell us if there have been injuries and deaths. Do you lie as 2nd nature?Showing me up doesn’t change how Imran Khan got showed up.
I didn’t claim to make Riyasat-E-Madina
Violence was used. Throwing things at someone minding their own business is a form of violence. Just because someone isn’t physically hurt to the point that they have to be taken to a hospital doesn’t mean that they were not assaulted.Why post crap and then run. You claimed that violence was used against Noora, so tell us if there have been injuries and deaths. Do you lie as 2nd nature?
Oh I see so no one has hurt but it was violence. Why did they throw, paper planes?Violence was used. Throwing things at someone minding their own business is a form of violence. Just because someone isn’t physically hurt to the point that they have to be taken to a hospital doesn’t mean that they were not assaulted.
If it were up to those who were doing this, I’m pretty sure they would want to send her or her party members to hospital with their hatred for them.,
Oh well, doesn’t change the sad reality for them. A lifetime wasted over a person who did not come through as they would have hoped. I can understand the frustration
No I’m pretty sure they threw their toys out of the pramOh I see so no one has hurt but it was violence. Why did they throw, paper planes?![]()
I bet those hurt these criminals. Apparently they are very fragile and need protection when they get to the UK. In PK they are Apparently brave and strong with 500,000 guys with guns as protection but here they kack their pants.No I’m pretty sure they threw their toys out of the pram
Fake case called out by the useless CJP. If this guy is calling out this case, it must not have anything going for it. Remember under the watch of CJP Arshad Sharif was killed and IRK was kidnapped and nothing happenedChief Justice of Pakistan (CJP) Umar Ata Bandial on Wednesday observed that prima facie there were “mistakes” present in a trial court’s verdict convicting former prime minister Imran Khan in the Toshakhana case.
On August 5, a trial court in Islamabad found the PTI chief guilty of “corrupt practices” in a case pertaining to concealing details of state gifts and sentenced him to three years in prison. The verdict also means that he stood disqualified from contesting general elections for five years.
Subsequently, Imran approached the IHC against his conviction and sentence. A day earlier, the high court adjourned the case till tomorrow (Aug 24).
A three-member SC bench, comprising CJP Bandial, Justice Mazahar Ali Akbar Naqvi and Justice Jamal Khan Mandokhail, took up a petition filed by Imran today challenging the IHC’s order of remanding the Toshakhana case to Additional Sessions Judge (ASJ) Humayun Dilawar who convicted the former prime minister.
During the hearing, the top court heard arguments by PTI lawyer Latif Khosa and Election Commission of Pakistan’s (ECP) counsel Amjad Pervaiz.
After hearing both sides, the CJP said, “We will not interfere in the Toshakhana case today … we will look at the IHC hearing tomorrow and then resume the proceedings.”
However, the top judge observed: “Prima facie, there are mistakes in the trial court verdict.”
The hearing
At the outset of the hearing, Imran’s lawyer Latif Khosa said the PTI chief had filed three petitions against IHC orders in the apex court.
He recalled that Imran was elected as a member of the National Assembly from Mianwali during the 2018 elections. “The Election Act tells every member of the NA to submit details of their assets,” the lawyer said, adding that six MNAs had submitted a reference to the speaker seeking the PTI chief’s disqualification.
The MNAs, Khosa continued, had accused Imran of submitting an incorrect declaration of his assets. The speaker had then sent the reference to the Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) under Section 137 of the Election Act.
Here, Justice Naqvi asked the lawyer to read out the said section of the act, which pertains to the submission of a statement of assets and liabilities.
Continuing his arguments, Khosa contended that the ECP could only conduct an inquiry within 120 days.
“Can one member [of the NA] send a reference against another member?” Justice Naqvi asked, to which the lawyer replied that no one could send a reference and the ECP too could only conduct an inquiry within a fixed time.
“Action can be taken within 120 days after the submission of financial statements,” he highlighted, adding that only the NA speaker could send a reference to the ECP, not a member.
The reference against the PTI chief, Khosa continued, was sent after 120 days.
At that, Justice Mandokhel interjected that the petitioner’s case was against the IHC order and not the legality of the reference against Imran.
