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Imran Khan's sons pleading to USA and American public for fathers release, hypocritical?

The watches and painter decorator of bahria town are side issues.

Imrans mistake is he went head on against military wanted to appoint his own people in the military control the military and become a dictator that's where the problems started when he went rogue against the military and his soft spot for the ethnofascists and then threatening the establishment with 1971 and civil war .

I am still waiting for you to tell us where the evidence from crooked Munir went in his allegations of corruption by Bushra Bibi. He has been in absolute power for 3 years and so far all we know is that he begged Bushra to save his job after Bajwa accused him of being incompetent.
tell us what happened to the evidence. She was accused of taking money to give jobs, so who paid the bribes, have they been charged and jailed. 🤣🤣
 
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Pakistan is clearly moving in the right direction. These people wouldn’t know they neither live nor visit pakistan, or are from backward villages of Mirpur. Talk to those who actually living in Pakistan if you want a real perspective. People like @Major and @Mamoon
This is the most prosperous period for Pakistan in a very long time and long it may continue. I think things will only get better as long as the traitor remains locked up.
 
I can guarantee you no Mufti in Pakistan would ever endorse or justify an act of zina between Bushra Bibi and Imran Khan.

This concept of illicit relationships with someone else’s wife might be tolerated in foreign societies, but in Pakistan, there is absolutely no room for such acceptance culturally, socially, or religiously.
How is the marriage between Imran Khan and Bushra Bibi an incorrect illicit relationship?

Since you are discussing an Islamic matter, please provide Islamically acceptable evidence for your charges.

Appreciate it.

Thanks
 
He is so honest that he has refused to acknowledge that he has a daughter born out of wedlock with Sita White.

He is so honest that he maintained friendship with money launderers and other shady businessmen who sponsored him and his party.

Another great example of his supreme honesty is welcoming corrupt politicians in PTI so that he could take advantage of their vote banks and become the PM on their behest.

Definitely a champion of honesty and morality.
Since you are discussing the issue from an Islamic point of view so let's discuss it from Islam.

It is a grave sin to remind someone of their sins from their past life and a person should refrain from it lest Allah punishes them with humiliation in this world and the next.

Imran Khan committed many sins in the past and it is not from Islam to remind you of them.

From an unIslamic and Secular point of view, it's nobody's business what he did or does in his personal life!

Happy to discuss the issue with you from Islamic or Secular point of view, pick your stance and make a point!

Now, let's get back to the issue.

What dishonesty has he committed with regards to Pakistan?
 
Imran Khan Argument

I have no connection with Imran Khan or PTI but happy to discuss the issue with anyone in a civilized and respecfup manner.

You have two options:

  1. Make an argument against Imran Khan from an Islamic perspective about his (past) playboy lifestyle, his affairs, illegitimate daughter l, marriage to an (Ex or current) Jewish woman. In this case, provide Islamically acceptable evidence OR be condemned on the day of judgement.
  2. Make an argument from an unIslamic point of view and in that case, none of the above matters!
You can't invent BS like "Jewish agent" or "Qadiyani" from a political perspective, there is no such thing in Islam or Islamic law.

Think twice, before ruining your book of deeds in sheer hatred for anyone for the day of judgement.

Imran Khan is neither an angel, nor a prophet or even a "Wali", he was a sportsman and was and is pretty ignorant about laws of Islam like a vast number of people from Pakistan. Imran Khan belongs to a Nation which tries to lynch women for wearing clothes with "Arabic calligraphy' on it

Let's get some perspective here.

But if you are going to argue from Islam, you better come from the Quraan and Sunnah and not invent things from your back pocket.

Thanks
 
Since you are discussing the issue from an Islamic point of view so let's discuss it from Islam.

It is a grave sin to remind someone of their sins from their past life and a person should refrain from it lest Allah punishes them with humiliation in this world and the next.

Imran Khan committed many sins in the past and it is not from Islam to remind you of them.

From an unIslamic and Secular point of view, it's nobody's business what he did or does in his personal life!

Happy to discuss the issue with you from Islamic or Secular point of view, pick your stance and make a point!

Now, let's get back to the issue.

What dishonesty has he committed with regards to Pakistan?
So you admit that Imran has committed a lot of sins in the past. Thats a good start.

Now hear me out please. If you admit that he has committed a lot of sins in the past, then please don’t advertise his honesty and morality because it’s clearly contradictory.

Furthermore, if we accept that he is a changed man now, that is fine, but a changed man would take ownership of his past mistakes. He would not deflect them.

If Imran was a changed person, he would have the guts to admit that he had a daughter born out of wedlock. Even today, Imran doesn’t have the courage to admit it because of the consequences, even though everyone knows the reality.

Turning to God when you enter old age means nothing. Everyone does that. I don’t see many 70 year olds partying but I see many of them in mosques with a cap on their heads and tasbeeh in their fingers.

When you have one foot in the grave, you naturally turn to God, but the real value lies in how you live your life in your youth, because that is when it is most difficult to control your desires and abstain from what has been forbidden for you.

Where was Imran’s love for Islam and Allah SWT when he was sleeping around with women and drinking and partying his youth and taking full advantage of his money and fame?

How convenient is it that when he retired and decided to become a politician, he suddenly had this “spiritual awakening” and became a pious Muslim?

It’s all a drama. It’s an act that was performed out of necessity because it is what sells in Pakistan. Imran could not have become a successful politician and won the support of the masses while adopting the same lifestyle that he had in his youth.

As far as not reminding him of his past, well that is what he has done all his political life - reminding people about their past, so why won’t it apply to him? That’s the problem with him and his supporters - they don’t believe that the same rules that he applies on others apply to him as well.

In terms of what dishonesty he has committed towards Pakistan, surely this must be a troll question because where do I start and where do I end?

He got close to shady businessmen like Jahangir Tareen and took advantage of their black money as sponsorship for his party.

He opened the doors to failed, corruption politicians with large vote banks so that he could take capitalize on their votes and become the PM.

He enticed violence in the masses by encouraging them to defy law and order and engage in vandalism.

He brought the country to its knees in 2014 before he used the APS attack to exit his flop Azadi March after it had ran its course.

He has caused the death of so many people as part of his protests while his own sons where hiding in the UK.

What more damage could he have caused to Pakistan?
 
Since you are discussing the issue from an Islamic point of view so let's discuss it from Islam.

It is a grave sin to remind someone of their sins from their past life and a person should refrain from it lest Allah punishes them with humiliation in this world and the next.

Imran Khan committed many sins in the past and it is not from Islam to remind you of them.

From an unIslamic and Secular point of view, it's nobody's business what he did or does in his personal life!

Happy to discuss the issue with you from Islamic or Secular point of view, pick your stance and make a point!

Now, let's get back to the issue.

What dishonesty has he committed with regards to Pakistan?


Mamoon just a few months ago:


Very sad to see. Imran is not without his faults and he has made many mistakes but he does not deserve this treatment.

He has achieved things and lived a life most people cannot dream of and if they can dream, they don’t have the courage to do so.

Imran has the heart of a lion and if this is how it ends for him then so be it because this is what God chose for him. Imran should die at peace knowing that he did whatever he could in his capacity to make a difference.

This guy is mentally unstable. He has a long history of flip flopping going to extreme lengths to say negative things about PTI/IK to suddendly claiming he voted for them in the elections to then again changing his stand point. he always has something to say to justify his stance. This is the quality of users we have on this forum.

What kind of debate are you expecting from people like Major, Maooon, embran who barely have 2 braincells they use for survival.
 
Mamoon just a few months ago:




This guy is mentally unstable. He has a long history of flip flopping going to extreme lengths to say negative things about PTI/IK to suddendly claiming he voted for them in the elections to then again changing his stand point. he always has something to say to justify his stance. This is the quality of users we have on this forum.

What kind of debate are you expecting from people like Major, Maooon, embran who barely have 2 braincells they use for survival.
He is as dishonest as the people he supports.

@LordJames
If they are corrupt, a supporter of thieves, complicit in the murder of innocent people; then I very much doubt they have any belief in God or the afterlife... Islam has no relevance to them
 
He is as dishonest as the people he supports.

@LordJames
If they are corrupt, a supporter of thieves, complicit in the murder of innocent people; then I very much doubt they have any belief in God or the afterlife... Islam has no relevance to them
Are you talking about yourself, who pays taxes to a government that funds Israel? 🤡
 
All patriotic Pakistanis are thankful to the brave lion Asim Munir, the GOAT Army Chief in Pakistan history.
I hope Asim Munir stays at helm for an extended period of time.

Feel that the biggest factor with AM is that his resiliance is amazing.
 
I hope Asim Munir stays at helm for an extended period of time.

Feel that the biggest factor with AM is that his resiliance is amazing.
He is a daring man who is not afraid to take action. No one can lay a finger on Pakistan as long as he is around. We are blessed to have him.
 
This stupid line of argument has already been put to bed... like I've said before you've already exposed yourself.
It has not, because your weak justifications and excuses have not been recognized. Don’t throw stones at others when you live in a glass house.
 
It has not, because your weak justifications and excuses have not been recognized. Don’t throw stones at others when you live in a glass house.

You dont pay tax and if you did, yours is going towards killing fellow Pakistanis but thats ok for you? Of course it is, you were happy for India to bomb Pakistani children.
 
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You dont pay tax and if you did, yours is going towards killing fellow Pakistanis but thats ok for you? Of course it is, you were happy for India to bomb Pakistani children.
Firstly, I pay taxes, but I don’t need to prove it

I don’t need to prove my patriotism to armchair PTI supporters who hide in the West and didn’t have the courage to come back to Pakistan and stand with their messiah, Imran.