“Who can be remanded now that the trial court case is over?” the judge asked. “How will this case impact the main appeal against the conviction?”
In his response, Khosa said the court would have to “rewind the hands of the clock back to the previous position”.
However, the CJP remarked, “A building constructed on faulty foundation cannot be demolished every time.” He also asked if the petitioner’s argument was that the ECP’s complaint in the trial court — filed on Oct 21 — was not maintainable.
“Our stance is that the Toshakhana complaint should have first been sent to the magistrate,” Khosa pointed out.
“According to you, the magistrate conducts the initial inquiry and then the sessions court holds the trial,” the chief justice asked.
At this, Justice Mandokhel explained that the law states a magistrate would review the complaint and then send it to the sessions court. “In the law, what does the magistrate reviewing [the complaint] mean?” he asked.
For his part, Khosa said the magistrate would decide if the complaint was eligible or not.
Here, the CJP inquired who could register a complaint under the Elections Act, to which the PTI lawyer replied that the complaint could be filed by the ECP.
Khosa further lamented that the ECP secretary had asked the electoral body’s district commissioner to file the complaint against Imran.
“So you are saying that the secretary should not have been called the ECP,” the CJP said. “The sessions court should have rejected the complaint,” the top judge added.
Meanwhile, Justice Mandokhel opined that the matter could be solved during the IHC hearing on Imran’s petition against his conviction. He also asked: “What was the hurry to give the [sessions court] verdict?”
Subsequently, the CJP asked the PTI lawyer if the petitioner would raise these questions in the high court or if he wanted the SC to highlight them for the IHC.
Khosa replied that Imran’s conviction was announced by a court that did not have the jurisdiction to do so. “This matter can also be raised during the hearing of the appeal in the IHC,” the CJP noted.
At one point, when Khosa raised an objection over the IHC CJ, Justice Bandial asked him to raise an objection to verdicts and not the courts. “Criticism should only be restricted to the decisions … this is the way institutions work.”
He further maintained that no one could be accused of biasedness, asserting that the court would defend all the judges.
The court then called the ECP lawyer to the rostrum. Beginning his arguments, Pervaiz said the trial court had reserved its verdict on all objections raised by the PTI chief.
He also said that Imran had been provided all the chances to defend himself during the case proceedings.
At this, Justice Bandial asked: “Can you see the PTI chairman here? I can’t see the suspect anywhere … is the suspect here in court or is he behind bars?”
“Don’t joke like that,” an irked CJP said. “What opportunities were given to the PTI chief? The trial court, after calling the case thrice, convicted the suspect and sent him to jail … the PTI chairman was not even heard.”
Later, the top judge remarked that as a court of law, the SC didn’t want the case to be sent from one court to the other and decided to wait for the IHC hearing tomorrow. The case was subsequently adjourned till 1pm, Thursday.
DAWN
The PBC is an asset of the mafia. So the losers didn't see a problem with IKs conviction when literally everyone else.The Supreme Court (SC) reiterated its decision on Thursday to halt proceedings on a plea challenging the remand of the Toshakhana case to Additional Sessions Judge (ASJ) Humayun Dilawar — who convicted PTI chief Imran Khan in the case — until the Islamabad High Court’s (IHC) decision on another petition seeking the suspension of the former premier’s sentence.
On August 5, a trial court in Islamabad had convicted the PTI chief for “corrupt practices” in the case pertaining to concealing details of state gifts and sentenced him to three years in prison. The verdict means that he stands disqualified from contesting general elections for five years.
Imran had subsequently approached the IHC against his conviction. He had also approached the apex court against the IHC’s decision to remand the case back to the trial court judge who had convicted him.
A three-member SC bench, comprising Chief Justice of Pakistan (CJP) Umar Ata Bandial, Justice Mazahar Ali Akbar Naqvi and Justice Jamal Khan Mandokhail, had taken up the plea, with the CJP observing: “Prima facie, the decision by the additional sessions judge contains defects, but we will not intervene at this stage; rather wait for the outcome of the high court decision.”
The petitioner was behind bars since August 5 and his plea seeking suspension of the sentence was pending before the high court, therefore, “out of respect to the high court, we will wait for the decision in the matter”, the CJP said while dictating the order.
The IHC, which resumed hearing the plea for the suspension of Imran’s sentence earlier today, has adjourned the hearing until 11am on Friday (tomorrow).
The IHC and the SC were hearing the pleas submitted to them simultaneously today, with Latif Khosa appearing as Imran’s counsel before the top court.
During the hearing, the CJP observed that the IHC hearing was still under way.
“The high court is finding a solution in the matter. This is the beauty of our system.
“Let the high court’s decision come. We will hear the plea [filed in the SC] after that,” he said and adjourned the hearing until the IHC’s decision.
The SC also sought a report on the facilities being provided to Imran in jail.
During the hearing, Khosa complained about a policeman’s presence during one of his meetings with Imran in jail, at which the CJP asked him “not to say anything that is not on record”.
PBC takes issue with SC seeing ‘defects’ in Imran’s conviction
Earlier today, the Pakistan Bar Council (PBC) took issue with the apex court’s acknowledgement of “procedural defects” in the Aug 5 conviction of PTI Chairman Imran Khan, saying that there should be no “interference” in matters pending before the subordinate judiciary.
In its order issued after yesterday’s hearing, the SC noted that the trial court called the respondents (Imran Khan side) a number of times. Since neither the petitioner nor any of his authorised representatives were available, the trial court chose to commence hearing ex parte and awarded a three-year sentence to Imran.
The Sc observed that while recording his statement before the trial court under Section 342 of CrPC, Imran had expressed his intention of producing a defence witness, but the trial court on Aug 2 turned down the request, saying the witness was not relevant to the controversy.
The SC regretted that the trial court through its judgement had defied the IHC’s directions that it must first determine the question of jurisdiction as well as the maintainability of the case.
Commenting on the matter today, PBC Executive Committee Chairman Hassan Raza Pasha said that the main appeal against Imran’s conviction was not fixed before the SC.
“But yesterday’s remarks by the SC which we saw and heard, it seemed as if the whole appeal was decided, and we saw criminal jurisprudence changing,” he said.
“It seems as if there is no trust left in the honourable high court judges. They are also equally honourable and respectable judges, and are passing verdicts according to their conscience … it amounts to interference in the smooth functioning of the high court, appellate court,” Pasha said.
“What decision will the high court make?” he asked. He noted that the lawyers of a certain political party, an apparent reference to the PTI, were saying that the SC’s observations had amounted to an acquittal.
“So will it be inferred that he was acquitted due to the SC’s pressure? And if they don’t, which high court or subordinate judiciary can make a decision either way in light of these observations?” he asked.
He said that the PBC respected the SC and they did not want the court’s esteem to suffer. “There should be no interference in matters pending in the high court,” he said, adding that any interference was unfair to the other party in the case.
“We have seen that in other cases an order is issued, that we expect from the high court to decide the case in such and such manner … Yesterday, we felt that directions were given which should not happen. We, once again, say that no one should be prejudiced,” he said.
He noted that in the past the courts were called “Sharif courts”. “We don’t want the public and lawyers to call the courts by another name,” he said.
Pasha said that the judiciary should be apolitical and should function within the parameters of the law.
Responding to a question from a reporter, Pasha said that the PBC — which he termed the “highest statutory body of lawyers” — wanted the apex court’s respect and honour to remain intact.
“We think that we are also custodians of the Constitution. We talk about the Constitution so we want all matters to operate according to it,” he said.
Meanwhile, PBC Vice Chairman Haroonur Rashid said that the PTI chief had filed an appeal against his conviction in the Toshakhana case, which was still pending before the IHC.
“In that appeal, it has to be seen whether the conviction is right or wrong. That is the high court’s domain, and the SC’s observations from yesterday directly influence lower courts and high courts.”
He noted that high courts and lower courts were subordinate courts. He further said that if the two now issued a verdict according to what they deemed fit, it would seem as if they didn’t consider the apex court’s observation.
“So to give such an observation is not right, legally or ethically. Because neither an appeal nor a bail (plea) was pending before the honourable SC. The appeal and the plea will be decided by the high court.”
Rashid noted that the observations made by the SC yesterday were plastered all over the newspapers. He said that the SC had “assumed” it was hearing the appeal against the conviction.