Secondly, I was okay with India or anyone targeting terrorist hideouts in Pakistan at a time when Imran Khan was protecting these terrorist hideouts. However, the current government and military establishment have a different policy and are taking strict measures against eradicating terrorism in Pakistan.

This is why apart from Indian-funded BLA’s activities, Pakistan is now as safe as another country.

Thirdly, I bow only to God. Why will I bow to Jewish boys who don’t know the first thing about Pakistan and whose future generations (if they are not gay because they certainly look the part) won’t even recognize their Pakistani heritage?

They are also cowards who were hiding in the UK when their father was on the streets. Why didn’t they have the courage to give up their posh Zionist-funded lifestyle in London and join their father in his struggle?

Their cowardice resurfaced again last month when they were supposed to come to Pakistan to join a PTI protest but chickened out when the government rightfully warned them that they will be locked up alongside their traitor father if they get involved in politics.
 
Firstly, I pay taxes, but I don’t need to prove it

I don’t need to prove my patriotism to armchair PTI supporters who hide in the West and didn’t have the courage to come back to Pakistan and stand with their messiah, Imran.

Secondly, I was okay with India or anyone targeting terrorist hideouts in Pakistan at a time when Imran Khan was protecting these terrorist hideouts. However, the current government and military establishment have a different policy and are taking strict measures against eradicating terrorism in Pakistan.

This is why apart from Indian-funded BLA’s activities, Pakistan is now as safe as another country.

Thirdly, I bow only to God. Why will I bow to Jewish boys who don’t know the first thing about Pakistan and whose future generations (if they are not gay because they certainly look the part) won’t even recognize their Pakistani heritage?

They are also cowards who were hiding in the UK when their father was on the streets. Why didn’t they have the courage to give up their posh Zionist-funded lifestyle in London and join their father in his struggle?

Their cowardice resurfaced again last month when they were supposed to come to Pakistan to join a PTI protest but chickened out when the government rightfully warned them that they will be locked up alongside their traitor father if they get involved in politics.

Imran Khan and his sons are standing up for justice for ordinary Pakistanis, they could be living in luxury you'd dream of only. Yet you support killing Pakistani kids and somehow are deluded and mentally challenged to think you are more of a patriot. You're laughable .
 
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Imran Khan and his sons are standing up for justice for ordinary Pakistanis, they could be living in luxury you'd dream of only. Yet you support killing Pakistani kids and somehow are deluded and mentally challenged to think you are more of a patriot. You're laughable .
His Jewish sons have spent all their lives in London. What do they know about the sufferings of ordinary Pakistanis?

I repeat: why didn’t they join their father when he was on the streets? Why didn’t they stand shoulder to shoulder with the poor people of Pakistan? What were they afraid of?
 
It has not, because your weak justifications and excuses have not been recognized. Don’t throw stones at others when you live in a glass house.
Of course they haven't been recognised. For you to recognise them would just expose you even further.

You've had your skirt pulled down so many times, on multiple threads that I question myself each time I reply to you.
 
His Jewish sons have spent all their lives in London. What do they know about the sufferings of ordinary Pakistanis?

I repeat: why didn’t they join their father when he was on the streets? Why didn’t they stand shoulder to shoulder with the poor people of Pakistan? What were they afraid of?

They are British, its not their problem, its yours and those who live in Pakistan. Sons always stand up for their father, not sure if this applies to you but its normal in all societies. Pakistanis in Pakistan who oppose IK, only because their families are corrupt and have stolen money of the ordinary folk. You know this well.
 
His Jewish sons have spent all their lives in London. What do they know about the sufferings of ordinary Pakistanis?

I repeat: why didn’t they join their father when he was on the streets? Why didn’t they stand shoulder to shoulder with the poor people of Pakistan? What were they afraid o


Oh wow, another begairat posts from the biggest Munafiq on the forum. We definitely haven’t forgotten those lecturing posts where you swore up and down that Nawaz Sharif and Maryam were going to heroically restore civilian supremacy. What happened there? Did democracy trip and fall on the way from Qazi Isas flats in London? Did Crooked Nani and Duffer Dad forget their historic role. 🤣🤣 Did Modi stop them or has Munir rammed a CM post down their throat to make them sell their long held " principles"

And now, about his sons — oh of course, they’re just loving, concerned family members- something that your and your fellow munafiqs never had the fortune to receive.They Just concerned sons who happen to love their father. So hard to understand, right?

And the irony of people that supported the coup suddenly caring about the suffering of everyday Pakistanis? That’s rich. Tell us again, who stole the people’s vote? Who’s busy killing and abducting PKs and silencing dissent? Who’s treating the constitution like scrap paper while the Chief Justice enjoys his new gig as a full-time horse rider slash vacationer? And let’s not forget — who made inflation shoot through the roof, made electricity a luxury item, and casually wiped out 15% of the country’s potential increased economic output? Forced millions to leave to just survive as poverty rates exponentially increase at home.

But sure, keep preaching your crap
 
Mamoon just a few months ago:




This guy is mentally unstable. He has a long history of flip flopping going to extreme lengths to say negative things about PTI/IK to suddendly claiming he voted for them in the elections to then again changing his stand point. he always has something to say to justify his stance. This is the quality of users we have on this forum.

What kind of debate are you expecting from people like Major, Maooon, embran who barely have 2 braincells they use for survival.
Spent years telling us why is anti Junta and anti Mullah and here we are today, with both in power destroying PK and any semblance of any rules. The biggest Munafiq on the forum
 
He is a daring man who is not afraid to take action. No one can lay a finger on Pakistan as long as he is around. We are blessed to have him.
He is more smart than we think as well.

No one knew that they would be lobbying with trump over this time
 
Firstly, I pay taxes, but I don’t need to prove it

I don’t need to prove my patriotism to armchair PTI supporters who hide in the West and didn’t have the courage to come back to Pakistan and stand with their messiah, Imran.

Secondly, I was okay with India or anyone targeting terrorist hideouts in Pakistan at a time when Imran Khan was protecting these terrorist hideouts. However, the current government and military establishment have a different policy and are taking strict measures against eradicating terrorism in Pakistan.

This is why apart from Indian-funded BLA’s activities, Pakistan is now as safe as another country.

Thirdly, I bow only to God. Why will I bow to Jewish boys who don’t know the first thing about Pakistan and whose future generations (if they are not gay because they certainly look the part) won’t even recognize their Pakistani heritage?

They are also cowards who were hiding in the UK when their father was on the streets. Why didn’t they have the courage to give up their posh Zionist-funded lifestyle in London and join their father in his struggle?

Their cowardice resurfaced again last month when they were supposed to come to Pakistan to join a PTI protest but chickened out when the government rightfully warned them that they will be locked up alongside their traitor father if they get involved in politics.
You're writing essays exposing yourself. Why are you obsessed with Jewish boys?? 🤔
 
Are you talking about yourself, who pays taxes to a government that funds Israel? 🤡
And any Muslim that works for any organisation that earns interest gets paid their salary from that interest. What should they do, never work again?

People can be critical of their government’s actions including foreign policy actions, and still care about the country they live in and grew up in to pay taxes so that those taxes support infrastructure, hospitals, education, etc.

This is a really bad argument.
 
How are Imran Khan’s sons Jewish? Have they professed to the Jewish faith or converted? Also from an ethnic perspective, only those who have a Jewish mother can be ethnically Jewish. Jemima’s mother was not ethnically Jewish.
 
Can someone explain how the Malik Riaz case is not corruption as I don’t know the details? My understanding is that the £190m seized by the U.K. was used by the PTI government to pay what Riaz owed the Supreme Court and in return Riaz donated to Imran Khan’s charity. How is this not corruption? The money seized was from illegal ventures and should have gone to the Treasury and anything more Riaz owed should have come out of his pockets separately. If I’m looking at this from an unbiased position, this is clearly corruption. And why should the Prime Minister’s charity benefit from this when there are so many other charities. This is deeply unethical.
 
Can someone explain how the Malik Riaz case is not corruption as I don’t know the details? My understanding is that the £190m seized by the U.K. was used by the PTI government to pay what Riaz owed the Supreme Court and in return Riaz donated to Imran Khan’s charity. How is this not corruption? The money seized was from illegal ventures and should have gone to the Treasury and anything more Riaz owed should have come out of his pockets separately. If I’m looking at this from an unbiased position, this is clearly corruption. And why should the Prime Minister’s charity benefit from this when there are so many other charities. This is deeply unethical.
You need to read upon this. @Major has been humiliated on this £190mn a number of times including when the verdict came out ( go back to the thread on this, it's was only in Jan) .
The NCA agreed that MR could use this money to do what he wants and he opted to use it to pay off the SC debt. That was an agreement between the NCA and MR. You can watch vlogs by Ahmed Noorani and on this to get your answer. What is more interesting what emerged from the case ie NS sold a property to MR at double its price just before the Panama scandal broke. Why would anyone pay double? Can you explain this
 
He is more smart than we think as well.

No one knew that they would be lobbying with trump over this time
Yes. If you sell a £10 note for a fiver, it will have a many takers. Munir has promised many things to Trump including recognising Israel, selling rare earth minerals( that we may or may not have) and now the oil which again we may or may not have. Munir has sold PK to stay in power.
 