“There is no matter pending before the honourable SC,” he said, as he also highlighted the council’s objections to SC benches. “We have said this before also that these benches are favouring a party,” he said.
DAWN
The PBC is an asset of the mafia. So the losers didn't see a problem with IKs conviction when literally everyone else.
Kaptaan doesnt need saving. It's the courts that have thrown all norms out of the window that need saving. Today they tried to murder his lawyers.Looks like the courts will save Imran Khan. What a travesty! You cannot keep hiding from your punishment for too long Khan saab
Amir Farooq is a disgrace. He could have chosen any judge to hear the case but the compromised CJ chose a compromised judge. PK courts have destroyed any faith left in them( there wasn't much faith before)Judge Humayun Dilawar who convicted Imran Khan in Toshakhana case made OSD
Additional District and Sessions Judge Humayun Dilawar, who convicted Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf Chairman and former prime minister Imran Khan and handed him down a three-year jail term in the Toshakhana case, was made an officer on special duty (OSD) on Friday.
The development came hours after Islamabad High Court (IHC) Chief Justice Aamer Farooq observed that the trial court, which sentenced the former prime minister in the Toshakhana case, "did wrong".
According to a notification issued by the Islamabad High Court additional registrar, “The honourable chief justice of this court has been pleased to make following transfer/posting of ADSJ working in the Islamabad Judicial Service, in the public interest.”
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save from who or whom?Looks like the courts will save Imran Khan. What a travesty! You cannot keep hiding from your punishment for too long Khan saab
The Islamabad High Court (IHC) on Monday said it would announce tomorrow at 11am its reserved verdict on PTI Chairman Imran Khan’s plea seeking the suspension of a three-year jail term sentenced to the ex-premier in the Toshakhana case.
The court reserved its verdict today on the PTI chief’s plea after the Election Commission of Pakistan’s (ECP) counsel concluded his arguments.
On August 5, a trial court in Islamabad had convicted the PTI chief in the case filed by the ECP that involved concealing details of state gifts and jailed him for three years. The verdict meant he was disqualified from contesting general elections for five years.
No chance they will release. Munir, like Bajwa is appointed by the mafia with big Abbu giving directions from WashingtonNow that IK got relief from higher courts let's see if rule of law will prevail or we would see another joke being unfolded.
Many were totally aware that he was not a burger class who would try to find a way to run away from Pakistan as soon as he is placed in the Jail.Imran Khan is finally getting a taste of what it takes to be a revolutionary agent of change - actual jailtime. Until now, many thought he was a burger class leader who was just calling the shots from his bani gala mansion.
Many were totally aware that he was not a burger class who would try to find a way to run away from Pakistan as soon as he is placed in the Jail.
If he was given a choice between a jailterm of 15 years and an option of leaving the country, I suspect he would leave.
Thanks Murtaza Hussain of Intercept. Really smart of you to publish the cipher to score pro PTI brownie points on social media whilst condemning IK to another case.Pakistan's jailed ex-PM Imran Khan faces charges over state secrets - source.
Pakistani authorities have opened a criminal investigation against jailed former prime minister Imran Khan on charges of leaking state secrets, after naming him and three aides in a fresh case, a top security source said on Monday.
The matter, currently under investigation, pertains to a classified cable sent to Islamabad by Pakistan's ambassador in Washington early last year, which Khan is alleged to have made public.
The 70-year-old former cricketer has accused that the cable was part of a U.S. conspiracy to push the Pakistani military to oust him in a parliamentary vote of no confidence in 2022 because he had visited Moscow ahead of Russia's attack on Ukraine.
Both Washington and the military deny this.
Khan is currently serving a three-year sentence in a graft case and has been barred from politics for five years.
Reuters
Who were these many. The fake Liberals, well they went tuss and still worshipped NS, could it be the "haters" of the establishment but they also went tuss, munafiqs like Hamid Mir and Najam Shitty are and always were paid up agents of the Generals and played a full part in regime change. So who are the many?Imran Khan is finally getting a taste of what it takes to be a revolutionary agent of change - actual jailtime. Until now, many thought he was a burger class leader who was just calling the shots from his bani gala mansion.