Can someone explain how the Malik Riaz case is not corruption as I don’t know the details? My understanding is that the £190m seized by the U.K. was used by the PTI government to pay what Riaz owed the Supreme Court and in return Riaz donated to Imran Khan’s charity. How is this not corruption? The money seized was from illegal ventures and should have gone to the Treasury and anything more Riaz owed should have come out of his pockets separately. If I’m looking at this from an unbiased position, this is clearly corruption. And why should the Prime Minister’s charity benefit from this when there are so many other charities. This is deeply unethical.
This is a good argument
 
Imran’s sons have applied for visas, awaiting interior ministry’s approval: Aleema Khanum

PTI founder Imran Khan’s sister Aleema Khanum on Friday said that his sons had applied for their Pakistani visas and were awaiting approval from the interior ministry ahead of their visit to the country.

In a post on X, she said: “A few days ago, Suleiman [Khan] and Kasim [Khan] applied for their visas with the Pakistan High Commission in London. The ambassador has intimated that he is awaiting approval from the Ministry of Interior in Islamabad.”

Imran’s sons — Sulaiman, 28, and Kasim, 26 — called attention to their father’s incarceration for the first time publicly in May. Last month, Aleema said they would go to the United States before coming to Pakistan as part of a movement calling for the ex-premier’s release. The siblings visited the US and engaged US lawmakers on the issue of their father’s incarceration.

Imran, imprisoned since August 2023, is serving a sentence at the Adiala Jail in a £190 million corruption case and also faces pending trials under the Anti-Terrorism Act related to the protests of May 9, 2023.

Aleema had previously said that the sons would “definitely” come to Pakistan as they had a National Identity Card for Overseas Pakistanis and they were “citizens of Pakistan”.

“If anything were to happen to Imran’s sons, it would become an international matter,” she had told reporters.

Meanwhile, Defence Minister Khawaja Asif had remarked, “Why would the government stop Imran’s sons from coming to Pakistan?”

Earlier this week, the PTI swiftly rubbished media reports claiming that the incarcerated leader told reporters at Adiala Jail that his sons would not be coming to Pakistan and taking part in or leading any protest.

Although the government has not officially commented on the matter of Imran’s sons, Minister of State for Interior Tallal Chaudhry previously questioned what, if any, role they would be able to play, adding that they were welcome to visit Pakistan and there would be no obstacle for them. He continued that visas would be issued to them “in less than 24 hours”, provided they stayed within the law.

Minister of State for Law and Justice Barrister Aqeel Malik had told Dawn.com that Article 16 of the Constitution, which grants the right to gather, was applicable to citizens and foreigners are not allowed to assemble in Pakistan.

Malik also said that the two brothers could not legally participate in local political activity as they were British nationals, and that if they “violate the visa conditions, the visa can be cancelled”.

There were conflicting statements from PML-N leaders as well on whether the duo would be allowed entry into Pakistan, with Senator Irfan Siddiqui saying they should be allowed to come and “carry out their activities”, but within the limitations of the law.

Source: Dawn News
 
You need to read upon this. @Major has been humiliated on this £190mn a number of times including when the verdict came out ( go back to the thread on this, it's was only in Jan) .
The NCA agreed that MR could use this money to do what he wants and he opted to use it to pay off the SC debt. That was an agreement between the NCA and MR. You can watch vlogs by Ahmed Noorani and on this to get your answer. What is more interesting what emerged from the case ie NS sold a property to MR at double its price just before the Panama scandal broke. Why would anyone pay double? Can you explain this
Thanks, I will look into this.
 
But surely you recognise that donating to the Prime Ministers charity is dodgy. A dumb move by Imran Khan.
 
Imran’s sons have applied for visas, awaiting interior ministry’s approval: Aleema Khanum

PTI founder Imran Khan’s sister Aleema Khanum on Friday said that his sons had applied for their Pakistani visas and were awaiting approval from the interior ministry ahead of their visit to the country.

In a post on X, she said: “A few days ago, Suleiman [Khan] and Kasim [Khan] applied for their visas with the Pakistan High Commission in London. The ambassador has intimated that he is awaiting approval from the Ministry of Interior in Islamabad.”

Imran’s sons — Sulaiman, 28, and Kasim, 26 — called attention to their father’s incarceration for the first time publicly in May. Last month, Aleema said they would go to the United States before coming to Pakistan as part of a movement calling for the ex-premier’s release. The siblings visited the US and engaged US lawmakers on the issue of their father’s incarceration.

Imran, imprisoned since August 2023, is serving a sentence at the Adiala Jail in a £190 million corruption case and also faces pending trials under the Anti-Terrorism Act related to the protests of May 9, 2023.

Aleema had previously said that the sons would “definitely” come to Pakistan as they had a National Identity Card for Overseas Pakistanis and they were “citizens of Pakistan”.

“If anything were to happen to Imran’s sons, it would become an international matter,” she had told reporters.

Meanwhile, Defence Minister Khawaja Asif had remarked, “Why would the government stop Imran’s sons from coming to Pakistan?”

Earlier this week, the PTI swiftly rubbished media reports claiming that the incarcerated leader told reporters at Adiala Jail that his sons would not be coming to Pakistan and taking part in or leading any protest.