Not really. Murtaza has shown up the Mir Jaffars for what they are.Thanks Murtaza Hussain of Intercept. Really smart of you to publish the cipher to score pro PTI brownie points on social media whilst condemning IK to another case.
They have offered and offered but he ain't going. They want an NRO from him but he won't give it. So like a scared dog that bites, the establishment can't let go and in a total quagmire of their making.If he was given a choice between a jailterm of 15 years and an option of leaving the country, I suspect he would leave.
Time will tell. But analysis is based on history and current situation, so far it does not seem that he will. It seem the Guy care more about his legacy than expensive and comfortable bed to sleep on.If he was given a choice between a jailterm of 15 years and an option of leaving the country, I suspect he would leave.
I do not believe you understand how the independent media organization works. Intercept have built a reputation and it worth more than scoring few brownies point from PTI supporters. Let's be logical for a bit for constructive discussion.Thanks Murtaza Hussain of Intercept. Really smart of you to publish the cipher to score pro PTI brownie points on social media whilst condemning IK to another case.
Whilst adding another woe to his hero’s troubles. Real smart.Not really. Murtaza has shown up the Mir Jaffars for what they are.
They have offered and offered but he ain't going. They want an NRO from him but he won't give it. So like a scared dog that bites, the establishment can't let go and in a total quagmire of their making.
The Generals. They are desperate for a way out. He ain't compromising like NS and AZ and they are in a bind.Who specifically wants an NRO from him ? Imran was in charge for 4 years and he did nothing to prosecute his opponents for any corruption so this statement of yours makes no sense.
It's shown the nexus very clearly.Whilst adding another woe to his hero’s troubles. Real smart.
The wording of the cipher doesn’t really probe a conspiracy unless you really want to read that in. But thats another discussion. Regardless exposing the nexus isn’t going to make getting IK out of jail any easier.It's shown the nexus very clearly.
It provides proof that the Americans wanted him gone and ordered his removal. You don't go to great lengths to hide something of no value. It's called the law of common senseThe wording of the cipher doesn’t really probe a conspiracy unless you really want to read that in. But thats another discussion. Regardless exposing the nexus isn’t going to make getting IK out of jail any easier.
The US representative expressed the US's preference on a political situation. Statements and comments like this are said all the time in the world of diplomacy. Demarches are issued all the time. It doesn't prove that they hatched a conspiracy. The VONC motion was in place well before this cypher. And even IK didn't talk about the cypher until the very end to try and exploit the anti US sentiment in Pakistan in order to save his seat (as his leaked recording showed). He later couldn't make up his mind as to whether the conspiracy was imported or exported. Diplomatic communications are state secrets and therefore always subject to being hidden from the public view. This whole "conspiracy" narrative is clutching at straws in my view.It provides proof that the Americans wanted him gone and ordered his removal. You don't go to great lengths to hide something of no value. It's called the law of common sense
So it's common for countries to ask for change of govt in another country.The US representative expressed the US's preference on a political situation. Statements and comments like this are said all the time in the world of diplomacy. Demarches are issued all the time. It doesn't prove that they hatched a conspiracy. The VONC motion was in place well before this cypher. And even IK didn't talk about the cypher until the very end to try and exploit the anti US sentiment in Pakistan in order to save his seat (as his leaked recording showed). He later couldn't make up his mind as to whether the conspiracy was imported or exported. Diplomatic communications are state secrets and therefore always subject to being hidden from the public view. This whole "conspiracy" narrative is clutching at straws in my view.
The wording of the cipher doesn’t really probe a conspiracy unless you really want to read that in. But thats another discussion. Regardless exposing the nexus isn’t going to make getting IK out of jail any easier.
This is ridiculous. LolThe US representative expressed the US's preference on a political situation. Statements and comments like this are said all the time in the world of diplomacy. Demarches are issued all the time. It doesn't prove that they hatched a conspiracy. The VONC motion was in place well before this cypher. And even IK didn't talk about the cypher until the very end to try and exploit the anti US sentiment in Pakistan in order to save his seat (as his leaked recording showed). He later couldn't make up his mind as to whether the conspiracy was imported or exported. Diplomatic communications are state secrets and therefore always subject to being hidden from the public view. This whole "conspiracy" narrative is clutching at straws in my view.