Although the government has not officially commented on the matter of Imran’s sons, Minister of State for Interior Tallal Chaudhry previously questioned what, if any, role they would be able to play, adding that they were welcome to visit Pakistan and there would be no obstacle for them. He continued that visas would be issued to them “in less than 24 hours”, provided they stayed within the law.

Minister of State for Law and Justice Barrister Aqeel Malik had told Dawn.com that Article 16 of the Constitution, which grants the right to gather, was applicable to citizens and foreigners are not allowed to assemble in Pakistan.

Malik also said that the two brothers could not legally participate in local political activity as they were British nationals, and that if they “violate the visa conditions, the visa can be cancelled”.

There were conflicting statements from PML-N leaders as well on whether the duo would be allowed entry into Pakistan, with Senator Irfan Siddiqui saying they should be allowed to come and “carry out their activities”, but within the limitations of the law.

Source: Dawn News
They are more than welcome in our country, provided they respect our laws and refrain from any involvement in political activities or attempts to incite unrest like that of May 9.
 
They are British, its not their problem, its yours and those who live in Pakistan.
I agree, but right before this post, you wrote that they are standing up for the people of Pakistan.

You sound terribly confused. These British Jewish boys didn’t have the courage to join their maniac father on the streets, but they are standing up for the people of Pakistan?
 
I agree, but right before this post, you wrote that they are standing up for the people of Pakistan.

You sound terribly confused. These British Jewish boys didn’t have the courage to join their maniac father on the streets, but they are standing up for the people of Pakistan?
everyone who fled the country for British pounds and living in UK are standing up for Pakistan and those living in Pakistan are enemies of Pakistan and its people, Kya logic Hai yaar lol
 
everyone who fled the country for British pounds and living in UK are standing up for Pakistan and those living in Pakistan are enemies of Pakistan and its people, Kya logic Hai yaar lol

What would you say about The Nooras And Mr 10% stashing their cash in London and Switzerland whilst they ment to be ruling the People of Pakistan. Lol
 
everyone who fled the country for British pounds and living in UK are standing up for Pakistan and those living in Pakistan are enemies of Pakistan and its people, Kya logic Hai yaar lol
M. Jinnah saved them from the Queen before they fled the country to sing God Save The Queen 🤣🤣🤣

And they are also the most pious, honest and moral people destined for the 7th heavens according to their self-assessment.
 
everyone who fled the country for British pounds and living in UK are standing up for Pakistan and those living in Pakistan are enemies of Pakistan and its people, Kya logic Hai yaar lol
To add to this, most of my family members are the same. In fact, my dad is the only sibling who didn’t move to the UK because he was a civil servant in Pakistan.

All my first cousins are British Pakistanis and they are replicas of the clowns on this forum. It is funny how all these folks are identical to each other.
 
everyone who fled the country for British pounds and living in UK are standing up for Pakistan and those living in Pakistan are enemies of Pakistan and its people, Kya logic Hai yaar lol
Those living in PK are our brothers and sisters. Its their pain we feel when they are killed in broad daylight, its their pain we feel when they have no justice system or cant pay the electricity bills and have to commit suicide and cant feed their kids.
So shameless why are NSs kids in the UK? What connection do they have to the UK? Why are they still given full protocol on official tours? SS kid claimed he didnt have to answer to PK law ( money laundering) but today he is back in PK and getting big contracts. Where is Qazi Easy Paisa, General Kiyani? General Sharif?
 
I can imagine some of these dressed like this singing "god save the queen" and then come on online forums and say they stand up for Pakistani people :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

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These fake lo*ers will happily give up their Pakistani nationality if they have to choose between British and Pakistani citizenship, so much for being patriotic Pakistanis. What’s funny is that they want voting rights.

If you are not even living in a country and are therefore not impacted by the governance, why on earth do you deserve to be part of the voting population?
 
All patriotic Pakistanis are thankful to the brave lion Asim Munir, the GOAT Army Chief in Pakistan history.
Army Chief’s work should only be related to within the army’s domain. The guy is paid by taxpayers to look after the defence ONLY.

Contrary to this - the dude has hijacked the justice system, stole the 2024 election, made a mockery of parliament, killed and destroyed innocent peoples lives, demolished people’s businesses who were in any form related to PTI. The destruction of Pakistan is not IK - it’s the Army Chiefs who have had a free run for 78 years. The country is drowning in debt, people are stretched to the limit. Go to any bazaar or mohallah to see their devastation.

Pakistan has finally reached its turning point. Its either the generals or awaam going forward. The status quo is now destined to die the moment Hafiz Munir leaves or if thrown out by awaam. Hard power has to make way for softer power in years ahead.
 
Army Chief’s work should only be related to within the army’s domain. The guy is paid by taxpayers to look after the defence ONLY.

Contrary to this - the dude has hijacked the justice system, stole the 2024 election, made a mockery of parliament, killed and destroyed innocent peoples lives, demolished people’s businesses who were in any form related to PTI. The destruction of Pakistan is not IK - it’s the Army Chiefs who have had a free run for 78 years. The country is drowning in debt, people are stretched to the limit. Go to any bazaar or mohallah to see their devastation.

Pakistan has finally reached its turning point. Its either the generals or awaam going forward. The status quo is now destined to die the moment Hafiz Munir leaves or if thrown out by awaam. Hard power has to make way for softer power in years ahead.
He used to argue the same but as munafiq he realised that he would end up in Mach jail and kacked himself. Go back to his posts under IK. He argued NS was anti establishment🤣🤣🤣🥰🥰
 
To add to this, most of my family members are the same. In fact, my dad is the only sibling who didn’t move to the UK because he was a civil servant in Pakistan.

All my first cousins are British Pakistanis and they are replicas of the clowns on this forum. It is funny how all these folks are identical to each other.
These clowns only get patriot on 14th August or when pakistan beats india in a cricket which is very rare they all be out in their hired cars with Pakistan and imran khan flags waving doing and doung circles in their cars with Indian music pumping in their cars in the Pakistani neighbourhoods of Manchester and Bradford while high on alcohol and drugs. Seen it with my own eyes. 14 August is coming i will make videos and show you these clowns.
 
Those living in PK are our brothers and sisters. Its their pain we feel when they are killed in broad daylight, its their pain we feel when they have no justice system or cant pay the electricity bills and have to commit suicide and cant feed their kids.
So shameless why are NSs kids in the UK? What connection do they have to the UK? Why are they still given full protocol on official tours? SS kid claimed he didnt have to answer to PK law ( money laundering) but today he is back in PK and getting big contracts. Where is Qazi Easy Paisa, General Kiyani? General Sharif?
I was in Pakistan just three weeks ago and also visited last year. Everything’s fine there. In fact, people in Pakistan are living better lives than you are here in the UK. So no need to worry about them.
 
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Army Chief’s work should only be related to within the army’s domain. The guy is paid by taxpayers to look after the defence ONLY.

Contrary to this - the dude has hijacked the justice system, stole the 2024 election, made a mockery of parliament, killed and destroyed innocent peoples lives, demolished people’s businesses who were in any form related to PTI. The destruction of Pakistan is not IK - it’s the Army Chiefs who have had a free run for 78 years. The country is drowning in debt, people are stretched to the limit. Go to any bazaar or mohallah to see their devastation.

Pakistan has finally reached its turning point. Its either the generals or awaam going forward. The status quo is now destined to die the moment Hafiz Munir leaves or if thrown out by awaam. Hard power has to make way for softer power in years ahead.
We are indebted to Munir for locking up the traitor Imran and for spanking India. He has restored the dignity of Pakistan.
 
I was in Pakistan just three weeks ago and also visited last year. Everything’s fine there. In fact, people in Pakistan are living better lives than you are here in the UK. So no need to worry about them.

Its great to hear from you an unbiased source that things are great. Well done for that informing us🤣🤣

BTW
What happened to your pleading that those that dont live in PK shouldn't comment on PK. 🤣🥰🤣🤣
 
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We are indebted to Munir for locking up the traitor Imran and for spanking India. He has restored the dignity of Pakistan.
Traitor? What are these oh so treasonous acts that he is guilty of that your beloev military commanders are not? Dignity of Pakistan? What dignity? We have a population of more than 240million and we're begging for money every other week from foreign countries and agencies and we've been doing it during Imran's tenure, before and after.

I'm no PTI fan, but I sure don't want these army thugs running the show.

A few years ago when a rishta came and they were part of the armed forces people would try their hardest to get their daughters married there. Now, people are hurling such derogatory abuse at the army. They did this not Imran or outsiders.
 
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I was in Pakistan just three weeks ago and also visited last year. Everything’s fine there. In fact, people in Pakistan are living better lives than you are here in the UK. So no need to worry about them.
People are living better lives in Pakistan? Maybe the top 5% but almost half the country is now living under the poverty line. According to google the percentage of people living under the poverty line has gone up.


You can lie all your want - but no one is gullible enough to believe the lies.
 
We are indebted to Munir for locking up the traitor Imran and for spanking India. He has restored the dignity of Pakistan.
On india, do you think they will do something like pehalgam or in worst case, attack Pakistan's military leadership like Gen Munir or Air Chief (looking at how they benchmark israel).
 
People are living better lives in Pakistan? Maybe the top 5% but almost half the country is now living under the poverty line. According to google the percentage of people living under the poverty line has gone up.


You can lie all your want - but no one is gullible enough to believe the lies.
Poverty and inflation only increased in IK's term versus previous government.

This current regime is the best arrangement pakistan can have.
 
Poverty and inflation only increased in IK's term versus previous government.

This current regime is the best arrangement pakistan can have.
That's false, I even provided an independent news article which says that it's increased even after PTI were removed from power.