They didn’t ask for a change. They simply said they would prefer to see the VONC succeed. Its like how MBS said he preferred a Trump presidency. That doesn’t mean that MBS was plotting to make Biden lose the election.So it's common for countries to ask for change of govt in another country.![]()
There is no evidence. Just conjecture and analysis at this stage. Any journalist who is pro IK will be reputable for you guys by default.This is ridiculous. Lol
So much reputable evidence exist to support over 80% Pakistani narrative but here we are at it again.
From reputable journalists to free thinker who aren’t receiving lefafa have presented countless evidence. If one were to read the language in published on intercept then there’s nothing left to refute.
Chalo ji clutch the straw
They aren't anybody, they are America and they have a long history of coups. Mussadiq, Allende and many others. Navalny gets jailed and there is outrage in the American govt, IK is jailed and its an internal matter. 10,000 PTI workers are held, not a word. This is a coup made in Washington and carried out in PKThey didn’t ask for a change. They simply said they would prefer to see the VONC succeed. Its like how MBS said he preferred a Trump presidency. That doesn’t mean that MBS was plotting to make Biden lose the election.
But you guys said that the cypher was fake, Billo said it didn't exist, Nani claimed countries won't send cyphersThere is no evidence. Just conjecture and analysis at this stage. Any journalist who is pro IK will be reputable for you guys by default.
There are a number of questions to ask and points to consider here:
1) Why was the PTI govt sitting on the cipher for 20 days before doing anything about it?
2) Why did IK change his story from “imported conspiracy” to “exported conspiracy”? Why should Bajwa need to convince the US that IK is bad for them? Are the US stupid that they need Bajwa to explain to them that IK is bad for them?
3) IK saying “is pe khelna hai abh” regarding the cypher suggests a concocted narrative.
4) Why is IK willing to let this be a bygone with the US as he said in an interview?
Frankly IK is a master narrative crafter with God gifted eloquence. No wonder everyone falls for it.
Comments sounds like I am watchin one of those pseudoliberals youtubers video.There is no evidence. Just conjecture and analysis at this stage. Any journalist who is pro IK will be reputable for you guys by default.
There are a number of questions to ask and points to consider here:
1) Why was the PTI govt sitting on the cipher for 20 days before doing anything about it?
2) Why did IK change his story from “imported conspiracy” to “exported conspiracy”? Why should Bajwa need to convince the US that IK is bad for them? Are the US stupid that they need Bajwa to explain to them that IK is bad for them?
3) IK saying “is pe khelna hai abh” regarding the cypher suggests a concocted narrative.
4) Why is IK willing to let this be a bygone with the US as he said in an interview?
Frankly IK is a master narrative crafter with God gifted eloquence. No wonder everyone falls for it.
So the Generals are in dispute with NS, and this is a warning to him. Both the Generals and NS have sleepless nights over IK and with the crooked Farooq, the Generals decide what happens with all IKs cases. There is no Justice in PKIHC fixes Imran's bail plea in cypher case on MondayHigh court to also hear PTI chief's transfer request plea from Attock to Adiala jail on same day
Express Tribune
^^ Poor guy. Jail is not a good place to be. Hope thing turn better for him.
Could not agree more a joke of a population with a only a minority of sincere people, who I feel sorry for. May God help themThe Pakistani awaam are zombies who won't stand up for themselves, leave alone for Imran Khan. The least they can do is cause some uproar, have him released and sent back to his children, but no. Crickets. Tumbleweeds.
Bangladesh rightly revolted against this very junta 50+ years ago and look at the result. They are in a better place.
Really? Well 70% of PK disagree with you.It's stunning how Khan has been wiped out from existence in the news cycle. Ruthless and clinical by the Establishment.
Imran has been neutered and excised from politics forever.
They can’t compete with him so they resort to badmashi. Fight in a fair election and we will see who has neutered who.It's stunning how Khan has been wiped out from existence in the news cycle. Ruthless and clinical by the Establishment.
Imran has been neutered and excised from politics forever.
It's stunning how Khan has been wiped out from existence in the news cycle. Ruthless and clinical by the Establishment.
Imran has been neutered and excised from politics forever.