This current regime is the best? Well it might be, but the evidence is clear, Pakistan's population will continue to get poorer.
 
People are living better lives in Pakistan? Maybe the top 5% but almost half the country is now living under the poverty line. According to google the percentage of people living under the poverty line has gone up.


You can lie all your want - but no one is gullible enough to believe the lies.
you can only come with something like this when you have no connection with Pakistan and its people, rewind back to 2013 and follow the timeline of poverty and you can clearly see what polices effected the Pakistan its people and why has poverty risen
 
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you can only come with something like this when you have no connection with Pakistan and its people, rewind back to 2013 and follow the timeline of poverty and you can clearly see what polices effected the Pakistan its people and why has poverty risen
I provided you a link to an independent article where they highlight the poverty rates increased after the PTI were removed from power. It is now down to you to provide your evidence or counter the argument. Try to do it without insults.
 
The comments in the Piers Morgan interview video are very heavily in favour of IK. There are some anti IK comments scattered but I'd say it's 90% pro IK.
 
That's false, I even provided an independent news article which says that it's increased even after PTI were removed from power.

This current regime is the best? Well it might be, but the evidence is clear, Pakistan's population will continue to get poorer.
PTI term vs 2013-17

Poverty and inflation, both increased
 
PTI term vs 2013-17

Poverty and inflation, both increased

Keep aside poverty and inflation for a moment, just answer this...

How long was PTI/IK in Government?
What were the years and how did Covid impact the world and how did Pakistan do during Covid?

Vs
How many years have PPP/PMLN been in power for and what were their achievements other than increased corruption, land grabbing and looting?
 
These clowns only get patriot on 14th August or when pakistan beats india in a cricket which is very rare they all be out in their hired cars with Pakistan and imran khan flags waving doing and doung circles in their cars with Indian music pumping in their cars in the Pakistani neighbourhoods of Manchester and Bradford while high on alcohol and drugs. Seen it with my own eyes. 14 August is coming i will make videos and show you these clowns.
You live in the UK? 😭

Stop lecturing the rest of us hero.
 
The rhetoric he gave was as if US is an enemy. THis is what PTI portrayed to Pakistan and were desperate not to hand over the power to the other party when people of Pakistan lost confidence in Imran and was thrown out of the Parliament like a tissue paper.

What has US got to do with Imrans release? By beggign US, wouldnt that be interfering.

Imran committed a crime, should pay for it.

Regarding Bilawal in this thread, N league has made its fair share of mistakes, and will be held accountable at the day of judgement for them
"People of Pakistan lost confidence in Imran" lol
 
You live in the UK? 😭

Stop lecturing the rest of us hero.
Do you think he will back down? These people are the most dheet and ignorant people you will ever meet. Think of the misogynists in Pakistan , backward madarassa folks and those that wear honour killing as a badge of honour. They are set in their ways and any kind of debate it futile with them
 
Do you think he will back down? These people are the most dheet and ignorant people you will ever meet. Think of the misogynists in Pakistan , backward madarassa folks and those that wear honour killing as a badge of honour. They are set in their ways and any kind of debate it futile with them
Yeah a waste of time, literally supporting crooks and thieves.

I thought living in the UK maybe he has some level of basic education or understanding to see the benefits of living in a country where the leaders are held accountable to the public.
 
The way you were going on I thought you were living in Maryam Nawaz’ lap?
Or is that a wet dream of yours?

She’s 55 mate, leave it to Mr Field Marshal 😂
So that’s what really got under your skin someone acknowledging something positive about the pakistan .

You don’t have to agree with it, but getting overly emotional or throwing a tantrum over someone else’s opinion doesn’t help your case.

Take a breath. Not everything needs to be met with tears rolling out of your eyes.

It’s okay to disagree without reacting like an over-sensitive tranny.
 
Yeah a waste of time, literally supporting crooks and thieves.

I thought living in the UK maybe he has some level of basic education or understanding to see the benefits of living in a country where the leaders are held accountable to the public.
Those munafiq beghairat are born illiterate and no amount of light can ever penetrate their immorality or stupidity.
 
So that’s what really got under your skin someone acknowledging something positive about the pakistan .

You don’t have to agree with it, but getting overly emotional or throwing a tantrum over someone else’s opinion doesn’t help your case.

Take a breath. Not everything needs to be met with tears rolling out of your eyes.

It’s okay to disagree without reacting like an over-sensitive tranny.
The most positive thing about PK is that the people have resilience despite the total destruction of every institution and the open theft from them at the point of a gun.

BTW
You said that we lied on the price of Sugar and it was PTI propaganda, just tell what the price was in your recent visit.
 
The most positive thing about PK is that the people have resilience despite the total destruction of every institution and the open theft from them at the point of a gun.

BTW
You said that we lied on the price of Sugar and it was PTI propaganda, just tell what the price was in your recent visit.

just tell us what the price was during your recent visit*
 
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